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- Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 7:33am #38389
draft2017Participant - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 7:56am #660464

sheltwon3ParticipantIf Austin measures out to a least 6’4" with shoes, he will surprise a lot of people. If he continue to work on him game like he does, he could be mentioned with the Wades Kobes and any other top shooting guard. Players know what to look for in players and I think this is a big endorsement of Austin. I wonder why MJ can not draft talent. He had to have known that Kwame, and Adam Morrison did not have the right stuff. If all MJ did was draft players with a killer instinct that neither Kwme or Morrison ever had, he would have done great.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 8:07am #660474

TRC1991ParticipantKG made a bold claim saying he could go down as one of the greatest to play the game….
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 8:27am #660498

Meditated StatesParticipantOn this site. People gonna see to. MKG over Rivers people. You gonna see.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 8:34am #660501

UNCbasketballbumParticipantOk, people need to cool it with Austin Rivers. Seriously, to even say that he could be like Wade or Kobe is utterly insane. Rivers isn’t in the same galaxy athletically as either Kobe or Wade in his prime. He is a poor free throw shooter and his jumper is only average. He averages more turnovers than assists. To say Austin Rivers could be one of the greatest to ever play the game is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 8:35am #660502

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantHe’s just Jamal Crawford.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 8:38am #660505

akhan786ParticipantYou really think he’s going to say something bad about his coach’s son? lol
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 9:11am #660538

mookieParticipantgimmie Lamb over Austin allll day!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 9:37am #660557
thatdude44ParticipantAustnRivers is refrehing. He has eerh it takes to become a great player, vr much lie kobe, wade ect…his work ethic sets him apart which means he can only get better.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 9:41am #660556

DipoTimeParticipanthaha coming from the guy with KG as their picture..
but seriously though I agree with you.
akhan786 makes a good point though lol
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 9:59am #660570

PabloFiascoParticipantI’ll take Austin over Lamb. Go down as one of the greatest is an overstatement. Who knows Austin could be that determined that in a few years he’ll be a 20ppg 4asst 4rb type of player
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 10:10am #660577
Pointman21ParticipantRivers as similar to Jamal Crawford, maybe. I think of more of Monta Ellis game wise. But not the athlete speed wise as Ellis. He’s a put-head-down-and-go kind of guy. The thought is he’s going to play up to the talent level and his game is more of an NBA game than the Duke system.
Lamb, you know who that guy is positionally, much more of a classic shooter shooting guard. River may want IT more, wants to be a star. Lamb strikes me more as one of the guys. Like he’s not sure he can be a star, or wants to be. But it’s early. For some reason I could see Lamb fitting in next to a Irving in CLE. Rivers is going to need his hands on the ball more.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 10:15am #660581
Future_Scout Mockdraftone of the greatest ever???? LOL
i don’t think you can say that about any prospect, much less rivers. a combo forward who if doesn’t find a niche might ended up being 6th man. doesn’t play great defense.
…i’m a fan of his confidence and upside, but damn
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 10:42am #660605

Meditated StatesParticipantLamb has an NBA game and is taller and longer. I question your evaluating skills if you think he is Crawford. He attacks the rim literally ten times more than Crawford. Ten times more.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 11:15am #660626

Meditated StatesParticipantLamb in workouts I could change that tune though.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 11:33am #660635

UNCbasketballbumParticipantI might have to take KG’s picture off my profile after he said some stupid stuff like that. Loveyou big ticket, but damn, slow your roll.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 1:13pm #660675
Pointman21ParticipantI think some of these comparisons have as much to do with what people project as a players weaknesses as anything. I didn’t start the Crawford comparison and I gave it only a maybe. And you’re probably right, it’s not a comparison. What’s funny is what Crawford was projected as when he was coming into the NBA. A SG/PG, in a time when the future was suppose to be big guards that could shoot, handle and pass and thought to play in the triangle. A decade in, you, me, or a guy at the Y could find more assist in an NBA game than Jamal. When he was raw, he had no idea what to do with it. Mentally, as a young young kid, that personallity I could see a little similarity as a clean slate. But skills, game type and even size they are very different. Jamal is a 20 points in 20 minutes kind of catch fire scorer or could go 2-20 and barely do anything. And not someone you want to be your main 40 minute starter and lead scorer but he can make a difference. Who’s to say Lamb doesn’t end up the same. I think he’ll be more of a solid top 10 starter. But who’s to say.
Lamb is rare in a way, a off ball slasher that’s a shooter. Kind of like some of the light weight guard/forwards you see. Kind of the Nic Batum type. A good slasher athlete that normally if they make the corner 3 to stretch things out, you’re happy. Lamb has more of a jumper 23ft in to 18ft. You see Reggie Miller, Ric Hamilton comparisons for him. But any comparison by it’s nature is kind of lazy. Most of that’s about his build. I agree he can get to the rim alot better than any of those Miller, Rip or Crawford types, right now. There was a day when those Rip or Ray Allen types could do more of that too. Doesn’t mean that’s where you end up. A little more old school-ish but he also kind of reminds me of a guy that didn’t workout because of injury I believe, Kerry Kittles. Didn’t have quite Lamb height or defense. Lamb has some Pippen in his defense potential, just needs about 20+ pounds of muscle. But that 20+ isn’t a for sure thing. And I only use that name as the example of that lengthy athletic defender. There maybe a better lesser example.
Most of the Rivers or Lamb talk and difference comes down to if the ball is in who’s hands. Rivers in on the ball, Lamb is more off of it. Rivers isn’t a creator right now of much more than his own shot. Lamb opinion is probably more shaded by how UConn’s season went this year. And any talk of what Kemba did previous and it being Lamb’s turn isn’t fair. But that’s life.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 2:34pm #660724

sheltwon3ParticipantYou guys are acting like Rivers can not get any better and KG pretty much tells it like it is. There are many things that I don’t like about KG but he tend to speak his mind. I guess yall forget the crack where he said Doc had like 50 kids.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 2:35pm #660725

sheltwon3ParticipantThere have been players that were better shooters and more athletic than MJ but still he is called the greatest because of his work ethic and his desire to win. If Austin has this trait, he has a shot to overcome his weaknesses.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2012 - 5:05pm #660807
estebansfParticipantI think people are gonna be surprised when Austin gets to the NBA because he didn’t show how truly great he is as an offensive player in their system. I’m a huge Duke fan, but in my opinion, he would have done a lot better at a Kentucky or UNC because of the way that their offenses are built.
At Kentucky, in the dribble-drive, he would have had lanes to attack and, since they also run the fast-break well, he would have gotten up and down the floor, which is really where he thrives. The same thing if he went to UNC, where they would get up and down the court and he would have exploded.
At Duke, with Tyler Thornton at the point, they played in an offensive style that resembled a snail. I watched almost every game the whole year and they maybe had 2 transition possesions total a game. Also, since no one had the ability to create their own shot besides Austin, it usually came down to him having to go 1- vs. 5 with 10 seconds left on the shot clock. The odds of scoring in that scenerio aren’t good and if you watched their games this year, you would see that Austin’s numbers don’t really reflect his ability. He was forced to put up bad shots at times because no one on Duke this year could really help him, especially against good defenses. We all have seen what happens to Curry, Dawkins, and MP2 when playing tough opponents.
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