[Allen_Iverson_3Participant]

As stated in the article below, they are very far from reaching an agreement:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/06/08/stern.labor.ap/index.html

 

I think the question now is more "How long will it last?" and it might last very long.

[Jazz_ItalyParticipant]

 yesterday stern said that there’s no resolved question…no good news but there are still talking

i only know one thing: lockout is a bad situation for players, for NBA, for fans

 

[Toronto16Participant]

 Oh no, this is definitely not news I wanted to wake up to see

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I heard on NBATV that the owners are proposing a ten year deal where the players’ salaries will decrease by 40% in year three and then remain that way over the next seven years of the contract.

I can’t see the players going for that.

[apb540Participant]

The players are going to have to go for it.  They are very overpaid to begin with, and the product that they sell is losing money.   

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

The players have a trump card called Europe.  NBA players would make a lot of money there for a year or two and it would allow them to work on their fundamentals and relax on defense.  

The NBA has 5 to 10 superstars and about 50 or 60 other players who are good or very good.  Those are the guys that sell tickets.  The rest of the players don’t.  If the NBA loses lots of those guys then the whole league will be in trouble.  I think a lot of guys on the lower end will go to.  What you would have left are a bunch of marginal players who just want to start, get stats, and collect money. 

I read somewhere several months back that if the league had a lockout then Kobe would go to Europe to play. 

Maybe some guys join up to form a super team in Europe for a year. 

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

The Nba would lose players to the International leagues throughout the world, not really…why wasn’t there a mass exodus when Childress and Brandon Jennings went overseas…A: International teams couldn’t afford to sign The Stars of our League without making serious waves within their own ranks. B: International Owners are known for writing checks their banks won’t cash. C: What happens if you tear an ACL or break a leg over there ? Do you come back to the NBA 2 years later and act like the injury never happened…what about the other players left behind while the stars make their money overseas, they’d be bitter as hell toward the players that jump ship and go play internationally.

[AKOOParticipant]

It was always going to be a lockout. If your boss comes to you and see I need you to take a 40% paycut and you just take it, he will come to you and tell you to bend over and run a broom up your arse next. I can’t get anyone backing the owners on that mess. 40% paycut for you or I would be radical, quit thinking about them making more money than the average person and think about it if someone asked you to take a 40% paycut from your job. People can be so stupid when they are envious of others.

[apb540Participant]

A 40% paycut for say Andris Biedrins would take him from 9 million to 5.4 million…I am supposed to cry a river for these players?  Unlike the NFL, their product is NOT selling.  And do not compare a 40% paycut for NBA players to normal people because it simply is not the same.  Francisco Garcia would still be making 3.3 million, yet if I took a 40% cut I would go from $9.25/hour to $5.55/hour.  Just sayin’. 

[ghettosermonParticipant]

The NBA isn’t selling, teams are millions in debt, ticket sales are at an all time low, expecting there to be no change in player salaries is ridiculous. They definitely need to cut down on guaranteed money and length of contracts. Seeing bums like Eddy Curry and Luke Walton collect checks for 6+ million is disguisting. I say go to more of an NFL format in which contracts are incentive laden and have less guaranteed money. Looking at Gil when he got his 118 mil contract, what’s the point of him even trying anymore.

[apb540Participant]

Spot on Ghetto 

[WizardofOzParticipant]

"The NBA isn’t selling, teams are millions in debt, ticket sales are at an all time low, expecting there to be no change in player salaries is ridiculous. They definitely need to cut down on guaranteed money and length of contracts. Seeing bums like Eddy Curry and Luke Walton collect checks for 6+ million is disguisting. I say go to more of an NFL format in which contracts are incentive laden and have less guaranteed money. Looking at Gil when he got his 118 mil contract, what’s the point of him even trying anymore."

I though the NBA was selling. Aren’t ticket sales at an all-time high? The NBA has more fans than ever. But NBA teams are still losing a lot of money this year. I do agree that something has to be changed though.

[AKOOParticipant]

You dudes are very stupid to believe anything David Stern says. Who can provide proof that the NBA is not selling? Noone just a bunch of little ignorant kids so easy to have there little petty brains pimped by the Don himself David Stern. The NBA ratings was the highest ever this year. There are a lot of facts to back this up and this is just one.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/19/nba-playoffs-see-record-ratings/related/

 

Just like the NFL players union has said, Open the books. The NBA either will not open the books or the books will prove that they are flat out lying.

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