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- Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 4:28am #39516

bloodshyParticipantThese are possible trades I’ve been thinking of that may make sense. Each would cause some pain for both teams, but I think they have enough upside to make sense.
Possible Trade 1:
Jazz get GSW’s two 2nd round picks.
GSWs take Raja Bell off the Jazz’ hands and get guaranteed rights to this year’s pick.
(GSW has expressed a desire to not add too many youngsters to their roster and has approached the Jazz to secure rights to this year’s pick, even if it falls to the Jazz. This draft has enough depth that the Jazz could add quality in the second round and eradicating their lockerroom cancer would be nice. GSW would be guaranteed two first round picks in a very talented draft.)
Possible Trade 2:
Jazz get Kyle Lowry and the 14th overall pick.
Houston gets Al Jefferson, Devin Harris and the Jazz’ $10M trade exception.
(Lowry wants out and the Jazz need to open roster space for Favors/Kanter. 14ppg/6apg on .407 shooting is not worth 19ppg/9.6rpg on .492 shooting. As a result, Hou would probably have to throw in the 14th to make this happen. The Jazz don’t need Harris, but Harris could have real value in Houston, especially since Dragic is no guarantee to resign. Because of the increased salary this would cause, the Jazz would need to give Houston their trade exception so Houston could avoid the luxury tax. This trade is probably not very likely, but something involving some of these pieces between Hou-Uta is possible.)
Possible Trade 3:
Jazz get Iggy
76ers get Milsap or Jefferson
(Simple trade that makes sense for both teams. Trading Al would make more sense for Utah since Sap fits better w/Favors and Kanter and since Al and Iggy have similar salaries.)
Utah Ideal Scenario:
Jazz make the deal above w/GSW and also trade Al for Iggy. Then, the Jazz land Dragic via free agency and move Harris to 6th man (a role he could thrive in). Utah uses its three second round picks to get Machado and at least one very good shooter. All of those things may be possible, but unfortunately, it’s probably more likely that none of them happens.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 6:35am #674400

JunkYardDogParticipantTrade 1 :
I think that’s a little bit overpaid for GS to send 2 second round picks (35 & 52) in a deep draft and the bad contract of bell for something they already have NOW (maybe not in a couple of days).
Trade 2 :
that’s also too much for houston. 1 lottery pick and lowry to get garbage (a useless harris, a useless exception) and a pf (playing center) whereas they already have scola patterson and motiejunas as pf in their roster (and morris and parsons who can get minutes as pf too)… LOGJAM… houston needs to add size.
Trade 3 :
that’s the trade I think should help both team : jefferson for iguodala. We’ll see if phila want to change his successfull roster. I’d do if I were them…
I think machado should find a home at the end of the first round.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 6:39am #674403
no skillsParticipantyeah as a jazz fan i like trade 3. trade 2 could be good but i do not see that happening
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:16am #674405
rwd5035ParticipantAs a Philly fan, I hate trade 3.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:47am #674409

JunkYardDogParticipant…why …?!!!
Jefferson would bring his post skills (rare skills in the nba) and would benefit from hawes passing game. He also would bring his 8 / 10 reb every game and it would free some playing time for turner as a sg/sf, young as a sf/pf if you want to play small ball with jefferson as a center and lou williams as a sg.
moreover phila has the 15th pick in a draft full of quality sf (barnes, mkg, P.jones, harkless, T.jones, white, miller… some should be available).
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 8:19am #674412
the27guyParticipantI always love trade ideas-
#1. Maybe for one of the 2nd rounders and Raja. I don’t think Utah would necessarily want 2 2nd rounders… but I’m not sure they would want one 2nd rounder either. They’re already SO young.
They might have interest in the #30 pick, but because of how talented that #8 pick could potentially be, I don’t think that would be enough (I know most of you disagree, but if GS doesn’t get that pick… they’re screwed). So maybe the #30, and then only protect the pick through number 3 next year, and unprotected the year after. If GS feels they’re going to be good with the Bogut, Lee, Curry, and the SF of their choice, and they have no reason to think that they won’t be pretty good, then they’re basically giving up the #30, and a mid first rounder in a weaker draft next year for a guaranteed top 8 pick this year… that’s pretty good for GS.
#2. I think you’ve got the wrong idea on the trade exception. The trade exception allows the Jazz to take back more money… I think you’ve got it going the wrong way. Plus, the way Harris played the last 25 games of the regular season, I’m not sure I’d trade him straight up for Lowry. Plus, Lowry’s had his injuries, and now problems with McHale… I think I’m staying away from him. I don’t like this trade if I’m a Jazz fan, and I’d do it in a heartbeat if I was in Houston.
#3 After Philly’s playoff run, I’m not sure they’d do this anymore. Iguodala was key in he playoff run, and Jefferson (although a serious upgrade) kind of duplicates Elton Brand.
I’m not saying this trade is totally impossible… just not likely. If Philly somehow unloads Brand, then this might work perfectly for them… or say, the Jazz land the #8, and Philly really loves a 3 who’s available there, then maybe the Jazz do Al, and #8 for Iggy and #15?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 8:29am #674413

Sewok15ParticipantElton Brand should be amnestied with his salary. He had a productive year and somehow he is the Sixers best shot blocker but he just doesn’t bring enough to the table anymore to be getting paid like he is. I wouldn’t want Jefferson as a sixers fan. He does bring nice low post scoring which is hard to find but he is too much of a blackhole on offense while only bringing average D at best. I would personally want Milsap over Jefferson because he seems like the more efficent player. They would also need to at the very least swap the 8 and 15 picks and I am not sure how the salaries would work out but I am sure they could make it work.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 8:39am #674416
the27guyParticipantJefferson for Iguodala salary works. Millsap for Jefferson does not. Also, as a Jazz fan, I wouldn’t be excited to take on Iguodala’s salary, and I wouldn’t be willing to give up Millsap for Iguodala straight up. Millsap means too much to the Jazz in my mind. He’s the heart and soul of the team… and he always comes to work… plus he’s the perfect mentor for the young bigs. I love Al too. He probably won us 10 games on his own last year… but if we’re going to move one of them, he’s the one I’d be willing to let go.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 8:57am #674417

apb540Participant" or say, the Jazz land the #8, and Philly really loves a 3 who’s available there, then maybe the Jazz do Al, and #8 for Iggy and #15?"
I really like that trade idea.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 9:04am #674419
WinterSoldierParticipantI would do #2 if the it was the 14th and 16th for Jefferson who is a top 10 possibly top 5 center and Harris for Lowry.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:00am #674453

CodySLCParticipantTrade 1- I say roll the dice we could end up with the 8th pick. If we dont move Bell for a second round pick, he will probably just be released.
Trade 2- We would be better off staying with what we have.
As a Jazz fan i only like trade 3. We need to move one of either Millsap or Jefferson. I would love to see Iggy on the wing.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/29/2012 - 4:14am #674644
rwd5035Participant@JunkyardDog
Why should we trade our best perimeter defender, and only true SF for a center when we just drafted one last year? Besides, if we take away Iggy, and insert Jefferson, are the Sixers a better team? I don’t think we would be any better.
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