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  • #53071
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    ItsRainingNegs
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    So right now Detroit is up by two. Paul George can’t do anything, Monroe has stagnated West’s strength, and Hibbert has just been ok. Meanwhile, as atrocious as Smith’s stats look, he’s stopping himself as Indy has no answer for him when he drives or posts up. Jennings is hitting shots.

    But man, Born Ready is getting whatever he wants whenever. His ball handling is great, he’s driving and dishing effectively, even hit a big time 3 under two minutes. Is he a future All-Star, and why or why not?

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  • #856898
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    SpartanGlory
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     No. He’s an above average energetic role player… Not sure how you think he’s a future all-star, especially when he’s on a team with possibly three people who deserve to be one over him.

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    • #856920
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      AmiableBaller34
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        I love Lance, and so does my fantasy team, so I find it a little harsh to call him "an above average energetic role player." Lance is a big part of the Pacer’s success, and is an even larger part of what makes them go. He’s one of only five players in the league averaging 10+ ppg, 5+ rpg, and 5+ apg; the other four being Batum, Carter-Williams, Westbrook, and LeBron James. He’s a harassing defender, hits threes, and finishes well around the basket. I don’t think he’s going to be a star player, but I think he could be a very good 3rd/4th option on a contending team. 

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      • #856930
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        SpartanGlory
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        I’m not saying he isn’t a good all around player. I’m saying he isn’t a future all star. And you can call him a "3rd/4th" option if you want, but in my book that’s still a role player, and he does possess an above average skill set.

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        • #856944
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          Ghost01
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          Its probably way too soon to look at a play who has gotten drastically better every year he has been in the league as some one who "cannot make an all star team", specifically when he plays in the Eastern conference. I’m not a huge Stephenson fan or anything, but he does a ton of things for the Pacers and has worked really hard to get better. Maybe he will only be a 3rd or 4th option his whole career, but every contender wishes they had him. 

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        • #857051
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          Its probably way too soon to look at a play who has gotten drastically better every year he has been in the league as some one who "cannot make an all star team", specifically when he plays in the Eastern conference. I’m not a huge Stephenson fan or anything, but he does a ton of things for the Pacers and has worked really hard to get better. Maybe he will only be a 3rd or 4th option his whole career, but every contender wishes they had him. 

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      • #857037
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        SpartanGlory
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        I’m not saying he isn’t a good all around player. I’m saying he isn’t a future all star. And you can call him a "3rd/4th" option if you want, but in my book that’s still a role player, and he does possess an above average skill set.

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    • #857027
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      AmiableBaller34
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        I love Lance, and so does my fantasy team, so I find it a little harsh to call him "an above average energetic role player." Lance is a big part of the Pacer’s success, and is an even larger part of what makes them go. He’s one of only five players in the league averaging 10+ ppg, 5+ rpg, and 5+ apg; the other four being Batum, Carter-Williams, Westbrook, and LeBron James. He’s a harassing defender, hits threes, and finishes well around the basket. I don’t think he’s going to be a star player, but I think he could be a very good 3rd/4th option on a contending team. 

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    • #856938
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      ItsRainingNegs
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      I posed All-Star as a question. He’s still young and developing, as everyone has seen with his offense this year. There’s no reason to think, with his ever improved shooting, ball handling, driving ability, willingness to pass, and defense, that he can’t. Of course Bradley Beal and Victor Olidapo will rule the East SG spots in the future but there’s no reason to say now that he won’t. 

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    • #857045
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      I posed All-Star as a question. He’s still young and developing, as everyone has seen with his offense this year. There’s no reason to think, with his ever improved shooting, ball handling, driving ability, willingness to pass, and defense, that he can’t. Of course Bradley Beal and Victor Olidapo will rule the East SG spots in the future but there’s no reason to say now that he won’t. 

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  • #857005
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    SpartanGlory
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     No. He’s an above average energetic role player… Not sure how you think he’s a future all-star, especially when he’s on a team with possibly three people who deserve to be one over him.

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  • #856904
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    Sharp Shooter
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    if Lance is killing Detroit, then Josh Smith lit up P.George downlow in the paint…and by the way the pistons won…

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  • #857011
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    Sharp Shooter
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    if Lance is killing Detroit, then Josh Smith lit up P.George downlow in the paint…and by the way the pistons won…

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  • #856906
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    Meditated States
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     He dropping 20 plus the teams gonna lose more frequently. He drops 20 plus tonight and they get a L. Has good solid skills but not a all star.

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    • #856964
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      Why? He shot 9-14 and shoots 47.5% on the season. Sure, it takes away a scoring opportunity from George or Hibbert, but when he’s on, he’s on.

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    • #857072
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      Why? He shot 9-14 and shoots 47.5% on the season. Sure, it takes away a scoring opportunity from George or Hibbert, but when he’s on, he’s on.

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  • #857013
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     He dropping 20 plus the teams gonna lose more frequently. He drops 20 plus tonight and they get a L. Has good solid skills but not a all star.

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  • #856908
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    bennydabull
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     josh smith shot more than jennings drummond and monroe combined and they beat the pacers in indiana lOL

     

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  • #857015
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     josh smith shot more than jennings drummond and monroe combined and they beat the pacers in indiana lOL

     

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  • #856940
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    ItsRainingNegs
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    Also the dearth of quality shooting guards plays a part in the All-Star question. Plus he was supposed to be a great SG with all of his skills so there is no audacity to the question. 

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  • #857047
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    ItsRainingNegs
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    Also the dearth of quality shooting guards plays a part in the All-Star question. Plus he was supposed to be a great SG with all of his skills so there is no audacity to the question. 

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  • #856956
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    His PER has never been even average, but he’s one of my favorites to watch just from his unpredictability. Zach Lowe wrote a nice column about him maybe a month ago too.

    Love the stat stuffing he provides but his shooting worries me, and while he’s good at finishing in the paint he’s not a good foul shooter. He has to fix that up if he wants to go from where he is right now (which is good enough for a nice raise this summer) to an all-star shooting guard.

     

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  • #857063
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    His PER has never been even average, but he’s one of my favorites to watch just from his unpredictability. Zach Lowe wrote a nice column about him maybe a month ago too.

    Love the stat stuffing he provides but his shooting worries me, and while he’s good at finishing in the paint he’s not a good foul shooter. He has to fix that up if he wants to go from where he is right now (which is good enough for a nice raise this summer) to an all-star shooting guard.

     

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  • #857151
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     why not? why can’t he develope into a 2nd scoring option plus a facilitator and defensive stopper ala joe dumars?

    he’s already avg. 13ppg/6.5rb/5ast/1st and if he developes a little more his mid-range jump shot he could easily improve his scoring to 17-18ppg.

    17-18ppg/6rb/5ast on the best or 2nd best team in the conference means…all star

     

     

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  • #857044
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     why not? why can’t he develope into a 2nd scoring option plus a facilitator and defensive stopper ala joe dumars?

    he’s already avg. 13ppg/6.5rb/5ast/1st and if he developes a little more his mid-range jump shot he could easily improve his scoring to 17-18ppg.

    17-18ppg/6rb/5ast on the best or 2nd best team in the conference means…all star

     

     

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  • #857159
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     I think the coaches will think about voting him in, If they have the number one overall record i could see Born Ready, Hibbert and George making it. But more likely PG and Hibbs

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  • #857052
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     I think the coaches will think about voting him in, If they have the number one overall record i could see Born Ready, Hibbert and George making it. But more likely PG and Hibbs

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