[Mr. ChicagoParticipant]

 I really like the ideas thrown out there by Cuban (I know they have been mentioned before, but he seems like he is actually trying to regulate some change).

I think the NBA should take a stance similiar to MLB in developing the D-League, and I also like the options thrown out by Cuban for the NBA to help athletes who decide on the D-League over the NCAA to receive academic/public speaking benefits, such as free tuition. I think that will really help the maturation factor, expecially with money management, etc.

Not sure how this would fly with the NCAA, but i like new ideas being thrown out in this arena as I am not a huge fan of the treatment of atheletes in all sports. 

Here is the article: http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/10538276/mark-cuban-says-nba-d-league-better-option-ncaa

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 Unfortunately, I think it’ll be a while until the NCAA starts giving out anything to players monetary wise, they are too busy lining their pockets. Its a damn shame, these kids cant even get a meal bought for them without getting people jumping up and down about improper benefits and all that load of crap.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 Unfortunately, I think it’ll be a while until the NCAA starts giving out anything to players monetary wise, they are too busy lining their pockets. Its a damn shame, these kids cant even get a meal bought for them without getting people jumping up and down about improper benefits and all that load of crap.

[HitsterParticipant]

 The NCAA covers many sports and has no obligation to the major leagues of any sport or vice versa. It suits most sports that players will go to college and help develop their games and also keeps the fundamentals of the draft in place to spread the talent evenly around the teams.

Maybe if the NBA did more to help player development then it would encourage teams to draft more instead of trading picks as bigger teams often do to be win now.

One idea I would throw out is maybe treat these young drafted players almost the same as "veteran minimum" players whereby the league underwrites some of the salary.

With the league underwriting veteran minimum contracts they are very attractive to challenging teams, they get proven guys to maybe full the bench for much less than drafting a longer term prospect. So if you were a Pat Riley or Mark Cuban/Donnie Nelson you’d probably prefer the cheaper much more proven option.

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 The NCAA covers many sports and has no obligation to the major leagues of any sport or vice versa. It suits most sports that players will go to college and help develop their games and also keeps the fundamentals of the draft in place to spread the talent evenly around the teams.

Maybe if the NBA did more to help player development then it would encourage teams to draft more instead of trading picks as bigger teams often do to be win now.

One idea I would throw out is maybe treat these young drafted players almost the same as "veteran minimum" players whereby the league underwrites some of the salary.

With the league underwriting veteran minimum contracts they are very attractive to challenging teams, they get proven guys to maybe full the bench for much less than drafting a longer term prospect. So if you were a Pat Riley or Mark Cuban/Donnie Nelson you’d probably prefer the cheaper much more proven option.

 

 

 

 

 

[Scott42444Participant]

 The key to the NBA having a higher talent level is to properly develop the NBDL.  There are still some teams, my Bulls are one of them, that don’t have their "own" affiliate.  They share the Iowa Energy with about 4-5 other teams.  If there were 34 NBDL teams, 4 of which are run by the NBA in some way, the NBA Draft could either be expanded or altered to include more players.  The 4 NBA run teams would be available for guys like Glen Rice Jr. last year and P.J. Hariston this year, who are either kicked off their college team or in the case of others they just are not academically eligible.  In Chicago, Curie High School just forfeited their 4OT victory in the Chicago Public League Championship game because they had 7 players ineligible.  That means that 7 guys on their varisty team had less than a 2.0 GPA and there was NO PLAN IN PLACE (!!!!!!!) by the school to give them extra help to raise the GPA.  Don’t know if Cliff Alexander is one of them, and it doesn’t matter.  There is a Top 5 NBA Draft pick on that team and half of the team isn’t focused enough on academics to have over a 2.0 GPA.  If you multiply that by AMERICA, there have to be plenty of guys who are just struggling to get into college.  Instead of going to Europe, have them play in a league that helps THEIR exposure and helps NBA GM’s with scouting.

Also, the NBA is being decimated by injuries.  A team like San Antonio, which is a system oriented team, has really benefited by having a D-League affiliate playing the same system as the "major league" club.  They have been able to plug in guys to their roster when needed and have SOME trust that they can play the type of system that they need in order to win meaningful games.  A team like the Bulls don’t have that option and are forced to keep resigning Mike James to 10-day contracts because GOD FORBID they have to put him in they can trust he won’t just run around like an idiot not knowing the plays and system.  It also hurts the younger guys like Varnado that they do sign, because he is just wasting his time sitting on th bench as a seat filler.  He won’t get to practice much with the Bulls, because NBA teams don’t practice much during the season.  He won’t get in the game because their coach would rather play 5 guys 48 minutes than put even ONE player on the court whom he doesn’t trust.  

Finally, I have to disagree with Hitster’s last point.  The reason the CBA insisted on having the league underwrite veteran minimum contracts is for the EXACT OPPOSITE to happen from what you are proposing.  It’s simlar to any worker’s union in the United States.  Veterans don’t want to get replaced by younger guys because it would greatly shorten the average player’s "lifespan" in the league if it were cheaper to sign young talent.  Then, the league is back to having a bench full of potential laden teenagers instead of useful, yet "what you see is what you get" veterans.  Any union in the U.S. wants to prevent a company from firing all of the higher priced "veterans", who have a mortgage and a family and have given years of loyal service to the company, in order to hire cheaper (less likely to stand up for their own rights) and less dependant young employees.

 

 

[Scott42444Participant]

 The key to the NBA having a higher talent level is to properly develop the NBDL.  There are still some teams, my Bulls are one of them, that don’t have their "own" affiliate.  They share the Iowa Energy with about 4-5 other teams.  If there were 34 NBDL teams, 4 of which are run by the NBA in some way, the NBA Draft could either be expanded or altered to include more players.  The 4 NBA run teams would be available for guys like Glen Rice Jr. last year and P.J. Hariston this year, who are either kicked off their college team or in the case of others they just are not academically eligible.  In Chicago, Curie High School just forfeited their 4OT victory in the Chicago Public League Championship game because they had 7 players ineligible.  That means that 7 guys on their varisty team had less than a 2.0 GPA and there was NO PLAN IN PLACE (!!!!!!!) by the school to give them extra help to raise the GPA.  Don’t know if Cliff Alexander is one of them, and it doesn’t matter.  There is a Top 5 NBA Draft pick on that team and half of the team isn’t focused enough on academics to have over a 2.0 GPA.  If you multiply that by AMERICA, there have to be plenty of guys who are just struggling to get into college.  Instead of going to Europe, have them play in a league that helps THEIR exposure and helps NBA GM’s with scouting.

Also, the NBA is being decimated by injuries.  A team like San Antonio, which is a system oriented team, has really benefited by having a D-League affiliate playing the same system as the "major league" club.  They have been able to plug in guys to their roster when needed and have SOME trust that they can play the type of system that they need in order to win meaningful games.  A team like the Bulls don’t have that option and are forced to keep resigning Mike James to 10-day contracts because GOD FORBID they have to put him in they can trust he won’t just run around like an idiot not knowing the plays and system.  It also hurts the younger guys like Varnado that they do sign, because he is just wasting his time sitting on th bench as a seat filler.  He won’t get to practice much with the Bulls, because NBA teams don’t practice much during the season.  He won’t get in the game because their coach would rather play 5 guys 48 minutes than put even ONE player on the court whom he doesn’t trust.  

Finally, I have to disagree with Hitster’s last point.  The reason the CBA insisted on having the league underwrite veteran minimum contracts is for the EXACT OPPOSITE to happen from what you are proposing.  It’s simlar to any worker’s union in the United States.  Veterans don’t want to get replaced by younger guys because it would greatly shorten the average player’s "lifespan" in the league if it were cheaper to sign young talent.  Then, the league is back to having a bench full of potential laden teenagers instead of useful, yet "what you see is what you get" veterans.  Any union in the U.S. wants to prevent a company from firing all of the higher priced "veterans", who have a mortgage and a family and have given years of loyal service to the company, in order to hire cheaper (less likely to stand up for their own rights) and less dependant young employees.

 

 

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