[aamir543Participant]

Now I have never been one of those crazed Lebron fans, like the ones who live in Sacramento, but go around in a Lebron jersey, no I am not one of those jerks. Nor am I like those people that bash Lebron adn hate him to the guts. Only Cleveland fans have that privelage. But I do admire and appreciate the quality basketball we are allowed to enjoy because of him. However we have broken him. All of this mental, physical, emotional pressure has broken him, which is why I think these finals are done. For the last 11 months, he has been hated and disliked everywhere. He is no linger having fun out there. Even when he wins we bash him. That to me is ridiculous. Does he have to score 35, and get 8 and 8 every night? I acknowlege the fact that he took the easy path, and wanted his biggest conpetion on his side, but the hate has exceeded what I could ever imagine. I believe that the Mavs will most likely win tommorow, but if for any reason they dont, I expect Lebron to have a game for the ages. I have heard people bash him for not having the killer instinct, not wanting in enough. As far as killer instinct goes, I believed the same until the Boston and Chicago sieres. I am convinced he has thatt part, but the part about him not wanting it enough, that is absolutly absurd. He put his legacy, reputation, and life at risk to get an eventuall championship. Whether you wnat to admit it, the Heat will get a Championship, barring injury its almost garunteed(well, there is OKC, who could challenge them as the team of the decade), they are just too talented, but he put so much at risk for a ring. Criticism is justified, but just way too much. Even if he wins these next two games, we are going to he didn’t do it the right way. The only way he could rectify his wrong doings is if he goes back to Cleveland and wins it. (As long as Dan gilbert is alive, I highly doubt it)

Many people ahve also been saying he has tainted the NBA by messing with the balance of talent. Although that argument is justified, there is another problem. The circle of life in the NBA. The message to the Torontos and Sacramentos and Minesotas and Clevelands is that if you pick good players and make the right decisions, than your time to be a premier team will come. Well, Bosh and Lebron, and D will, as have broken that theory(Dwight will join that group, as well as potentially CP3). A few exceptions are the San Antonios, and Oklahoma Citys, but OKC’s management is from San Antonios management tree. So as it stands, there are only a couple teams that have the potential to never miss a beat as far as contending goes. LA has been in it since the early 70s, excluding short periods in the late 70s, mid 90s, and mid 2000s. New York just has had inexcusably bad mangement, and Boston has been good in every decade except decade except the 90s. I think the NBA is at its peak right now, but we need somthing to stop this from happening.    

[kanyedabestParticipant]

get off his D man

[Michael.S.Participant]

Good points.

[NYK2010Participant]

We didn’t break him, the Mavs defense, all those minutes and the pressure has.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

And the dude that admires Jay Quitler is going to talk trash about LeBron.. SMH.. Just sad..

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

He’s human and this much hate has never been seen towards a particular athlete.

As you stated, he is mentally, physically, emotionally, and even sprititually worn out by the very people that admired him just last year.

[fennisdemboParticipant]

the better teams win, not the better players.

lebron doesnt care what anybody thinks, take a look at his bank account.

guy gets a triple double in nba finals and people doubt him (what did you guys do in your life yesterday, any triple doubles in the nba finals out there?) i remember what he did to my pistons a few years back and i remember that impossible game winner he hit against the magic 2 years ago.

the problem in the court of public opinion is everyone wants to compare him to jordan. they are 2 completely different players. lebron is a pass first player, jordan was a shoot first player. polar opposites.

i get frustrated watching lebron from time to time as well, he’s not my guy, but there is nobody who can question a man who triple doubles in the finals.

 

[DanEboyParticipant]

He brought all of this upon himself. If he would of just shut his mouth and played, the media wouldn’t be getting on him like they are. Again, standing on stage declaring 6,7,8,9 rings is just setting yourself up for scrutiny.

We broke him? That was gold.

Pardon me if I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for the guy.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

We broke him? It’s no one else’s fault that the guy has chosen 1 tattooed on him, calls himself King James, started celebrating multiple championships before he had even played a game with his new team, belittle his teammates that stood by his side winning 60+ games. Lebron just proves that if you are going to talk that you better back it up and if you can’t then you have to be able to handle the backlash. In no way is the series over, but some of what he has gotten is deserving. If he could humble himself and stop worrying about presenting himself as the man, then people would cut him some slack. He’s going to have to stop being arrogant and feeling the need to diss people that at one time were his biggest supporters.

[BBall4life88Participant]

LeBron can either sit and pout about this and feel bad for himself or use it as and motivation, which is what every great athlete would do. 

Get his ass in the gym and practice some moves and improve his jumpshot…It’s not a huge mystery why Dirk and Ray Allen are the best shooters in basketball, or why Kobe has the best moves in basketball it’s because they practice their ass off. The more practice and repition LeBron does the more confident he’ll be, and he should be posting up and busting jumpers over Kidd and Terry all game long.

I agree that he’s had more critisism than any athlete and part of it has to do with the fact that he’s probably got more talent than every athlete so we expect so much out of him, but another part has to do with his EGO. The things he did with the decision and all of the comments following, tweets, and the Heat pre season celebration extraviganza made everybody realize how full of himself he is, and that’s also not very likeable. So I think he brought on some of the critisism himself.

 

[boxn1Participant]

I have never been a fan,I’ve always respected and admired his ability,but I have always questioned his skills on the offensive end,to be his size and not be comfortable with his back to the basket against anyone not named Ron Artest puzzles me. Everyone knows what he can do. Him not scoring when they need him to score is a failure. They didn’t need 35+ they needed what he had been giving them all post season. LBJ, just like his fans need to accept it,and own it. The series isn’t over,and Miami still has a chance,but not if LBJ thinks what he is doing or has done is enough. It’s how Miami is set up,they beat Boston and Chicago because their D and 2 1/2 of the 3 were good. Against a better offensive team and a good(not great) defensive team Miami needs all 3 to produce at a high level. This is what they all signed up for. If Miami does lose this series who should be viewed as the person who under performed. His team has played well for the most part this series,Miller, Haslem and Chalmers have been pretty good off the bench. Bosh has scored some points, and Wade has been the #1 option. This is what he left Cleveland for. No excuses accepted. And saying he is a pass first player insinuates he is passive,he isn’t,he just isn’t getting it done. Thats all. I know some think its deeper than that,but it isn’t.

[DanEboyParticipant]

Also, when you do stuff like this, 5 year old stuff, you just add fuel to the already raging fire. Keep mocking the guy who is beating your ass this series, or just act like a professional. This video is why no one takes anything he says seriously and why he comes of as so disingenuous.

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[NYK2010Participant]

Compare him to Jordan please thats a joke he couldn’t outplay Jason Terry even.

Don’t bring up other ppl, if he’s so great he can score some baskets on the Mavs.

The Mavs defense has been good but there not the 2004 Pistons.

Enough with the excuses, being scrutinized is part of life not just in the NBA.

17 turnovers for Lebron since Game 1 and his defense on Marion hasn’t been good either.

Lebron said himself the biggest game of his life and he failed again in the clutch both offensively and defensively.

Funny how Jason Terry said that Lebron can’t guard him for 7 games and he backed it up.

He’s got no excuse this year playing with Wade in a weak Conf. you can’t ask for a better teammate.

Don’t give me that nonsense that Kobe is better than Wade either have you watched the Finals.

Triple double yeah but stats don’t mean a thing without a win, at least play well with the game on the line.

Lebron made 1 play late in the game blocking Marion’s shot at the rim with about 50 secs left in the 4th qtr thats it.

[ChrischiParticipant]

I think people really underrate his 4th quarter performances. Of course he was too passive at times and then not smartly aggressive at other times, when he charged in but he made some great dishes. Just because one doesn’t score doesn’t mean that he is not doing clutch plays. Same with Dirk. When Dirk is making those weird passes which turn into a lot of ball movement on the perimeter and an open three he doesn’t get an assist but he deserves a lot of credit for that play. Lebron did similiar things.

Now Lebron is getting double teamed a lot and from guys with quick hands like Dirk, Marion and especially Kidd. People seem to totally overlook that. The Mavs forced Wade and Bosh to beat them alone, which he they have done at times. No player can go for 40 points if he gets double teamed for 60% of the game.

The real funny thing though is that people seem to have forgotten his conference finals performance. They’ll tell you: "yeah but he didnt show up when it REALLY mattered". So it didn’t matter in the conference finals? When Wade averaged 8 TOs a game and shot 35%? Fact is, Bulls were dumb enough to not double team him enough, just because Deng played some solid D on him in the regular season. And Lebron abused them for that mistake. The Mavs just made the right adjustment. Simple as that.

And I don’t think his defense on Marion was this bad, like people are saying. He played good D on him especially in the post, Marion just made buckets. And he shot Terry down for two 4th quarters. Terry just made adjustments and hit some crazy shots, although he also missed some open buckets. Adding to this I don’t think the Heat really wanted to take away Terrys J and he simply made adjustments by crossing up LBJ and hitting tough floaters over the short Heat bigman.

The main reason for Lebron being so passive is because he doesn’t get the ticky tack calls he usually gets.

[NYK2010Participant]

Wade averaged 4 turnovers a game against the Bulls and that was the 9 turnovers he had in Game 5 but he made up for it with a great finish to Game 5.  Wade was off in the Conf. Finals but he got to the free throw line 35 times while Lebron has been to the free throw line only 16 times in the Finals.  Wade only took 5  3pointers in the ECF while Lebron has taken 23 3 pointers in the Finals.  Lebron was hot in the playoffs taking 3’s but its not working for him anymore time to take the ball to the basket.  Also the Mavs are a much better team than the Bulls and it takes more to beat them, Miami won 3 games by 8,9 and 11 points it wasn’t that close of a series.  Lets face it  Chicago was a 1 man team on offense.  Gotta give credit to Lebron for shutting down Derrick Rose in the 4th quarter.

Lebron just hasn’t been aggressive enough in games thats why he hasn’t been to the free throw line, stop taking 3’s and drive to the rim.  I also blame Erik Spoelstra for playing him too many minutes.  Why isn’t James Jones getting any playing time he got a ton of mins in the first 2 rounds.  He might not be the answer but it wouldn’t hurt to get him in the game.

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