[caray12Participant]

 John Wall was invited to the USA basketball camp and Blake Griffin had withdrawn from the camp..

Blake Griffin withdrawn from USA because he wants to focus on improving for the upcoming season.

I was shocked to see John Wall name not mention in the first place when they announced the 19 man roster for the USA camp. Marc Stein wrote that they wanted to see if he can play at full capacity after a long season. And they wanted John Wall in campfor weeks.

I believe John Wall is very underrated and among the point guard group headed to the camp John Wall is easily the best defender, passer, and floor leader. I believe he haves a real shot at making the team if given the chance to show his skill. I don’t want them to play him off the ball he needs the ball in his hands and he will make the players around him better and get them open looks. 

Thoughts…..

[bigtymer32Participant]

 once john wall it’s a consistent jump shot.he will be even more hard to guard.will be tough to make the squad there deep at point guard.

[bigtymer32Participant]

 once john wall it’s a consistent jump shot.he will be even more hard to guard.will be tough to make the squad there deep at point guard.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

I’m not sure if he is underated or not, but I think his biggest problem when it comes to international basketball rules is that he is not a very good shooter. It can hurt you in the NBA game, but the inability to play a true zone doesn’t impact a guy with Wall’s athleticism in the same way.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

I’m not sure if he is underated or not, but I think his biggest problem when it comes to international basketball rules is that he is not a very good shooter. It can hurt you in the NBA game, but the inability to play a true zone doesn’t impact a guy with Wall’s athleticism in the same way.

[caray12Participant]

 John Wall shot over 35% from downtown. And you need someone to distribute the ball. You can’t build a team that everybody basically have the same skill set. Damien Lillard, Kyrie Irving, and Stephan Curry basically clones. They all practically shooters and they don’t have a true past first point guard that will get other players there shot. International games is not all about shooting if so Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook wouldn’t make the team in 2010. Team USA always had point guards that wasn’t partially good 3 point shooters. You can go to Magic Johnson, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd before the jump shot, and Chris Paul who’s not a great 3 point shooter. Chris Paul and John Wall practically shot the same from downtown.

[caray12Participant]

 John Wall shot over 35% from downtown. And you need someone to distribute the ball. You can’t build a team that everybody basically have the same skill set. Damien Lillard, Kyrie Irving, and Stephan Curry basically clones. They all practically shooters and they don’t have a true past first point guard that will get other players there shot. International games is not all about shooting if so Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook wouldn’t make the team in 2010. Team USA always had point guards that wasn’t partially good 3 point shooters. You can go to Magic Johnson, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd before the jump shot, and Chris Paul who’s not a great 3 point shooter. Chris Paul and John Wall practically shot the same from downtown.

[phila9012Participant]

 I don’t understand why people keep saying wall is not a good shooter. He shot pretty decent last year. If you are as athletic as he just needs an average jumpshot to be a great player. Of all the guys there I think he should start just because he plays defense compared to the other guys. Irving, lillard, and curry struggle to guard back up PGs in the NBA let alone starting PGs

[phila9012Participant]

 I don’t understand why people keep saying wall is not a good shooter. He shot pretty decent last year. If you are as athletic as he just needs an average jumpshot to be a great player. Of all the guys there I think he should start just because he plays defense compared to the other guys. Irving, lillard, and curry struggle to guard back up PGs in the NBA let alone starting PGs

[drpg913Participant]

No way should John Wall start over Steph Curry. Curry is a better passer and shooter that’s before I even get to former league MVP Derrick Rose

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

Wall has averaged more than 8 assists in his career, and he began his career with sh*t for teammates.Curry averages 6. Wall is the better passer, and by far the better defender.

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

Wall has averaged more than 8 assists in his career, and he began his career with sh*t for teammates.Curry averages 6. Wall is the better passer, and by far the better defender.

[drpg913Participant]

No way should John Wall start over Steph Curry. Curry is a better passer and shooter that’s before I even get to former league MVP Derrick Rose

[tuck243Participant]

He’s improved during the season and had one game versus the Pacers in the playoffs when he shot well…  Outside of that, his shooting isn’t good yet*…   Go look at his playoff shooting percentages…  Those are TERRIBLE numbers for ANY player…   He has a long way to go before anyone should consider him a good shooter…   Which even if you look at his regular season percentages, its decent, not great…   A lot of people mention Kyrie having a down season and he shot terrible, then turn around and say John Wall had a great year, shot GREAT!!  LOL…  Kyrie still shot better than him in a down season.   I think people need to say he shot "better", but it’s still not consistent enough…  

 

 

[thricethefunParticipant]

 Shooting is just one part of basketball man. Wall is better than Kyrie at literally every other aspect of the game.

[tuck243Participant]

People say than Kyrie had a bad shooting year…  But give John Wall love for his "upped" year…  I understand that going to the playoffs is a must to be called a superstar… John Wall did that… The issue here is that people don’t look at the underlying issue with him…  It was hard for him to make shots in the playoffs…  Which for him isn’t that bad because he can look to facilatate the offense… But he didn’t do a good job doing that either…  I need to see more from him…  

 

 

Is that enough for me to think he’s a better player than Kyrie?  No…  Kyrie scores too easy and can be virtually unstoppable regardless of how many people are covering him…  Kyrie need to do a better job at getting his teammates involved, but I think that’s an issue for him because he’s THAT good at scoring…   I’m afraid John Wall’s assists numbers are only that high because he lacks confidence sometimes and prefers to defer to other players…  We’ve seen this in the Pacers series…  I think he will get better, but with LeBron back in Cleveland, Kyrie’s numbers should improve dramatically…

 

[tuck243Participant]

People say than Kyrie had a bad shooting year…  But give John Wall love for his "upped" year…  I understand that going to the playoffs is a must to be called a superstar… John Wall did that… The issue here is that people don’t look at the underlying issue with him…  It was hard for him to make shots in the playoffs…  Which for him isn’t that bad because he can look to facilatate the offense… But he didn’t do a good job doing that either…  I need to see more from him…  

 

 

Is that enough for me to think he’s a better player than Kyrie?  No…  Kyrie scores too easy and can be virtually unstoppable regardless of how many people are covering him…  Kyrie need to do a better job at getting his teammates involved, but I think that’s an issue for him because he’s THAT good at scoring…   I’m afraid John Wall’s assists numbers are only that high because he lacks confidence sometimes and prefers to defer to other players…  We’ve seen this in the Pacers series…  I think he will get better, but with LeBron back in Cleveland, Kyrie’s numbers should improve dramatically…

 

[thricethefunParticipant]

 Shooting is just one part of basketball man. Wall is better than Kyrie at literally every other aspect of the game.

[tuck243Participant]

He’s improved during the season and had one game versus the Pacers in the playoffs when he shot well…  Outside of that, his shooting isn’t good yet*…   Go look at his playoff shooting percentages…  Those are TERRIBLE numbers for ANY player…   He has a long way to go before anyone should consider him a good shooter…   Which even if you look at his regular season percentages, its decent, not great…   A lot of people mention Kyrie having a down season and he shot terrible, then turn around and say John Wall had a great year, shot GREAT!!  LOL…  Kyrie still shot better than him in a down season.   I think people need to say he shot "better", but it’s still not consistent enough…  

 

 

[doubledribblerParticipant]

No one said it is all about shooting, but there is a reason Rondo had no chance of making the team when he was up for it. Wall is not on the same level as Westbrook and pre-injury Rose.  Wall was also an ok shooter from downtown. 35.1% is slightly below league average, even then he has only done that for one season. Look at his playoff shooting percentages across the board. They plumetted. It is not a criticism in his game. I think he has some elite skills and is improving, but you are limited in what you can take for your roster so having not only too many guys that need the ball, but too many guys that are not great shooters becomes an issue. At least some of these guys you can get away with playing off the ball.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

No one said it is all about shooting, but there is a reason Rondo had no chance of making the team when he was up for it. Wall is not on the same level as Westbrook and pre-injury Rose.  Wall was also an ok shooter from downtown. 35.1% is slightly below league average, even then he has only done that for one season. Look at his playoff shooting percentages across the board. They plumetted. It is not a criticism in his game. I think he has some elite skills and is improving, but you are limited in what you can take for your roster so having not only too many guys that need the ball, but too many guys that are not great shooters becomes an issue. At least some of these guys you can get away with playing off the ball.

[Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipant]

 My thinking is, if he makes the team it won’t be for his shot. He’ll be this teams Russell Westbrook/Dwyane Wade. He’ll come off of the bench, wreak havoc on defense, run the floor, and just use his athleticism, length and energy to change the game. 

[Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipant]

 My thinking is, if he makes the team it won’t be for his shot. He’ll be this teams Russell Westbrook/Dwyane Wade. He’ll come off of the bench, wreak havoc on defense, run the floor, and just use his athleticism, length and energy to change the game. 

[thricethefunParticipant]

Imagine John Wall and Blake Griffin on the same team.

[thricethefunParticipant]

Imagine John Wall and Blake Griffin on the same team.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Such. Great. Floor spacing.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Such. Great. Floor spacing.

[JordoParticipant]

I still remember that crazy alley oop he threw to griffin in the rookie game. 

[JordoParticipant]

I still remember that crazy alley oop he threw to griffin in the rookie game. 

[omphalosParticipant]

I’m surprised Wall was called up after Rondo was snubbed for so long given how similar their skillsets are.

But happy for Wall, if the 2010 world championship is any indication, all the guys on this team are going to have great seasons next year.

 

 

[omphalosParticipant]

I’m surprised Wall was called up after Rondo was snubbed for so long given how similar their skillsets are.

But happy for Wall, if the 2010 world championship is any indication, all the guys on this team are going to have great seasons next year.

 

 

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

Rondo has never been snubbed, he has gone on record, as with the Big 3 when they were all together in Boston, saying that they arent interested in playing in National teams.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

Rondo has never been snubbed, he has gone on record, as with the Big 3 when they were all together in Boston, saying that they arent interested in playing in National teams.

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

 Long over due. I’m just glad they’re finally giving him the opportunity, considering guys who’ve accomplished much less have given a shot at making the club in years past.

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

 Long over due. I’m just glad they’re finally giving him the opportunity, considering guys who’ve accomplished much less have given a shot at making the club in years past.

[drpg913Participant]

Out of the point guards that they have chosen to play for the team which of them have accomplished much less? 

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

Steph Curry hadn’t accomplished much by 2010 (He really blew up as a pro in 2012-2013) but he was given a shot and even made the club. For Wall not to be included in the original group this year was comical in my opinion.

[drpg913Participant]

 But he was the best shooter on that team by far. Wall isn’t the best at anything. 

[drpg913Participant]

 But he was the best shooter on that team by far. Wall isn’t the best at anything. 

[tuck243Participant]

Missing the playoffs every year and being injured during majority of it?

Or having one playoff season and shooting 36% FG and 21% 3P? Beal, Nene, Ariza, and Gortat carried his a$$ in the playoffs…

If anyone have something to prove its him…   

[tuck243Participant]

Missing the playoffs every year and being injured during majority of it?

Or having one playoff season and shooting 36% FG and 21% 3P? Beal, Nene, Ariza, and Gortat carried his a$$ in the playoffs…

If anyone have something to prove its him…   

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

Steph Curry hadn’t accomplished much by 2010 (He really blew up as a pro in 2012-2013) but he was given a shot and even made the club. For Wall not to be included in the original group this year was comical in my opinion.

[drpg913Participant]

Out of the point guards that they have chosen to play for the team which of them have accomplished much less? 

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