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  • #60870
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    xJumpManx
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     I hope he goes back to Clippers they are the much better team.

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  • #999196
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    Biggysmalls
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     Good lord this is the stupidest story that just never ends. 

    First its the offensively inept center who wants to be the No.1 option

    Next its the guy who didn’t get enough high 5s

    Next its a guy giving his team an F for the offseason

    Now this. 

    If this was a team like the Nuggets, or the Bucks literally nobody would care. It’s just annoying. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #999051
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    Biggysmalls
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     Good lord this is the stupidest story that just never ends. 

    First its the offensively inept center who wants to be the No.1 option

    Next its the guy who didn’t get enough high 5s

    Next its a guy giving his team an F for the offseason

    Now this. 

    If this was a team like the Nuggets, or the Bucks literally nobody would care. It’s just annoying. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #999200
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    steviechillz
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     I would be AMAZED if Jordan changes his mind…he is actually working on free-throws and wants to be "the man"….no way he is "the man" in LA

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  • #999055
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     I would be AMAZED if Jordan changes his mind…he is actually working on free-throws and wants to be "the man"….no way he is "the man" in LA

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    • #999204
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      jalli
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      "the man" anywhere 

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    • #999059
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      jalli
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      "the man" anywhere 

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  • #999202
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     I was just reading some of the details on hoopsrumors.  Sounds like CP3 and a group that includes Doc are going to Houston to meet with him.  They feel DJ’s agent was pushing him to go to Dallas because he has a relationship with the Mavs.  Doc also wants to convince DJ that he will be more involved in the offense.  

    As someone who saw a lot of Clippers games I don’t see DJ being much of an option in the post.  That goes for either team he decides to go to.  

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  • #999057
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     I was just reading some of the details on hoopsrumors.  Sounds like CP3 and a group that includes Doc are going to Houston to meet with him.  They feel DJ’s agent was pushing him to go to Dallas because he has a relationship with the Mavs.  Doc also wants to convince DJ that he will be more involved in the offense.  

    As someone who saw a lot of Clippers games I don’t see DJ being much of an option in the post.  That goes for either team he decides to go to.  

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  • #999210
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    Memphis Madness
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    So will the Lakers or the Clippers get the first pick in the draft next year?

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  • #999065
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    Memphis Madness
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    So will the Lakers or the Clippers get the first pick in the draft next year?

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  • #999220
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    TRC1991
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    Sounds like he’s really considering returning back to LA, as his agents were pushing pretty hard to get him to Dallas, it may have been him committing to something too soon 

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    Sounds like he’s really considering returning back to LA, as his agents were pushing pretty hard to get him to Dallas, it may have been him committing to something too soon 

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  • #999222
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    doc rivers is going to show up at deandre jordan’s house like :

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  • #999077
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    RUDEBOY_
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    doc rivers is going to show up at deandre jordan’s house like :

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  • #999228
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    Magic Jordan
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     It’s funny how the media determines how things are percieved by people.  The Lakers for example put up a billboard asking their current player to stay and got nothing but blasted, and quite frankly are still getting blasted about it today.  The Clippers organization are on their knees begging DJ and don’t face anywhere the backlash because the media loves these new Clippers.  I hope DJ goes to the Mavs after all of this just because I hate the Clippers.  

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  • #999083
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     It’s funny how the media determines how things are percieved by people.  The Lakers for example put up a billboard asking their current player to stay and got nothing but blasted, and quite frankly are still getting blasted about it today.  The Clippers organization are on their knees begging DJ and don’t face anywhere the backlash because the media loves these new Clippers.  I hope DJ goes to the Mavs after all of this just because I hate the Clippers.  

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  • #999230
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    Meditated States
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     What the hell is this?

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  • #999085
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    Meditated States
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     What the hell is this?

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  • #999232
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    We all know why the Lakers get hate.  Lakers are one of the few teams that can make good moves and still get considered bad because they did not make the homerun move that number one they really dont have a history of making all the time and number two those free agents were already linked to the team they wanted to go to.  Number 3 Lakers got a former All Star center who is under 30 and some very solid bench piece to add to an exciting young core.  They have young talent at all positions.  

     

    Upshaw would have been a top 10 pick if you just base it off talent and not off court issues and he appears to have turned the corner like Whiteside did.

    Randle is said to be in better shape and a beast.

    Anthony Brown is a solid 3 and D guy who has a high b ball IQ and shoots a good percent from 3

    Clarkson has gotten stronger and had better range and his rookie year was awesome after the break.

    Russell was the 2nd overall pick and has been impressing in summer workouts.

    Then you have the Veterans

    Roy Hibbert 2 time all star

    Brandon Bass reliable vet with a jump shot and can rebound with the best of them

    Kobe Bryant Superstar and 5 Champion rings owner

    Lou Williams fresh off a 6th man of year award

     

    Most teams will all of this would be getting praise but not the Lakers.  Lakers have not had this much collective talent in a long time.  Their first 3 peat they were pretty talented with vets but not with this much young potential because when you have Shaq and Kobe you can surround them will solid but not great players

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #999087
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    We all know why the Lakers get hate.  Lakers are one of the few teams that can make good moves and still get considered bad because they did not make the homerun move that number one they really dont have a history of making all the time and number two those free agents were already linked to the team they wanted to go to.  Number 3 Lakers got a former All Star center who is under 30 and some very solid bench piece to add to an exciting young core.  They have young talent at all positions.  

     

    Upshaw would have been a top 10 pick if you just base it off talent and not off court issues and he appears to have turned the corner like Whiteside did.

    Randle is said to be in better shape and a beast.

    Anthony Brown is a solid 3 and D guy who has a high b ball IQ and shoots a good percent from 3

    Clarkson has gotten stronger and had better range and his rookie year was awesome after the break.

    Russell was the 2nd overall pick and has been impressing in summer workouts.

    Then you have the Veterans

    Roy Hibbert 2 time all star

    Brandon Bass reliable vet with a jump shot and can rebound with the best of them

    Kobe Bryant Superstar and 5 Champion rings owner

    Lou Williams fresh off a 6th man of year award

     

    Most teams will all of this would be getting praise but not the Lakers.  Lakers have not had this much collective talent in a long time.  Their first 3 peat they were pretty talented with vets but not with this much young potential because when you have Shaq and Kobe you can surround them will solid but not great players

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #999234
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       Yet the Mavs have been hailed as a free agent winner for signing a returning SG who is trying to come back from one of the worst injuries in basketball to a contract that he wouldn’t have gotten even if he was healthy… and an overrated center who will never be able to score in a consistent manner and who has an overrated defensive impact.

      I guess it’s the Lakers fault for creating such lofty expectations…. and being so successful.

       

       

       

       

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    • #999089
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       Yet the Mavs have been hailed as a free agent winner for signing a returning SG who is trying to come back from one of the worst injuries in basketball to a contract that he wouldn’t have gotten even if he was healthy… and an overrated center who will never be able to score in a consistent manner and who has an overrated defensive impact.

      I guess it’s the Lakers fault for creating such lofty expectations…. and being so successful.

       

       

       

       

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    • #999244
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      Well the Lakers embarrased themselves not for going after Aldridge but the way they went after him. The Laker way was always winning basketball games first and showtime second. From what I heard they led with the glitz and glamour of living in LA and had almost no actual basketball talk in their first meeting.

      As for the moves they did make they were clearly the backup plan and while I like some moves others are headscracthers. As a Sixers fan I am glad they probably made just enough moves to ensure their pick will fall outside the top 3 and thus belong to Philly.

      Upshaw is not a top 10 talent in the draft. He is an elite shot blocker but lacks other skills. I would say you could argue he could possibly be top 20 but top 10 is off the table.

      Randle is said to be in better shape but after breaking a leg and not being able to do cardio I will be willing to bet he is probably at best in the same shape he came into the league in…and judging from a picture I saw of him perhaps a bit flabbier. I am still excited to finally see him play in the NBA because his game should translate well.

      Anthony Brown is a solid 3 point shooter but he is an average defender at best…if he is in the rotation they have big problems.

      Clarkson and Russell is a backcourt that should be able to work off one another and should be the strength of this team moving forward. That was the statement that was made when they passed on Okafor…they are going to a guard driven team. We all know the Lakers have had an all star big man every title they have won but they believe the league is changing.

      Now this next move was interesting because the league is changing and big guys who can only defend the paint like Hibbert are becoming less and less desired. He was a two time all-star but that was more because the team he was on. He is a solid post defender but not many teams play that way anymore. There is a reason Indiana replaced him with a 19 year old rookie with more offensive and defensive versatility.

      Bass is a solid back up 4 but he is pretty much solely a spot up midrange shooter at this point. He can’t rebound with anyone as you put it. Russell Westrbrook at 6-3 had a higher true rebounding % than Bass at 6-8 last season

      Kobe is still Kobe…not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing for this team. The real question is will he be out there or will his body let him down again.

      Adding Lou Williams at the price they did was probably the best move they made. He is a dynamic scorer off the bench and will surely be able to teach Russell and Clarkson some tricks…maybe more willingly than Kobe. I think they could end up trading him down the road because his contract will look really good in a couple years. He doesn’t fit with Nick Young coming off the bench but I doubt they will find many takers for Swaggy P.

      The bottom line is after they missed out of the big name guys the Lakers probably just should have thrown in the towel and tanked. They probably feel Kobe deserves better in his final season so they signed some guys that could make this a 35 win team instead of a 25 win team. In the end they will miss out on the playoffs either way but this way they won’t be keeping their 2016 draft pick that could have ended up being Inrgam, Rabb or Diallo…unless the lotto balls come up in their favor again.

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    • #999099
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      Well the Lakers embarrased themselves not for going after Aldridge but the way they went after him. The Laker way was always winning basketball games first and showtime second. From what I heard they led with the glitz and glamour of living in LA and had almost no actual basketball talk in their first meeting.

      As for the moves they did make they were clearly the backup plan and while I like some moves others are headscracthers. As a Sixers fan I am glad they probably made just enough moves to ensure their pick will fall outside the top 3 and thus belong to Philly.

      Upshaw is not a top 10 talent in the draft. He is an elite shot blocker but lacks other skills. I would say you could argue he could possibly be top 20 but top 10 is off the table.

      Randle is said to be in better shape but after breaking a leg and not being able to do cardio I will be willing to bet he is probably at best in the same shape he came into the league in…and judging from a picture I saw of him perhaps a bit flabbier. I am still excited to finally see him play in the NBA because his game should translate well.

      Anthony Brown is a solid 3 point shooter but he is an average defender at best…if he is in the rotation they have big problems.

      Clarkson and Russell is a backcourt that should be able to work off one another and should be the strength of this team moving forward. That was the statement that was made when they passed on Okafor…they are going to a guard driven team. We all know the Lakers have had an all star big man every title they have won but they believe the league is changing.

      Now this next move was interesting because the league is changing and big guys who can only defend the paint like Hibbert are becoming less and less desired. He was a two time all-star but that was more because the team he was on. He is a solid post defender but not many teams play that way anymore. There is a reason Indiana replaced him with a 19 year old rookie with more offensive and defensive versatility.

      Bass is a solid back up 4 but he is pretty much solely a spot up midrange shooter at this point. He can’t rebound with anyone as you put it. Russell Westrbrook at 6-3 had a higher true rebounding % than Bass at 6-8 last season

      Kobe is still Kobe…not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing for this team. The real question is will he be out there or will his body let him down again.

      Adding Lou Williams at the price they did was probably the best move they made. He is a dynamic scorer off the bench and will surely be able to teach Russell and Clarkson some tricks…maybe more willingly than Kobe. I think they could end up trading him down the road because his contract will look really good in a couple years. He doesn’t fit with Nick Young coming off the bench but I doubt they will find many takers for Swaggy P.

      The bottom line is after they missed out of the big name guys the Lakers probably just should have thrown in the towel and tanked. They probably feel Kobe deserves better in his final season so they signed some guys that could make this a 35 win team instead of a 25 win team. In the end they will miss out on the playoffs either way but this way they won’t be keeping their 2016 draft pick that could have ended up being Inrgam, Rabb or Diallo…unless the lotto balls come up in their favor again.

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      • #999189
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        sheltwon3
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         Embarrassed how, you listen to the media too much.  How are they embarrased for not getting every top free agent.  There has never been  a time that Lakers got every top free agent.  Look up the history and please tell me what year so I can see it myself.  The media create news and the use the Lakers because of the popularity.

         

        Upshaw is probably close to Willie Cauley Stein who went number 6.  It is pretty much our opinions but the history of drafts you have a big man who is a legit 7 footer who a defensive player with good to decent athleticism.  That is usually a top 10 pick.

         

        Check out the report on sport injuries.  Randle was more a freak thing because he was not drinking enough milk which he is doing more now and leg injuries tend to make the bone stronger after a break.  He also has lost weight and he has toned up and that is what is being reported and echoes by other players.  His condition is probably off but it is summertime now so he has time until the season starts.

        Anthony Brown should be close to what Wes Johnson did and he is coming off the bench.  He is still a solid player.  You act like there are not guys on teams just to make shots and play decent defense.

        Bass numbers are solid and I am sure Lakers are not paying him a ton so it will be a good deal for a guy who can play 20 productive minutes.

        Kobe should be healthy and it is not like he has any chronic leg injuries now so he should be good.  I think people are trying to build too much on the injury thing.

        They won 22 game with an unhealthy squad last year and Dallas and Portland who made the playoffs last year are going to be so so teams.

        Phoenix who just missed out doesn’t look that special so there is a lot of room to move up from 22 wins and you can’t discount a team with a healthy Kobe of winning less than 40 games.  I don’t think it has ever happened. Kobe dragged a team with less talent than this to the playoffs and almost beat a pretty good Suns team.

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

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        • #999215
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          It isn’t that they had to get every top player but Aldridge seemed to want to play there until the meeting in which basketball was the last thing they talked about. They screwed it up….plain and simple…they were out immediately because they used the LA glamour pitch on LA.

          Upshaw isn’t close to WCS as an athlete. I think WCS went too early but you could argue he is a top 10 player in this class…the same can’t be said of Upshaw just because they are similar players in style. Upshaw was also flagged because of a heart condition and not just his attitude problems.

          I don’t care about Randle’s milk consumption…he is one of the positives on the Lakers so no need to argue about him anyway.

          The next issue is that you are comparing Brown to Wes Johnson and thinking it is a compliment. There is a reason that Johnson’s services aren’t in demand this summer and it is because he isn’t that good. He can make some shots but he isn’t consistent and didn’t even score 10 points a game playing 30 minutes a night on a crappy Lakers squad. He also isn’t much of a defender despite having the phsyicals tools to be at least above average.

          Sure Bass is solid but nothing to be excited about for a team that won’t be in the playoffs…and like I said he isn’t a good rebounder as you claimed.

          They should actually pray that Kobe isn’t healthy so that they might be bad enough to keep their 2016 draft pick. If he drags this team to the playoffs in the West at age 37 after playing 41 games combined the last two seasons I might start calling him one of the greatest players of all time. Even in his prime Kobe could only account for an estimated 15 wins added….I am thinking they will be about 34-48.

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          It isn’t that they had to get every top player but Aldridge seemed to want to play there until the meeting in which basketball was the last thing they talked about. They screwed it up….plain and simple…they were out immediately because they used the LA glamour pitch on LA.

          Upshaw isn’t close to WCS as an athlete. I think WCS went too early but you could argue he is a top 10 player in this class…the same can’t be said of Upshaw just because they are similar players in style. Upshaw was also flagged because of a heart condition and not just his attitude problems.

          I don’t care about Randle’s milk consumption…he is one of the positives on the Lakers so no need to argue about him anyway.

          The next issue is that you are comparing Brown to Wes Johnson and thinking it is a compliment. There is a reason that Johnson’s services aren’t in demand this summer and it is because he isn’t that good. He can make some shots but he isn’t consistent and didn’t even score 10 points a game playing 30 minutes a night on a crappy Lakers squad. He also isn’t much of a defender despite having the phsyicals tools to be at least above average.

          Sure Bass is solid but nothing to be excited about for a team that won’t be in the playoffs…and like I said he isn’t a good rebounder as you claimed.

          They should actually pray that Kobe isn’t healthy so that they might be bad enough to keep their 2016 draft pick. If he drags this team to the playoffs in the West at age 37 after playing 41 games combined the last two seasons I might start calling him one of the greatest players of all time. Even in his prime Kobe could only account for an estimated 15 wins added….I am thinking they will be about 34-48.

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      • #999334
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        sheltwon3
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         Embarrassed how, you listen to the media too much.  How are they embarrased for not getting every top free agent.  There has never been  a time that Lakers got every top free agent.  Look up the history and please tell me what year so I can see it myself.  The media create news and the use the Lakers because of the popularity.

         

        Upshaw is probably close to Willie Cauley Stein who went number 6.  It is pretty much our opinions but the history of drafts you have a big man who is a legit 7 footer who a defensive player with good to decent athleticism.  That is usually a top 10 pick.

         

        Check out the report on sport injuries.  Randle was more a freak thing because he was not drinking enough milk which he is doing more now and leg injuries tend to make the bone stronger after a break.  He also has lost weight and he has toned up and that is what is being reported and echoes by other players.  His condition is probably off but it is summertime now so he has time until the season starts.

        Anthony Brown should be close to what Wes Johnson did and he is coming off the bench.  He is still a solid player.  You act like there are not guys on teams just to make shots and play decent defense.

        Bass numbers are solid and I am sure Lakers are not paying him a ton so it will be a good deal for a guy who can play 20 productive minutes.

        Kobe should be healthy and it is not like he has any chronic leg injuries now so he should be good.  I think people are trying to build too much on the injury thing.

        They won 22 game with an unhealthy squad last year and Dallas and Portland who made the playoffs last year are going to be so so teams.

        Phoenix who just missed out doesn’t look that special so there is a lot of room to move up from 22 wins and you can’t discount a team with a healthy Kobe of winning less than 40 games.  I don’t think it has ever happened. Kobe dragged a team with less talent than this to the playoffs and almost beat a pretty good Suns team.

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

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    • #999312
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      Lakers won’t win more than 35 games this year. And will loose their first round pick. This is why everybody is ragging on them. Nobody wants to play with Kobe. He’s an all time great, but he can’t stay healthy anymore, shoots a poor percentage, calls out teammates whether he plays well or not, and sucks down 30% of the cap. Lakers won’t be a winning team again until he retires. Why would any team get praised for that?

      And to top it off, they picked Larry Nance Jr in the first round…Larry Nance Jr. A lot of mocks weren’t even sure he would get drafted at all. They passed over some good quality for him, and could have gotten him in the 2nd round or as an undrafted free agent. Piss poor offseason for the Lakers.

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      Lakers won’t win more than 35 games this year. And will loose their first round pick. This is why everybody is ragging on them. Nobody wants to play with Kobe. He’s an all time great, but he can’t stay healthy anymore, shoots a poor percentage, calls out teammates whether he plays well or not, and sucks down 30% of the cap. Lakers won’t be a winning team again until he retires. Why would any team get praised for that?

      And to top it off, they picked Larry Nance Jr in the first round…Larry Nance Jr. A lot of mocks weren’t even sure he would get drafted at all. They passed over some good quality for him, and could have gotten him in the 2nd round or as an undrafted free agent. Piss poor offseason for the Lakers.

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  • #999236
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     ^^^^

    The Lakers are held to a higher standard.  The Griz get lots of props for signing Brandan Wright.  

    The Lakers are expected to sign THE top guys.

    DeAndre Jordan should have been the top guy on their board.  Then Aldridge.  Marc Gasol didn’t want to come here after the way the treated his brother towards the end.  So, after that there options were pretty limited.  Lou Williams is a nice signing.  The Hibbert deal helps.  … better than throwing a ton of guys who won’t move the needle much.

    You have to give some credit to the Lakers for not signing guys just because they had to.  They got some value.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #999091
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     ^^^^

    The Lakers are held to a higher standard.  The Griz get lots of props for signing Brandan Wright.  

    The Lakers are expected to sign THE top guys.

    DeAndre Jordan should have been the top guy on their board.  Then Aldridge.  Marc Gasol didn’t want to come here after the way the treated his brother towards the end.  So, after that there options were pretty limited.  Lou Williams is a nice signing.  The Hibbert deal helps.  … better than throwing a ton of guys who won’t move the needle much.

    You have to give some credit to the Lakers for not signing guys just because they had to.  They got some value.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #999185
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      sheltwon3
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       Marc Gasol wasn’t leaving Memphis so to say that it was because of Pau is just some media BS.  Alridge was already said to be going to the Spurs before free agency started.  Alridge wants to win now and Lakers can now provide that this year.  Also I am sure Lakers would not want to be involved in this DeAndre drama.  Next year Lakers will be able to do more in free agency and they picked up some solid bench guys.

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       Marc Gasol wasn’t leaving Memphis so to say that it was because of Pau is just some media BS.  Alridge was already said to be going to the Spurs before free agency started.  Alridge wants to win now and Lakers can now provide that this year.  Also I am sure Lakers would not want to be involved in this DeAndre drama.  Next year Lakers will be able to do more in free agency and they picked up some solid bench guys.

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    BlueLaces
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    If this does happen, I can’t wait to hear what Mark Cuban has to say.

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    BlueLaces
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    If this does happen, I can’t wait to hear what Mark Cuban has to say.

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      machu46
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      Whatever he says, I think another fine is in his near future lol.  Should be good.

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      machu46
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      Whatever he says, I think another fine is in his near future lol.  Should be good.

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  • #999261
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    nill650
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     If dj returns to lac he’s in his right to do so, but it should be a major influence on the league modifying the rules of the 9 day morentorium. 

    how anyone feels about it is really irrelevent, but the agent for dj will be banished pretty quickly, and dj will have to reside to being a clipper for life… noone else will want to take that gamble watching other f/a go off the availablitity board . 

    Dallas would have a right to be extremely angry over this as it goes from fringe playoff team to lottery bound with nothing to show esp after losing monta and dirk took less etc.

     

     

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  • #999117
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     If dj returns to lac he’s in his right to do so, but it should be a major influence on the league modifying the rules of the 9 day morentorium. 

    how anyone feels about it is really irrelevent, but the agent for dj will be banished pretty quickly, and dj will have to reside to being a clipper for life… noone else will want to take that gamble watching other f/a go off the availablitity board . 

    Dallas would have a right to be extremely angry over this as it goes from fringe playoff team to lottery bound with nothing to show esp after losing monta and dirk took less etc.

     

     

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    • #999281
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      Choppy
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      Losing chandler with no obvious replacement for him or DJ will hurt the most. 

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    • #999137
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      Choppy
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      Losing chandler with no obvious replacement for him or DJ will hurt the most. 

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  • #999285
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    ExumInferno
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     Very interesting, and strange.  Whatever he does, he will be very unpopular in one of those places when he visits.

    It seems that A Stoudemire wants to sign with the team that misses out on D Jordan, so not exactly the same type of defender.

    Dallas would be in huge trouble, unless Chandler decides he doesn’t want to be a Sun, which won’t happen.

    Maybe Dallas’ next option is K Seraphin?  Bargnani, Aldrich, Kendrick Perkins?

     

     

     

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  • #999141
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    ExumInferno
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     Very interesting, and strange.  Whatever he does, he will be very unpopular in one of those places when he visits.

    It seems that A Stoudemire wants to sign with the team that misses out on D Jordan, so not exactly the same type of defender.

    Dallas would be in huge trouble, unless Chandler decides he doesn’t want to be a Sun, which won’t happen.

    Maybe Dallas’ next option is K Seraphin?  Bargnani, Aldrich, Kendrick Perkins?

     

     

     

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  • #999289
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    mavsatx
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     Time to tank. Sit Wes all year. Dirk take year off. 

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  • #999145
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    mavsatx
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     Time to tank. Sit Wes all year. Dirk take year off. 

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  • #999298
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    antiwork3000
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    I know Deandre can dunk and all but both Mavs and Clippers would have been better off going after a more all around center like Koufos.  

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  • #999153
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    antiwork3000
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    I know Deandre can dunk and all but both Mavs and Clippers would have been better off going after a more all around center like Koufos.  

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  • #999169
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     looks like hes back with the Clippers

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  • #999314
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     looks like hes back with the Clippers

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  • #999171
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    eric palmer
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     As a Mavs fan, I’m completely at a loss for words. Completely screwed the Mavs over here. If he wouldn’t have committed to us, we still could have traded for Hibbert, signed Koufos, etc. but now we’ll be stuck with fucking Bernard James as our center?!

     

    We still wouldn’t have competed for a championship this year, but would have had a very good young core with room to sign another big name one of the following off seasons. 

     

    Now, we’ll be stuck in the late lottery for who knows how long. Too good to get a franchise player, too bad to make it past the first round of the playoffs. I’m going to drink…

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  • #999316
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    eric palmer
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     As a Mavs fan, I’m completely at a loss for words. Completely screwed the Mavs over here. If he wouldn’t have committed to us, we still could have traded for Hibbert, signed Koufos, etc. but now we’ll be stuck with fucking Bernard James as our center?!

     

    We still wouldn’t have competed for a championship this year, but would have had a very good young core with room to sign another big name one of the following off seasons. 

     

    Now, we’ll be stuck in the late lottery for who knows how long. Too good to get a franchise player, too bad to make it past the first round of the playoffs. I’m going to drink…

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  • #999197
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    King Calucha
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    I’m not a Mavs fan, but after this… I don’t like DeAndre anymore.

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  • #999342
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    King Calucha
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    I’m not a Mavs fan, but after this… I don’t like DeAndre anymore.

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  • #999211
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    khaled_a_d
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    Man,we are fucked up
    I want to see how we are gonna move on from this .Cuban and Nelson are still one of the best in the game and have been always able to pull something out of the blue .Rick Carlisle is one of the elite coaches in the league ,he will leave in 2016 most probably
    I believe we aren’t gonna tank now ,I fully expect to put a competitive roster ,I would bet that we finish 9th or 10th in the west .and probably give Celtics a relatively high pick .though Ideally I hope we reach the play-offs but can’t see it happening
    After that ,we will have to face the reality and do a Hinkie

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  • #999356
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    khaled_a_d
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    Man,we are fucked up
    I want to see how we are gonna move on from this .Cuban and Nelson are still one of the best in the game and have been always able to pull something out of the blue .Rick Carlisle is one of the elite coaches in the league ,he will leave in 2016 most probably
    I believe we aren’t gonna tank now ,I fully expect to put a competitive roster ,I would bet that we finish 9th or 10th in the west .and probably give Celtics a relatively high pick .though Ideally I hope we reach the play-offs but can’t see it happening
    After that ,we will have to face the reality and do a Hinkie

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  • #999250
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    McDunkin

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    McDunkin

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  • #999252
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    Tyrober
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     It’s not just that he screwed over the Mavericks by not going to them, but the fact that they lost out on spending that $20 million a year on other players. Just a cold thing to do… You don’t make a $80 million dollar decision without being 100% certain about what you want to do.

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    • #999492
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      nill650
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       yep, like i said earlier in this discussion the league will have to raise an eyebrow to this at least.But the problem is it has happenned before and nothing changed, just not in the new age of social media.

      turkoglu did it, boozer did it…

      a deal taint a deal unless the john hancock is done…

      Jordan and the Clippers might have actually done this entire thing on purpose to screw over the mavs…but that will never be proven.

       

       

       

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    • #999347
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      nill650
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       yep, like i said earlier in this discussion the league will have to raise an eyebrow to this at least.But the problem is it has happenned before and nothing changed, just not in the new age of social media.

      turkoglu did it, boozer did it…

      a deal taint a deal unless the john hancock is done…

      Jordan and the Clippers might have actually done this entire thing on purpose to screw over the mavs…but that will never be proven.

       

       

       

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  • #999396
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    Tyrober
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     It’s not just that he screwed over the Mavericks by not going to them, but the fact that they lost out on spending that $20 million a year on other players. Just a cold thing to do… You don’t make a $80 million dollar decision without being 100% certain about what you want to do.

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