[caray12Participant]

 I read a post earlier stating he needs to get a jump shot to reach another level to be a superstar. In my opinion there are only two superstars in the league in LeBron James and Kevin Durant. Kobe Bryant and Derrick Rose had fell off due to injuries and/or age. I believe Anthony Davis is about to become a superstar in this coming season. 

Now I’m going back to John Wall. I believe he’s the 3rd best overall point guard in the league behind Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook. Experts going to rank John Wall as a top 5 point guard in the league and a top 15 and maybe top 10 player when the ESPN annual top 300 players or so comes out. And and lot of websites have John Wall as a top 5 point guard and top 15 player in this league ( bleacherreport.com for starters ). I hate when people say you need to have a jump shot too be great and go to the next level in term of level of stardom. That statement isn’t accurate or even true. LeBron James didn’t have a jump shot since 2 years ago and he still don’t have a reliable jump shot. So did Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Gary Payton, Dominique Wilkins, Scottie Pippen, Jason Kidd ( for most part of his career ), and plenty more. The term " needs a jump shot " is getting overused and jump shots are now overrated.

People criticize John Wall jump shot but fail to realize that he have improved his jump shot since his rookie year. And people say he have are bad jump shot but people fail to realize that he shot 35 percent from the three point line. That percentage was on par with Kyrie Irving, Paul George, James Harden, and LeBron James. 

Another part of John Wall game that people always try to criticize is his decision making skills. Yes he led the league I’m giveaways. But people fail to realize that Stephan Curry was a close second (1 less turnover), and James Harden, LeBron James, and Kevin Durant rounded out the top 5 in turnovers. So that’s no big deal because he led the NBA in total assist.

Today, little kids tend to be in love with the 3 point shot and thinks that’s the end and lol be all to become an del great player. Same goes with the handling the basketball and scoring. People don’t like players that have all around games. On this website people seem to like the Kyrie Irving, Damien Lillard, Stephen Curry, and Kevin Love type of players that have flashy games and have a 3 point shot.

Overall, having a 3 point point shot and scoring is not the end all be all of being a great basketball. You can be great without that skill. And real basketball fans know that and the younger generation do not know that.

 

 

 

 

 

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

I would add Dwight and Melo as superstars.

Dwight led the magic to the finals beating Lebron in the east (people tend to forget about that) and melo is a beast. 

 

[drpg913Participant]

Everbody tends to forget about that. But it def happened and the Cavs were the favorites. 

[drpg913Participant]

Everbody tends to forget about that. But it def happened and the Cavs were the favorites. 

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

I would add Dwight and Melo as superstars.

Dwight led the magic to the finals beating Lebron in the east (people tend to forget about that) and melo is a beast. 

 

[evangelion79Participant]

 Sure there are superstars that didn’t need a jumpshot. But most elevated thier game to much greater heights when they developed one. The last shot of the game is normally some type of jump shot. I remember seeing a video last year about how Carmelo Anthony was 1 for his last 17 in clutch shot attempts. Well guess what.. Most of those last second shots were mid range jump shots. Had he made those it would have been the difference in them making the playoffs. Also if you look at superstars like Kevin Durant and Dirk Nowitzki, they’ve made a ton of late jump shots in thier career. Thier jump shots are nearly unguardable and it’s been a huge asset in thier careers.

Coincidentally, Dallas was a bubble team for the playoffs most of last year and Dirk put a long range jumper at the buzzer right in Melo’s eye last yr. late in the season and Dallas ended up making the playoffs. 

I’m a huge john wall fan and I want him to be a superstar. But calling the jumpshot underrated is in excusable.  Maybe I’m just old school. But I know if you have a consistent jumpshot that is hard to guard and you can hit it off balance, falling back, forward, wide open or hand in your face or whatever. It’s as good of a shot as any out there..

[caray12Participant]

 Dirk Nowiski is not a superstar.

I didn’t say players don’t need a jump shot. I said it’s overrated in player evaluation.  Most fans go off saying one is better than the other. I won’t rate a player solely based on if one is a better jump shooter. 

 

[evangelion79Participant]

Dirk has been a superstar for many years. Maybe not the last 2 yrs but he has had a superstar career.

[caray12Participant]

 He’s not a superstar and he never was a superstar. He was never in the same level of player as LeBron James, Kevin Durant, and Kobe Bryant.

[drpg913Participant]

 You do realize that Dirk is a league MVP, a Finals MVP and a multi All-NBA teamer don’t you? Also he’s led his team to 50+ wins a season every year except 3(1 year was a lockout shortened year and another he won 49) since 2000. Dirk has been a superstar the Majority of his career.

[drpg913Participant]

 You do realize that Dirk is a league MVP, a Finals MVP and a multi All-NBA teamer don’t you? Also he’s led his team to 50+ wins a season every year except 3(1 year was a lockout shortened year and another he won 49) since 2000. Dirk has been a superstar the Majority of his career.

[caray12Participant]

 But that don’t mean he’s a franchise player by any means. He’s a star player and and hall of fame player but he can’t come to and my team and make them contenders instantly like what LeBron James can do and Kevin Durant.

[caray12Participant]

 But that don’t mean he’s a franchise player by any means. He’s a star player and and hall of fame player but he can’t come to and my team and make them contenders instantly like what LeBron James can do and Kevin Durant.

[fundamentalsforfunParticipant]

Dirk has been the cornerstone of the Mavericks franchsie for the past decade. To say he isnt their franchise player is a pretty ridiculous. As has been said he is an MVP and All-NBA player with a championship and the Dallas teams have been built around him for years. You cant really ask for more than that from a team building perspective. Plus, why do you think that the Cav’s just traded for Love, because whilst they may be a good team with LeBron (especially in the East), they are not instant contenders with just him. im not trying to say dirk is on Lebron’s level, just that you cant have an instant contender with just one player coming to your team. 

[fundamentalsforfunParticipant]

Dirk has been the cornerstone of the Mavericks franchsie for the past decade. To say he isnt their franchise player is a pretty ridiculous. As has been said he is an MVP and All-NBA player with a championship and the Dallas teams have been built around him for years. You cant really ask for more than that from a team building perspective. Plus, why do you think that the Cav’s just traded for Love, because whilst they may be a good team with LeBron (especially in the East), they are not instant contenders with just him. im not trying to say dirk is on Lebron’s level, just that you cant have an instant contender with just one player coming to your team. 

[caray12Participant]

 LeBron James led a team filled with bench players and d league players to the finals. 

I never said he wasn’t a star. All I said he’s not a superstar. People throw that word out so loosely.

 

[caray12Participant]

 LeBron James led a team filled with bench players and d league players to the finals. 

I never said he wasn’t a star. All I said he’s not a superstar. People throw that word out so loosely.

 

[benny15Participant]

well if youre gona raise that, how much stronger was Dirk’s supporting cast in 2006 when he brought the mavs to the finals and lost? taking a quick look into their supporting cast, can you really say that Larry Hughes, Ilgauskus, Drew Gooden, Eric Snow and Varejao, were much worse than Jason Terry, Dampier, Josh Howard, Marquis Daniels and Jerry Stackhouse?

given that dirk had better scorers, but lebron had better defenders. and given their coaches at each time they went to the play-offs, its understandable why the role players matched with their stars reflected their strengths. not discrediting what lebron did, it was amazing given that cast of players. but dirk did something very remarkable as well. and its not like his team were heavy favorites or star studded

 

[benny15Participant]

well if youre gona raise that, how much stronger was Dirk’s supporting cast in 2006 when he brought the mavs to the finals and lost? taking a quick look into their supporting cast, can you really say that Larry Hughes, Ilgauskus, Drew Gooden, Eric Snow and Varejao, were much worse than Jason Terry, Dampier, Josh Howard, Marquis Daniels and Jerry Stackhouse?

given that dirk had better scorers, but lebron had better defenders. and given their coaches at each time they went to the play-offs, its understandable why the role players matched with their stars reflected their strengths. not discrediting what lebron did, it was amazing given that cast of players. but dirk did something very remarkable as well. and its not like his team were heavy favorites or star studded

 

[caray12Participant]

 He’s not a superstar and he never was a superstar. He was never in the same level of player as LeBron James, Kevin Durant, and Kobe Bryant.

[evangelion79Participant]

Dirk has been a superstar for many years. Maybe not the last 2 yrs but he has had a superstar career.

[caray12Participant]

 Dirk Nowiski is not a superstar.

I didn’t say players don’t need a jump shot. I said it’s overrated in player evaluation.  Most fans go off saying one is better than the other. I won’t rate a player solely based on if one is a better jump shooter. 

 

[evangelion79Participant]

 Sure there are superstars that didn’t need a jumpshot. But most elevated thier game to much greater heights when they developed one. The last shot of the game is normally some type of jump shot. I remember seeing a video last year about how Carmelo Anthony was 1 for his last 17 in clutch shot attempts. Well guess what.. Most of those last second shots were mid range jump shots. Had he made those it would have been the difference in them making the playoffs. Also if you look at superstars like Kevin Durant and Dirk Nowitzki, they’ve made a ton of late jump shots in thier career. Thier jump shots are nearly unguardable and it’s been a huge asset in thier careers.

Coincidentally, Dallas was a bubble team for the playoffs most of last year and Dirk put a long range jumper at the buzzer right in Melo’s eye last yr. late in the season and Dallas ended up making the playoffs. 

I’m a huge john wall fan and I want him to be a superstar. But calling the jumpshot underrated is in excusable.  Maybe I’m just old school. But I know if you have a consistent jumpshot that is hard to guard and you can hit it off balance, falling back, forward, wide open or hand in your face or whatever. It’s as good of a shot as any out there..

[ahuang16Participant]

 Going to agree with that statement.  But I notice when people make lists, it all depends on preference.  For me, I like complete players that are strong on defense too, which is why Wall is better than Curry, Irving, and Lillard in my eyes.

[ahuang16Participant]

 Going to agree with that statement.  But I notice when people make lists, it all depends on preference.  For me, I like complete players that are strong on defense too, which is why Wall is better than Curry, Irving, and Lillard in my eyes.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 3rd best behind Paul and Westbrook?  Ever heard of Steph Curry?  Yeah, Curry is clearly ahead of Wall.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 3rd best behind Paul and Westbrook?  Ever heard of Steph Curry?  Yeah, Curry is clearly ahead of Wall.

[caray12Participant]

Stephan Curry is a horrible defender and I view defense as half of the game. I said John Wall is the third best point. Stephan Curry is a better offensive point guard but he probably the worst defensive point guard in the league. 

I don’t like it when people think players are the better players because they are exiting to watch and that they can shoot the ball. I judge players on their all around play. Like passing, rebounding, defending, and plenty more. 

Why do you believe Stephan Curry is better than John Wall?

[caray12Participant]

Stephan Curry is a horrible defender and I view defense as half of the game. I said John Wall is the third best point. Stephan Curry is a better offensive point guard but he probably the worst defensive point guard in the league. 

I don’t like it when people think players are the better players because they are exiting to watch and that they can shoot the ball. I judge players on their all around play. Like passing, rebounding, defending, and plenty more. 

Why do you believe Stephan Curry is better than John Wall?

[drpg913Participant]

 He’s a far better Shooter/scorer and its not even close. He’s as good a distributor and his rebounding numbers are equal. In actuality Statiscally Curry compares to Wall in just about every category with the exception of points where he is pretty far ahead in. No GM in the league would take Wall instead of Curry at this point in their careers. 

A player with Curry’s shooting ability just changes the whole geometry of the floor. he must be accounted for at all times. If you switched Curry with Wall the Warriors might not make the playoffs in the West but the Wizards would probably when atleast 5 more games in the East.

[drpg913Participant]

 He’s a far better Shooter/scorer and its not even close. He’s as good a distributor and his rebounding numbers are equal. In actuality Statiscally Curry compares to Wall in just about every category with the exception of points where he is pretty far ahead in. No GM in the league would take Wall instead of Curry at this point in their careers. 

A player with Curry’s shooting ability just changes the whole geometry of the floor. he must be accounted for at all times. If you switched Curry with Wall the Warriors might not make the playoffs in the West but the Wizards would probably when atleast 5 more games in the East.

[caray12Participant]

 I don’t base nothing on statistics. Stephan Curry gets similar rebounds and assist because they run a fast past style of offense. Leading to more opportunities to get extra assist and rebounds. John Wall is the better facilitator and rebounder and it’s not even close if to ask me. If you ask me who will out rebound one another I will go with John Wall. John Wall actually makes his teammates better, which Stephan Curry does not. Stephan Curry assist numbers went up when they got Mark Jackson, Klay Thompson,  David Lee, and the rest of the squad. His assist numbers went up with the talent given to him which mean he doesn’t make players better and he needs great teammates to make him look great. John Wall was doing that when he had ball hogs, players with low iq, and felons on his team in Javale McGee, Nick Young, Gilbert Arenas,  and more.

Like I stated in the original post that all you got is that " player x is a better shooter/scorer than John Wall " and you proved my point by saying he’s a better shooter. You didn’t mention his defense at all and for that I know that you don’t know anything but this alge of basketball. I rest my case with you for you pointing out that Stephan Curry is a better shooter than John Wall and he’s equal or John Wall is better at everything else.

 

[caray12Participant]

 I don’t base nothing on statistics. Stephan Curry gets similar rebounds and assist because they run a fast past style of offense. Leading to more opportunities to get extra assist and rebounds. John Wall is the better facilitator and rebounder and it’s not even close if to ask me. If you ask me who will out rebound one another I will go with John Wall. John Wall actually makes his teammates better, which Stephan Curry does not. Stephan Curry assist numbers went up when they got Mark Jackson, Klay Thompson,  David Lee, and the rest of the squad. His assist numbers went up with the talent given to him which mean he doesn’t make players better and he needs great teammates to make him look great. John Wall was doing that when he had ball hogs, players with low iq, and felons on his team in Javale McGee, Nick Young, Gilbert Arenas,  and more.

Like I stated in the original post that all you got is that " player x is a better shooter/scorer than John Wall " and you proved my point by saying he’s a better shooter. You didn’t mention his defense at all and for that I know that you don’t know anything but this alge of basketball. I rest my case with you for you pointing out that Stephan Curry is a better shooter than John Wall and he’s equal or John Wall is better at everything else.

 

[drpg913Participant]

I don’t get what the fascination with John Wall is. He’s def not a top 3 point guard in the league. He has never been as good as Derrick Rose. Hell Jrue Holiday was an All-Star before he was. But anytime you say something about him maybe being slightly above average people go crazy on here and you cn mention defense but he’s not a shut down defender by any stretch.

[drpg913Participant]

I don’t get what the fascination with John Wall is. He’s def not a top 3 point guard in the league. He has never been as good as Derrick Rose. Hell Jrue Holiday was an All-Star before he was. But anytime you say something about him maybe being slightly above average people go crazy on here and you cn mention defense but he’s not a shut down defender by any stretch.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 If we’re gonna call a spade a spade here, let’s just acknowledge the fact that Wall was injured for a good portion of last year, and would have made it over Jrue Holiday had he been eligible (he was a better player than Jrue when he returned)

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 If we’re gonna call a spade a spade here, let’s just acknowledge the fact that Wall was injured for a good portion of last year, and would have made it over Jrue Holiday had he been eligible (he was a better player than Jrue when he returned)

[caray12Participant]

 Let’s get the facts straight. John Wall would’ve made the all star team if he wasn’t injured for half the season. The Wizards would’ve also made the playoffs as well if he wasn’t injured. 

Off what these people on this site based there facts on John Wall is a top 5 defensive point guard in this league. Most of these people based all their facts on who’s statically better than one another. John Wall was the only point guard last year to have a defensive rating of 104 or lower, a steal percentage of 2.5, and have a 4 or more defensive win share. And he held his opponents to a player efficiency rating of 15. That’s for all you stat heads that based every little thing on a stat.

[caray12Participant]

 Let’s get the facts straight. John Wall would’ve made the all star team if he wasn’t injured for half the season. The Wizards would’ve also made the playoffs as well if he wasn’t injured. 

Off what these people on this site based there facts on John Wall is a top 5 defensive point guard in this league. Most of these people based all their facts on who’s statically better than one another. John Wall was the only point guard last year to have a defensive rating of 104 or lower, a steal percentage of 2.5, and have a 4 or more defensive win share. And he held his opponents to a player efficiency rating of 15. That’s for all you stat heads that based every little thing on a stat.

[jmarg25Participant]

 I would put him as #4. I do think he is underrated and I appreciate this post. However, Stephen Curry is the best shooter in the league; I think it’s hard to overlook that. And Curry is not the worst defensive PG, he had 128 steals this year (yes I know steals aren’t everything).

[jmarg25Participant]

 I would put him as #4. I do think he is underrated and I appreciate this post. However, Stephen Curry is the best shooter in the league; I think it’s hard to overlook that. And Curry is not the worst defensive PG, he had 128 steals this year (yes I know steals aren’t everything).

[caray12Participant]

He probably not the worst defender. But he’s close to being the worst defender. I rate players on being all around players and fans ( definitely the young fans ) base hiw good players are by going off is he a good shooter. The better player is the player that can do more things on the court better than the other player. 

You basically made my point and stating "Stephan Curry is the best shooter in the league". That’s all you said that was better than what John Wall is. I respect your opinion but I disagree. I believe Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook is the only two that’s better than him is the fact that both are better defenders and that Chris Paul is at end better leader/facilitator. 

 

[caray12Participant]

He probably not the worst defender. But he’s close to being the worst defender. I rate players on being all around players and fans ( definitely the young fans ) base hiw good players are by going off is he a good shooter. The better player is the player that can do more things on the court better than the other player. 

You basically made my point and stating "Stephan Curry is the best shooter in the league". That’s all you said that was better than what John Wall is. I respect your opinion but I disagree. I believe Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook is the only two that’s better than him is the fact that both are better defenders and that Chris Paul is at end better leader/facilitator. 

 

[invalidParticipant]

john wall isn’t underrated. and never was

[invalidParticipant]

john wall isn’t underrated. and never was

[invalidParticipant]

you are the one whose on the younger generation. fake ass.. calling dirk not superstar.. lel

[invalidParticipant]

you are the one whose on the younger generation. fake ass.. calling dirk not superstar.. lel

[caray12Participant]

I don’t just call every player a superstar like the rest of you all. I know Dirk Nowiski was a beast. But that don’t mean he’s a superstar. I only believe that if a player that can make a team an instant contender when he joins them. Say for instance, if LeBron James would have went to Philadelphia they wouldve been contenders. Same goes with Kevin Durant with the Bucks. 

[caray12Participant]

I don’t just call every player a superstar like the rest of you all. I know Dirk Nowiski was a beast. But that don’t mean he’s a superstar. I only believe that if a player that can make a team an instant contender when he joins them. Say for instance, if LeBron James would have went to Philadelphia they wouldve been contenders. Same goes with Kevin Durant with the Bucks. 

[XYRYXParticipant]

Get over it boy. Aside from Duncan no big man had the influence Dirk had over the last 15 years not named Shaq. Do you realise there have notbeen stretch 4s before Dirk went to score 25 ppg any given night shooting close to .400 from deep consistantly. We can talk about his defense abilities but don’t tell me a 28 year old Dirk Nowitzki (spelling) wouldn’t make a push for MVP on any team in the league. 

Just watch his championship season and tell me he hadn’t one of the best single player playoff runs the league has ever seen. 

If players like KD are trying to adapt some of his offensive moves especially his signature one legged fadeaway, you have done something right. 

[XYRYXParticipant]

Get over it boy. Aside from Duncan no big man had the influence Dirk had over the last 15 years not named Shaq. Do you realise there have notbeen stretch 4s before Dirk went to score 25 ppg any given night shooting close to .400 from deep consistantly. We can talk about his defense abilities but don’t tell me a 28 year old Dirk Nowitzki (spelling) wouldn’t make a push for MVP on any team in the league. 

Just watch his championship season and tell me he hadn’t one of the best single player playoff runs the league has ever seen. 

If players like KD are trying to adapt some of his offensive moves especially his signature one legged fadeaway, you have done something right. 

[caray12Participant]

 He can’t make every team in the league a automatic contender like KD and LeBron James. He no doubt a transcended player with how the games is being played. But I don’t believe he’s a superstar. 

[caray12Participant]

 He can’t make every team in the league a automatic contender like KD and LeBron James. He no doubt a transcended player with how the games is being played. But I don’t believe he’s a superstar. 

[evangelion79Participant]

 Look at Dirks championship team. He was the only star. The team they beat? The heat. A team with 3 star players. Lebron  couldn’t win in Cleveland with a similar cast. That’s why he had to go to Miami. Lebron is one of the greatest players ever. Probably top 3 when it’s all over. But he still had to surround himself with stars to get championships. So your point that he can go to any team and make them a contender but dirk couldn’t is not a very good argument.. Dirk was a beast. How many players have scored 48 point in the playoffs on only 15 shot attempts? He’s also one of only 6 players in the 50-40-90 club and a top 10 all time scorer. Dirk has had an amazing career. 

[evangelion79Participant]

 Look at Dirks championship team. He was the only star. The team they beat? The heat. A team with 3 star players. Lebron  couldn’t win in Cleveland with a similar cast. That’s why he had to go to Miami. Lebron is one of the greatest players ever. Probably top 3 when it’s all over. But he still had to surround himself with stars to get championships. So your point that he can go to any team and make them a contender but dirk couldn’t is not a very good argument.. Dirk was a beast. How many players have scored 48 point in the playoffs on only 15 shot attempts? He’s also one of only 6 players in the 50-40-90 club and a top 10 all time scorer. Dirk has had an amazing career. 

[caray12Participant]

 Had great players like Tyson Chandler, Jason Kidd,  Jason Terry, Shaun Marion,  and much more. Dirk Nowiski is not a once and life time type of player or trendsetting type of player. He’s a great player but he’s not a superstar player.

[caray12Participant]

 Had great players like Tyson Chandler, Jason Kidd,  Jason Terry, Shaun Marion,  and much more. Dirk Nowiski is not a once and life time type of player or trendsetting type of player. He’s a great player but he’s not a superstar player.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I like John Wall’s physical gifts, athleticism, blazing speed and transition play. He’s not this great defender people are making him out to be, but his athleticism does allow him to make great defensive plays (steals in passing lanes and blocking shots). I thought he made some improvements last season to not just playing at one speed all of the time. 

He finishes great around the rim, but I just don’t like him in the half court. I don’t like his decision making. When the game slows down, he really struggles. He’s also still a below average shooter. Defenses are giving him that cushion to shoot and he can’t knock them down consistently… I mean, at least Rajon Rondo can knock down some of the ones that count. 

I was actually more impressed with Bradley Beal in the playoffs than I was with Wall. 

I think Wall can still improve, but right now I don’t think he’s a top five player at his position. Top ten. 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

[capecodderParticipant]

Steals can be a misleading stat and even mean poor defense….take Rondo…I am a lifetime Celtics fan, but Rondo is constantly among the leader in steals per game, but continually gives up penetration 

[capecodderParticipant]

Steals can be a misleading stat and even mean poor defense….take Rondo…I am a lifetime Celtics fan, but Rondo is constantly among the leader in steals per game, but continually gives up penetration 

[caray12Participant]

 According to stats John Wall is a top 5 defensive point guard if you were going off of that ( not steals but advanced stats like most people goes off of ). If you only watched John Wall in the playoffs you won’t get the full John Wall. He went against the top 2 defensive teams in the league in Chicago and Indiana which are known for making games ugly and making point guards struggle to score ( you should know this because you is an Indiana Pacers fan ). His shooting percentage from behind the arch it’s pretty good ( but you going off perception that he’s a terrible shooter ). He shot 35 percent from the 3 point line and that’s on par with Kyrie Irving, Chris Paul, James Harden, Paul George, and LeBron James. And John Wall shot over 40 percent from 3 point line after the all star break.

You can call it as it is that John Wall struggled in the playoffs going against much more experienced teams. But there’s not a lot of point guards that’s the lead guy on the team and the best player on his team make the playoffs. Damien Lillard haves LaMarcus Aldridge, Kyle Lowry have Demar Derozan, Chris Paul have Blake Griffin, Russell Westbrook have Kevin Durant, and Tony Parker have Tim Duncan. John Wall was the lead guy and carried his team to the playoffs and having to do it with no bench and no body that’s on his level of play. Bradley Beal don’t play well without John Wall, Nene was injured for a quarter of the season, Trevor Ariza didn’t play well when John Wall wasn’t playing, and Martell Webster is just inconsistent. No other point guard have that work load and carried his team to the playoffs. 

 

[caray12Participant]

 According to stats John Wall is a top 5 defensive point guard if you were going off of that ( not steals but advanced stats like most people goes off of ). If you only watched John Wall in the playoffs you won’t get the full John Wall. He went against the top 2 defensive teams in the league in Chicago and Indiana which are known for making games ugly and making point guards struggle to score ( you should know this because you is an Indiana Pacers fan ). His shooting percentage from behind the arch it’s pretty good ( but you going off perception that he’s a terrible shooter ). He shot 35 percent from the 3 point line and that’s on par with Kyrie Irving, Chris Paul, James Harden, Paul George, and LeBron James. And John Wall shot over 40 percent from 3 point line after the all star break.

You can call it as it is that John Wall struggled in the playoffs going against much more experienced teams. But there’s not a lot of point guards that’s the lead guy on the team and the best player on his team make the playoffs. Damien Lillard haves LaMarcus Aldridge, Kyle Lowry have Demar Derozan, Chris Paul have Blake Griffin, Russell Westbrook have Kevin Durant, and Tony Parker have Tim Duncan. John Wall was the lead guy and carried his team to the playoffs and having to do it with no bench and no body that’s on his level of play. Bradley Beal don’t play well without John Wall, Nene was injured for a quarter of the season, Trevor Ariza didn’t play well when John Wall wasn’t playing, and Martell Webster is just inconsistent. No other point guard have that work load and carried his team to the playoffs. 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I like John Wall’s physical gifts, athleticism, blazing speed and transition play. He’s not this great defender people are making him out to be, but his athleticism does allow him to make great defensive plays (steals in passing lanes and blocking shots). I thought he made some improvements last season to not just playing at one speed all of the time. 

He finishes great around the rim, but I just don’t like him in the half court. I don’t like his decision making. When the game slows down, he really struggles. He’s also still a below average shooter. Defenses are giving him that cushion to shoot and he can’t knock them down consistently… I mean, at least Rajon Rondo can knock down some of the ones that count. 

I was actually more impressed with Bradley Beal in the playoffs than I was with Wall. 

I think Wall can still improve, but right now I don’t think he’s a top five player at his position. Top ten. 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

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