[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

 Every Team seems to have a positional log jam…Players are often burried in the Lineup by these Log Jams…

Lots of Teams have them like the Jazz in The Frontcourt…The Wolves at Pg and Pf(Rubio,Ridnour and Barea, Beasley,Love,Williams,Randolph and Tolliver at Pf)…And The Wizards have a ton of Sf/Pf with Lewis,Singleton,Vessely,Booker,Blatche and their potential draft Pick…

Give me some examples of Log Jams around the NBA…what moves could be made to fix them and what players are being hurt most by these unneccessary Log Jams…

P.S…Log Jams sounds like a Pooping problem, LOL…another reason they shouldn’t exist…

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Houston Rockets at forward

PF: Luis Scola, Jordan Hill, Patrick Patterson, Jeff Adrien,

SF: Chandler Parsons, Chase Budinger, Marcus Morris, Terrence Williams. 

Eight fkn forwards.  Really?

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

that would create another log jam at Sg with Martin-Lee-Budinger and Williams-also figure that Flynn can play some small SG and they are one of most overall Log Jamed teams in The NBA…they gotta make a trade, but not for Pau Gasol…

I was thinking a Martin for Derrick Williams type of deal with a 3rd team taking some of The Rockets other Forwards like Morris and Hill…I’d like to see Williams in another jersey soon… 

[CodySLCParticipant]

 Jazz at Pf/C- Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, Jeremy Evans

[sheltwon3Participant]

This just shows a lot of Gm’s don’t know what they want in their teams.  Every year the NBA gets new talent and if you are a smart Gm you can make moves to get you a solid player you need and a high draft pick for a player that is talented but will not get any minutes. 

 

Knicks will have a logjam at shooting guard when everyone get healthy and hopefully they trade Douglas instead of keeping him on the bench.  Douglas played well last season and could help a lot of teams and maybe he need a change of scenery

[sheltwon3Participant]

Lakers have like 4 small forward yet none of them really stand out.

Barnes, Metta, Kapono, Ebanks, Walton

Kapono and Metta can play 2 guard but their best  position is small forward.

 

Phoenix will have like 4 point guards when Aaron Brooks comes back.  They Nash, Price, Telfair and soon you can add Brooks.

[omphalosParticipant]

I think logjam should be reserved for teams which have multiple players of equal talent who can’t get the minutes, so the situation in Phoenix with the PGs doesn’t really apply, the depth chart would clearly start with Nash and Brooks.

Same with Minnesota to an extent, Beasley is a SF, so is Williams IMO, and Tolliver/Randolph aren’t so good that they deserve heaps of minutes at the PF spot.

Minny does have a logjam at the SF though, with Beasley, Williams, Wes Johnson all best suited to play there and all high draft picks, plus to an extent Martell Webster.

Logjams which involve multiple high draft picks are the most frustrating thing, take Evan Turner for example, he’s the number two pick and he isn’t starting in his second year because they already have a guy who does his job, I just don’t understand why they’d take him if they weren’t going to play him.

The "Best Player Available" strategy with top-5 draft picks only works if you actually give your pick minutes and trade away the incumbent starter.

I will say that Utah is actually in a pretty good situation as far as their bigs are concerned for the time being, you have two veterans in Jefferson and Milsap who start and a great tandem in Kanter and Favors for the future. That is a very solid four man rotation with a clear hierarchy and is especially useful given that Jefferson doesn’t have great stamina and this season is really wearing people down.

In two seasons, maybe less, Utah will have to make a decision on their future, but for now they have great depth and their young talent isn’t being asked to do too much too soon.

However, Utah does have a bit of a logjam at the SG/SF spot, with Burks, Miles, Hayward, Bell and Josh Howard all battling for minutes. In my opinion Burks and Hayward could split minutes with Miles and Howard except Raja Bell inexplicably starts, which throws the rotation out a bit, meaning every game at least one of the other four is missing out. I could see Utah trading Miles as Burks develops.

Denver is another team with something of a logjam, especially if Wilson Chandler comes back. Gallinari, Chandler and Harrington are all going to be fighting for SF minutes, meaning Jordan Hamilton is left in the cold.

Logjams really bug me, hate seeing prospects I like getting buried by bad drafting.

[WeavvvParticipant]

I sort of broke down the situation that Utah currently has/is dealing with. Omphalos said it pretty nicely, that the depth they have in the front court is only negative in the fact that Favors and Kanter aren’t getting the PT to grow, but they will soon enough. Sometimes playing behind somebody who is good at their craft is more beneficial than playing and falling on your face. Favors could definitely learn some things from Jefferson on the block, and Kanter can continue to be coached as well.

As I mentioned in another thread, Utah will be holding onto Jefferson’s expiring deal, next season, and his trade stock will grow exponentially simply because of that. A team looking for cap room would love to trade for him, or Utah could even decide to hold onto him through next season, and let him walk, freeing up cap room of their own. 

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