[knicks4218Participant]

What do you guys think of this idea. Since, the Knicks have Jared Jeffries who can guard the point guard. What about Lebron james playing the point guard. Then on defense they could be doing the zone they are doing now that is working. I think Lebron James could average a triple double in this system. Also Lebron James would be a great help side shot blocker.The starting lineup would be:

Pg-Lebron James
Sg-Wilson Chandler
Sf- Danilo Gallinari
Pf-Jared Jeffries
C-David lee

Then I think the Knicks should buyout Eddy Curry because he is a locker room cancer, is always injured, and does not fit the system. We should not bring back Duhon or Hughes because they does not fit the system very well and hughes is a whiner. I think they should bring back David lee and Nate Robinson because they are the soul of the team and add raja bell and Marcus Camby through free agency for some veteran leadership and I don’t think they will be wanting big money. Also they should bring back Marcus Landry and Jonathan Bender who are good locker room guys. So the back ups would be:

Pg-Nate Robinson/Toney Douglas
Sg-Raja Bell
Sf-Jonathan Bender/Marcus Landry
Pf-Al Harrington
C-Marcus Camby/Jordan Hill

I think that could be scary with Lebron James playing Point guard I don’t think you could stop that. What do you guys think?

[arman]

lebron is basically playing point guard half of his minutes in cavs so it wouldnt be something new and knicks arent going to keep both lee and robinson

[quinceyhodges]

lol..guarding a pg sometimes is alot different then guarding them full time. and theres alot more to being a pg then just passing the ball. playing it full time is also a big change and chasing a pg all over the court takes its toll. this is a good topic for nba2k10 though

[MagikKnickParticipant]

oh god…what they said^

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

I know that Knicks fans are die hards but this is ridiculous. I know that not every Knicks fan is like this but the few that are really ruin that fan base for me. Is there enough money to keep everyone on this “team?” Even with that lineup, they wouldnt be that great. Still not as good as, I hate to say this, but the Lakers. They cant compete with their size. Another team that would be hard for them to compete with would be the Celtics. Size and defense win championships and as long as Mike D’Antoni is there, dont look for any banners to go up regardless of who is running the point.

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

Lebron can guard point guards, I dont think he can chase them around eg fullcourt press but he has defended PGs in the past against the Magic Mike Brown started him on Rafer Alston if I remember correctly

Lebron at the 1 would mean that smaller guards like Derrick ROse or Aaon Brooks would pick their poison
guarding Gallinari or Lebron James on the perimeter

Pg-Lebron James
Sg-Wilson Chandler
Sf- Danilo Gallinari
Pf-Jared Jeffries
C-David lee

albeit creative that team is super weak at rebounding vs Celtics/Lakers/Magic (no rebounds, no rings)

[NYK2010Participant]

Not as worried about the Celtics seems like this is their last real run, the team is getting older and who knows if Ray Allen will be back next year.

Not sure that lineup works with the cap Camby, Harrington, Nate all would have to take small contracts.

Knicks definately need a PG, whether its Felton or anyone else.
If they do get Lebron rather him play off the ball, you see how he did against the Lakers on X-mas he’s more dangerous without the ball. Running the court, alley oops, in the post creating match up problems rather see that than him having to run the team.

In D’antoni’s offense guys play different positions anyway, so Lebron could be at PF a lot and SG some.
BTW Raja Bell is basically done, rather try and bring back Hughes than sign him.

A diff. lineup

Starters
Raymond Felton
Lebron James
Danillo Galinari
David Lee
Jared Jeffries

Bench
Tony Douglas
Marcus Landry
Wilson Chandler
Jonathan Bender
Jordan Hill
Eddy Curry
2nd round pick, lle, minimum guys

Still its key to move Jeffries contract maybe package him with Nate or in a 3 team deal.
If they do that can sign a big 2nd tier free agent.
Plenty of teams over the cap in 2010 maybe 1 would take a chance on Jeffries.
Walsh needs to make some moves definately.

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

worry about Dwight Howard, Samuel Dalembert etc.
that frontline looks weak rebounding wise

its like Pat Riley said no rebounds no rings

nba games are won and lost in the paint NYK2010

[quinceyhodges]

lebron guarding pg all season is adifferent story then him guarding a point guard for a quarter

[the I in winParticipant]

i’ve always wondered how well lebron would play at the point, not pointforward actual point with other wings on the court. it’s an interesting idea but not going to ever happen.

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

how so? Jared Jeffries can guard the pick and roll better than Lebron?

[B-ball fanParticipant]

If they played primarily zone, the benefits would outway the costs. They do need a better pf, but LeBron at PG could work. Plus, they would have a great shot blocker from the perimeter. And opposing pgs would have to guard Chandler, a big mismatch.

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

the casual fan cannot see it happening until it actually happens

but it is possible

[quinceyhodges]

lol..no this isnt a video game this is real life so no its not gonna happen. can we keep things in reality please. that team would get punished by the good teams

[NYK2010Participant]

NBAPU thanks for the old Riley comment, they definately need another legit big man.
Camby would help but I doubt he comes to NY.
Walsh has to get another big man, right now it doesn’t look to good.

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

NYK2010

I have thought extensively about NYK’s prspects of winning a championship in the near future

two things could/should happen impo as far as Reboundingbig men go

Pittman via trade into first round (chances Idk)
work on his conditioning like clockwork he was in the 280 range last year according to his coach

Onuaku injuries are a concern but defensively he is elite college player

[B-ball fanParticipant]

The team wouldn’t be a championship contender, but it would still be a very good team. LeBron at PG would be its biggest strength.

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

Bron doesnt want to carry a team to playoffs every year and then get beat by Dwight Howard every year

better off building a defensive rebounding unit and then eventually draft or sign a shot maker

to break the thing wide open ala the Bobcats and Stephen Jackson

its called rebuilding/ playing the right way lol

if they can get good defenders athleticsm and rebounding

then 2011 free agency could push them over the top

F-C= Onuaku
PF= ??? Al Jefferson/ Kevin Love ???
SF= Anthony, Rudy Gay(the new Grizzlies)
SG= JR Smith/draft defensively of course
PG=?

[quinceyhodges]

id hate to see lebron have to guard chris paul dwill steve nash rose for awhole game. its alot different then guarding marvin williams,reshar lewis, and deng

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

id hate to see chris paul have to guard lebron for the first quarter then have to sit the whole first half
bcuz he switched out onto Gallinari and picked up 2 quick fouls

actually I’d love to see that

[quinceyhodges]

lebron is gonna score reguadless so there wont be muh difference there. the difference is how he will be working harder on defense then he usually does and will be taken away from the basket so he wont be able to do much offensive rebounding nor help d. theres alot more to getting moved to the pg then just puting pg next to there name. if it was such a great plan he would have been used at pg in cleveland. like 8th deadly sin said “I know that Knicks fans are die hards but this is ridiculous”.. how about we stick to more reality type maybes and ifs because that one is not gonna happen.

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

if it was such a great plan he would have been used at pg in cleveland

he guarded Rafer Alston last playoffs genius

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

The matchups against the Magic have been well documented. The Cavs’ biggest problem was they had nobody to guard Dwight Howard inside.

The matchups against the Magic have been well documented. The Cavs’ biggest problem was they had nobody to guard Dwight Howard inside.

”We tried to play him straight,” Brown said. ”We tried to double him on the pass and on the dribble, and from different areas. He just got into a nice rhythm.

”If we did not double him, he went right through us. If we did, he kicked the ball out to shooters.”

The difference between what happened with the Cavs and the Los Angeles Lakers in the Finals: Height. The Lakers simply were taller.

”They were shooting over us, a lot of times without feeling us,” Brown said. ”Our guys did a heck of a job. They were there just as well as the guys in the Lakers series. It’s a matter of length and size rotating to guys on the perimeter.”

Brown went on to defend his decision to have LeBron guard Rafer Alston instead of Hedo Turkoglu throughout the series, to have shorter guys like Delonte West guard Orlando’s taller shooters

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

NBA is all about matchups and drawing fouls

u are right about that putting the PG next to his name though

in the NBA there are no positions only mismatches and taking advantageof skill size and strength blah blah blah

http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavs/52267922.html

[quinceyhodges]

are you serious?..thats youre example?..for one its a wrong example because thats one series not awhole series genius.. just because you want lebron to play the point doesnt mean its gonna happen. he is a sf. he plays some sg and he handles the ball alot. thats how its been thats how its gonna be. deal with it. if he goes to the kniks he will be playing sf. maybe sg and possible a lil pf. you need to leave lala land and just deal with those facts and stop with all the make up wishes. so you can quote as many people as you want but the facts remain lebron isnt playing the point guard position. hasnt in the past isnt in the present and im pretty sure he wont be in the future no matter how hard you try to wish so it can fit youre fantasy

[McWinningParticipant]

i think Lebron would be decent at guarding point guards but your forgetting one thing. its unlikely David Lee whos having an All Star year would settle for 10 mil which is what they’ll have left if they sign Lebron and fill up a maximum roster. And of course no way they can sign Camby , Nate and Harrinton, they dont have the money if they dont get Lee for cheap and their bird rights are gone if they sign Lebron.

[quinceyhodges]

alot of people seem to think lee is gonna ask for less then he did last year so they will be able to keep him. but they are playing better this year and hes playing very well. on top of this being a big summer. this guy wis gonna ask for at the very very least the same amount of money that he asked for last year. and for those who think losing harrington isnt gonna be a big deal then ya’ll are really trippin. you dont lose a player who scores and works as hard as he does and think its gonna be like losing jordan hill

[knicks4218Participant]

Did you read that part where I said Jared Jeffries guards opposing point guards. Also Lebron James was compared to Magic Johnson before he was drafted so I do not think it is that hard to imagine him playing point guard and he is averaging 7 assist right now playing small forward. Remember when Dantoni had joe johnson playing the point in Phoenix when Nash went down. So this really isn’t too far fetched as you say it is and I think it would be pretty unstoppable with Gallos three point shooting, David lees pick and roll, Wilson chandlers rebounding, having the whole team play zone and having james on the low block on defense I think he is a more natural help side shot blocker. I think you guys are underestimating what a freak athlete Lebron James is and also think that New York is a better team right now then the Cavaliers minus Lebron. You guys have to admit the game is changing, teams are starting to draft quickness over size and I think soon as one speedball team wins the title everyone will try to copy them they have to just get over that hump, I think Dantoni would have done that one year but amare got hurt. This could really work and would be fun to watch too. Also have your guys heard of bird rights when talking about lee, robinson, etc?

[quinceyhodges]

only fans are thinking about that happening though knicks. not the teams nor the players. and jefferies is not gonna be effective guarding pg’s for 82 games. im not saying lebron cant do this but it wont happen. wade can play the point as well as kobe can play it but the fact of the matter is that they wont. this seems like common sense but i can kinda understand that youre a fan and sometimes as a fan common sense and logic doesnt play a big part in the thinking process. on top of all that lebron james wants to win. that team right there is no factor what so ever to get a title. and being compared to magic doesnt mean he can be magic. sorry to tell ya’ll but unless they get a pg duhon will be the point guard on that team next year. you may not liek it but thats how its gonna be unless toney douglas turns into a different player next year

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

QH: “for one its a wrong example because thats one series not a whole series genius.”

me: what?! i dont understand

QH: just because you want lebron to (defend) the point doesnt mean its gonna happen.
he is a sf. he (defend) some sg and he handles the ball a lot. thats how its been thats how its gonna be. deal with it.

me: HYPOTHETICALLY if he went to the Knicks that lineup would be a weak rebounding run and gun unit. ’nuff said

QH: if he goes to the kniks he will be playing sf. maybe sg and possible a lil pf.

me: he won’t go to the Knicks
this thread is for knicks fans that want to SPECULATE about what the best Lebron squad would look like

u obviously have nothing to contribute so why dont you leave the forum and/or ignore it. You dont have to post here!

QH: the facts remain lebron isnt playing the point guard position.

me: Is Dahntay Jones a point guard? yet he guarded Chris Paul
and Lebron guarded Rafer thats a fact

like it or not it happened

if u cant grasp the conceptual differences of exploiting mismatches

or the difference between playing and defending

dont get mad at me and start spewing nonsense

[quinceyhodges]

that was too long to even try to read so imma move on. i wonder who the knicks will go after to replace lee if he doesnt resign?. what other good second or third level big man is out there this summer?

[Disrespect_MeParticipant]

“that was too long to even try to read so imma move on.”

how very mature of you lol

u r quite the stubborn mule of a character hodges I’ll give you that

[Soulrebel15Participant]

First of all, the Knicks need too tell Jeffries to beat his feet, and hope they find a come up. I’m tired of seeing this guy blowing wide… wide open layups. He’s a bench guy at best, come off the bench give some energy grab some boards, charges, and blocks. Go back to the bench drink some Gatorade, end of story. You can’t be serious? You’re depending on this guy to guard the opposing PG! I’ve seen enough of that, thanks but no thanks.

Lebron needs to say at SF, he’s a great player but to me his game as well as the teams game suffers when he predominantly pays PG, the team tends to watch rather than react. Like QH said if that idea was so great Cavs would have stuck to that plan and their would have been no reason to bring in Mo Williams. I understand defense and rebounding wins chips, however, the same thing goes for a floor general.

[Soulrebel15Participant]

First of all, the Knicks need too tell Jeffries to beat his feet, and hope they find a come up. I’m tired of seeing this guy blowing wide… wide open layups. He’s a bench guy at best, come off the bench give some energy grab some boards, charges, and blocks. Go back to the bench drink some Gatorade, end of story. You can’t be serious? You’re depending on this guy to guard the opposing PG! I’ve seen enough of that, thanks but no thanks.

Lebron needs to say at SF, he’s a great player but to me his game as well as the teams game suffers when he predominantly pays PG, the team tends to watch rather than react. Like QH said if that idea was so great Cavs would have stuck to that plan and their would have been no reason to bring in Mo Williams. I understand defense and rebounding wins chips, however, the same thing goes for a floor general.

[knicksfreakParticipant]

Pg-Lebron James-7
Sg-Wilson Chandler-5.5
Sf- Danilo Gallinari-5
Pf-Jared Jeffries-4
C-David lee-11 rebounds

How is that a poor rebounding lineup? Lee is one of the top rebounders in the league and the shortest player is Chandler at 6’8″. Everyone in the lineup has the potential to average at least 6 boards per game. Jeffries is only averaging 4 but can/should grab more.

Anyways it’s very unlikely that we sign Lebron and almost impossible that D’Antoni starts him at the point.

[quinceyhodges]

not sure if you are looking at it the right waysomeones rebounds go down with lebron there. are those the knicks players rebounding numbers without lebron there?..if so then yeah that would be a pretty bad rebounding team. being the tallest doesnt always mean being the best or real good rebounding team

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