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- Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 1:22pm #54498
Skeating12345ParticipantDoes anyone else think Kyle Anderson is a little high on the mock? He has been moved up to the 5th pick in this years mock draft. Anderson obviously is a very unique prospect, considering he is 6’9 and playing point guard. He is a great rebounder, passer, and ball-handler.
With this being said, I cannot see teams passing on Vonleh, Exum, or Randle to pick Anderson. While I do think Anderson can be a very good player, he has some obvious deficiencies. While his shooting percentages are very good, and is very much improved from last year, he only seems to shoot 3s when he is wide open, on limited attempts. I dont think he is quite the shooter his 3p% would suggest he is. He is also VERY slow, and could be huge liability defensively in terms of guarding quick, explosive point guards.
I think Anderson is an interesting prospect, but I cannot see him being picked in the top 7 or 8. I think a more logical spot on the mock for Anderson would be 10-15.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 1:29pm #882319

HaleParticipantThe current mock (Big Board) seems very questionable to me. The comparisons are over the top. Kyle Anderson is not Magic Johnson and Marcus Smart is not Dwyane Wade. Marcus Smart has virtually no chance in hell of going top five yet he’s rated one spot below Wiggins. No doubt Anderson’s stock is going up but this last mock (BB) seems more like an effort at trying to be different than anything else.
0- Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 1:47pm #882433

WolfRobParticipantNo chance in hell of Smart going top 5!?!?
He has a very strong chance. Give Orlando the 5th pick and my money would be on them taking Smart.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 1:47pm #882325

WolfRobParticipantNo chance in hell of Smart going top 5!?!?
He has a very strong chance. Give Orlando the 5th pick and my money would be on them taking Smart.
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 1:29pm #882427

HaleParticipantThe current mock (Big Board) seems very questionable to me. The comparisons are over the top. Kyle Anderson is not Magic Johnson and Marcus Smart is not Dwyane Wade. Marcus Smart has virtually no chance in hell of going top five yet he’s rated one spot below Wiggins. No doubt Anderson’s stock is going up but this last mock (BB) seems more like an effort at trying to be different than anything else.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 1:58pm #882440

GrandmamaParticipantYeah, 5 is too high. But I definitely think he’ll go lottery. I’m guessing anywhere from 8-14.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 1:58pm #882331

GrandmamaParticipantYeah, 5 is too high. But I definitely think he’ll go lottery. I’m guessing anywhere from 8-14.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 2:26pm #882451

For_Never_EverParticipantI think Marcus Smarts is going to drop during draft day. No way is Kyle Anderson going that high either. These two shouldn’t be compared to Hall of Famers, they don’t come remotely close on potential.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 2:26pm #882343

For_Never_EverParticipantI think Marcus Smarts is going to drop during draft day. No way is Kyle Anderson going that high either. These two shouldn’t be compared to Hall of Famers, they don’t come remotely close on potential.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 3:22pm #882473
B-ball fanParticipantI think Anderson is getting picked top-5 isn’t ridiculous. Maybe he is not the shooter his percentages make him appear, although he still is a damn good shooter, but he is clearly a better shooter than Randle, Vonleh and Exum. And he will have a much easier time finding a position to defend than Randle.
I see no reason why Anderson can’t defend NBA SFs. He is a better defender than Jabari Parker, Doug McDermott, Rodney Hood and TJ Warren, and they don’t get knocked for being slow as much. Nobody complained when Dario Saric, a similar but significantly less athletic prospect, was projected to go in the lottery.
Anderson needs to get better at containing dribble penetration and needs to improve his focus on defense, but he has very good defensive instincts, with a steal rate that is substantially better than that of Andrew Wiggins and Jabari Parker (during both of his college seasons). And Anderson was 2nd in the NCAA in defensive rebounds this season. Anderson may not project as a great defender, but he is better on defense than most of the 1st round SF prospects in this season’s draft.
And Anderson really is a very complete offensive prospect. I think his poor freshman season hurt his stock too much and it has never really recovered. He is a very reliable shooter not just from downtown, but from mid-range and around the rim. Plus, he is an outstanding passer and ball-handler. Worst case scenario, Anderson is Evan Turner. But he should be a lot better than Turner, due to his superior skill level and size.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 3:22pm #882365
B-ball fanParticipantI think Anderson is getting picked top-5 isn’t ridiculous. Maybe he is not the shooter his percentages make him appear, although he still is a damn good shooter, but he is clearly a better shooter than Randle, Vonleh and Exum. And he will have a much easier time finding a position to defend than Randle.
I see no reason why Anderson can’t defend NBA SFs. He is a better defender than Jabari Parker, Doug McDermott, Rodney Hood and TJ Warren, and they don’t get knocked for being slow as much. Nobody complained when Dario Saric, a similar but significantly less athletic prospect, was projected to go in the lottery.
Anderson needs to get better at containing dribble penetration and needs to improve his focus on defense, but he has very good defensive instincts, with a steal rate that is substantially better than that of Andrew Wiggins and Jabari Parker (during both of his college seasons). And Anderson was 2nd in the NCAA in defensive rebounds this season. Anderson may not project as a great defender, but he is better on defense than most of the 1st round SF prospects in this season’s draft.
And Anderson really is a very complete offensive prospect. I think his poor freshman season hurt his stock too much and it has never really recovered. He is a very reliable shooter not just from downtown, but from mid-range and around the rim. Plus, he is an outstanding passer and ball-handler. Worst case scenario, Anderson is Evan Turner. But he should be a lot better than Turner, due to his superior skill level and size.
0- Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 9:36pm #882538

King CaluchaParticipantI think he’s arguably the best playmaker in this class, not a terrible shooter, great rebounder. However, I do believe his defensive deficiencies are being hidden at the moment… and it’s not because he’s slow. He just doesn’t rotate well on defense and he gets caught ball-watching a lot of times.
That being said, I don’t think this is going to reduce his stock significantly. He deserves top 10 consideration for this great season.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 9:36pm #882430

King CaluchaParticipantI think he’s arguably the best playmaker in this class, not a terrible shooter, great rebounder. However, I do believe his defensive deficiencies are being hidden at the moment… and it’s not because he’s slow. He just doesn’t rotate well on defense and he gets caught ball-watching a lot of times.
That being said, I don’t think this is going to reduce his stock significantly. He deserves top 10 consideration for this great season.
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 4:20pm #882495

DaGuywhodidurmaParticipantI don’t think there’s a chance Anderson goes top 5 at all either. Like gma said 8-14 is more likely. Kyle just seems like a 6’9 kendall Marshall to me. I hope I’m wrong but I think that’s who he will be.
Maybe he would be good next to a scoring point guard where he can be the main facilitator on offense. Sacramento would be a nice spot for him if they fall out to the 7 spot or lower in my opinion.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 4:20pm #882387

DaGuywhodidurmaParticipantI don’t think there’s a chance Anderson goes top 5 at all either. Like gma said 8-14 is more likely. Kyle just seems like a 6’9 kendall Marshall to me. I hope I’m wrong but I think that’s who he will be.
Maybe he would be good next to a scoring point guard where he can be the main facilitator on offense. Sacramento would be a nice spot for him if they fall out to the 7 spot or lower in my opinion.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 6:53pm #882534

OhCanada-ParticipantI think Slo-Mo in the Top 5 was more of a statement. Letting everybody know he is in the mix.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/25/2014 - 6:53pm #882426

OhCanada-ParticipantI think Slo-Mo in the Top 5 was more of a statement. Letting everybody know he is in the mix.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 1:35am #882445
jaysmith1987ParticipantI think people have a hard time seeing Anderson go in the top 5 due to lack of imagination. People are so stuck in what position they play instead of thinking about how good they can be in a somewhat positionless NBA. His percieved lack of athleticism is overstated most people think a guy is not athletic because they do not play out of control. For most Lance Stephenson is a very athletic player but in actuality the guy had about a 33in verticle which is substandard compared to his fellow NBA athletes but he plays at a frenetic pace. What people need to understand about Anderson is that just because he plays under control doesn’t mean he can’t guard his position. If he goes to the right team that allows him to play PG he could turn some heads. While he might not be quick enough to stay in front of all the PG’s in the NBA his length will go along way in making up for his mistakes. Think about being a 6ft pg and having a 6’9 guy guarding you then having to guard him at the other end. He has improved his stroke and has won at every level. Sometimes you got to go with the winner and match up problem over the athlete. The right coach will be able to use Anderson to cause a nightmare to other teams in the NBA a oversized pg that can pass rebound and a decent shooter. He get everyone involved and has a great basketball IQ. He might not go in the top 5 but if he goes to the right team and a coach with the right imagination he just might be in discussion for ROY.
0- Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 5:23am #882482
B-ball fanParticipantThis is a good comment. Prospects like Anderson sometimes get unfairly knocked because they don’t fit the prototype for any postition, but they still have the talent to be valuable NBA players.
Look at the NBA success of Draymond Green, Boris Diaw, Luke Walton, Hedo Turkoglu, Luol Deng, Kawhi Leonard, Joakim Noah, Jared Dudley, Tayshaun Prince, Shawn Marion, Jae Crowder, Andray Blatche, Al-Farouq Aminu and other players who defy positional boundaries. And Kyle Anderson may actually fit well defending SFs while being a secondary ball handler for his team (or even primary in his prime).
Anderson’s production and efficiency as a sophomore is very impressive and worthy of pushing him into top-5 consideration. He is actually a pretty complete and versatile offensive player who could fit on a lot of teams. At the worst, having a ball-mover who rebounds well and competently shoots and handles the ball would be an asset for a lot of NBA teams.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 5:23am #882589
B-ball fanParticipantThis is a good comment. Prospects like Anderson sometimes get unfairly knocked because they don’t fit the prototype for any postition, but they still have the talent to be valuable NBA players.
Look at the NBA success of Draymond Green, Boris Diaw, Luke Walton, Hedo Turkoglu, Luol Deng, Kawhi Leonard, Joakim Noah, Jared Dudley, Tayshaun Prince, Shawn Marion, Jae Crowder, Andray Blatche, Al-Farouq Aminu and other players who defy positional boundaries. And Kyle Anderson may actually fit well defending SFs while being a secondary ball handler for his team (or even primary in his prime).
Anderson’s production and efficiency as a sophomore is very impressive and worthy of pushing him into top-5 consideration. He is actually a pretty complete and versatile offensive player who could fit on a lot of teams. At the worst, having a ball-mover who rebounds well and competently shoots and handles the ball would be an asset for a lot of NBA teams.
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- Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 1:35am #882554
jaysmith1987ParticipantI think people have a hard time seeing Anderson go in the top 5 due to lack of imagination. People are so stuck in what position they play instead of thinking about how good they can be in a somewhat positionless NBA. His percieved lack of athleticism is overstated most people think a guy is not athletic because they do not play out of control. For most Lance Stephenson is a very athletic player but in actuality the guy had about a 33in verticle which is substandard compared to his fellow NBA athletes but he plays at a frenetic pace. What people need to understand about Anderson is that just because he plays under control doesn’t mean he can’t guard his position. If he goes to the right team that allows him to play PG he could turn some heads. While he might not be quick enough to stay in front of all the PG’s in the NBA his length will go along way in making up for his mistakes. Think about being a 6ft pg and having a 6’9 guy guarding you then having to guard him at the other end. He has improved his stroke and has won at every level. Sometimes you got to go with the winner and match up problem over the athlete. The right coach will be able to use Anderson to cause a nightmare to other teams in the NBA a oversized pg that can pass rebound and a decent shooter. He get everyone involved and has a great basketball IQ. He might not go in the top 5 but if he goes to the right team and a coach with the right imagination he just might be in discussion for ROY.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 1:47am #882452

Meditated StatesParticipantYou have the small guard grab the PG on d and problem solved. Its not rocket science. Anderson is impressive. I think he may look better dishing it to NBA highly skilled players.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 1:47am #882560

Meditated StatesParticipantYou have the small guard grab the PG on d and problem solved. Its not rocket science. Anderson is impressive. I think he may look better dishing it to NBA highly skilled players.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 4:56am #882474
Andrew1984ParticipantI absolutely love Kyle Anderson. He has both tangibles and intangibles. His court awareness, vision, anticipation, IQ are off the charts. He’s so savvy and comfortable in the game. He doesn’t rush, he plays at a smooth pace, he doesn’t try too hard to be flashy. He just has a great sense for not only where his teammates are, but also for where they’re going to be. I think the fact that “he only shoots perimeter shots when he’s wide open” is more of a compliment than a drawback; it takes some players three years in the NBA to understand shot selection.
Defensively, he rebounds, he helps his teammates, he’s long, and isn’t just tall and skinny; he’s got some meat on him.
I would take him at No. 5, no doubt about it. He can average close to a triple double at some point in his career. I would compare him to Reggie Theus but taller. I think he’s better than MCW. MCW looks for his shot more and can handle it but isn’t a naturally talented passer. Anderson looks to score less, can handle it, and is an exceptionally talented passer. On the NBA level, by his second or third year, he is going to quietly rack up stats in every category, his teammates will love him, and his team will win a lot of games.
If his workouts go well, he has a great chance to be selected before Marcus Smart and Dante Exum. He is the type of player a coach trusts and to whom coaches would be willing to hand “the keys to the car.” He’s been one of my favorite players in this draft for a couple months now and I had a feeling this rise was coming.
Also, I’m looking forward to seeing whether or not Scottie Wilbekin is able to guard him tomorrow night.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 4:56am #882581
Andrew1984ParticipantI absolutely love Kyle Anderson. He has both tangibles and intangibles. His court awareness, vision, anticipation, IQ are off the charts. He’s so savvy and comfortable in the game. He doesn’t rush, he plays at a smooth pace, he doesn’t try too hard to be flashy. He just has a great sense for not only where his teammates are, but also for where they’re going to be. I think the fact that “he only shoots perimeter shots when he’s wide open” is more of a compliment than a drawback; it takes some players three years in the NBA to understand shot selection.
Defensively, he rebounds, he helps his teammates, he’s long, and isn’t just tall and skinny; he’s got some meat on him.
I would take him at No. 5, no doubt about it. He can average close to a triple double at some point in his career. I would compare him to Reggie Theus but taller. I think he’s better than MCW. MCW looks for his shot more and can handle it but isn’t a naturally talented passer. Anderson looks to score less, can handle it, and is an exceptionally talented passer. On the NBA level, by his second or third year, he is going to quietly rack up stats in every category, his teammates will love him, and his team will win a lot of games.
If his workouts go well, he has a great chance to be selected before Marcus Smart and Dante Exum. He is the type of player a coach trusts and to whom coaches would be willing to hand “the keys to the car.” He’s been one of my favorite players in this draft for a couple months now and I had a feeling this rise was coming.
Also, I’m looking forward to seeing whether or not Scottie Wilbekin is able to guard him tomorrow night.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 11:01am #882541

Fun one partyParticipantYes the kid Kyle Anderson has big time skills all wrapped into 1.He moves in slow motion,but he makes all the neccessary plays needed to win and he does have some Magic Johnson type court vision since he is just as tall pretty much and he rebounds and can score points regularly.Scottie Pippen was a faster way better defender than Kyle Anderson is but Magic Johnson fits the bill IMO.Kyle Anderson won’t get passed the Lakers IMO,they see a local UCLA product that plays similar to Magic Johnson and they will jump all over that player Kyle Anderson.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 11:01am #882649

Fun one partyParticipantYes the kid Kyle Anderson has big time skills all wrapped into 1.He moves in slow motion,but he makes all the neccessary plays needed to win and he does have some Magic Johnson type court vision since he is just as tall pretty much and he rebounds and can score points regularly.Scottie Pippen was a faster way better defender than Kyle Anderson is but Magic Johnson fits the bill IMO.Kyle Anderson won’t get passed the Lakers IMO,they see a local UCLA product that plays similar to Magic Johnson and they will jump all over that player Kyle Anderson.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 4:02pm #882727
joecheck88ParticipantTo me he is a 6’9" Andre Miller. I really love his game. I wouldn’t be mad if Orlando grabbed him outside the top 3 over a guy like Marcus Smart. Oladipo can guard today’s PGs and there are a lot of guys on that team that could thrive with a guy like Anderson setting them up. There aren’t many elite SGs in the league either. He can be capable guarding the 1-3 spots and he may play some small ball 4.
And it’s probably different but I’m 5’8 and going around a quick dude my height isn’t bad. Going around a slower 6’3 guy is a nightmare. I think Slo Mo is so long that it would be tough for some guys and let’s not act like people actually guard these elite athletes at the 1 well. Westbrook and Beverly and I’m not sure who else does a great job after those 2.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/26/2014 - 4:02pm #882620
joecheck88ParticipantTo me he is a 6’9" Andre Miller. I really love his game. I wouldn’t be mad if Orlando grabbed him outside the top 3 over a guy like Marcus Smart. Oladipo can guard today’s PGs and there are a lot of guys on that team that could thrive with a guy like Anderson setting them up. There aren’t many elite SGs in the league either. He can be capable guarding the 1-3 spots and he may play some small ball 4.
And it’s probably different but I’m 5’8 and going around a quick dude my height isn’t bad. Going around a slower 6’3 guy is a nightmare. I think Slo Mo is so long that it would be tough for some guys and let’s not act like people actually guard these elite athletes at the 1 well. Westbrook and Beverly and I’m not sure who else does a great job after those 2.
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