[festar35Participant]

Summer League Day 3

– Wizards vs Spurs: Troy Brown is really good, it’s a shame he can’t shoot at all. Still nice potential as a do it all bench player, but not sure of his role in Washington, they will have a big gaurd/wing bench line-up.
– Blazers vs Hawks: John Collins is really fun to watch, he plays a lot like Kenneth Faried, only difference is that he is learning to shoot – should be a solid starting PF for a long time. Trae Young looks a little lost and that will the the story all season long, he would be fine on a team with stars already on it. He reminds me of DJ Augustin and you don’t take him as a top 5 pick. I think we see SGA as the best PG from this draft class, I still think he is a great passer so if he embraces that looks for his shot 2nd (like his favourite player Steve Nash) he could still be near that value with the pick.
– Jazz vs Knicks: Kevin Knox = Paul George it reminds me of Summer League 2010. Robinson looks like a DeAndre Jordan level steal.
– Grizz vs Magic: Jaren Jackson is going to be a problem to score on, he can switch out and protect the paint, today however he came against 2 guys who look like they can do it better than him in Bamba and Isaac.
Bamba is nice and is shot looks clean, he looks every bit the lottery pick he was. What really excites me about Orlando’s future is the Greek Freak……I mean Jonathan Isaac – dude has a fantastic mid-range game, can get steals/blocks, guard 1-5 with his length and mobility. I see 2 issues:
#1: When he shoots the 3-ball you can see his shot change a little bit, he pushes it a little harder, it isn’t natural for him.
#2: I don’t know how he fits with Aaron Gordon – it reminds me so much of Milwaukee’s current situation with Parker and Antetokoumpo. If Gordon ups his 3-pt shot to closer to 40% and settles into a catch-shoot role it could be ok, but I’d rather see a legit stretch-4 or 3-D wing next to Isaac.
Briscoe looks like he could be an NBA PG.
– Bulls vs Lakers: Wendall Carter is so nice, the Al Horford comparison is looking like such a good one, he can do everything well and plays with such a level head. Defensively he is a beast.
Svi is an underrated athlete and man can he shoot the ball, he looks very comfortable out there. Wagner looks like a guy who will be nice on the catch-shoot, rafty kind of scorer- think Kelly Olynyk.

Sidenote: I really want to see Mavs and Real Madrid sort out the buy out so he can get some time. Smith Jr will never be an efficient scorer, but with Doncic next to him it’ll be just fine.

[cohenbc1Participant]

 Any thoughts on Derrick White of the Spurs? I know he’s had a few big scoring games in summer league, but does he look like an NBA player?

[festar35Participant]

Definitely looks like an NBA player to me, I think he will be the 3rd guard in the rotation behind Murray & Walker. 

The best shooter out of the 3 as well & while Walker develops I think he could be the starting 2-guard this coming season.

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Agree on all. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Also, Trevon Blueitt is such a perfect fit for the Pelicans its not even funny. Has been lighting up the summer league so far. If Gentry refuses to give the guy and Frank Jackson minutes in the season I’m done with him. He’s been looking like Aldeman 2.0 lately by no developing young players.

[cominup7Participant]

 I’ve been talking up Wendell Carter for a while on here, but he looks good as advertised and then some. Forget Al Horford, this is young Tim Duncan.

[marcusfizer21Participant]

 Tim Duncan is a bit of a reach though. He’s a modern day Horace Grant with a jumpshot. His timing in blocking shots are unreal! He’s smart, he never forces things and just simply provide whatever the Bulls need at a certain situation. 

[cominup7Participant]

Horace Grant? Thats even worse than the Al Horford comparison smh

If you think he’ll be closer to a 10-10 player than 20-10 thats your opinion but its pretty clear to see that he has TONS of untapped potential…you’re comparing him to a good, but unspectacular role player 

 

[kobyzParticipant]

 Is Rasheed Wallace clone…

[The GoatParticipant]

 The Gordon- Isaac frontcourt is not going to work for mine.  I like both players and Iunderstand Orlando wanted to keep Gordon instead of losing him for nothing but Isaac and Bamba together will be terrifying in a year or two. I can’t see why you would try and turn Gordon into a 3. He’s naturally a 4, has speed, springs and a good jumper for a 4 man, everything points to him being successful there and not as a wing. I think they could get a couple of really good players or assets for Gordon in a trade.e.g Phoenix has some good wings to go after. Utah would be a good fit. Portland for CJ. Boston has the assets. To Charlotte for Kemba 

[BeardedDragon84Participant]

Gordon will earn base salaries of $21,590,909 this upcoming season, $19,863,636 in 2019-20, $18,136,364 in 2020-21 and $16,409,091 in 2021-22.

 

Isaac may be able to handle playing as a wing this season beside AG, they would be 2 of the best switching forwards, although might have a little trouble against teams playing 2 quick shooting guards, but I think they handle it. If Isaac looks like he needs to play the 4 Gordon’s contract just looks better and better for trades. We aren’t trading him now for an expiring Kemba, two years from now if hes bringing back a boatload of assets maybe he goes, but until then this experiment will be intriguing to watch.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Im very excited to se Orlando’s bigs Isaac and Bamba develop. I think they have the potential to change the way the game is played. They have 2 bigs that can switch 1-5 and space the floor. Orlando needs to draft the best PG in next years draft whether that turns out to be.

  Theres alot of underrated gaurds in next years class noones really talking about Im sure someone will emerge as a top 5 pick candidate. Langford, Grimes, Hands, Bowman, Wigginton, Garland, Tre Jones and the Kentucky gaurds are all well documented guys but some sleepers are Andrew Nembhard, Devon Dotson, Javonte Smart, Elijah Weaver and Coby White. I think its gonna be a gaurd heavy draft.

[BeardedDragon84Participant]

 Looks much more like a wing oriented draft so far. Stands to reason some point guard makes it up to a top pick, only drafts without a PG taken in the top 10 are 2001 and ’92 I believe. But if there isn’t one guy above the rest at this point, it might be another outlier draft like those. Orlando could look for a two way wing or trade back rather than reach for a point guard in this draft.

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 Please do not compare Wendell to Tim Duncan.

[cominup7Participant]

 Everyone here compares Ayton to David Robinson and Pat Ewing…the Carter-Duncan comp is much more realistic. Mainly because Carter actually plays D and is unselfish almost to a fault. 

BTW 19yr old Duncan was not the polished player that came into the league. Give it time

 

[celtics1982Participant]

 Duncan at 19 was a stud, turning down being the number one pick to go back to College. Yea he plays D, but Duncan was a stud. I like him, but there are reasons he went 7th overall and not 1st.

[cominup7Participant]

 Context is everything when making comparisons and looking at stats…Duncan had no other real pro prospects on his Wake Forest teams so of course he put up the stats he did.

 

Carter was the 4th option at best on a loaded Duke team, and he was so unselfish that he purposely took a backseat to Bagley and the guards for the good of the team. He only showed a fraction of his total game and STILL showed enough to be the 7th pick

 

If he went to GTech or Clemson do you not think he would’ve put up 20-10? I’m convinced some of you wouldn’t have drafted Duncan if he was in this draft either since he wasn’t a freak athlete or shoot 3s. Traditional bigs get hated on nowadays

 

 

 

 

[llperez]

 i dont care where they were at same age in college. End of the day tim duncan is an mvp who was one of the best to ever play the game of basketball, top 15 for sure possibly top 10 all time player. So youre comparing carter to that. Good luck

[cominup7Participant]

 Context is everything when making comparisons and looking at stats…Duncan had no other real pro prospects on his Wake Forest teams so of course he put up the stats he did.

 

Carter was the 4th option at best on a loaded Duke team, and he was so unselfish that he purposely took a backseat to Bagley and the guards for the good of the team. He only showed a fraction of his total game and STILL showed enough to be the 7th pick

 

If he went to GTech or Clemson do you not think he would’ve put up 20-10? I’m convinced some of you wouldn’t have drafted Duncan if he was in this draft either since he wasn’t a freak athlete or shoot 3s. Traditional bigs get hated on nowadays

 

 

 

 

[celtics1982Participant]

 Your comparing a top 10-15 player all-time to a guy that was a 4th or 5th option on a college team? With those other guys being late first, second round pick and an undrafted guy. Did you ever once think they made Carter look better? What it would be like it if the D focused on him and not Bagley ?

[whiteflashParticipant]

 Not sure how you can say "Dennis Smith will never be an efficient scorer"? He can get to the rim at will, and if he chose to he could score every time here. His job is to get others involved in SL, not get his own shot. If he’s around 45% from the field at some point, that’s pretty damn efficient. 

[festar35Participant]

Totally get what you are saying, but he plays a lot like Russell Westbrook and I’m not saying that it is a bad thing.
He has score first mentality and I don’t think it’ll be his ability that turns him into a more efficient scorer it’ll be based on the situations that Carlisle put a him in. Personally I’d rather him be an aggressive 41-42% shooter who makes up for it by drawing fouls than a 45-46% shooter who is more selective with his shots.

[whiteflashParticipant]

I gotcha, but he was just a shade under 40% last year and a lot of those misses were due to him getting hit at the rim and not getting the call. If he gets even half of those he’s around 45%. I expect him to be around there this year. I’d really like to see him and Doncic on the floor before the regular season starts.

[whiteflashParticipant]

 Also, did anyone see Carter’s block the other night? Easily one of the five best blocks I’ve ever seen. 

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