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  • #668941
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    bedrock23
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    They won 2 games.

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  • #668948
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    NiceWithTheRock
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    Yeah if they had Rose ^^^^

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  • #39047
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    IndianaBasketball
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    The Bulls lose to the 8th seeded 76ers 4-2.

    There were a lot of people on this site saying the Bulls could be a 3rd, 4th or 5th seed without Rose… That they were still a great team without Rose. People who got excited over the regular season not realizing that the playoffs are a different animal.

    There is a reason Rose was the MVP last season. With him, they are a championship contender. Without him, they’re a borderline playoff to first round exit team.

    On another note… The decision by CJ Watson to pass it to Omer Asik at the end of the game was one of the worst decisions I’ve seen in a long time. I knew they were going to lose right when he made the decision to pass the ball. Just SMH.

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  • #668945
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    And every game was close.  That series could have easily gone 4-2 the other way.

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  • #668947
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Let’s also give credit to Iguodala for stepping up to the line and making the biggest free-throws of his entire playing career.

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  • #668956
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Carlos Boozer 1-11 in a close out game… I don’t even care about his 13 rebounds. He was 1-11 in a win or go home situation and only took one free-throw.

    Will they just amnesty this guy already? I’d have all of his sh*t cleared out of his locker before he even got back to Chicago.

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  • #668957
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    Tioseco
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    You have to think that they also lost Joakim Noah and that made it a little more difficult. Though they would’ve won this series with Rose with or without Noah, no doubt.

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  • #668960
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    sheltwon3
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    Injuries hurt Chicago and even though Philly is an 8 seed, they are comparable to the top East teams.  I would not be surprise if they not Boston plays Miami.

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  • #668962
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    Nbanflguy
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    I dont know how Noah can miss playoff games because of a sprained ankle. I would have to be dead to leave a playoff series

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  • #668965
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    Nbanflguy
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    couple of things. have you ever had a sprained ankle? they are truly one of the most painful injuries ive ever had, and i heard some people say a sprained ankle is worse then a broken one.

    I  played in the minnesota soccer district playoffs with a fractured ankle.

    Played tournaments (multiple games in one day) with sprained ankles. My ankle was as big a grape fruit, but I never missed a game.

    I have played football & soccer with a broken arm. Basketball with sprained ankles.

    ha like I said, I would have to be dead to come out of a playoff game.

     

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  • #668963
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    Steven

    couple of things. have you ever had a sprained ankle? they are truly one of the most painful injuries ive ever had, and i heard some people say a sprained ankle is worse then a broken one.

     

    second of all, some of you guys are rose HATERS. he played the first game, and they killed the 6ers that game. then they lose rose, and now it was a pretty equal series. a number 1 seed to the 8 seed was equal. that should never be. the 6ers arent even that good IMO, and whoever they play next i think they get rocked. 

    so yes, even though they got the number 1 seed with d.rose this playoff series just goes to show, that the regular season really doesnt make that much of an impact. 

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  • #668964
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    Prometheus
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     Yeah, Watson’s pass to Asik…maybe the worst decision iv seen in sports since Lebron’s "The Decision."

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  • #668966
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    " some of you guys are rose HATERS. he played the first game, and they killed the 6ers that game."

    1st off, I’m not a Rose-hater, I was the first that dubbed him the MVP at the beginning of last season and everyone gave me sh!t.

    2nd of all, the Bulls did not "kill" the 76ers in game 1, it was a 12 point loss and it was moreso the Chicago defense as they held the 76ers to under 40% from the field the entire game.  Rose had a great game but in all honesty, if the Bulls got a bounce or two, they would have won this series 4-2; even without Rose.  Just so happens they didn’t.

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  • #668967
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    To follow up on Nbanflguy

    I have no clue how someone misses a game with a sprained ankle, tape it up, wear an ankle brace, tie your shoes very well, go back out there.  It’s not a valid excuse to miss a game, much less a playoff game.

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  • #668973
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    To follow up on Nbanflguy

    I have no clue how someone misses a game with a sprained ankle, tape it up, wear an ankle brace, tie your shoes very well, go back out there. It’s not a valid excuse to miss a game, much less a playoff game.

    Yeah it is really not that big of a deal. Yeah it hurts, but I guess some people are just not comfortable playing at less then 100%.

    I suffered a grade 2 ankle sprain before a big soccer tournament my junior year of high school. I iced it for a few days and then the morning of the tournament I did a a procedure. I cant remember what it was called, but the doctor hooked my ankle up to some machine and then when he turned it on it sent electricty into my ankle. He had me tell him when the pain was at a 10 on a scale on 1-10 and then i stood on my tip toes and held it for 30 seconds. Did that multiple times and then taped my ankle up and wore a ankle brace for the games. It still hurt like a b*tch, but the limp was gone for a few hours. Long enough to play a few games and still be effective.

    I did something similiar when I fractured my ankle. ha my left ankle really is a p*ssy.

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  • #668970
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    Steven

     youve heard the saying, "almost doesnt count" right? if steve novak hit a few more threes, the knicks might be playing another game tomorrow..

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  • #668987
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    DunksNJordans23
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     CJ needs to go

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  • #668991
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    thparadox
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     Don’t underestimate the 76ers either. They were probably the 4th best team in the conference behind Heat-Bulls-Celtics. (look at point differential).

    Rose means a lot to the Bulls, but it’s also because of their roster. Rose is the only scorer on the Bulls who can create his own shot.

    Rose is amazing, but I think he’s very slightly overrated if anyone thinks he’s better than: CP3, Lebron, Wade, Durant.

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  • #668994
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    Malik-Universal
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    everyone has had sprained ankles and they dont hurt that bad….. ice it…. get tape… maybe some protection

    and ur good to go……i know it was severly sprained… but its the playoffs….. im not saying if he did play he shouldve played 30-35 mintues….  but at least get sumthin out of it

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  • #668995
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    TallmanNYC
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     Depends on the sprain and the person. It doesn’t matter how tough you are. Me, when I sprain my ankle I’m out for a day or two, but could push through if it was my job. But I’ve got flat feet and only have minor sprains. My buddy who is a great athlete has high arches and sprains his ankles constantly (he eventually gave up basketball because of it). When he gets a sprain he is on crutches for a week. He is plenty tough just has ankles of glass. 

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  • #668998
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    Boozer stinks, but we knew that. Luol Deng had a good year and a monster line tonight, and this will carry over well into next year.

    I just hope D Rose recovers next year. His injury is pretty bad though. A healthy Bulls team next year might possibly be Miami’s only true
    challenge in the East.

    I think that the Bulls need another weapon. Right now it is Rose and Deng and then spotty contributions from everyone else. They really need a legit second option. Not sure they can pull it off though with Booz and Hamilton making big money.

    They might need to retool a bit. Get some younger role players around the Rose, Deng, and Noah core. Keep Taj Gibson and John Lucas but possibly move some of the other guys. That team might be a year or two away and by then Boozer and Rip might be too old. And Kyle Korver isn’t getting any quicker either. To me they remind me of LeBron’s Cavs teams that featured a legit superstar surrounded by glorified role players who hustled and defended in the regular season but came up short in the playoffs (where everyone hustles and defends).

    They might need to pass on resigning Asik and go after some more offense instead. Perhaps OJ Mayo (although I hope the Grizzlies can resign him). Maybe trade Korver and CJ Watson and a pick for Antawn Jamison as a scorer off the bench.

    That would them give Chicago a starting lineup of Rose, Rip, Deng, Boozer, and Noah with a high scoring bench of Lucas, OJ Mayo, Ronnie Brewer, Antawn Jamison, and Taj Gibson. They can then sign a cheaper backup center. Their new bench would feature more scoring and versatility while still keeping Brewer and Gibson.

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  • #669001
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    dede21

     Huh Chicago would of won 4-1 if Noah did not get hurt arguably

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  • #669011
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    DanEboy
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    To anyone who is calling Noah out for not playing, did you see him come back in the game when he sprained it? He was as gimpy a player as I have ever seen. He is way too much of a gamer to miss any game, let alone this type of game. The injury is obviously more serious than they are letting on.

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  • #669012
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     over-credited in way that he doesn’t carry the bulls… the bulls are a great team without him and some people specially espn (mostly last year) gave all the credit to rose. the first thing you heard when you asked some1 why he deserved mvp was ”he carried the bulls to the first seed". By saying he was over-credited i meant more like, the rest of the team was being under-credited as they played outstanding without him and this season proved that.  

    people said stuff i would’ve said… noah injury needs to be taken into account, he is not an all star and thibs likes to bench him in the clutch but he plays a big role to the bulls success…. i think philly is a very good team, who i had finishing 4-5th seed midway thru the season.

    "There were a lot of people on this site saying the Bulls could be a 3rd, 4th or 5th seed without Rose."

    yes, still do.

    "That they were still a great team without Rose"

    yes, still do.

    "People who got excited over the regular season not realizing that the playoffs are a different animal."

    idk who that was.

    "There is a reason Rose was the MVP last season."

    the bulls finish 1 seed while the heat finished 2nd and lost 3-0 to chi in the regular season. plus, lebron was the most hated athlete in america, and giving him a third mvp after "the decision" wasn’t exactly the right thing to do. 

    " With him, they are a championship contender."

    every championship contender needs a superstar, the rest of the team provides him with everything he needs for them to be one. 

    "Without him, they’re a borderline playoff to first round exit team."

    maybe they are a borderline first round exit team, but i think a rose-less bulls w/ noah beat philly in a series 7 outta 10 times. 

     

     

     

     

     
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  • #669020
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    dede21

     sprains are often work than breaks in terms of pain Noah was badly hurt I guess

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  • #669021
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    Hale
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    I think people don’t realize the difference between wanting to play through an injury and being effective playing with an injury. Doesn’t matter how tough you are if you’re going to suck on the court anyway. If you can barely walk, you can’t help much. 

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  • #669070
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    Til next year guys.. This just wasn’t our year.. D-Rose, get well soon.. we love you (no homo)… We’re gonna bounce back from this turmoil.. I guarandamntee…

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  • #669076
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    rwd5035
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    I don’t understand the hate for Noah. When I saw his ankle roll in Game 3, I thought DAMN, he’s probably out for the series. Only for him to come back, and try in Game 3 before ultimately succumbing to the injury. His ankle completely rolled running full speed on a fast break, and I’ve had my ankle roll like that once. Took me two to three weeks before I could even consider basketball again. Noah has some of the best doctors looking at his ankle, and they can’t make him comfortable enough to go in 5 days. Shows you how serious the injury was.

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  • #669087
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    PulseGlazer
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    The 76ers are clearly not a typical 8 seed.  Without Rose and Noah, the Bulls and Sixers are extremely close to the same team.  In a bunch of close games, the team that was more used to playing that way won.  Makes sense to me.

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  • #669098
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    He’s not over credited, IMO, he is the key that makes Chicago a Championship contender.  I’ve seen plenty of games where the Bulls played great defense, but their offense was not clicking and Rose just kicks it into another level, rattles off 6 or 8 straight points, the Bulls play great D to close out the game and they win.

    The Bulls play good enough D to always keep them in the game, but without Rose they don’t have the closer they need to go deep in the playoffs.  He’s not over credited because he is a major factor in not only their team  makeup, but their team strategy.

     I think the Bulls could have got past the 6ers if Noah was healthy.  Take away just Rose and they are still a playoff caliber team capable of getting past Philly.  Take away Rose and Noah and you have a team that is probably about as good as the Bucks. 

     

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  • #669110
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    aamir543
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    Once I sprained my right ankle and I droped 38 two days later, and I’ve also sprained my left ankle before and I wasn’t able to put weight on it for at least 5 days, it was about 3-4 weeks before I was playing ball again. It all depends, but ankle sprains are so painful, it makes it feel as if that lef is useless, and even though it generally is only a 2 weeks injury on averae, the effects to linger.

    And as for Noah, a Bulls fan told me that he saw a picture of the ankle and said that he couldn’t even bend it, and that there was too much swelling. I know what you guys are saying but to blame Noah would be ignorant in this situation.

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  • #669116
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "They won 2 games."

    But there was that guy who had 23-9-9 in one of those wins.

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  • #669118
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    DurantsWingspan

    I think the main thing with a sprained ankle is how long ago you have sprained it. I’ve spraint my ankle like 8 times on the same ankle and always play through it…AFTER ABOUT 3 or 4 DAYS. The first 2 or 3 days you can not even walk. It is IMPOSSIBLE. But after a few days you can play through it. It hurts but you can. I guess the question is when did he sprain it.

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  • #669120
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    DurantsWingspan

    I suffered a grade 2 ankle sprain before a big soccer tournament my junior year of high school. I iced it for a few days and then the morning of the tournament I did a a procedure. I cant remember what it was called, but the doctor hooked my ankle up to some machine and then when he turned it on it sent electricty into my ankle. He had me tell him when the pain was at a 10 on a scale on 1-10 and then i stood on my tip toes and held it for 30 seconds. Did that multiple times and then taped my ankle up and wore a ankle brace for the games. It still hurt like a b*tch, but the limp was gone for a few hours. Long enough to play a few games and still be effective.

    Exactly. If you have a few days rest it is definitley doable and should be done. But if you spraint it only one or two days ago, it is a different story. When you can’t even walk without hanging on to a railing, you obviously cant play.

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  • #669123
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    Rose is under credited.

    His impact goes far beyond assists and how many points he averages. The pressure he puts on a defense and the attention he demands allows his supporting cast to eat. Without him, they were starving.

    We learned that the Bulls can’t fend for themselves without Rose leading the pack.

     

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