Let's play ceiling, floor, likely for rookie class

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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 5:06pm #61536

SkalAndJamal
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Karl Towns
ceiling: mix of David Robinson/Kevin Love
floor: Nazr Mohammed
likely: mix Al Horford/Joakim Noah
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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 6:22pm #1016148

Zouldiers
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Ceiling: Tim Duncan
Floor: Al Jefferson
Likely: Brook Lopez

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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 2:28pm #1016389
  
  rope
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  Are you saying with this you think Brook Lopez is better than Al Jefferson? You have to be kidding.
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 2:28pm #1016254
  
  rope
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  Are you saying with this you think Brook Lopez is better than Al Jefferson? You have to be kidding.
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- Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 2:59am #1016661
  
  rich.homie.mitch
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  You do realize Tim Ducan is one of the best defensive big men?
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- Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 2:59am #1016526
  
  rich.homie.mitch
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  You do realize Tim Ducan is one of the best defensive big men?
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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 6:22pm #1016283

Zouldiers
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Ceiling: Tim Duncan
Floor: Al Jefferson
Likely: Brook Lopez

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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 7:22pm #1016152

T Rex
Kelly Oubre
Ceiling Paul George
Basement Matt Barnes
Likely Paul George

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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 7:22pm #1016287

T Rex
Kelly Oubre
Ceiling Paul George
Basement Matt Barnes
Likely Paul George

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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 7:24pm #1016154

T Rex
Myles Turner
Ceiling Kevin Garnett
Basement Rik Smits
Likely Patrick Ewing

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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 3:02am #1016174
  
  Zouldiers
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  Ceiling: Lamarcus Aldridge
  Floor: Channing Frye
  Likely: Serge Ibaka
  
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  - Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 11:35pm #1016453
    
    Mopgrass
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    Maybe his ceiling ability-wise is Aldridge, but not stylistically. He might shoot as well as all 3 of those guys today. He might be one of the best 3 or 4 shooters in the whole draft. I’m not sold on all the other aspects of his game yet, but dude can shoot.
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  - Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 11:35pm #1016318
    
    Mopgrass
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    Maybe his ceiling ability-wise is Aldridge, but not stylistically. He might shoot as well as all 3 of those guys today. He might be one of the best 3 or 4 shooters in the whole draft. I’m not sold on all the other aspects of his game yet, but dude can shoot.
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 3:02am #1016309
  
  Zouldiers
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  Ceiling: Lamarcus Aldridge
  Floor: Channing Frye
  Likely: Serge Ibaka
  
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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 7:24pm #1016289

T Rex
Myles Turner
Ceiling Kevin Garnett
Basement Rik Smits
Likely Patrick Ewing

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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 7:27pm #1016156

T Rex
Porzingis
Ceiling Yao Ming
Basement Pau Gasol
Likely Yao Mingwitzki

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- Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 9:58pm #1016158
  
  frogman
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  hahaha this guy can come up with some quality comedy every so often
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 9:58pm #1016293
  
  frogman
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  hahaha this guy can come up with some quality comedy every so often
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 11:36pm #1016320
  
  Mopgrass
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  Depending where you go, the ceiling may literally need to be higher for Yao Ming.
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 11:36pm #1016455
  
  Mopgrass
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  Depending where you go, the ceiling may literally need to be higher for Yao Ming.
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Posted on: Fri, 10/02/2015 - 7:27pm #1016291

T Rex
Porzingis
Ceiling Yao Ming
Basement Pau Gasol
Likely Yao Mingwitzki

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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 4:06am #1016182

ZachAttack
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Trey Lyles
Ceiling: Dirk Nowitzki
Floor: Marcus Morris
Likely: Probably the Markieff/Marcus area
Not too high on him

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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 7:04am #1016343
  
  T Rex
  You should be. Just pay close attention to his +/- numbers and hockey assists at first.
  
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 7:04am #1016207
  
  T Rex
  You should be. Just pay close attention to his +/- numbers and hockey assists at first.
  
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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 4:06am #1016317

ZachAttack
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Trey Lyles
Ceiling: Dirk Nowitzki
Floor: Marcus Morris
Likely: Probably the Markieff/Marcus area
Not too high on him

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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 7:34am #1016351

drose24
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Trey can also develop into a prime Carlos Boozer type player if he works hard enough. The kids has a decent midrange jumper that was a big part of boozer’s game. Moreover he can score a couple buckets here and there in the paint. Dispite Trey good wingspan, he will likely stuggle to guard above average Pf scorers like Boozer.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 7:34am #1016216

drose24
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Trey can also develop into a prime Carlos Boozer type player if he works hard enough. The kids has a decent midrange jumper that was a big part of boozer’s game. Moreover he can score a couple buckets here and there in the paint. Dispite Trey good wingspan, he will likely stuggle to guard above average Pf scorers like Boozer.
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 2:29pm #1016391
  
  rope
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  He is also not a rookie, which the thread title asked for.
  (He should fit in about like you point out, though.)
  
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 2:29pm #1016256
  
  rope
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  He is also not a rookie, which the thread title asked for.
  (He should fit in about like you point out, though.)
  
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  - Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 8:04am #1016376
    
    ZachAttack
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    Trey Lyles is a rookie, the Jazz just picked him with the 12th pick…
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  - Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 8:04am #1016511
    
    ZachAttack
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    Trey Lyles is a rookie, the Jazz just picked him with the 12th pick…
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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 8:22am #1016357

Memphis Madness
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Karl Anthony Towns
Ceiling: Rasheed Wallace/Derrick Coleman
Floor: Armon Gilliam (don’t remember much about this guy. Just never won but had decent stats).
Baseline: Sam Perkins
D’Angelo Russell
Ceiling: Manu Ginobili
Floor: Brian Shaw
Baseline: Danny Ainge
Jahlil Okafor
Ceiling: Kevin McHale
Floor: Chris Gatling
Baseline: Elton Brand

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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 8:22am #1016222

Memphis Madness
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Karl Anthony Towns
Ceiling: Rasheed Wallace/Derrick Coleman
Floor: Armon Gilliam (don’t remember much about this guy. Just never won but had decent stats).
Baseline: Sam Perkins
D’Angelo Russell
Ceiling: Manu Ginobili
Floor: Brian Shaw
Baseline: Danny Ainge
Jahlil Okafor
Ceiling: Kevin McHale
Floor: Chris Gatling
Baseline: Elton Brand

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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 12:42pm #1016385

DolanCare
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Emmanuel Mudiay
Ceiling: John Wall
Floor: Brian Shaw
Likely: Derek Harper

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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 12:42pm #1016250

DolanCare
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Emmanuel Mudiay
Ceiling: John Wall
Floor: Brian Shaw
Likely: Derek Harper

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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 2:50pm #1016397

T Rex
Mudiay
Ceiling Tyreke Evans
Basement Andrew Harrison
Likely Evan Turner

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Posted on: Sat, 10/03/2015 - 2:50pm #1016262

T Rex
Mudiay
Ceiling Tyreke Evans
Basement Andrew Harrison
Likely Evan Turner

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Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 8:49am #1016384

PulseGlazer
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Can we relax with the ceilings of all time greats? It’s fun to imagine but sheez, KG? Duncan? These guys were always special talents.
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- Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 9:00am #1016386
  
  T Rex
  Myles Turner was the projected #1 pick until he chose the wrong college, with too much depth and the worst coach in D1.
  Porzingis isn’t from NYC or Chicago so espn has never heard of him.
  
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- Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 9:00am #1016521
  
  T Rex
  Myles Turner was the projected #1 pick until he chose the wrong college, with too much depth and the worst coach in D1.
  Porzingis isn’t from NYC or Chicago so espn has never heard of him.
  
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Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 8:49am #1016519

PulseGlazer
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Can we relax with the ceilings of all time greats? It’s fun to imagine but sheez, KG? Duncan? These guys were always special talents.
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Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 9:02am #1016388

T Rex
Dajuan Wagner and Telfair were "always" special talents in youth and high school.
Sometimes "always a special talent" just means "early bloomer from big city" and nothing more.
Porzingis comes from freaking Latvia.

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- Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 5:30pm #1016591
  
  PulseGlazer
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  Remind me of the big city Duncan came from.
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- Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 5:30pm #1016456
  
  PulseGlazer
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  Remind me of the big city Duncan came from.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 6:17pm #1016617
    
    T Rex
    The big city known as ACC BASKETBALL, as featured nightly at Eastern Standard Time. You know, the most valuable couple hours in television. You’re talking Prime Time television attraction, nationwide, but especially for the NYC metro area Sports writers.
    FOUR years of prime time. Full House and Home Improvement were only on TV once a week, less than Tim Duncan.
    
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  - Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 6:17pm #1016482
    
    T Rex
    The big city known as ACC BASKETBALL, as featured nightly at Eastern Standard Time. You know, the most valuable couple hours in television. You’re talking Prime Time television attraction, nationwide, but especially for the NYC metro area Sports writers.
    FOUR years of prime time. Full House and Home Improvement were only on TV once a week, less than Tim Duncan.
    
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    - Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 3:30pm #1016630
      
      PulseGlazer
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      Yeah, Wake Forest is on TV all the time. You got me <end sarcasm>
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      - Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 3:44pm #1016636
        
        T Rex
        They were on tv all the time when Duncan was there. Yes, I got you.
        
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        Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 3:46pm #1016638
        
        PulseGlazer
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        So he created hype because he was a can’t miss, incredible prospect? Yes, exactly. He was known as a special talent NOT because of where he played or where he was from.
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        Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 3:58pm #1016640
        
        T Rex
        If he had played at New Mexico or Oregon State it would have been a disadvantage, and he wouldn’t have been as "proven" as playing in the ACC against the best competition in college basketball, in front of millions of people watching his games on TV.
        
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        Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 3:58pm #1016776
        
        T Rex
        If he had played at New Mexico or Oregon State it would have been a disadvantage, and he wouldn’t have been as "proven" as playing in the ACC against the best competition in college basketball, in front of millions of people watching his games on TV.
        
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        Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 3:46pm #1016773
        
        PulseGlazer
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        So he created hype because he was a can’t miss, incredible prospect? Yes, exactly. He was known as a special talent NOT because of where he played or where he was from.
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      - Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 3:44pm #1016771
        
        T Rex
        They were on tv all the time when Duncan was there. Yes, I got you.
        
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    - Posted on: Mon, 10/05/2015 - 3:30pm #1016765
      
      PulseGlazer
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      Yeah, Wake Forest is on TV all the time. You got me <end sarcasm>
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Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 9:02am #1016523

T Rex
Dajuan Wagner and Telfair were "always" special talents in youth and high school.
Sometimes "always a special talent" just means "early bloomer from big city" and nothing more.
Porzingis comes from freaking Latvia.

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Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 1:37pm #1016430

YungmUNy
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I know this is a random one, but he’s probably the player I’m most familiar with in this incoming rookie class, so…
Branden Dawson:
Upper limit: Gerald Wallace
Lower limit: A poor man’s Tyrus Thomas
Likely outcome: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (This one’s not perfect… Dawson’s not your typical tweener. He can be a liability in the half-court at times. He never developed a shot, handles, and he never even really developed any back-to-the-basket moves. Simply, he’s probably going to struggle offensively in the NBA in any capacity other than transition play. I’m also not sure he’s particularly good enough at one thing, like rebounding or defense, to find a role as a niche player on a higher level of play, but I hope he proves me wrong.)

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Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 1:37pm #1016565

YungmUNy
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I know this is a random one, but he’s probably the player I’m most familiar with in this incoming rookie class, so…
Branden Dawson:
Upper limit: Gerald Wallace
Lower limit: A poor man’s Tyrus Thomas
Likely outcome: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (This one’s not perfect… Dawson’s not your typical tweener. He can be a liability in the half-court at times. He never developed a shot, handles, and he never even really developed any back-to-the-basket moves. Simply, he’s probably going to struggle offensively in the NBA in any capacity other than transition play. I’m also not sure he’s particularly good enough at one thing, like rebounding or defense, to find a role as a niche player on a higher level of play, but I hope he proves me wrong.)

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Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 7:44pm #1016631

Heroescantdie
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Mudiay
Ceiling: Bigger version of John Wall
Floor: Antonio Daniels
Likely: more point guard nad pass first tyreke evans

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Posted on: Sun, 10/04/2015 - 7:44pm #1016496

Heroescantdie
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Mudiay
Ceiling: Bigger version of John Wall
Floor: Antonio Daniels
Likely: more point guard nad pass first tyreke evans

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