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  • #50374
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    BenAgent0
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    Luol Deng might be shipped to Washington..

    Details Here: http://wizofawes.com/2013/06/24/deng-to-wizards/

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  • #804469
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    Moon River
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    I love the NBA offseason. Lets see if the Cavs step up their offer. They have been connected to Deng for some time.

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  • #804534
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    Moon River
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    I love the NBA offseason. Lets see if the Cavs step up their offer. They have been connected to Deng for some time.

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  • #804471
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    FutureNBAGM
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    Still not a very good deal for Washington imo. They would essentially be dumping the 3rd pick in return for a one year rental on Deng. I would pass if I were the Wizards.

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  • #804536
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    FutureNBAGM
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    Still not a very good deal for Washington imo. They would essentially be dumping the 3rd pick in return for a one year rental on Deng. I would pass if I were the Wizards.

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  • #804479
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    Wizzzarddds
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    of course luol deng will be better than the 3rd pick in the immediate future, but if we trade away okafor… who’s playing center???

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  • #804544
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    Wizzzarddds
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    of course luol deng will be better than the 3rd pick in the immediate future, but if we trade away okafor… who’s playing center???

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  • #804475
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    CAROLINA BLUE NICK
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    You been on point with the updates today huh lol? Washington is definitely trying to make a playoff push now. But IF this goes down, who would the Bulls take?

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    • #804483
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      Darius22
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      My guess would be Otto Porter

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      • #804493
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        CAROLINA BLUE NICK
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        But they have Jimmy Butler. Unless they plan on playing him at the 2.

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        • #804505
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          cuseflynn10
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          I think the Bulls would take McLemore if their trading Deng for the #3 pick. What’s the point in trading Deng for Porter? Deng is more expensive and older, while Porter will have a rookie contract and is also a solid player, but he’s unproven at the NBA level. I think they’d be better off sliding Butler to SF and drafting either McLemore or Oladipo, preferably McLemore as his outside game could flourish alongside Rose.

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          • #804509
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            CAROLINA BLUE NICK
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            I agree with both you guys. The more I thought about it, it would be between McLemore or Oladipo. I actually think because Thibs is so defensive minded, if the Magic don’t take Oladipo as projected on this site, then I think they may lean towards him more so than McLemore.

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            • #804517
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              Velvet Hoop
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              But supposedly the Magic like Oladipo at 2, so he could be gone by 3. However, Chicago pretty much know that one of those two will be available and maybe they just take whichever one Orlando doesn’t.

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            • #804582
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              Velvet Hoop
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              But supposedly the Magic like Oladipo at 2, so he could be gone by 3. However, Chicago pretty much know that one of those two will be available and maybe they just take whichever one Orlando doesn’t.

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            • #804521
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              jonus grumby
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              I agree Tibbs thinks defense first but I would hope management realizes they need to get into the 90 point/game range to beat the Heat. They are not going to win a series against the Heat scoring in the 70’s or low 80’s. I think it is easier to get an offensive player and teach him team defense then to get a defensive player and teach him to score.

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            • #804586
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              jonus grumby
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              I agree Tibbs thinks defense first but I would hope management realizes they need to get into the 90 point/game range to beat the Heat. They are not going to win a series against the Heat scoring in the 70’s or low 80’s. I think it is easier to get an offensive player and teach him team defense then to get a defensive player and teach him to score.

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          • #804574
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            CAROLINA BLUE NICK
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            I agree with both you guys. The more I thought about it, it would be between McLemore or Oladipo. I actually think because Thibs is so defensive minded, if the Magic don’t take Oladipo as projected on this site, then I think they may lean towards him more so than McLemore.

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        • #804570
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          cuseflynn10
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          I think the Bulls would take McLemore if their trading Deng for the #3 pick. What’s the point in trading Deng for Porter? Deng is more expensive and older, while Porter will have a rookie contract and is also a solid player, but he’s unproven at the NBA level. I think they’d be better off sliding Butler to SF and drafting either McLemore or Oladipo, preferably McLemore as his outside game could flourish alongside Rose.

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        • #804499
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          Velvet Hoop
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          McLemore at 3 in this scenario? D Rose, McLemore and Butler would be pretty impressive.

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        • #804564
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          Velvet Hoop
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          McLemore at 3 in this scenario? D Rose, McLemore and Butler would be pretty impressive.

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      • #804558
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        CAROLINA BLUE NICK
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        But they have Jimmy Butler. Unless they plan on playing him at the 2.

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    • #804548
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      Darius22
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      My guess would be Otto Porter

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  • #804540
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    CAROLINA BLUE NICK
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    You been on point with the updates today huh lol? Washington is definitely trying to make a playoff push now. But IF this goes down, who would the Bulls take?

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  • #804477
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    HobbyOG
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    This would get the wizards in the bottom seed of the playoffs..I know the Bulls are trying to save money but that 3rd pick will not replace Loul numbers..

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  • #804542
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    HobbyOG
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    This would get the wizards in the bottom seed of the playoffs..I know the Bulls are trying to save money but that 3rd pick will not replace Loul numbers..

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  • #804485
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    kobyz
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    stupied Bulls, why to unload the team?? instead try to win, to improve and to beat Miami…

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  • #804550
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    kobyz
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    stupied Bulls, why to unload the team?? instead try to win, to improve and to beat Miami…

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  • #804501
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    TRC1991
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    my guess is Chicago would select ben mclemore or oladipo at 3 depending on who Orlando picks

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  • #804566
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    TRC1991
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    my guess is Chicago would select ben mclemore or oladipo at 3 depending on who Orlando picks

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  • #804507
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    jonus grumby
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    IF the Bulls have decided not to sign Deng to a long term deal or if they have tried to get an idea of what the $$ would be and that is out of their thinking I would attempt to trade him. I do think Butler is more of a 3 then a 2. Of course next year if healthy Deng is better then whoever they would draft. I am happy that the Bulls are at least looking to be proactive rather then sitting back and taking what comes their way.

    So next year they would have:
    Rose
    McLemore/Porter
    Butler
    Boozer/Gibson
    Noah/Okafor

    Then they could dump Boozer and be well under the cap in ’14.

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    • #804515
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      thricethefun
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      Porter will never play shooting guard.

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      • #804523
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        jonus grumby
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        I realize he will not play SG it just seemed easier to list the draft options in my opinion on the same line and realize if they drafted Porter then Butler would be the 2 even though I don’t think he is a 2.

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        • #804938
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          Mr. 19134
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          I get what you meant and felt like you did it the easiest way for writing and readers some people take thinks to literal.

          My question is why is everybody assuming Boozer would start over Okafor? Okafor is younger in better shape and levels beyond better then Boozer on defense. Okafor would also allow Noah to play PF which would do wonders for his durability.

          In this scenario with Noah at Pf and Okafor at C keeping Butler at SG and drafting Porter keeps Chicago a formidable defensive team while giving Rose 2 very young talented long hard nosed athletic wings to grow with which segues into my next comment…..

          TBD

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        • #805002
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          Mr. 19134
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          I get what you meant and felt like you did it the easiest way for writing and readers some people take thinks to literal.

          My question is why is everybody assuming Boozer would start over Okafor? Okafor is younger in better shape and levels beyond better then Boozer on defense. Okafor would also allow Noah to play PF which would do wonders for his durability.

          In this scenario with Noah at Pf and Okafor at C keeping Butler at SG and drafting Porter keeps Chicago a formidable defensive team while giving Rose 2 very young talented long hard nosed athletic wings to grow with which segues into my next comment…..

          TBD

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      • #804588
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        jonus grumby
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        I realize he will not play SG it just seemed easier to list the draft options in my opinion on the same line and realize if they drafted Porter then Butler would be the 2 even though I don’t think he is a 2.

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    • #804580
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      thricethefun
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      Porter will never play shooting guard.

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  • #804572
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    jonus grumby
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    IF the Bulls have decided not to sign Deng to a long term deal or if they have tried to get an idea of what the $$ would be and that is out of their thinking I would attempt to trade him. I do think Butler is more of a 3 then a 2. Of course next year if healthy Deng is better then whoever they would draft. I am happy that the Bulls are at least looking to be proactive rather then sitting back and taking what comes their way.

    So next year they would have:
    Rose
    McLemore/Porter
    Butler
    Boozer/Gibson
    Noah/Okafor

    Then they could dump Boozer and be well under the cap in ’14.

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  • #804525
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    Wizzzarddds
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    Mike Wise @MikeWiseguy

    @ESPNSteinLine @funnydanny @TrueHoop Already hearing Bulls are trying to up Deng’s value and nothing to it, for what it’s worth.

    ernie grunfeld is stupid but he can’t possibly be that stupid

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    • #804967
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      Mr. 19134
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      You’re not thinking in perspective you’re thinking through potential only eyes instead of reality if you think this be a dumb trade for the Wiz. The popular pick for the Wiz is Porter whose best case career trajectory is right along with what Deng has accomplished. Theyd theoretically be trading for Porter in his prime instead of drafting and developing which hasn’t been working great for them.

      Deng is only 28 and could start at either forward spot. He’s smart with a great work ethic and a high character and is exactly the type of vet the Wiz need. Since he’s healthy and in the peak of his prime he can both tell and show the young wiz how to do

      They should then resign Webster and roll out a lineup of Wall, Beal, Webster, Deng and Nene and they’re be competing everynight.

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    • #805032
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      Mr. 19134
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      You’re not thinking in perspective you’re thinking through potential only eyes instead of reality if you think this be a dumb trade for the Wiz. The popular pick for the Wiz is Porter whose best case career trajectory is right along with what Deng has accomplished. Theyd theoretically be trading for Porter in his prime instead of drafting and developing which hasn’t been working great for them.

      Deng is only 28 and could start at either forward spot. He’s smart with a great work ethic and a high character and is exactly the type of vet the Wiz need. Since he’s healthy and in the peak of his prime he can both tell and show the young wiz how to do

      They should then resign Webster and roll out a lineup of Wall, Beal, Webster, Deng and Nene and they’re be competing everynight.

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  • #804590
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    Wizzzarddds
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    Mike Wise @MikeWiseguy

    @ESPNSteinLine @funnydanny @TrueHoop Already hearing Bulls are trying to up Deng’s value and nothing to it, for what it’s worth.

    ernie grunfeld is stupid but he can’t possibly be that stupid

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  • #804535
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    Moon River
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    Sports radio in Chicago is claiming McLemore would be the pick at #3. Hard to believe the Wiz make this deal though. I think Deng’s time in Chicago is coming to an end.

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  • #804600
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    Moon River
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    Sports radio in Chicago is claiming McLemore would be the pick at #3. Hard to believe the Wiz make this deal though. I think Deng’s time in Chicago is coming to an end.

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  • #804608
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    BenAgent0
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    Michael Lee confirms that the Wizards have no intentions on making the deal..

    Here: http://wizofawes.com/2013/06/24/deng-to-wizards/

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  • #804543
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    BenAgent0
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    Michael Lee confirms that the Wizards have no intentions on making the deal..

    Here: http://wizofawes.com/2013/06/24/deng-to-wizards/

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  • #804634
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    capecodder
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    Wiz better off with Porter at rookie scale….my gut feel is that he will be outstanding…..by the way I’m a huge Deng fan after seeing how he stopped Pierce over the past few years and as Celtics fan hoped he would end up in Boston

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  • #804569
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    capecodder
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    Wiz better off with Porter at rookie scale….my gut feel is that he will be outstanding…..by the way I’m a huge Deng fan after seeing how he stopped Pierce over the past few years and as Celtics fan hoped he would end up in Boston

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    • #804660
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      Velvet Hoop
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      The pricetag is much lower on Porter and there is much less mileage on the wheels.

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    • #804595
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      Velvet Hoop
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      The pricetag is much lower on Porter and there is much less mileage on the wheels.

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  • #804717
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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    Deng is a proven commodity that while Porter is only thought to good at this point. I guy can have all the skills in the world (see Monta Ellis) and not be winning contributor to team. I’m not saying Porter won’t be a winning player just thjat there is a large difference in value between a veteran and a prospect even if they appear equal.

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  • #804781
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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    Deng is a proven commodity that while Porter is only thought to good at this point. I guy can have all the skills in the world (see Monta Ellis) and not be winning contributor to team. I’m not saying Porter won’t be a winning player just thjat there is a large difference in value between a veteran and a prospect even if they appear equal.

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  • #804731
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    stacebeans
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    Just a thought.
    Bulls should ship out deng and #3 and a player or cash. Go after a sg like oj mayo or redick.
    Rose can’t do it by himself and needs a REAL SG who can shoot the 3 and create his shot

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  • #804795
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    stacebeans
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    Just a thought.
    Bulls should ship out deng and #3 and a player or cash. Go after a sg like oj mayo or redick.
    Rose can’t do it by himself and needs a REAL SG who can shoot the 3 and create his shot

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  • #804751
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    Hitster
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    The Bulls would surely be more “win now” than Washington are especially if D-Rose comes back and so to ship Deng their longest serving player would be strange but Jimmy Butler is a good replacement as he proved in the play offs and if they could get 3rd pick for a guy who could move via FA next summer then it is an interesting option.

    Oladipo immediately sprang to mind when I thought who Chicago would consider if they got the 3rd pick but with Orlando apparently high on him then he may be off the board at 3. Noel would not make much sense as they have Noah, Boozer and Gibson in the frontcourt and also Mirotic due to come over in a year or so’s time.

    Hence I have to agree with the guys above and say Ben McLemore woud be a great fit alongside D-Rose, he has great athleticism and his length would be a great tool for Coach Thibs to work on his defensive game with, he is a potentially elite shooter who will spread the floor and give D-Rose a lot of options.

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  • #804815
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    The Bulls would surely be more “win now” than Washington are especially if D-Rose comes back and so to ship Deng their longest serving player would be strange but Jimmy Butler is a good replacement as he proved in the play offs and if they could get 3rd pick for a guy who could move via FA next summer then it is an interesting option.

    Oladipo immediately sprang to mind when I thought who Chicago would consider if they got the 3rd pick but with Orlando apparently high on him then he may be off the board at 3. Noel would not make much sense as they have Noah, Boozer and Gibson in the frontcourt and also Mirotic due to come over in a year or so’s time.

    Hence I have to agree with the guys above and say Ben McLemore woud be a great fit alongside D-Rose, he has great athleticism and his length would be a great tool for Coach Thibs to work on his defensive game with, he is a potentially elite shooter who will spread the floor and give D-Rose a lot of options.

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  • #804877
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    tcc316
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    if chicago trades deng it will be because of all his injuries over the last 2-3 yrs. and it will be for mcclemore

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  • #804814
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    tcc316
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    if chicago trades deng it will be because of all his injuries over the last 2-3 yrs. and it will be for mcclemore

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  • #804919
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    Dennis11
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    In the backcourt sounds very good to me. Rose/McLemore/Butler/(anyone but Boozer/Noah is a great lineup

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  • #804983
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    Dennis11
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    In the backcourt sounds very good to me. Rose/McLemore/Butler/(anyone but Boozer/Noah is a great lineup

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  • #804948
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    Ghost01
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    Butler is already doing A LOT of what Deng did, and he’s much younger. Bring in McLemore, and now you have a very nice young nucleus on the perimeter with him Rose and Butler.

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  • #805012
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    Ghost01
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    Butler is already doing A LOT of what Deng did, and he’s much younger. Bring in McLemore, and now you have a very nice young nucleus on the perimeter with him Rose and Butler.

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  • #804977
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    Mr. 19134
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    Just for fun if this trade were to happen I wouldn’t be so fast to pen McLemore and or Oladipo in. I think Len and Bennet offer intriguing options as well. Lens potential especially on a team with Rose at Pg and Noah at Pf could be too kuch to pass on.

    While Bennet could play either forward spot and eventually replace Boozer but also provide a scary running mate for Rose who knows how to bang in the post.

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  • #805042
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    Mr. 19134
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    Just for fun if this trade were to happen I wouldn’t be so fast to pen McLemore and or Oladipo in. I think Len and Bennet offer intriguing options as well. Lens potential especially on a team with Rose at Pg and Noah at Pf could be too kuch to pass on.

    While Bennet could play either forward spot and eventually replace Boozer but also provide a scary running mate for Rose who knows how to bang in the post.

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  • #804973
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    lockdownD

    That awkward moment when the Bulls rebuild.

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    lockdownD

    That awkward moment when the Bulls rebuild.

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