[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Jahlil Okafor looks excellent debut and proved some doubters wrong with some of his knocks. People saying he can’t shoot free throws and don’t have a jumper and he been hitting jumpers all preseason and his first NBA game and he’s been making his free throws. I never felt like he was a pretty bad free throw shooter that he shown in the second half of the season at Duke. People forget he was pretty good at free throw shooting the first half of the season. 

The Jahlil Okafor draft critiques is the main reason why I don’t really pay attention to most of the experts around draft time. I watched Okafor when he was high school and he was pretty good mid range shooter and he was pretty good at free throws. These experts praised Karl-Anthony Towns jumper when he rarely took any jumpers in college and praised him because he made them in high school, but failed to mention that Okafor was a pretty good mid range shooter and free throw shooter in high school. They can say he’s inconsistent at those things, but they say he simply can’t do it.

 

John Wall is so good, he’s the first point guard in 30 years with his stat line last night and he’s the 3rd player in league history that had that stat line on opening night along with The Dream and David Robinson. His defense is really on another level right now and he’s probably going to go down as the best guard shot blocker in league history. I believe he really taking his game to another level and he’s keep getting better every season he’s played in the league. I believe he’s keep making the case to be in the best point guard conversation, not saying he’s the best, but he deserve to be in the conversation along with Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, and Stephen Curry.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. HookShotParticipant]

John Wall is a beast, but I wonder whether there is too much pressure on him in Washington in terms of defending the opposing teams best player, distributing the ball, and taking the last shot. Who will free him from some of those tasks on this Washington team?

[Mr. HookShotParticipant]

John Wall is a beast, but I wonder whether there is too much pressure on him in Washington in terms of defending the opposing teams best player, distributing the ball, and taking the last shot. Who will free him from some of those tasks on this Washington team?

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 the average fan who tunes in for the Draft Lottery & then let’s ESPN & other Media outlets tell them who is good & who isn’t… & we ALL know that ratings considerations & politics are involved w/ many of these talking heads who simply Pick & Chose what qualities to focus on so they can Support whatever Story Narrative their bosses are building….

John Wall was the #1 pick in 2010 & he is a Clear Franchise piece – he has 5 years in the League & historically these Top Lottery picks Explode after year 5 – Wall is officially in his "Prime" & he is a Real Leader – his stat line last night was Insane!

It’s Ironic that you mentioned Okafor w/ Wall b/c the #2 pick in Wall’s Draft Class was Evan Turner – the Horrific pick by Sixers Coach & Team President Doug Collins & that TERRIBLE pick set in motion the circumstances that led to the Complete decimation of that Franchise… 2 years later, Collins hoping to right the wrong of picking Turner over Boogie Cousins traded  – or as I like to call it "GAVE AWAY" the Sixers PRESENT Talent (2012 first round pick, Igudola & Nic Vucevik) AND their FUTURE by including the Sixers 2015 AND 2017 First Round Draft picks… SO when Hinkie took over in May of 2013 – the 2015 pick he used to Draft Okafor had been traded for….

  ARE YOU READY for it???? Arnotte Moultry! Arnotte Moultry almost cost Phila Jahlil Okafor…

Most of us have known about Okafor since his Junior year in High School… I remember reading scouting reports on THIS site by Many scouts that described Okafor’s as the "LOCK "1 pick in 2015 b/c he has the best low post game we (the scouts) have seen in 30 years – maybe ever!" I could not believe that last line b/c these scouts are Not prone to hyerbole… Okafor was Still the consensus #1 pick until Kentucky’s Karl Anthony Towns put on a low post disply against Notre Dame’s Miniature front court to rescue Kentucky in the Elite 8 NCAA Tourney game…

All year, Every scout I read or heard put Okafor #1 & Towns #2 until that night.. But even before they flip flopped & after – EVERY scout agreed that Okafor & Towns were BY FAR the top two talents & no one else was even close… Many scouts (b/c the Sixers had a chance to get the top pick) were asked who the Sixers should pick if they Landed the Top pick when they already had two blue chip prospect Centers & EVERY single scout & talent evaluatir that I personally heard or read said the same thing – "I don’t care how many Centers the Sixers have – there is NO WAY you pass on Towns or Okafor for ANYONE else in this draft…

And then for some reason in the weeks between the NCAA tourny & the Draft, Okafor’s game was attacked relentlessly… But I never paid attention b/c it reminded me of Andrew Luck being attacked before the NFL Draft – It Gets ratings… & then the ignorant public runs w/ it…

I watched that Boston / Phila game last night…. Other than Nerlens Noel (who was also Dominant for stretches) Phila had D-League players out there… Okafor ate Boston’s front court alive at BOTH ends… If Phila had even an Average NBA PG who could make entry passes Okafor could have hung 40+ on Boston – they had No answer for him… Stevens adjusted & forced those awful Phila guards to work under pressure so Okafor would have to go all the way out to the 3 point line & they would throw him the ball in a panic w/ 5 seconds left on the shot clock & Okafor had turn overs that were on his guards not him…

Boston scored 35 easy points in transition off turnovers & they easily beat phila.. But for anyone watching that game who knows basketball their reaction had to be the same as mine & it was "HOLY UCK! – Okafor & Noel are Dynamic! & what the Uck will this team do when Embiid returns to join them!?!? when Phila or Boston was in the half court at BOTH ends Noel & Okafor were Dominant from 18 feet in Boston could not stop them (especially Okafor) & on Defense No Boston Center could establish position b/c Okafor is just too strong & Noel is a human jumping jack roaming to block any shots…

I LUV Townms – I’m not down onhim – he looked great too… But Okafor is a Beast – I really want to see Embiid return but even if he doesn’t Noel & Okafor are going to be a real force in the paint for a Dozen years… & Wall is a Star – I think he needs another top player who can score to really do damage in the playoffs – preferably a consistent Low Post threat – but Wall is the real deal… in the NBA – the Draft is a crap shoot & there are a lot of Busts, but I say this all the time, if you want to contend for a Ring – you Must acquire that player in the Top 10 of the Draft b/c that is where ALL the Top, Top players on each time come from…. (so sorry for the long post – I swear I’m trying to shorten these things…)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 the average fan who tunes in for the Draft Lottery & then let’s ESPN & other Media outlets tell them who is good & who isn’t… & we ALL know that ratings considerations & politics are involved w/ many of these talking heads who simply Pick & Chose what qualities to focus on so they can Support whatever Story Narrative their bosses are building….

John Wall was the #1 pick in 2010 & he is a Clear Franchise piece – he has 5 years in the League & historically these Top Lottery picks Explode after year 5 – Wall is officially in his "Prime" & he is a Real Leader – his stat line last night was Insane!

It’s Ironic that you mentioned Okafor w/ Wall b/c the #2 pick in Wall’s Draft Class was Evan Turner – the Horrific pick by Sixers Coach & Team President Doug Collins & that TERRIBLE pick set in motion the circumstances that led to the Complete decimation of that Franchise… 2 years later, Collins hoping to right the wrong of picking Turner over Boogie Cousins traded  – or as I like to call it "GAVE AWAY" the Sixers PRESENT Talent (2012 first round pick, Igudola & Nic Vucevik) AND their FUTURE by including the Sixers 2015 AND 2017 First Round Draft picks… SO when Hinkie took over in May of 2013 – the 2015 pick he used to Draft Okafor had been traded for….

  ARE YOU READY for it???? Arnotte Moultry! Arnotte Moultry almost cost Phila Jahlil Okafor…

Most of us have known about Okafor since his Junior year in High School… I remember reading scouting reports on THIS site by Many scouts that described Okafor’s as the "LOCK "1 pick in 2015 b/c he has the best low post game we (the scouts) have seen in 30 years – maybe ever!" I could not believe that last line b/c these scouts are Not prone to hyerbole… Okafor was Still the consensus #1 pick until Kentucky’s Karl Anthony Towns put on a low post disply against Notre Dame’s Miniature front court to rescue Kentucky in the Elite 8 NCAA Tourney game…

All year, Every scout I read or heard put Okafor #1 & Towns #2 until that night.. But even before they flip flopped & after – EVERY scout agreed that Okafor & Towns were BY FAR the top two talents & no one else was even close… Many scouts (b/c the Sixers had a chance to get the top pick) were asked who the Sixers should pick if they Landed the Top pick when they already had two blue chip prospect Centers & EVERY single scout & talent evaluatir that I personally heard or read said the same thing – "I don’t care how many Centers the Sixers have – there is NO WAY you pass on Towns or Okafor for ANYONE else in this draft…

And then for some reason in the weeks between the NCAA tourny & the Draft, Okafor’s game was attacked relentlessly… But I never paid attention b/c it reminded me of Andrew Luck being attacked before the NFL Draft – It Gets ratings… & then the ignorant public runs w/ it…

I watched that Boston / Phila game last night…. Other than Nerlens Noel (who was also Dominant for stretches) Phila had D-League players out there… Okafor ate Boston’s front court alive at BOTH ends… If Phila had even an Average NBA PG who could make entry passes Okafor could have hung 40+ on Boston – they had No answer for him… Stevens adjusted & forced those awful Phila guards to work under pressure so Okafor would have to go all the way out to the 3 point line & they would throw him the ball in a panic w/ 5 seconds left on the shot clock & Okafor had turn overs that were on his guards not him…

Boston scored 35 easy points in transition off turnovers & they easily beat phila.. But for anyone watching that game who knows basketball their reaction had to be the same as mine & it was "HOLY UCK! – Okafor & Noel are Dynamic! & what the Uck will this team do when Embiid returns to join them!?!? when Phila or Boston was in the half court at BOTH ends Noel & Okafor were Dominant from 18 feet in Boston could not stop them (especially Okafor) & on Defense No Boston Center could establish position b/c Okafor is just too strong & Noel is a human jumping jack roaming to block any shots…

I LUV Townms – I’m not down onhim – he looked great too… But Okafor is a Beast – I really want to see Embiid return but even if he doesn’t Noel & Okafor are going to be a real force in the paint for a Dozen years… & Wall is a Star – I think he needs another top player who can score to really do damage in the playoffs – preferably a consistent Low Post threat – but Wall is the real deal… in the NBA – the Draft is a crap shoot & there are a lot of Busts, but I say this all the time, if you want to contend for a Ring – you Must acquire that player in the Top 10 of the Draft b/c that is where ALL the Top, Top players on each time come from…. (so sorry for the long post – I swear I’m trying to shorten these things…)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 Yo wall is at least tied for the top spot. People forget what it means to be a point guard. Stephen benefits from having so many elite defenders he gets to focus solely on offense. Cp3 is still in my opinion number1 but he is 30. Russell just has to be consistent for me, shoot at least 44% overall 34% from 3,& have higher than a,2.5-1 assists to turnover ratio, then I will finally place him him in that company, I know its an unpopular opinion but its the truth as eye see it, & with no rings with one of tbe best rosters in the league each year & arguably the best 1-2 punch the past 3 years I stick too it. Wall to me is just so tenacious on d, & refuses to lose & still is ,1 of the 5 best passers regardless of position in the league. Yes he does still.need some improvement & consistency mainly in his perimeter jumper, but All things considered wall is my guy.

The wizards will truly go as far as wall takes them. I think.beam’s showing lastnight was big for wall, & the wiz. Still with wall, beal,& gortat is that enough? Someone said in one of the many conference playoff prediction on this site over the summer the wiz could miss the playoffs & I didn’t say anything, but truthfully when I look at the wiz on paper their team is average with 1 elite player & 2 good ones, could wall will.them into the playoffs? Yes, but no ariza, no pierce, Nene is older & his injuries more lagging, idk wiz fans better pray wall never gets tired.

 

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 Yo wall is at least tied for the top spot. People forget what it means to be a point guard. Stephen benefits from having so many elite defenders he gets to focus solely on offense. Cp3 is still in my opinion number1 but he is 30. Russell just has to be consistent for me, shoot at least 44% overall 34% from 3,& have higher than a,2.5-1 assists to turnover ratio, then I will finally place him him in that company, I know its an unpopular opinion but its the truth as eye see it, & with no rings with one of tbe best rosters in the league each year & arguably the best 1-2 punch the past 3 years I stick too it. Wall to me is just so tenacious on d, & refuses to lose & still is ,1 of the 5 best passers regardless of position in the league. Yes he does still.need some improvement & consistency mainly in his perimeter jumper, but All things considered wall is my guy.

The wizards will truly go as far as wall takes them. I think.beam’s showing lastnight was big for wall, & the wiz. Still with wall, beal,& gortat is that enough? Someone said in one of the many conference playoff prediction on this site over the summer the wiz could miss the playoffs & I didn’t say anything, but truthfully when I look at the wiz on paper their team is average with 1 elite player & 2 good ones, could wall will.them into the playoffs? Yes, but no ariza, no pierce, Nene is older & his injuries more lagging, idk wiz fans better pray wall never gets tired.

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 People keep overrating what Paul  Pierce meant to the Wizards, I’m not a Wizards fan but last season lots of Wizards fans that I’ve talked to wanted Paul Pierce benched mid-season. People that say’s Paul Pierce is a huge loss for the Wizards are the ones that only watched the final minute of 3 playoff games last postseason. You honestly believe the lost of Trevor Ariza really hurt the Wizards and Nene getting older hurt the Wizards. I remember just about 3 years ago people was saying the Wizards was dumb to trade for Trevor Ariza and the same year he wasn’t even starting. Nene is not even a main focal point for this Wizards team this year. 

The Wizards have the second best backcourt in the league, the 4th best point guard and a top 6 shooting guard. That alone should get them to the playoffs in the league. The Wizards play in the eastern conference so John Wall alone should lead them to the playoffs. Again, I’m not a Wizards fan, but it baffles me how disrespected the Wizards are getting on this site and some nationally. This team is the only team in the eastern conference the past 2 years to make it out of the second round. 

You mention that the Wizards only have 1 elite player and 2 good players so they should struggle to make the playoffs. I got a question, how many teams in the eastern conference have that? The Celtics, Pistons, Hornets, Raptors, Nets, and all the teams battling to make the playoffs beside the Pacers have an elite player (John Wall), a talent like Beal (can make a huge leap this year), and a center like Gortat.. 

It’s ashame that people acting like the Wizards are in the same discussion as the Magic, Pistons, Nets, Knicks, Pacers, and the teams that are battling to make the playoffs. The Wizards made the playoffs last year because of John Wall, not Paul Pierce. And Bradley Beal is not just a role player, he was one of the best players in the postseason last year. He was like the 5th or so youngers to have as many 20 point games in the playoffs. 

This team isn’t battling for a playoffs spot they are battling for the top 3 seed in the east.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 People keep overrating what Paul  Pierce meant to the Wizards, I’m not a Wizards fan but last season lots of Wizards fans that I’ve talked to wanted Paul Pierce benched mid-season. People that say’s Paul Pierce is a huge loss for the Wizards are the ones that only watched the final minute of 3 playoff games last postseason. You honestly believe the lost of Trevor Ariza really hurt the Wizards and Nene getting older hurt the Wizards. I remember just about 3 years ago people was saying the Wizards was dumb to trade for Trevor Ariza and the same year he wasn’t even starting. Nene is not even a main focal point for this Wizards team this year. 

The Wizards have the second best backcourt in the league, the 4th best point guard and a top 6 shooting guard. That alone should get them to the playoffs in the league. The Wizards play in the eastern conference so John Wall alone should lead them to the playoffs. Again, I’m not a Wizards fan, but it baffles me how disrespected the Wizards are getting on this site and some nationally. This team is the only team in the eastern conference the past 2 years to make it out of the second round. 

You mention that the Wizards only have 1 elite player and 2 good players so they should struggle to make the playoffs. I got a question, how many teams in the eastern conference have that? The Celtics, Pistons, Hornets, Raptors, Nets, and all the teams battling to make the playoffs beside the Pacers have an elite player (John Wall), a talent like Beal (can make a huge leap this year), and a center like Gortat.. 

It’s ashame that people acting like the Wizards are in the same discussion as the Magic, Pistons, Nets, Knicks, Pacers, and the teams that are battling to make the playoffs. The Wizards made the playoffs last year because of John Wall, not Paul Pierce. And Bradley Beal is not just a role player, he was one of the best players in the postseason last year. He was like the 5th or so youngers to have as many 20 point games in the playoffs. 

This team isn’t battling for a playoffs spot they are battling for the top 3 seed in the east.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 Okay top 3? Look anybody optimistic about what wall can do gets love from.me, but when you consider the roster of the bulls, cavs,& heat I think top 3 is flat out wrong plus in the regular season the past 2 seasons they struggle heavily against winnings teams.

Also you are starting too use that I talk to other teams fans like a lot when trying to boost your point, whether you are a fan of a team or not doesn’t make you any less or more right or wrong. Pierce was a solid scorer through the majority of the playoffs for the wiz. If you disagree that’s your fault. You say the wiz are the only eastern conference team to make it out of the 2nd round, pierce didn’t play well for them. Well wasn’t paul pierce’s big shot a big reason for them.making it out of the 2nd round? You usually make a point with 3 or 4 big paragraphs sometimes all that talking leads one into contradicting themselves. 

 

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 Okay top 3? Look anybody optimistic about what wall can do gets love from.me, but when you consider the roster of the bulls, cavs,& heat I think top 3 is flat out wrong plus in the regular season the past 2 seasons they struggle heavily against winnings teams.

Also you are starting too use that I talk to other teams fans like a lot when trying to boost your point, whether you are a fan of a team or not doesn’t make you any less or more right or wrong. Pierce was a solid scorer through the majority of the playoffs for the wiz. If you disagree that’s your fault. You say the wiz are the only eastern conference team to make it out of the 2nd round, pierce didn’t play well for them. Well wasn’t paul pierce’s big shot a big reason for them.making it out of the 2nd round? You usually make a point with 3 or 4 big paragraphs sometimes all that talking leads one into contradicting themselves. 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I AM TALKING ABOUT THE REGULAR SEASON. PUAL PIERCE POSTSEASON SUCCESS DOESN’T DICTATE WHAT THE WIZARDS DID IN THE REGULAR SEASON AND HOW HE PLAYED IN THE REGULAR SEASON. 

I clearly pointed out that Paul Pierce didn’t have as much of an impact as most people that never watched the Wizards play a single game would love to believe. I said the people that only saw what 3 games in the postseason which he hit a big shot would make it seem like that Paul Pierce was the Wizards number on scorer and he was the only reason why they made it out the second round and he was the only reason why they made it to the playoffs. 

I said they can BATTLE for the top 3 seed. It’s a long season and nobody knows what will happen.  I bet you didn’t know that Atlanta would have the top seed in the eastern conference. So stop trying to act like you know for sure that the Wizards cannot battle for a top 3 seed. And it still baffles me that people acting like the Wizards are some borderline playoff team. And this is THIS season, not the last two seasons. If we going off the past two season success and lack of success then Chicago will go through injuries and Miami won’t make to the playoffs.

 

And P.S. Paul Pierce is not the main reason the Wizards made it TO the second round. The Wizards domintated the whole entire series and Paul Pierce did have a great ending to game 4. John Wall, Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, and Marcin Gortat was all outstanding that series. They swept the Raptors and that wasn’t all on Paul Pierce one game in the series.

 

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I AM TALKING ABOUT THE REGULAR SEASON. PUAL PIERCE POSTSEASON SUCCESS DOESN’T DICTATE WHAT THE WIZARDS DID IN THE REGULAR SEASON AND HOW HE PLAYED IN THE REGULAR SEASON. 

I clearly pointed out that Paul Pierce didn’t have as much of an impact as most people that never watched the Wizards play a single game would love to believe. I said the people that only saw what 3 games in the postseason which he hit a big shot would make it seem like that Paul Pierce was the Wizards number on scorer and he was the only reason why they made it out the second round and he was the only reason why they made it to the playoffs. 

I said they can BATTLE for the top 3 seed. It’s a long season and nobody knows what will happen.  I bet you didn’t know that Atlanta would have the top seed in the eastern conference. So stop trying to act like you know for sure that the Wizards cannot battle for a top 3 seed. And it still baffles me that people acting like the Wizards are some borderline playoff team. And this is THIS season, not the last two seasons. If we going off the past two season success and lack of success then Chicago will go through injuries and Miami won’t make to the playoffs.

 

And P.S. Paul Pierce is not the main reason the Wizards made it TO the second round. The Wizards domintated the whole entire series and Paul Pierce did have a great ending to game 4. John Wall, Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, and Marcin Gortat was all outstanding that series. They swept the Raptors and that wasn’t all on Paul Pierce one game in the series.

 

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Also, I said Paul Pierce didn’t play that well in the REGULAR SEASON, not the playoffs. And you should get your fact straight and what I said before you try to belittle someone argument.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Also, I said Paul Pierce didn’t play that well in the REGULAR SEASON, not the playoffs. And you should get your fact straight and what I said before you try to belittle someone argument.

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 To your giant post and your 2nd one. I clearly said pierce shot was a big reason not the main one. Trust me I haven’t made your mistake "twice." Like how you said people who say pierce meant something significant, well to that effect only watched the last minutes of their,wiz, playoff games. Truthfully, do the wiz win that series without that his big shots maybe, but when you lose, the raptors, from a play in.the final.moments it demoralizes you, and that feeling can be lasting, so emotionally& mentally his shots did produce many reasons among many that helped them.into the 2nd round.

Why people keep giving you pluses for saying you said something when you clearly didnt. I realize you think you did, but no you didn’t. Done with this conversation and those who feed into your unapologetic errors.

 

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 To your giant post and your 2nd one. I clearly said pierce shot was a big reason not the main one. Trust me I haven’t made your mistake "twice." Like how you said people who say pierce meant something significant, well to that effect only watched the last minutes of their,wiz, playoff games. Truthfully, do the wiz win that series without that his big shots maybe, but when you lose, the raptors, from a play in.the final.moments it demoralizes you, and that feeling can be lasting, so emotionally& mentally his shots did produce many reasons among many that helped them.into the 2nd round.

Why people keep giving you pluses for saying you said something when you clearly didnt. I realize you think you did, but no you didn’t. Done with this conversation and those who feed into your unapologetic errors.

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 LOL. Now you acting like the Wizards will do what no team in the NBA playoffs history and lose a playoffs series when leading 3-0. And I was clearly talking about the REGULAR season and people acting like he have the same impact as John Wall. He was the Wizards 4th best player last season and 3rd in the playoffs. Don’t get it twisted and act like he was that big of a factor in the regular season. 

Yes, he made big shots in the playoffs. Yes, he was a factor in the playoffs. But, I was talking about regular season impact on my original post and that he wasn’t playing as good as people making it out to be in the regular season. 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 LOL. Now you acting like the Wizards will do what no team in the NBA playoffs history and lose a playoffs series when leading 3-0. And I was clearly talking about the REGULAR season and people acting like he have the same impact as John Wall. He was the Wizards 4th best player last season and 3rd in the playoffs. Don’t get it twisted and act like he was that big of a factor in the regular season. 

Yes, he made big shots in the playoffs. Yes, he was a factor in the playoffs. But, I was talking about regular season impact on my original post and that he wasn’t playing as good as people making it out to be in the regular season. 

 

[SubZeroParticipant]

You can’t knock Russell or anyone on the Thunder for not having won a championship yet. Ever since the Harden trade, we haven’t lost a playoff series in which KD, Russell, and Ibaka were all healthy

[SubZeroParticipant]

You can’t knock Russell or anyone on the Thunder for not having won a championship yet. Ever since the Harden trade, we haven’t lost a playoff series in which KD, Russell, and Ibaka were all healthy

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

Whoa, settle down. I like your enthusiasm, and as a Sixers’ fan I loved how Jah played last night, but let’s not forget it was 1 game. 2 years ago on opening night MCW almost had a quadruple-double against the Heat on opening night. I think Jah will be better than MCW by far, but 1 game is 1 game.

As for Wall ”probably going to go down as the best guard shot blocker in league history”. Just on the tip of my mind I can think of some better shot blocking guards:
John Wall – 1.4 (career BLK%)
Dwyane Wade – 2
MJ – 1.4 (throughout career. Including Wizards years)
K.J. McDaniels – 4.2
Eric Bledsoe – 1.5

But that’s just me being petty.

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

Whoa, settle down. I like your enthusiasm, and as a Sixers’ fan I loved how Jah played last night, but let’s not forget it was 1 game. 2 years ago on opening night MCW almost had a quadruple-double against the Heat on opening night. I think Jah will be better than MCW by far, but 1 game is 1 game.

As for Wall ”probably going to go down as the best guard shot blocker in league history”. Just on the tip of my mind I can think of some better shot blocking guards:
John Wall – 1.4 (career BLK%)
Dwyane Wade – 2
MJ – 1.4 (throughout career. Including Wizards years)
K.J. McDaniels – 4.2
Eric Bledsoe – 1.5

But that’s just me being petty.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Jahlil Okafor is a far better talent than MCW ever will be. MCW performance his rookie year is far different than Jahlil Okafor debut. MCW statistics was mostly due to the fact that the 76ers played faced paced game. Jahlil Okafor is actually using skill to score, not just fast break offense.

Your argument with the Wall shot blocking went down hill when you mention KJ McDaniels when he only played in like 5 games his whole career, you use a statistic that will suit your argument, and I never said he is the best shot blocking guard ever, I clealry said "he could be".

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Jahlil Okafor is a far better talent than MCW ever will be. MCW performance his rookie year is far different than Jahlil Okafor debut. MCW statistics was mostly due to the fact that the 76ers played faced paced game. Jahlil Okafor is actually using skill to score, not just fast break offense.

Your argument with the Wall shot blocking went down hill when you mention KJ McDaniels when he only played in like 5 games his whole career, you use a statistic that will suit your argument, and I never said he is the best shot blocking guard ever, I clealry said "he could be".

 

 

 

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

I was agreeing with you that Okafor is a way better prospect than MCW. My point was that a 1 game career is too small a sample size. Same way you shouldn’t have overreacted during his subpar preseason, you shouldn’t during his 1 game pro career a few days later.

As for Wall, I copy pasted what you said. Didn’t change a single word. I can make a case pretty easily why all of the players I suggested are/were better shot blockers than Wall-

Wade – same height as Wall and during his first 5 seasons had a 1.8 BLK% compared to Wall’s 1.4 (during his 5 seasons up until now)
Jordan – also had 1.8 BLK% during his first 5 seasons
K.J. McDaniels – even though he played only a season until now, I would think that someone like you, who just argued Okafor’s high school days would appreciate a players unique skill set. KJ is far far less a complete player than Wall (far, far, far less), but as a shot blocking guard HE may be the best ever. He definitely won’t get as many min. to show his skill, but in 3 years (=2,287 minutes played) of college he 8.5 BLK%!! That is compared to Wall’s lone year (=1,288 min.) of 1.5 BLK% in Kentucky.
Bledsoe – probably the best comparison since he’s a point guard. At 6’1 his 1.5 BLK% is more impressive than 6’4 Wall’s 1.4 BLK%

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

I was agreeing with you that Okafor is a way better prospect than MCW. My point was that a 1 game career is too small a sample size. Same way you shouldn’t have overreacted during his subpar preseason, you shouldn’t during his 1 game pro career a few days later.

As for Wall, I copy pasted what you said. Didn’t change a single word. I can make a case pretty easily why all of the players I suggested are/were better shot blockers than Wall-

Wade – same height as Wall and during his first 5 seasons had a 1.8 BLK% compared to Wall’s 1.4 (during his 5 seasons up until now)
Jordan – also had 1.8 BLK% during his first 5 seasons
K.J. McDaniels – even though he played only a season until now, I would think that someone like you, who just argued Okafor’s high school days would appreciate a players unique skill set. KJ is far far less a complete player than Wall (far, far, far less), but as a shot blocking guard HE may be the best ever. He definitely won’t get as many min. to show his skill, but in 3 years (=2,287 minutes played) of college he 8.5 BLK%!! That is compared to Wall’s lone year (=1,288 min.) of 1.5 BLK% in Kentucky.
Bledsoe – probably the best comparison since he’s a point guard. At 6’1 his 1.5 BLK% is more impressive than 6’4 Wall’s 1.4 BLK%

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 Dude you look to argue too quickly, he agreed with you on jah going to be better than mcw, plus you clearly said wall is probably going to go down as the best shot blocking guard in history. Talking bout Casey, 

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 Dude you look to argue too quickly, he agreed with you on jah going to be better than mcw, plus you clearly said wall is probably going to go down as the best shot blocking guard in history. Talking bout Casey, 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 LOL. Again, with you don’t know what you are talking about. We were arguing about Jahlil Okafor being a small sample size and MCW also had a great rookie year. I’ve countered that it was different. So, we disagreed on that point. LOL. 

I clearly said John Wall COULD be the best shot blocker of all time for a guard, I never said that he WAS the best shot blocker of all time. I believe you read things a little to fast because it seem like you skip over some words that is clearly right in front of you. If you don’t know about a projection/assumption to making a fact then that’s on you. 

Let me simple it down for you. I was saying John Wall has a chance to become the best shot blocking guard. I wasn’t saying he was the best shot blocking guard of all time. LOL. 

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 LOL. Again, with you don’t know what you are talking about. We were arguing about Jahlil Okafor being a small sample size and MCW also had a great rookie year. I’ve countered that it was different. So, we disagreed on that point. LOL. 

I clearly said John Wall COULD be the best shot blocker of all time for a guard, I never said that he WAS the best shot blocker of all time. I believe you read things a little to fast because it seem like you skip over some words that is clearly right in front of you. If you don’t know about a projection/assumption to making a fact then that’s on you. 

Let me simple it down for you. I was saying John Wall has a chance to become the best shot blocking guard. I wasn’t saying he was the best shot blocking guard of all time. LOL. 

 

 

 

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 You know if you stop, " was saying" instead of just saying you wouldn’t look like such an argumentative guy. Maybe its the fact you have no conviction as a man when you talk you have to keep backtracking so much.

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 You know if you stop, " was saying" instead of just saying you wouldn’t look like such an argumentative guy. Maybe its the fact you have no conviction as a man when you talk you have to keep backtracking so much.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 It was clear as day what I’ve said. I’m about to quote what I said on the original post "He’s probably going to go down as the best shot blocking guard of all time". The quote wasn’t "John Wall is the greatest shot blocking point guard of all time". 

Probably does not mean it’s for certain that John Wall will be the best shot blocking point guard. Probably is ALMOST certain that John Wall will be the best guard shot blocker of all time. I do believe when it all said and done he will  be the best shot blocking guard of all time. In my statement I nowhere near said he is already the best.

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 It was clear as day what I’ve said. I’m about to quote what I said on the original post "He’s probably going to go down as the best shot blocking guard of all time". The quote wasn’t "John Wall is the greatest shot blocking point guard of all time". 

Probably does not mean it’s for certain that John Wall will be the best shot blocking point guard. Probably is ALMOST certain that John Wall will be the best guard shot blocker of all time. I do believe when it all said and done he will  be the best shot blocking guard of all time. In my statement I nowhere near said he is already the best.

 

[ZouldiersParticipant]

 Lets hope Jahlil Okafor plays with that kind of consistency every game. One of my fave rookies this year besides Winslow. Sixers got a gem in him.

[ZouldiersParticipant]

 Lets hope Jahlil Okafor plays with that kind of consistency every game. One of my fave rookies this year besides Winslow. Sixers got a gem in him.

[omphalosParticipant]

 To be fair, Okafor was feasting on a useless Boston frontcourt. Nobody on that Celtics roster fits the mould as a low-post defender to be reckoned with or to even hold their own.

Let’s see how he goes against someone who can hold position properly and match him in size before we anoint him the saviour of the franchise.

As far as Wall is concerned, he joins Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis as the two super-hyped draft prospects who actually lived up to expectations in the past few years.

Definitely a franchise player and I don’t think having to defend is going to hurt him because he isn’t relied upon to be the team’s top scorer – that’s where Beal comes in.

He’s a freak athlete and I’m just glad he put his knee problems behind him by switching from those awful Reebok shoes.

 

 

 

 

 

[omphalosParticipant]

 To be fair, Okafor was feasting on a useless Boston frontcourt. Nobody on that Celtics roster fits the mould as a low-post defender to be reckoned with or to even hold their own.

Let’s see how he goes against someone who can hold position properly and match him in size before we anoint him the saviour of the franchise.

As far as Wall is concerned, he joins Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis as the two super-hyped draft prospects who actually lived up to expectations in the past few years.

Definitely a franchise player and I don’t think having to defend is going to hurt him because he isn’t relied upon to be the team’s top scorer – that’s where Beal comes in.

He’s a freak athlete and I’m just glad he put his knee problems behind him by switching from those awful Reebok shoes.

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 John Wall has got a nice mix of players around him with younger guys like Beal, Porter as well as a very solid veteran frontcourt and bench. If the Wizards are going to really push the very top teams out East then Wall may need to step it up to the next level scoringwise and maybe push to be a legit All NBA Team contender.

The Wizards would look a solid bet to have a winning season and make the play offs but I’d still feel that someone like the Cavs would just be too strong for them.

Okafor has looked very solid in his couple of games so far and you know almost what you can expect from him. He’ll get a lot of shots but it also makes you wonder how good he can be when he gets more floor spacing and a top level PG to create for him.

I can see him being a leading contender for ROY alongside KAT.

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 John Wall has got a nice mix of players around him with younger guys like Beal, Porter as well as a very solid veteran frontcourt and bench. If the Wizards are going to really push the very top teams out East then Wall may need to step it up to the next level scoringwise and maybe push to be a legit All NBA Team contender.

The Wizards would look a solid bet to have a winning season and make the play offs but I’d still feel that someone like the Cavs would just be too strong for them.

Okafor has looked very solid in his couple of games so far and you know almost what you can expect from him. He’ll get a lot of shots but it also makes you wonder how good he can be when he gets more floor spacing and a top level PG to create for him.

I can see him being a leading contender for ROY alongside KAT.

 

 

 

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