[BasketballGuru24Participant]

 Whats your thoughts on the league weighing in on potential game changing calls—after the game is all said and done ? Do you believe it is neccessary to say the refs made the wrong calls ? 

Over the past 24 hours the nba has issued statements on a couple games (raptors-pacers & spurs- thunder). 

– Demar Derozan should have been called for a foul in the final 15 secs 

– Bismack Biyombo should have been ejected 4th qtr of game 7

– Dion Waiters push on ginoboli on the that inbounds play 

– Serge Ibaka holding Aldrige on final possession 

At this point issuing these statements undermines the professionalism of the refs, and doesn’t help the teams at all. It just saves face for the nba. Is there a better method of approach in situations like this ? 

 

 

 

 

[LeroyJenkinsParticipant]

Why didn’t they have a word to say on Rudeboys mom grabbing Steven Adams with her grappling hook like amazon hands?

[LeroyJenkinsParticipant]

Why didn’t they have a word to say on Rudeboys mom grabbing Steven Adams with her grappling hook like amazon hands?

[SamO97Participant]

 To be fair though he knocked her down so she held on for balance

[SamO97Participant]

 To be fair though he knocked her down so she held on for balance

[LeroyJenkinsParticipant]

See now we know she’s lying.

It’s a known fact that Rudeboys mom is built like Optimus Prime in truck mode.

[LeroyJenkinsParticipant]

See now we know she’s lying.

It’s a known fact that Rudeboys mom is built like Optimus Prime in truck mode.

[SamO97Participant]

 Actually the league reviews ALL calls in the final two minutes of games where the margin is 5 or less, even in the regular season. The incorrect calls that you mentioned are just brought up in the media because of how controversial they are. You could see all of the NBA’s reviewed calls on their site.

[SamO97Participant]

 Actually the league reviews ALL calls in the final two minutes of games where the margin is 5 or less, even in the regular season. The incorrect calls that you mentioned are just brought up in the media because of how controversial they are. You could see all of the NBA’s reviewed calls on their site.

[SubZeroParticipant]

They officially said there were 5 missed calls on that play. Anyone who says that the Spurs got cheated are idiots because there were multiple missed calls on both sides. Ginobili stepped over the line before Waiters pushed him, Patty Mills was giving Steven Adams, and Kawhi had a handful of jersey on Russell the whole inbound. It went both ways

[SubZeroParticipant]

They officially said there were 5 missed calls on that play. Anyone who says that the Spurs got cheated are idiots because there were multiple missed calls on both sides. Ginobili stepped over the line before Waiters pushed him, Patty Mills was giving Steven Adams, and Kawhi had a handful of jersey on Russell the whole inbound. It went both ways

[dremill24Participant]

 The league will respond to the blatant missed calls at the end of games that everyone is being vocal about. However whenever they say the refs got it wrong they also point out multiple other plays from the same stretch that were "missed" so that they can’t definitively say that the one call everyone is up in arms about determined the game. It’s a cop-out. Trying to appease people with accountability for refs while also making them not accountable for the result.

[dremill24Participant]

 The league will respond to the blatant missed calls at the end of games that everyone is being vocal about. However whenever they say the refs got it wrong they also point out multiple other plays from the same stretch that were "missed" so that they can’t definitively say that the one call everyone is up in arms about determined the game. It’s a cop-out. Trying to appease people with accountability for refs while also making them not accountable for the result.

[Bankroll PJParticipant]

I’ve thought about this as well. I don’t like that the NBA releases these statements on officiating in the last minutes of games. 1) It makes the referees look bad. There’s human error in everything, so their officiating is a part of the game. 2) The outcome of the game is not going to change. Unless they go back and replay games from where a call was missed, I see no benefit in releasing these statements.  

To answer your question, "Is there a better method or aproach in situations like this?" I think the best approach is to just not release these statements or any of their comments.  I think they should keep these statements on what should have or should not have been called in-house. The referees know they make mistakes. I think the league is attempting to save some face, by owning up to the mistakes, but I just think there are enough benefits to justify releasing the statements. If anyone can enlighten me on the benefits, feel free to respond.

 

[Bankroll PJParticipant]

I’ve thought about this as well. I don’t like that the NBA releases these statements on officiating in the last minutes of games. 1) It makes the referees look bad. There’s human error in everything, so their officiating is a part of the game. 2) The outcome of the game is not going to change. Unless they go back and replay games from where a call was missed, I see no benefit in releasing these statements.  

To answer your question, "Is there a better method or aproach in situations like this?" I think the best approach is to just not release these statements or any of their comments.  I think they should keep these statements on what should have or should not have been called in-house. The referees know they make mistakes. I think the league is attempting to save some face, by owning up to the mistakes, but I just think there are enough benefits to justify releasing the statements. If anyone can enlighten me on the benefits, feel free to respond.

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 I am as big a LeBron "disliker" as it gets. I don’t consider myself a "hater" because haters seem to be unwilling to accept that he’s really good. I can’t stand him, but he made a really good point on why this whol "2-minute report" thing is bad. 

why is the last 2-minutes the only thing that the NBA issues on? Refs blow calls in the first 46 minutes of the game just as much as the last 2-minutes. this whole last two minute thing just feeds into the never ending societal need for something always happening at the very end. 

I don’t view it as the league "saving face" either. If anything, it makes them look incompetent. I get they want to be transparent because there are theories about favoritism and what not…but if you continually miss calls that affect games, how is that helping anything? Admitting mistakes only gets you so far. At some point, the mistakes need to start occurring less. That doesn’t seem to be happening. 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 I am as big a LeBron "disliker" as it gets. I don’t consider myself a "hater" because haters seem to be unwilling to accept that he’s really good. I can’t stand him, but he made a really good point on why this whol "2-minute report" thing is bad. 

why is the last 2-minutes the only thing that the NBA issues on? Refs blow calls in the first 46 minutes of the game just as much as the last 2-minutes. this whole last two minute thing just feeds into the never ending societal need for something always happening at the very end. 

I don’t view it as the league "saving face" either. If anything, it makes them look incompetent. I get they want to be transparent because there are theories about favoritism and what not…but if you continually miss calls that affect games, how is that helping anything? Admitting mistakes only gets you so far. At some point, the mistakes need to start occurring less. That doesn’t seem to be happening. 

 

 

 

[Bankroll PJParticipant]

 It’s only in the last 2 minutes, because blown calls earlier can eventually be made up by the players and don’t directly affect the outcome of the game.  Blown calls in the last 2 minutes of a game can significantly affect the outcome of the game. 

[Bankroll PJParticipant]

 It’s only in the last 2 minutes, because blown calls earlier can eventually be made up by the players and don’t directly affect the outcome of the game.  Blown calls in the last 2 minutes of a game can significantly affect the outcome of the game. 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Good point Bankroll, the last two minutes is obviously "crunch time" for a reason. I just don’t like that message that it sends though that all we should focus on are the last two minutes of every game. It’s that never-ending thirst for last-second shots when in fact a series of blown calls early in a game could have a huge impact too. 

Sure there is time to cover it up but it’s still incompetence by NBA officials. 

I also still think the whole thing actually makes the league look worse than they’d thought it would. 

When they use phrases like "it’s a teaching moment" in response to a ref not calling a foul when a guy goes over the line to push someone on an inbounds pass, there’s something clearly wrong. Why does a ref need that to be a "teaching moment"? How don’t they know there is a violation there? 

It’s not that refs miss calls, of course they do. I think most fans can live with that reality. It’s the fact that they seemingly miss the obvious ones yet at the same time go out of their way to protect certain individual players. 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Good point Bankroll, the last two minutes is obviously "crunch time" for a reason. I just don’t like that message that it sends though that all we should focus on are the last two minutes of every game. It’s that never-ending thirst for last-second shots when in fact a series of blown calls early in a game could have a huge impact too. 

Sure there is time to cover it up but it’s still incompetence by NBA officials. 

I also still think the whole thing actually makes the league look worse than they’d thought it would. 

When they use phrases like "it’s a teaching moment" in response to a ref not calling a foul when a guy goes over the line to push someone on an inbounds pass, there’s something clearly wrong. Why does a ref need that to be a "teaching moment"? How don’t they know there is a violation there? 

It’s not that refs miss calls, of course they do. I think most fans can live with that reality. It’s the fact that they seemingly miss the obvious ones yet at the same time go out of their way to protect certain individual players. 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 To be fair the way the sport is you could likely bring up a missed call on each 24 second shot clock. Its a very ticky-tacky sport and my advice to teams would be don’t leave it up to the judges. Win outright because its impossible for the refs to make every right call and decision.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 To be fair the way the sport is you could likely bring up a missed call on each 24 second shot clock. Its a very ticky-tacky sport and my advice to teams would be don’t leave it up to the judges. Win outright because its impossible for the refs to make every right call and decision.

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