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- Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 4:45pm #63180

Taylor Gang MikeParticipantHaving a great season. Kid is really good. Big game today. He is 6’6, smooth freshman. Will he declare after this great season he is having?? He reminds me of Eddie Jones so much. Really good shooter. O course he is Lottery, but can he go top 10?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 5:21pm #1049894
BiggysmallsParticipantHope he stays. Needs to improve his all around game. He’s really streaky—which isn’t surprising given he’s a freshman and he takes a lot of contested long jumpers.
Could be a guy that comes back and is the go-to guy for Cuse. I could see him getting putting up 16-`8 points, 4-6 rebounds and 3 assists. Get a little bigger and stronger. He could elevate his stock to the lottery range.
That said, he’ll probably leave because everybody that was ever a 4-5 star recruit and or averages more than 10 ppg in college thinks they should leave a year early. It makes me cynical.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 5:21pm #1050026
BiggysmallsParticipantHope he stays. Needs to improve his all around game. He’s really streaky—which isn’t surprising given he’s a freshman and he takes a lot of contested long jumpers.
Could be a guy that comes back and is the go-to guy for Cuse. I could see him getting putting up 16-`8 points, 4-6 rebounds and 3 assists. Get a little bigger and stronger. He could elevate his stock to the lottery range.
That said, he’ll probably leave because everybody that was ever a 4-5 star recruit and or averages more than 10 ppg in college thinks they should leave a year early. It makes me cynical.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 7:33pm #1049908

AdamJCallejaParticipantMalachi > James Young
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 7:33pm #1050039

AdamJCallejaParticipantMalachi > James Young
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 8:44pm #1049914

RUDEBOY_Participanthe has been 1 of the most fun players to watch during the tourney…a bit inconsistent and somewhat of a showboater..but still fun to watch…
no not top 10 and not even lottery this yr..maybe late 1st to 2nd round if he comes out this yr..but he could really help himself in the long run,by returning for another yr..he does have alot of positives,that make me feel like with a better understanding of how to play the game… along with more maturity,he could be a top 20 talent next season.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 8:44pm #1050045

RUDEBOY_Participanthe has been 1 of the most fun players to watch during the tourney…a bit inconsistent and somewhat of a showboater..but still fun to watch…
no not top 10 and not even lottery this yr..maybe late 1st to 2nd round if he comes out this yr..but he could really help himself in the long run,by returning for another yr..he does have alot of positives,that make me feel like with a better understanding of how to play the game… along with more maturity,he could be a top 20 talent next season.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/28/2016 - 3:54am #1049926
machu46ParticipantI just don’t see it. I mean, you certainly see flashes in his game, but I’m not sure what you would be drafting him for.
He’s not a particularly good defender in the zone yet; I suppose he does have the length to develop though.
He’s nothing special as a rebounder. He’s been a decent perimeter shooter, but nothing special. He’s been horrific inside the 3 point line. He’s shooting roughly 38% from 2 point range.
Even in the tournament, he’s been incredibly inefficient. In the tournament, he’s shooting 30% from the field and 25% from 3 point range. I just don’t see how any scout looks at his game and thinks he’s worth a draft pick right now; he needs some major improvements. I think it would be pretty difficult to sell an NBA GM on a SG that scores about as efficiently as Michael Carter-Williams while bringing nothing else to the floor. And he’s only a few months younger than James Young; he’ll be 21 next year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/28/2016 - 3:54am #1050057
machu46ParticipantI just don’t see it. I mean, you certainly see flashes in his game, but I’m not sure what you would be drafting him for.
He’s not a particularly good defender in the zone yet; I suppose he does have the length to develop though.
He’s nothing special as a rebounder. He’s been a decent perimeter shooter, but nothing special. He’s been horrific inside the 3 point line. He’s shooting roughly 38% from 2 point range.
Even in the tournament, he’s been incredibly inefficient. In the tournament, he’s shooting 30% from the field and 25% from 3 point range. I just don’t see how any scout looks at his game and thinks he’s worth a draft pick right now; he needs some major improvements. I think it would be pretty difficult to sell an NBA GM on a SG that scores about as efficiently as Michael Carter-Williams while bringing nothing else to the floor. And he’s only a few months younger than James Young; he’ll be 21 next year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/28/2016 - 4:06am #1049928
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantNo way he is top 10 or in the lottery right now. Before the tourament he wasnt even a guy that was mentioned as a possible one and done. Still needs work on his ball-handling and decision making. Maybe a team would take a chance on him in the first round due to his strong tournament play but he is in no way NBA ready right now and would probably be one of those guys that goes back and forth to the d-league for a few seasons. I think he would be much better served coming back to school for at least one more season.
Malachi does have prototypical size and athleticism to play on the wing at the next level. He has the physical tools to be a very good defender although it’s kind of hard to get a read on his one on one defensive ability because Syracuse always plays zone. The one thing I will say about him is that he doesn’t lack confidence and doesn’t seem to be afraid of the moment which is a quality that any great scorer needs. However, he is still pretty streaky and inconsistent right now. He can shoot you into or out of a game.
0- Posted on: Wed, 03/30/2016 - 8:50am #1050395

goldie92689ParticipantI really wish we could evolve on the zone excuse when looking at Syracuse players. It’s just really lazy. All the cliches are ridiculous. They play man in a team defense, Thats just what they do. The only thing they don’t do is a follow someone around when they don;t have the ball. I have yet to see the poor NBA defender from Syracuse. If you want to know if they kid can defend, just watch the game. He has a lot more going on in his head playing zone than just following a man around and resting on players that are not threats to score.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/30/2016 - 8:50am #1050527

goldie92689ParticipantI really wish we could evolve on the zone excuse when looking at Syracuse players. It’s just really lazy. All the cliches are ridiculous. They play man in a team defense, Thats just what they do. The only thing they don’t do is a follow someone around when they don;t have the ball. I have yet to see the poor NBA defender from Syracuse. If you want to know if they kid can defend, just watch the game. He has a lot more going on in his head playing zone than just following a man around and resting on players that are not threats to score.
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- Posted on: Mon, 03/28/2016 - 4:06am #1050059
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantNo way he is top 10 or in the lottery right now. Before the tourament he wasnt even a guy that was mentioned as a possible one and done. Still needs work on his ball-handling and decision making. Maybe a team would take a chance on him in the first round due to his strong tournament play but he is in no way NBA ready right now and would probably be one of those guys that goes back and forth to the d-league for a few seasons. I think he would be much better served coming back to school for at least one more season.
Malachi does have prototypical size and athleticism to play on the wing at the next level. He has the physical tools to be a very good defender although it’s kind of hard to get a read on his one on one defensive ability because Syracuse always plays zone. The one thing I will say about him is that he doesn’t lack confidence and doesn’t seem to be afraid of the moment which is a quality that any great scorer needs. However, he is still pretty streaky and inconsistent right now. He can shoot you into or out of a game.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/28/2016 - 10:10am #1049960

dcaseParticipantFor Syracuse’s sake (as well as his) I hope he doesn’t declare for the draft. They will be loaded on the front line next year but will not have much depth in the backcourt. He will likely play a lot at the 2 and will be the go to guy on the perimeter.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/28/2016 - 10:10am #1050091

dcaseParticipantFor Syracuse’s sake (as well as his) I hope he doesn’t declare for the draft. They will be loaded on the front line next year but will not have much depth in the backcourt. He will likely play a lot at the 2 and will be the go to guy on the perimeter.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/28/2016 - 2:00pm #1050125
nill650ParticipantI like this prospect & a breakout game in the elite 8= 1st round considerations when your ceiling was already projected to eventually be a contributor in the league someday. I’d spend a 1st round pick on him in the 12-20 range if i was a team in rebuild like philly or the t-wolves. Obviously dependent on who else was available,but given the lack of wings with proto size and athleticism in the first round this year that arn’t already 22 or older,has to be a consideration even late lottery. He isn’t going to come in and dominate the league this year or next, but he could be a starter on a bad team and get good minutes against the elite. That has its pros and cons but in the long run the pros outweight the cons if he is driven to excell at all anyway.
The more intriguing prospect that should be moving up to 1st round considerations from cuse is Roberson, but in a draft loaded with bigs he probably goes mid 2nd unless the orange win it all.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/28/2016 - 2:00pm #1049993
nill650ParticipantI like this prospect & a breakout game in the elite 8= 1st round considerations when your ceiling was already projected to eventually be a contributor in the league someday. I’d spend a 1st round pick on him in the 12-20 range if i was a team in rebuild like philly or the t-wolves. Obviously dependent on who else was available,but given the lack of wings with proto size and athleticism in the first round this year that arn’t already 22 or older,has to be a consideration even late lottery. He isn’t going to come in and dominate the league this year or next, but he could be a starter on a bad team and get good minutes against the elite. That has its pros and cons but in the long run the pros outweight the cons if he is driven to excell at all anyway.
The more intriguing prospect that should be moving up to 1st round considerations from cuse is Roberson, but in a draft loaded with bigs he probably goes mid 2nd unless the orange win it all.
0- Posted on: Tue, 03/29/2016 - 2:46am #1050213
machu46ParticipantHonestly, what is an NBA team drafting Roberson for? He tries hard on the glass and running in transition, but he has no offensive game whatsoever even relative to college players. Barring some sort of unforeseen development (he hasn’t really developed much if at all in his time at Syracuse), you’re drafting an undersized PF that can’t do anything offensively and is a lazy defender. I love the way he hustles on the glass and tries to run the floor, but he’s not an NBA prospect.
He’s nowhere near being a 1st round prospect.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/29/2016 - 2:46am #1050082
machu46ParticipantHonestly, what is an NBA team drafting Roberson for? He tries hard on the glass and running in transition, but he has no offensive game whatsoever even relative to college players. Barring some sort of unforeseen development (he hasn’t really developed much if at all in his time at Syracuse), you’re drafting an undersized PF that can’t do anything offensively and is a lazy defender. I love the way he hustles on the glass and tries to run the floor, but he’s not an NBA prospect.
He’s nowhere near being a 1st round prospect.
0- Posted on: Tue, 03/29/2016 - 12:21pm #1050138
nill650ParticipantYeah Roberson has been unimpressive for long stretches, but his play of late has been stellar. he leads all players in rebounds of the 4 teams left including bryce johnson and ochefu , the only prospect that was on par to make more if his team had’nt gotten outplayed by roberson himself is sabonis.
take it with a grain of salt, but big time players show up in big time games and that should be enough to get drafted mid 2nd. just saying
for the recond in todays nba an extremely athletic forward with legit 7’2" wingspan a 40" vert and a motor that can crash the glass and pass doesn’t need to be an outside shooter to make it in the league,if he couls shoot at all he would be in the lottery.
0- Posted on: Wed, 03/30/2016 - 2:35am #1050394
machu46ParticipantRoberson is a really weird player. He has a great motor when it comes to pursuing rebounds and running in transition, but once Syracuse gets into the zone…I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a lazier defender in the zone. I’ve certainly never seen a high motor player look like he cares so little on defense.
And it’s one thing if he simply can’t shoot, but he can’t shoot, he can’t dribble, he can’t finish around the basket. He’s an offensive liability at the college level; I’m not sure he’s playable in the NBA given how severe his weaknesses are.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/30/2016 - 2:35am #1050262
machu46ParticipantRoberson is a really weird player. He has a great motor when it comes to pursuing rebounds and running in transition, but once Syracuse gets into the zone…I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a lazier defender in the zone. I’ve certainly never seen a high motor player look like he cares so little on defense.
And it’s one thing if he simply can’t shoot, but he can’t shoot, he can’t dribble, he can’t finish around the basket. He’s an offensive liability at the college level; I’m not sure he’s playable in the NBA given how severe his weaknesses are.
0- Posted on: Wed, 03/30/2016 - 11:52am #1050424
nill650Participantyeah we’ll see how he fares against carolinas front line,and if he gets his but handed to him he probably won’t declare this season anyway. At this point i think it unlikely he will ever be an offensive threat at the next level beyond 10′. but to declare him incapable of finishing is like saying you have never seen him play at all. he’s underated as a defender because of the zone, it does’nt benefit him when teams avoid him.
read the recent addition on this site:
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0- Posted on: Thu, 03/31/2016 - 1:49am #1050681
machu46ParticipantHe’s a terrible finisher outside of uncontested dunks. He has no touch and he shies away from contact.
And it’s more difficult to project a defender in the zone, but it’s blatantly obvious if you watch him during the course of a game that he’s very lazy in his rotations. Everyone else hustles around while he walks. This is why opponents have focused on positioning their shooters on his side of the zone. They’ve noticed that he’s lazy on closeouts and also tends to pinch inside even when he has the best shooter in his zone.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/31/2016 - 1:49am #1050549
machu46ParticipantHe’s a terrible finisher outside of uncontested dunks. He has no touch and he shies away from contact.
And it’s more difficult to project a defender in the zone, but it’s blatantly obvious if you watch him during the course of a game that he’s very lazy in his rotations. Everyone else hustles around while he walks. This is why opponents have focused on positioning their shooters on his side of the zone. They’ve noticed that he’s lazy on closeouts and also tends to pinch inside even when he has the best shooter in his zone.
0- Posted on: Thu, 03/31/2016 - 11:06am #1050649
nill650Participantyeah i guess you don’t like tyler roberson , whatever. just another prospect in the huge fishbowl of prospects?
He is showing his atheticism to be elite,so regardless of his weakness he will get drafted and if he works he will get paid.
keep it simple there are alot of far more skilled tweeners trying to get into the league that will be passed on for this guy because they simply do not have the athleticism to compete.
I get you thinking he does’nt have a motor when he looks disinterested, but having a motor and not using it when you don’t need it is just time management.
I remember thinking the same thing about Wiggins in college, seemed disinterested at times questioned his motor.
he’s doing just fine is’nt he.
0- Posted on: Fri, 04/01/2016 - 3:21am #1050964
machu46ParticipantLol, Wiggins conserved his energy because he didn’t want to get hurt/because his team relied on him to score. What is Roberson conserving energy for? He can’t do anything with the ball in his hands, so why would he be conserving his energy on the defensive end?
I’d be very surprised if Roberson gets drafted if he were to leave this year. Perhaps he suddenly improves a ton over the offseason and could sneak into the 2nd round, but this current version of Roberson probably isn’t getting drafted into the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 04/01/2016 - 3:21am #1050834
machu46ParticipantLol, Wiggins conserved his energy because he didn’t want to get hurt/because his team relied on him to score. What is Roberson conserving energy for? He can’t do anything with the ball in his hands, so why would he be conserving his energy on the defensive end?
I’d be very surprised if Roberson gets drafted if he were to leave this year. Perhaps he suddenly improves a ton over the offseason and could sneak into the 2nd round, but this current version of Roberson probably isn’t getting drafted into the NBA.
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- Posted on: Thu, 03/31/2016 - 11:06am #1050781
nill650Participantyeah i guess you don’t like tyler roberson , whatever. just another prospect in the huge fishbowl of prospects?
He is showing his atheticism to be elite,so regardless of his weakness he will get drafted and if he works he will get paid.
keep it simple there are alot of far more skilled tweeners trying to get into the league that will be passed on for this guy because they simply do not have the athleticism to compete.
I get you thinking he does’nt have a motor when he looks disinterested, but having a motor and not using it when you don’t need it is just time management.
I remember thinking the same thing about Wiggins in college, seemed disinterested at times questioned his motor.
he’s doing just fine is’nt he.
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- Posted on: Wed, 03/30/2016 - 11:52am #1050556
nill650Participantyeah we’ll see how he fares against carolinas front line,and if he gets his but handed to him he probably won’t declare this season anyway. At this point i think it unlikely he will ever be an offensive threat at the next level beyond 10′. but to declare him incapable of finishing is like saying you have never seen him play at all. he’s underated as a defender because of the zone, it does’nt benefit him when teams avoid him.
read the recent addition on this site:
Stock Watch: Sweet Sixteen/Elite Eight
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/29/2016 - 12:21pm #1050269
nill650ParticipantYeah Roberson has been unimpressive for long stretches, but his play of late has been stellar. he leads all players in rebounds of the 4 teams left including bryce johnson and ochefu , the only prospect that was on par to make more if his team had’nt gotten outplayed by roberson himself is sabonis.
take it with a grain of salt, but big time players show up in big time games and that should be enough to get drafted mid 2nd. just saying
for the recond in todays nba an extremely athletic forward with legit 7’2" wingspan a 40" vert and a motor that can crash the glass and pass doesn’t need to be an outside shooter to make it in the league,if he couls shoot at all he would be in the lottery.
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