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- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 9:47am #31868
Lotto StudParticipantMarquis Teague = Jay Williams ish just a tad bit smaller IMO has the build to bulk up to a 195 like Williams.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 10:26am #572533

Chilbert arenasParticipantIs it too easy to say Jeff Teague..?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 10:26am #572380

Chilbert arenasParticipantIs it too easy to say Jeff Teague..?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 10:29am #572539

MagikKnickParticipantthats what i was thinking…he plays just like his brother…maybe a bit quicker
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 10:29am #572386

MagikKnickParticipantthats what i was thinking…he plays just like his brother…maybe a bit quicker
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 10:30am #572541

ALoritts13ParticipantI’d Like to say he’s better than his big bro he’s a tad bit faster he has a higher vertical a better shooter on a good day. although jeff has a more defensive play and a higher basketball IQ.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 10:30am #572388

ALoritts13ParticipantI’d Like to say he’s better than his big bro he’s a tad bit faster he has a higher vertical a better shooter on a good day. although jeff has a more defensive play and a higher basketball IQ.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 10:38am #572543

JNixonParticipantHe’s basically a bigger Jeff Teague, in all honesty.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 10:38am #572390

JNixonParticipantHe’s basically a bigger Jeff Teague, in all honesty.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 11:30am #572416

hiphopismylifeParticipantI live in Indy; I’ve been watching this kid play the last 2 years and I cant come up with a defenitive one. I see a mix of a couple guys, but i’d say he most closely resembles Rodney Stuckey. He has a similar, straight-line scorer’s game at the point.
I’m not very high on Teague at all. He is absolutely not as good as Jeff was. Hes ranked higher but Jeff only went a little under the radar because he didn’t explode until the summer before his senior year. Williams is a good comparison physically but his game is not on that level.
His ranking has baffled me but i’m guessing it’s all about potential, as well as the fact that he plays much better in the AAU season, and obviously has good genes. Although hes projected high right now, it would surprise me if his stock remains in the top 10 because his game is still very raw.
Most of what he does that makes him special points to him being a better 2 guard. He does not have great command of his team and doesn’t have very fluid handles. He primarily beats people with simple blow by’s using his strength and quickness. He will need to learn to be alot more dynamic with the ball if he is to succeed at Kentucky. Hes nothing special as a passer and was often completely shut down when teams went to zones on him. He really racked up the turnovers at times and not in the good, aggressive, Steve Nash way. He would often look lost trying to be a distributor (7 turnovers in the first half one game) and was outplayed regularly by the other top talent in the city. I dont think he has the natural leadership qualities to be a starting NBA point guard. Even as the All American leader of his team, he was often the one being calmed down by others; constantly getting in chippy arguments with opponents and taking away from his team; his attitude at times was on a level you just dont see from top tier point guards in the league today.
He is at his best as a one on one scorer. He is not yet a great shooter but he should only keep improving. He has solid form and great lift. He can pretty much get his pull up whenever he wants, and obviously is a great athlete. When he has his jumper going, it becomes a case of picking your poison, and he can at times go on big runs single-handedly. I’ll be watching him very closely next year because of Calipari’s history at that position. Theres no better coach to help him put it all together.
His stock could remain pretty high because people are only expecting him to fall back and run the show this coming year, but I expect him to need a considerable adjustment period in that big of a limelight. He did show great improvement from his junior to senior seasons and playing for Calipari he will only continue to do so.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 11:30am #572569

hiphopismylifeParticipantI live in Indy; I’ve been watching this kid play the last 2 years and I cant come up with a defenitive one. I see a mix of a couple guys, but i’d say he most closely resembles Rodney Stuckey. He has a similar, straight-line scorer’s game at the point.
I’m not very high on Teague at all. He is absolutely not as good as Jeff was. Hes ranked higher but Jeff only went a little under the radar because he didn’t explode until the summer before his senior year. Williams is a good comparison physically but his game is not on that level.
His ranking has baffled me but i’m guessing it’s all about potential, as well as the fact that he plays much better in the AAU season, and obviously has good genes. Although hes projected high right now, it would surprise me if his stock remains in the top 10 because his game is still very raw.
Most of what he does that makes him special points to him being a better 2 guard. He does not have great command of his team and doesn’t have very fluid handles. He primarily beats people with simple blow by’s using his strength and quickness. He will need to learn to be alot more dynamic with the ball if he is to succeed at Kentucky. Hes nothing special as a passer and was often completely shut down when teams went to zones on him. He really racked up the turnovers at times and not in the good, aggressive, Steve Nash way. He would often look lost trying to be a distributor (7 turnovers in the first half one game) and was outplayed regularly by the other top talent in the city. I dont think he has the natural leadership qualities to be a starting NBA point guard. Even as the All American leader of his team, he was often the one being calmed down by others; constantly getting in chippy arguments with opponents and taking away from his team; his attitude at times was on a level you just dont see from top tier point guards in the league today.
He is at his best as a one on one scorer. He is not yet a great shooter but he should only keep improving. He has solid form and great lift. He can pretty much get his pull up whenever he wants, and obviously is a great athlete. When he has his jumper going, it becomes a case of picking your poison, and he can at times go on big runs single-handedly. I’ll be watching him very closely next year because of Calipari’s history at that position. Theres no better coach to help him put it all together.
His stock could remain pretty high because people are only expecting him to fall back and run the show this coming year, but I expect him to need a considerable adjustment period in that big of a limelight. He did show great improvement from his junior to senior seasons and playing for Calipari he will only continue to do so.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 11:30am #572418

NO EZ BUCKETSParticipantit’d be cool if he was drafted to the hawks, interesting to see who starts, but that proly won’t happen anyway
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 11:30am #572571

NO EZ BUCKETSParticipantit’d be cool if he was drafted to the hawks, interesting to see who starts, but that proly won’t happen anyway
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:04pm #572458

FastAndFuriousParticipantMan! i thought I was the only one who thought Jeff was better than Marquis even when they were in highschool.
Marquis is bigger yes, but after that I don’t see what he does better than Jeff.
I think Jeff is the better scorer, ball handler, quicker and more explosive(Watch his youtube highlights if you don’t think so)
I’m not going to say much, I’m just going to compare his Freshman year to Jeff’s.
0- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:11pm #572462

WizardofOzParticipant^^ Yeah, Jeff is more explosive than Marquis. If you watch Jeff’s highlights and Marquis’, you’ll see that Jeff gets up much higher on his dunks.
I haven’t really seen Marquis play much, so I can’t give my opinion, but I’ve always wondered what makes Marquis so much better than Jeff.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:11pm #572616

WizardofOzParticipant^^ Yeah, Jeff is more explosive than Marquis. If you watch Jeff’s highlights and Marquis’, you’ll see that Jeff gets up much higher on his dunks.
I haven’t really seen Marquis play much, so I can’t give my opinion, but I’ve always wondered what makes Marquis so much better than Jeff.
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- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:04pm #572612

FastAndFuriousParticipantMan! i thought I was the only one who thought Jeff was better than Marquis even when they were in highschool.
Marquis is bigger yes, but after that I don’t see what he does better than Jeff.
I think Jeff is the better scorer, ball handler, quicker and more explosive(Watch his youtube highlights if you don’t think so)
I’m not going to say much, I’m just going to compare his Freshman year to Jeff’s.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:23pm #572473
Lotto StudParticipantIt’s not fair at all to Marquis that you all are comparing him to his brother…..He is only drawing comparisons, because they are brothers & look alike which is sad. If they were not related there would be no comparison amongst the two from anyone on this forum. I stand behind the Jay Williams comparison.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:23pm #572628
Lotto StudParticipantIt’s not fair at all to Marquis that you all are comparing him to his brother…..He is only drawing comparisons, because they are brothers & look alike which is sad. If they were not related there would be no comparison amongst the two from anyone on this forum. I stand behind the Jay Williams comparison.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:33pm #572481

MagikKnickParticipantNo…they play exactly alike…
And, i mean…it makes sense..i’d assume they grew up together, and learned from one another.
The Jay Williams comparison is unfair, thats high expectations from a guy yet to play a college game. Many believed Jay W. was one his way to a legendary career. He averaged 14.5ppg, 6.5apg, 4rpg, and 2spg his FIRST year at Duke. Maybe the pointss, but I dont see Teague putting up any of those numbers in year one.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:33pm #572636

MagikKnickParticipantNo…they play exactly alike…
And, i mean…it makes sense..i’d assume they grew up together, and learned from one another.
The Jay Williams comparison is unfair, thats high expectations from a guy yet to play a college game. Many believed Jay W. was one his way to a legendary career. He averaged 14.5ppg, 6.5apg, 4rpg, and 2spg his FIRST year at Duke. Maybe the pointss, but I dont see Teague putting up any of those numbers in year one.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:36pm #572485

hiphopismylifeParticipantYeah Jeff is clearly quicker and more explosive IMO. Hes a better talent across the board. I think Marquis’ higher ranking is why people assume hes better. We forget Jeff was in the ’07 class, one of the best of all time. He was ranked behind guys like Derrick Rose, Nick Calathes, Johnny Flynn, and OJ Mayo depending on what position the publication listed him at.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:36pm #572640

hiphopismylifeParticipantYeah Jeff is clearly quicker and more explosive IMO. Hes a better talent across the board. I think Marquis’ higher ranking is why people assume hes better. We forget Jeff was in the ’07 class, one of the best of all time. He was ranked behind guys like Derrick Rose, Nick Calathes, Johnny Flynn, and OJ Mayo depending on what position the publication listed him at.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:49pm #572503
Lotto StudParticipant"The Jay Williams comparison is unfair, thats high expectations from a guy yet to play a college game. Many believed Jay W. was one his way to a legendary career. He averaged 14.5ppg, 6.5apg, 4rpg, and 2spg his FIRST year at Duke. Maybe the pointss, but I dont see Teague putting up any of those numbers in year one. "
Since when does a player stats have anything to do with a comparison? Last time I checked I thought we took playing styles, measurements, character etc. into account for comparisons……..If you say he can’t be a Jay Will you might as well scratch comparisons period. Of course Teague is not going to put the #s up Williams did, I expect Teague not to have outrageous scoring numbers due to his supporting cast, should become a more complete guard.
If Jeff Teague did not exist who would Marquis comparison be?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 1:49pm #572659
Lotto StudParticipant"The Jay Williams comparison is unfair, thats high expectations from a guy yet to play a college game. Many believed Jay W. was one his way to a legendary career. He averaged 14.5ppg, 6.5apg, 4rpg, and 2spg his FIRST year at Duke. Maybe the pointss, but I dont see Teague putting up any of those numbers in year one. "
Since when does a player stats have anything to do with a comparison? Last time I checked I thought we took playing styles, measurements, character etc. into account for comparisons……..If you say he can’t be a Jay Will you might as well scratch comparisons period. Of course Teague is not going to put the #s up Williams did, I expect Teague not to have outrageous scoring numbers due to his supporting cast, should become a more complete guard.
If Jeff Teague did not exist who would Marquis comparison be?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:04pm #572673

MagikKnickParticipant"Last time I checked I thought we took playing styles, measurements, character etc. into account for comparisons"
Exactly. So whats wrong with the Jeff Teague comparison?
As far as another comparison, i’d probably say a bigger Brandon Jennings. I see the Jay Williams, but I think its a couple notch’s to high.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:04pm #572518

MagikKnickParticipant"Last time I checked I thought we took playing styles, measurements, character etc. into account for comparisons"
Exactly. So whats wrong with the Jeff Teague comparison?
As far as another comparison, i’d probably say a bigger Brandon Jennings. I see the Jay Williams, but I think its a couple notch’s to high.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:12pm #572681
Lotto StudParticipant"I see the Jay Williams, but I think its a couple notch’s to high."
Last time I checked Jerryd Bayless was compared to Jay Williams & I would like to hear about the overall consensus opinion on that if you can tell me.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:12pm #572526
Lotto StudParticipant"I see the Jay Williams, but I think its a couple notch’s to high."
Last time I checked Jerryd Bayless was compared to Jay Williams & I would like to hear about the overall consensus opinion on that if you can tell me.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:18pm #572685

MagikKnickParticipantI disagree with that too. Maybe because Jay never really played in the NBA, but I think people forgot how great he was suppose to be.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:18pm #572530

MagikKnickParticipantI disagree with that too. Maybe because Jay never really played in the NBA, but I think people forgot how great he was suppose to be.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:29pm #572693
Lotto StudParticipant"I disagree with that too. Maybe because Jay never really played in the NBA, but I think people forgot how great he was suppose to be."
The same can be said about Wagner not to get off topic but he could have been great I drew a Willie Warren to the likes of Juanny…..Is that not fair either because we don’t know how he could have panned out?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:29pm #572538
Lotto StudParticipant"I disagree with that too. Maybe because Jay never really played in the NBA, but I think people forgot how great he was suppose to be."
The same can be said about Wagner not to get off topic but he could have been great I drew a Willie Warren to the likes of Juanny…..Is that not fair either because we don’t know how he could have panned out?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:29pm #572697

hiphopismylifeParticipantI dont see Brandon Jennings at all. They’re nothing alike.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:29pm #572542

hiphopismylifeParticipantI dont see Brandon Jennings at all. They’re nothing alike.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:32pm #572699
Knicksboy3ParticipantDeJuan Wagner would have never equalled his upside. Dude shot like 38 percent one season if I’m correct. People compared him to Iverson, which was incorrect. Jay Williams was gonna be good. I remember him giving Jason Kidd the PROBLEMS and lit him up for a Triple double.
Marquis Teague is more Bayless then Jay Williams, I agree with more people who agree to that. Comparing him to Jeff is a little tough because he isn’t a passer at all, I think Marquis has some PG ability
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:32pm #572544
Knicksboy3ParticipantDeJuan Wagner would have never equalled his upside. Dude shot like 38 percent one season if I’m correct. People compared him to Iverson, which was incorrect. Jay Williams was gonna be good. I remember him giving Jason Kidd the PROBLEMS and lit him up for a Triple double.
Marquis Teague is more Bayless then Jay Williams, I agree with more people who agree to that. Comparing him to Jeff is a little tough because he isn’t a passer at all, I think Marquis has some PG ability
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:36pm #572707

MagikKnickParticipantlol, did you just call him Juanny?
But yeah, i’d say thats a stretch too, once again…their definitely comparable, but thats like ‘Best Case’ comparison, assuming Wagner did pan out.
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And yeah, I admit Teague-Jennings isnt the best comparison, but I wouldnt say ‘They’re nothing alike". They have similar features in their game.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:36pm #572552

MagikKnickParticipantlol, did you just call him Juanny?
But yeah, i’d say thats a stretch too, once again…their definitely comparable, but thats like ‘Best Case’ comparison, assuming Wagner did pan out.
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And yeah, I admit Teague-Jennings isnt the best comparison, but I wouldnt say ‘They’re nothing alike". They have similar features in their game.
0- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 5:59pm #572820

hiphopismylifeParticipantMagikKnick please tell me where you see a Teague/Jennings similarity. And not just some generic "they’re guards who can score" type description.
They attack in completely different manners to me and, frankly Jennings was just way better than Teague in high school.
What do you see?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 5:59pm #572662

hiphopismylifeParticipantMagikKnick please tell me where you see a Teague/Jennings similarity. And not just some generic "they’re guards who can score" type description.
They attack in completely different manners to me and, frankly Jennings was just way better than Teague in high school.
What do you see?
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- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:42pm #572714
cbelfordParticipanthe plays like rod strickland
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:42pm #572558
cbelfordParticipanthe plays like rod strickland
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:44pm #572716
Knicksboy3Participanthe plays like rod strickland
– Please explain
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:44pm #572560
Knicksboy3Participanthe plays like rod strickland
– Please explain
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:52pm #572718
Lotto StudParticipant"lol, did you just call him Juanny?"
Ummmm yes! I see no problem because that is his actual nickname in Camden, NJ not DWag.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:52pm #572562
Lotto StudParticipant"lol, did you just call him Juanny?"
Ummmm yes! I see no problem because that is his actual nickname in Camden, NJ not DWag.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:57pm #572720
Lotto StudParticipant"Marquis Teague is more Bayless then Jay Williams, I agree with more people who agree to that."
Teague does not scream Bayless at all. Although Bayless is a scorer as well he heavily relies on his J which Teague does not. Marquis is that break you down off the dribble type of PG which Bayless is not nor does.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 2:57pm #572564
Lotto StudParticipant"Marquis Teague is more Bayless then Jay Williams, I agree with more people who agree to that."
Teague does not scream Bayless at all. Although Bayless is a scorer as well he heavily relies on his J which Teague does not. Marquis is that break you down off the dribble type of PG which Bayless is not nor does.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 6:37pm #572674

kobyzParticipantsome Russell Westbrook in him
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2011 - 6:37pm #572832

kobyzParticipantsome Russell Westbrook in him
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2011 - 5:46am #572947
Lotto StudParticipantAnymore?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2011 - 5:46am #572788
Lotto StudParticipantAnymore?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/21/2011 - 7:22pm #575931

kobyzParticipantStephon Marbury
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/21/2011 - 7:22pm #575738

kobyzParticipantStephon Marbury
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/21/2011 - 7:24pm #575933

JNixonParticipantMarbury is a nice comparison.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/21/2011 - 7:24pm #575740

JNixonParticipantMarbury is a nice comparison.
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