[UNCbasketballbumParticipant]

"I’m not getting to touch the ball enough."  REALLY?!?!?!?!?!

[aamir543Participant]

His usage rate is still at 27% for the past 4 playoff games, which is pretty high looking at his previous usage stats, that’s a bit higher than average, not sure what he’s thinking, Durant and Westbrook’s usage rate is just a little higher at 31%, for heavans sake CP3 is at 28%, and in last year’s playoff great series against teh Lakers wehre he had 24, 9 and 5 his usage rate was only at 24%, give me a break Joe.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnsjo02.html

And my reasearch led me to finding out that PJ Brown got an MVP vote. PJ Brown?

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 OVERPAID !!!!

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

This guy’s contract is everything that’s wrong with the league today.

[UNCbasketballbumParticipant]

doesn’t matter how many touches Joe gets, Hawks lose tonight…

[akhan786Participant]

The Hawks have so many great role players but not one superstar to put them over the top. Joe Johnson and Josh Smith haven’t proven that they can provide that kind of leadership to be a superstar for the Hawks.

Unless they develop some sort of Piston-esque chemistry, they’ll be stuck in mediocrity for the forseeable future.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

The Hawks need to get finally blown up during the off season. Only keep Jeff Teagues and Al Horford, everyone else should be moved.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 Rondo jumpshot is poppin tonight.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 The Hawks won. Lol

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Joe Johnson is a really good player, and if you look past what he gets paid, he is probably a top 20 player in the league. Unfortunately he is one of those guys that is in the "really good, but not quite good enough" category.

I dont think the Hawks should get blown up. Whats that going to lead to? If you blow up the roster, there better be a plan, and in the NBA, the best plan is to get stars, its literally the only way you consistently get past the first round of the playoffs…you dont get stars when you "blow things up"

 

[AKOOParticipant]

Being a Hawks fan I don’t like Joe because he holds the ball too much and kills the offensively flow and plays too much Iso ball in the clutch. I would rather have Jeremy Lamb a guy that understands how to use screens and curls to get open and will not kill the offense but make it tougher to guard

[PulseGlazerParticipant]

Joe is practically immovable… unless you have a hankerin’ for Amare in Atlanta.  So given that you’re stuck with Joe, unless someone wants to give you a real 5 for Josh, it’s brutal to improve, really.  I suppose they could amnesty Joe, but he’s likely the third best 2 in the NBA, so that’s rough, too.  Teague at the 1 and Horford at the 4 with whatever you get for Josh (move Marvin with him) seems like it could be a really good start to a team.  Of course, the time to do that was this year so they’d be terrible and get a high pick, but c’est la vie.

[JoeWolf1]

 Johnson is a very good NBA player, but he looked like an elite wing scorer when he was dropping 25 per game the Hawks weren’t very good.  The Hawks improved, built a team and are not only a playoff team, but one that has made it out of the 1st round 3 years in a row.

He vastly got over paid, as now, he looks a lot more like a #2 option for a good caliber playoff team pretending to be a #1 option.  You can’t blame Johnson, but this should be a very good lesson when evaluating players for those 29-33 win teams.  They can fool you because their team isn’t very good, but your best player can often hang 30+ on a good team and keep his team in the mix.

[Harbinger]

 Amare for joe is a good deal.

One of the main reason Amare went to NY is Mike D but hes gone and things arent what they were cracked up to be.As seen the first year of Amare in NY and in PHX he can win when a team is built around him and hes the star of the offense.

Pair him with a big like josh smith or AL horford  in a high tempo offense with teague at the point thats scary.Josh smith and marvin williams  can be moved for other players. Matching carmelo with joe johnson will help both players giving camello more room to go to work and joe less pressure as a 2nd option.(off topic a role I can see barnes being a good second option also along a star player in the future)

The hawks have been together for a while and turn around it will be a decade together and a championship on conference finals wasnt accomplished blow the team up the core isnt working.

[Harbinger]

Move 3 out of 4 big contracts they can be in the  Eric Gordon sweepstakesand with josh smith, marvin williams ,horford, and joe johnson(even with the huge contract) they can find alot of teams interested.

[benny15Participant]

Amare is one thing. but if you were the hawks would you be willing to trade Joe Johnson for Diop and Tyrus Thomas? is his contract that bad that you’re wlling to loose so much in talent in a deal? what im really asking is if his contract is so bad already, that does it justify to be a salary dump?

[benny15Participant]

cause honestly, if the hawks are in that frame of mind, i think minny wouldnt mind trading for him while exchanging severall of their expiring contracts next year. might even include Beasley in the deal if the hawks want. they can give brad miller and darko as the expirings part of the deal.

it might be a very expensive unit, but thats a play-off unit. Rubio-Johnson-Williams-Love-Pekovic backed up by Barea-Webster-Johnson-Randolph

[benny15Participant]

cause honestly, if the hawks are in that frame of mind, i think minny wouldnt mind trading for him while exchanging severall of their expiring contracts next year. might even include Beasley in the deal if the hawks want. they can give brad miller and darko as the expirings part of the deal.

it might be a very expensive unit, but thats a play-off unit. Rubio-Johnson-Williams-Love-Pekovic backed up by Barea-Webster-Johnson-Randolph

[Harbinger]

 You dont dump or amnesty joe johnson to much talent and to much money at stake to give a way for free.Josh smith has spoke of a desire to play else where and his stock is as high as its ever been,Marvin never panned out to be what the hawks wanted him to but to a other team he might be whats keeping there bench from aplayoff run.Horford wants to play PF but cant because they need him at center  and they have been balling good without him surprisingly.

5 years of balling together improving every year…but still hasnt reached a conference finals.When do you Rebuild ? 5 more years? I was just reading about this on nba.com there stuck in still waters they need to do something.

[aamir543Participant]

^You don’t amnesty Joe Johnson……….yet.  There will come a point in the next year or two, where you’re gonna be looking at a guy that is no longer a go to wing scorer with still more than 20 million per year on his contract and 2-3 years left on it, if he continues his decline next year and falls to even 17.5 ppg or below, than Atlanta will probably use it on him, but probably not next off-season, I still think he has enough in him to be a good scorer next season, the 2014 off-season is the only off-season I see them using it, there would still be a huge chunk of money due to him for two years, and they may use it depending on how he’s performing at the time, but by 2015, if they keep him till them, they’d ride out the final year of his contract or buy him out.

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