[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 3 yr deal for 21 mil. I don’t know about this. I know the Lakers needed to sign somebody to avoid completely striking out in fa but I’m not sure this makes a lot of sense. You already have Russell and Clarkson as your backcourt of the future so Williams would basically be your instant offense guy off the bench. Only problem is that he is a ball-stopper and not a great defender or distributor and they already have Nick young in basically the same role. This sort of creates a logjam in the backcourt with players who do not necessarily compliment each other and a very thin frontcourt. This is gonna be an interesting season for the Lakers to say the least and Byron Scott is gonna have his work cut out for him.

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 I think that’s a poor fit like you said.  You have Clarkson and Russell along with Kobe.  Then you have Swaggy P on the roster as well.  It doesn’t make much sense to have so many scoring guards.  None of those guards are defensive players either.  So why add Lou Williams when he’ll take minutes away from Clarkson and Russell?  They should have spent that money adding younger players to try find another piece or two for the future.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 I think that’s a poor fit like you said.  You have Clarkson and Russell along with Kobe.  Then you have Swaggy P on the roster as well.  It doesn’t make much sense to have so many scoring guards.  None of those guards are defensive players either.  So why add Lou Williams when he’ll take minutes away from Clarkson and Russell?  They should have spent that money adding younger players to try find another piece or two for the future.  

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

This could mean the end of the "Swaggy P" Era in L.A. also known as Nicholas Young. 

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

This could mean the end of the "Swaggy P" Era in L.A. also known as Nicholas Young. 

[EndlessknightParticipant]

 Who would take that contract? 

[EndlessknightParticipant]

 Who would take that contract? 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 So know they have three combo gaurds all worthy of 26 mpg at least with Clarkson, Russell, and Williams they have Kobe and isnt Young still on contract. 

Seems like they have a trade in the works.

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 So know they have three combo gaurds all worthy of 26 mpg at least with Clarkson, Russell, and Williams they have Kobe and isnt Young still on contract. 

Seems like they have a trade in the works.

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Great value for instant offence though especially these days. How did Stuckey and Williams both only get 3-yes 21-mil.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Great value for instant offence though especially these days. How did Stuckey and Williams both only get 3-yes 21-mil.

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Woj reporting that Nick Young most likely to be moved with Lakers making cap room. Another report has Brandon Bass signing with Lakers.

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Woj reporting that Nick Young most likely to be moved with Lakers making cap room. Another report has Brandon Bass signing with Lakers.

[llperez]

 Don’t care for it. But welcome to the fam Lou 

[llperez]

 Don’t care for it. But welcome to the fam Lou 

[sheltwon3Participant]

 I like the move.  Lakers need some energy off the bench and also Lou can start some because of the height of Russell and Clarkson.  I always had a feeling Nick would get traded so if they keep not sure what they are doing with this move.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 I like the move.  Lakers need some energy off the bench and also Lou can start some because of the height of Russell and Clarkson.  I always had a feeling Nick would get traded so if they keep not sure what they are doing with this move.

[Rip255]

It’s a good deal if they get rid of Nick Young.

Lou Williams is definitely a better player than Nick Young.

Lakers still going to stink though. 

 

 

[Rip255]

It’s a good deal if they get rid of Nick Young.

Lou Williams is definitely a better player than Nick Young.

Lakers still going to stink though. 

 

 

[Sewok15Participant]

Lou can flat out score so it is never a bad thing to add him to your roster…that being said the Lakers are probably going to be the worst defensive team in the league.

[Sewok15Participant]

Lou can flat out score so it is never a bad thing to add him to your roster…that being said the Lakers are probably going to be the worst defensive team in the league.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 When you say they are going to stink what are you saying they record will be because they won 22 games last year with Kobe hurt for most of the year and Nick Young Hurt for about half of the  year.  They added Hibbert, a former all star, Lou Williams, 6 man of the year, Brandon Bass, a veteran energy guy, and Russell, 2nd pick in a historically deep draft, Randle, who at one point could have gone number one last year.  

 

 Also Kobe should be healthy.  A shoulder injury is not something that just lingers like if his knees or legs were messed up.

Adding up all these things plus Portland is worse, Clippers are so so, Dallas is so so, Phoenix is so so.  The East only has 5 legit teams.  The teams that got significantly better could already beat the Lakers.  Also a healthy Kobe give you  a chance to win any game especially if he has help.

I don’t see how Lakers don’t win 40 games which is still not enough to make the playoffs in the West but enough for an 8 seed in the East and I think they have enough talent that if they were in the East they could make the playoffs.

 

 

[sheltwon3Participant]

 When you say they are going to stink what are you saying they record will be because they won 22 games last year with Kobe hurt for most of the year and Nick Young Hurt for about half of the  year.  They added Hibbert, a former all star, Lou Williams, 6 man of the year, Brandon Bass, a veteran energy guy, and Russell, 2nd pick in a historically deep draft, Randle, who at one point could have gone number one last year.  

 

 Also Kobe should be healthy.  A shoulder injury is not something that just lingers like if his knees or legs were messed up.

Adding up all these things plus Portland is worse, Clippers are so so, Dallas is so so, Phoenix is so so.  The East only has 5 legit teams.  The teams that got significantly better could already beat the Lakers.  Also a healthy Kobe give you  a chance to win any game especially if he has help.

I don’t see how Lakers don’t win 40 games which is still not enough to make the playoffs in the West but enough for an 8 seed in the East and I think they have enough talent that if they were in the East they could make the playoffs.

 

 

[mgreener_34Participant]

 My question to you then would be, what makes this Laker team any different from the Wolves team last year? Both teams are extremely young with solid C list veterans, and aging all-stars. The only thing is, I actually think the Wolves are better defensively than this Lakers team, and have the better prospects. Expect another 50 loss season in LA this year, with or without Kobe. 

The Lakers last year were 24th in offense, and 29th in defense, and middle of the road in pace. They let up about 105 points a game while only scoring 98 per game. That’s 7 ppg differential that they need to close to start winning games, and I think their logic is a little screwy in this sense. I get their signings. Williams/Randle/Russle will help push the pace more, and give them more of an offensive mindset, and adding Bass/Hibbert as good defensive players will help with that almost league worst defense. 

But to me these pieces just don’t fit unless the Lakers plan on turning into the Memphis Grizz, and slowwww the pace down. I actually think this would be a good idea for the Lakers, as all of their guards Russle/Kobe/Clarkson/Williams can break their man down off the dribble, and their bigs in Hibbert/Bass/Randle can all create offense in the half court as well. It remains seen what style of play the Lakers will go with, but I still don’t have confidense in the Lakers this year, and that’s not me bashing them either! They are a rebuilding team, so people who think they will win 40+ games when 3 of their rotation players are rookies or second year players need to come back down to earth. 

Having a core of Clarkson/Russle/Randle is potent offensively going forward, and should be very fun to watch. Pitty I’m a Celtic fan, or I would def. add this team to my watch list.

[mgreener_34Participant]

 My question to you then would be, what makes this Laker team any different from the Wolves team last year? Both teams are extremely young with solid C list veterans, and aging all-stars. The only thing is, I actually think the Wolves are better defensively than this Lakers team, and have the better prospects. Expect another 50 loss season in LA this year, with or without Kobe. 

The Lakers last year were 24th in offense, and 29th in defense, and middle of the road in pace. They let up about 105 points a game while only scoring 98 per game. That’s 7 ppg differential that they need to close to start winning games, and I think their logic is a little screwy in this sense. I get their signings. Williams/Randle/Russle will help push the pace more, and give them more of an offensive mindset, and adding Bass/Hibbert as good defensive players will help with that almost league worst defense. 

But to me these pieces just don’t fit unless the Lakers plan on turning into the Memphis Grizz, and slowwww the pace down. I actually think this would be a good idea for the Lakers, as all of their guards Russle/Kobe/Clarkson/Williams can break their man down off the dribble, and their bigs in Hibbert/Bass/Randle can all create offense in the half court as well. It remains seen what style of play the Lakers will go with, but I still don’t have confidense in the Lakers this year, and that’s not me bashing them either! They are a rebuilding team, so people who think they will win 40+ games when 3 of their rotation players are rookies or second year players need to come back down to earth. 

Having a core of Clarkson/Russle/Randle is potent offensively going forward, and should be very fun to watch. Pitty I’m a Celtic fan, or I would def. add this team to my watch list.

[SinaParticipant]

 

With Russell, Clarkson, Randle are all young and unproven and health condition of Kobe and Randle is still doubtful, Lakers are hard to land superstars this summer. They are smart to add serviceable pieces at reasonable price. 

It seems they are trying to stock 7 footers at center in Hibbert, Black, Sacre and Upshaw. And they go small at other positions. Kobe, Russell, Clarkson and William are very dynamic hard to defense when any 3 of them are on the court, although they may not be good enough defensively. Randle and Bass both are strong players and can stretch the floor. Can’t wait to see how Scott run this team

 

[SinaParticipant]

 

With Russell, Clarkson, Randle are all young and unproven and health condition of Kobe and Randle is still doubtful, Lakers are hard to land superstars this summer. They are smart to add serviceable pieces at reasonable price. 

It seems they are trying to stock 7 footers at center in Hibbert, Black, Sacre and Upshaw. And they go small at other positions. Kobe, Russell, Clarkson and William are very dynamic hard to defense when any 3 of them are on the court, although they may not be good enough defensively. Randle and Bass both are strong players and can stretch the floor. Can’t wait to see how Scott run this team

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 ^^^

 I think the Lakers run more.  Or at least try to.  I agree Sina that they go with a 3 guard lineup of Kobe, Russell, and Clarkson.  Then you have Lou Williams who can sub in for any of those 3.

At center I thought DeAndre Jordan would have been the best option.  If he didn’t go there, then Koufos would have been a solid option.  Now, I think they should look at a guy who fits in and won’t slow them down. 

Why not go after David Lee?  I might rather have him than Roy Hibbert.  Lee can score and board.  Not a rim protector but he won’t slow them down either…

Do a high octane first team of Clarkson, Russell, Kobe, Randle, and David Lee.  Lou Williams is the 6th man then go out and try to get Javale McGee on the cheap.  If not, go after Jerome Jordan or another cheap, relatively young athletic, shot blocking 7 footer.

If I am the Warriors I would take Nick Young, Jeremy Lin (sign and trade), and Robert Sacre for David Lee.

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 ^^^

 I think the Lakers run more.  Or at least try to.  I agree Sina that they go with a 3 guard lineup of Kobe, Russell, and Clarkson.  Then you have Lou Williams who can sub in for any of those 3.

At center I thought DeAndre Jordan would have been the best option.  If he didn’t go there, then Koufos would have been a solid option.  Now, I think they should look at a guy who fits in and won’t slow them down. 

Why not go after David Lee?  I might rather have him than Roy Hibbert.  Lee can score and board.  Not a rim protector but he won’t slow them down either…

Do a high octane first team of Clarkson, Russell, Kobe, Randle, and David Lee.  Lou Williams is the 6th man then go out and try to get Javale McGee on the cheap.  If not, go after Jerome Jordan or another cheap, relatively young athletic, shot blocking 7 footer.

If I am the Warriors I would take Nick Young, Jeremy Lin (sign and trade), and Robert Sacre for David Lee.

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Lou Williams is a good value pick up, I would have thought a contender would have looked at him for that sort of money or someone used an MLE on him to give him a longer deal.

But I agree he isn’t the best fit for the Lakers at this particular stage, maybe they are looking ahead in the hope that Lou could be an ideal 6th man on a stronger team in the next couple of years.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Lou Williams is a good value pick up, I would have thought a contender would have looked at him for that sort of money or someone used an MLE on him to give him a longer deal.

But I agree he isn’t the best fit for the Lakers at this particular stage, maybe they are looking ahead in the hope that Lou could be an ideal 6th man on a stronger team in the next couple of years.

 

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