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  • #8295
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    juicejc1
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    I see a lot of people saying he will be a very good role player but I mean not to many role players put up 17pts n 7 reb n their 2nd year. IMO he is too good to bench in favor for a prototypical pf, their are plenty of sf who play pf such as Josh Smith and Lamar Odom, Thaddeus Young. Green has borderline all star potential IMO if he continues his play and will only get better. What are your guy’s thoughts?

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  • #208926
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    llperez

    I would prefer to see him come off the bench as guy who can play multiple positions like Odom. He is very good, but I wouldn’t say furer all-star though. Not to sound like a hater, but I find it a little odd that people are putting so much hype into guys that played on a 23 win team. Lets see what his numbers are on a 50 win team that is competing in the playoffs. I just think OKC will need more of a physical presence at the 4 spot.

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  • #208927
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    QHaynes20

    He needs to be a SF…with Durant there, wont happen. I say move him to the bench for a PF

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  • #208928
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    blazer_fan_forever
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    But, he will never be an all-star. Especially playing with a team filled with selfish players. I think he will be an 18 and 8 guy year in and year out. Mismatch threat.

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  • #208929
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    juicejc1
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    I see what everyone has been saying I juss always liked Green’s game, what pf could you guys see fitting in with OKC?

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  • #208935
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    Michael.S.
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    Huh? A team filled with selfish players?

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    • #208938
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      blazer_fan_forever
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      I didn’t mean it like that…I just don’t see him ever having an opportunity to score 20+ ppg with a lot of scorers on the team. Especially drafting Harden.

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  • #208936
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    juicejc1
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    If the Thunder become a contender in the future like many think considering they have a young nice core that hopefully stays together and if he avg 18 pts n 8 reb won’t he be an all star because he’s on a contender??

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  • #208937
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    Michael.S.
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    haha i was talking to the poster above. In the NBA any low-post presence that can be a threat would be a good fit

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  • #208939
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    llperez

    too hard to say. 18-8 are not gauranteed to make an all-star team just because you are on a contender. Green just seems like a really solid all around player, but I don’t see him dominating games or drawing double teams. He helped my fantasy team a lot last year, but he was very inconsistent with his numbers. I just don’t see him as an all-star.

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  • #208945
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    NBATalk20098
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    because he got skill and he got game but jeff green going to prove everyone wrong.

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  • #208946
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    NBATalk20098
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    why u would prefer to see him come off the bench?

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  • #208947
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    llperez

    Jeff Green does have skill and game. But so do about 50 other nba players. He is the third or fourth best prospect on his own team. There are only so many all-star positions available.

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  • #208949
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    NBATalk20098
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    he has the skill to became an all-star player wat are u talking about?

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  • #208951
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    llperez

    because I think he is a natural sf. With Durant at the sf, green is obviously not gonna start over him. As for playing the four, it works in a pinch, but if OKC is gonna take the next step into contenders, I think they will need a more physical pf. Rashard Lewis got away with being a sf playing the 4 last year, but he also had the best big man in the entire league playing alongside him. Unless OKC can get a Howard type that can take care of the paint by himself, Green will be a bit of a liabilty as a 4 on a team trying to contend.

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  • #208952
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    llperez

    What I’m talking about is I don’t think he will be an all-star. I never said he didn’t have skill, I just said I don’t see it happening which is my opinion.

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  • #208954
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    NBATalk20098
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    Wat about Jamaal Magloire he be came an all-star

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    • #208956
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      blazer_fan_forever
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      In the watered down East.

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  • #208957
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    llperez

    Magloire played center. Check throughout the history of the all-star game, and you will see lots of bigs get in on certain years who were questionable selections. SF’s and wing players, not so much.

    Besides, there is a difference between saying it is possible and actually predicting it to happen. I can go on for a while about guys I think have more all-star potential then Green. I’ve watched plenty of him, and I have seen him as a jack of all trades type that can do a number of things to help a team. I’ve never saw him as a franchise building block or eventual all-star. Odom was supposed to be a future all-star as well when he first entered the league, but that obviously never happened.

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  • #208958
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    juicejc1
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    Considering the history of all star players if Oklahoma becomes a serious top3 threat in the west than they can have the potential to have multiple players be on the all star team. He may not have to have great numbers but it just depends on the season and his numbers.

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  • #208959
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    NBATalk20098
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    and llperez22 said jeff green would not be an all-star player.

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  • #208960
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    llperez

    yes, that part is clear. What’s your point?

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  • #208961
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    aarondsonixfan
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    I have said this before, but puting green at the 4 is best for OKC. I think in the future, when they will be a top 4 seed in the west, green will be an all star. I don’t see him making multiple appearances, but I think he will make 1 or 2. The reason why i think puting green at the 4 is the best for the team is because it spreads out the floor more. So now, KD can take his man off the dribble, and there won’t be anyone to block his way in the post. Plus if KD gets double teamed, Jeff can drain 3’s at an actual decent percentage. They are going to have a great team. Russell is the one who is going to get screwed out of all star games, because there are too many good pgs in the west

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  • #208962
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    llperez

    Pau, Duncan, Dirk, Amare, Jeffferson, Aldridge, Griffin, ZRandolph, ARandolph, Odom, Millsap, Boozer, Love, West

    All of those guys are current or potential future all stars that play pf in the west. Plus, there will asuredly be more to come in the draft. Why is that I’m supposed to believe Green will be an all star over all these guys when I don’t even think he is a natural pf?

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  • #208964
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    NBATalk20098
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    u wrong

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  • #208966
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    llperez

    well, I can’t really argue against logic like that.

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  • #208967
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    butidonthavemoney

    LOL!

    I enjoyed that bit very much.

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  • #208970
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    juicejc1
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    Most of those players will be either retired of past their prime, also as a reserve he could be either sf or pf but we just have to play the waiting game.

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  • #208972
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    fastdan
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    I heard he’s up to 245 or something now? A 6’9, 245 pounder shouldn’t be called a liability in the paint. He’s obviously new to the position, give him a year or two to learn how to defend 4s before writing him off. That’s how long it’s going to take them to become contenders anyway, so what’s the rush.

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  • #208969
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    Michael.S.
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    haha you should change your username to, NBADoINeedToExplainMYselfWhenITalk20098?

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  • #208973
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    llperez

    I’ll end this with the great d-grizzly’s “your opinion is an opinion. Especially yours”

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  • #208968
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    Michael.S.
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    haha you should change your username to, NBADoINeedToExplainMYselfWhenITalk20098?

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  • #208974
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    butidonthavemoney

    I like this guy. He is in a bit of my history. Part of a complex series of clues that… Ahhh nevermind.

    In most of the topics he starts, the subject is in the subject, and the body is simply: what yall think

    He is also a big Jodie Meeks fan.

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  • #208975
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    NBATalk20098
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    iam not changing my username

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  • #208976
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    butidonthavemoney

    What other languages do you speak?

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  • #208982
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    NBATalk20098
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    spanish

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  • #209039
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    doubledribbler
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    He’s a nice player. That team is really going to turn the corner if they are able to move him to the bench. I think it would be ideal if he is a 6th man coming off the bench, but getting minutes that are close to that of a starter much like with Odom. With a basketball TEAM you don’t always start the best 5 guys, but you generally end with the best 5. A big guy that absorbs double teams would be great for that team, but I also think they need a shotblocker and a sharp shooting 2 guard.

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  • #209041
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    D Hamp
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    If I can join the conversation, I live in Oklahoma and watched Jeff Green last year. Yeah, he did put up 17 and 7. But remember for the first half of the season, the Oklahoma City Thunder was on the verge of being the worst team league history!!! Many thought they would have the worst record ever. Green is a decent player, his stats were a little inflated last year because he and Durant had the green light to shoot an enourmous amount of shots. He’s isn’t a power forward and can’t bang against Wallace, Randolph, Duncan, Jefferson, etc. He often plays out of position. It’s not his fault. OKC took the top two players they could in Green and Durant. Is he a role player? Maybe? Maybe not? To me, he’s a starter. He’s solid. It’s too early to tell. He’s not a superstar though. That honor will soon go to Durant.

    Dhamp..the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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  • #209059
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    quincey hodges

    not sure if he will be a allstar anytime soon bt he does have allstar talent..i see him as the lamar odom of that team..he can come off the bench or start at the 4. he does everything pretty well and putting up 17-8 for a career is very do able for him. i dont live in oklahoma but i watch most of his games and have been since he was in highschool (hometown d.c)..he is more then capable of playing the pf spot. he takes his shots just like most players withou alot of help but what people dont realize is since there isnt much help the defense can focus more on the scores. add to the fact hes young and still heading towards his potenial and the team will get better and add more players/scores. any player can take alot of shots on a bad team but only the good ones consitantly make them

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  • #209073
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    sheltwon3
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    I think with the way NBA team are changing if he did get bigger and retained most of his quickness he can be a solid 4 but the main thing is they have a weak 5 as well and they need at least one banger in the front court. OKC plays scrappy. I think with the way that OKC is getting talent, Green may wind up a bench player or the starting 3 with Durant at the 2 and Harden a bench player. I see Green as a bench player being likely. OKC will probably draft a top quality power forward or Center in next year’s draft and they also have DJ White and some dude from overseas who is supposed to be real good who can also play center. It will be interesting how they balance all that talent.

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  • #209076
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    quincey hodges

    yi think collins is a good banger off the bench and a healthy kristic is much more than servicable ( though hes not a banger) i think a 5 of kristic,green,durant,harden,westbrook works for now

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  • #209083
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    D Hamp
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    Sheltwon, the guy you’re talking about is Nenard Kristic! LOL! He maybe would have made the all-star team with the New Jersey Nets a few years ago, until he tore his ACL. Check out his stats. Boy is nice. He should start at center. He’s only 25 or 26.

    Dhamp…the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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  • #209089
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    Ryan.Cook2
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    they will still have a top 10 pick so they could draft a power forward. Favors, Donatas, Davis, Monroe, Brackins.

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  • #209127
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    fastdan
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    I think eventually they will have to move one of their young players to the bench. Probably Harden or Green, just because it isn’t smart to have your 4 best offensive players on the floor all at the same time, while your 2nd team struggles with getting points. Right now they have Thabo who is a good defensive player at the 2, and they also have D.J. White who can bang a bit, and rebound well, as well as Ibaka who’s supposed to be an athletic freak who has the potential to be a great defensive player. Drafting another Pf at next years draft seems a little stupid with the depth they have at that position. Hopefully they can swing a deal for a legit C who’s more of a banger than Kristic, or get their hands on Aldrich who I think would suit their team well.

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  • #209139
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    JNixon
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    I just dont see Green being an all-star. Im sorry. He’s a very versatile talent and he’s physically gifted, but Stephen Jackson, Mike Miller, and Lamar Odom are all versatile players that are physically gifted and none of them have ever been all-stars. Nothing about Green’s potential says “all-star” to me, but he could always be a valuable contributor to anyones roster. He isnt quite the offensive or defensive player to be considered anything more than an above average player, and he doesnt have a standout ability at all as a player. I think even though he has gotten bigger, he is a SF and his skill set tells you that. I like Green, but he isnt more than a 3rd option at best for a team.

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  • #209145
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    D Hamp
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    I’m with igoudala9. I basically said the same thing only nicer. He took too many shots last year that he wouldn’t have gotten on a even dencent team. That’s why his numbers are inflated. He would be a third maybe even fourth option on most teams.

    Dhamp…the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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  • #209150
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    esperanzafleet69
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    this guy plays a LOT like rashard lewis… he should be a SF but gets pf minutes due to full positions tho… i think he’ll average something like 21 pts 7-8 boards and around 2 3pters… he can hit the longball with accuracy

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  • #209156
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    quincey hodges

    yeah he might not make it but he hjas allstar talent..kinda like a igudola..pretty good player but not someone who you have as youre first option on a top tier or championship team

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  • #209172
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    KevinDurantRocks
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    Like Green to start more just for experiance

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  • #209214
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    jerb2011
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    Jeff Green gained about 15 pounds over the summer, to add more of a physical play, so he should enter the season 6’9″ 250lbs.

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