[cidjulianParticipant]

I really like Sullinger. I think he can be the Elton Brand of the next generation and I have tons of confidence in dudes game and its transition to the league. He may not win ROY but I do believe he can be a solid starter within the next 2 years and yet I see predictions of him not even going top 15?!?

If my teams need is a 4, I would love taking him if Anthony Davis is not on the board. I love back to the basket 4s with big bodies who are willing to throw bows. Why shouldn’t I?!?

You guys disagree with my views of Sullinger?!? Is he more Sean May than Elton?!? Ouch …. I think not but let me know …. let us conversate.

[boshjonesfordParticipant]

big difference betweeen elton brand and jared sullinger is that elton was known as a great defensive players (blocks) in his early years which is something jered sullinger lacks

[cidjulianParticipant]

Great point. Elton also averaged around 3 apg a few times. Sullinger hasn’t done anything close to that so far. Even with that being said, do you agree with him not going top 15?!? I feel that if he is expected to go outside of the top 15 than he’s a sleeper!!! ahahahaha

[omphalosParticipant]

Sullinger’s problem has always been his conditioning, he has the wingspan to make up for being undersized, but his high body fat percentage and lack of explosive athleticism has hurt his stock more than anything in his game that is skill-related.

If Sullinger shows up at the combine and has dropped a lot of weight/fat, his stock will make a huge jump.

As far as skill and BBIQ is concerned, he’s better than Thomas Robinson, but Robinson is an elite athlete and that has given him the edge (I use Robinson as an example because they are both similar in terms of height/length/position).

If he falls out of the top 15, he would definitely be considered a sleeper. I’d love to see him end up in Boston with one of our first-round picks, but I’m not even sure if he’d drop out of the top 10, let alone the top 20.

Where he ends up will be a big factor in how much he achieves in the NBA, he needs a coach who will push him to get in better shape.

[r377Participant]

Some sites have going outside the top 15, others have him going at 5…

I don’t think he will be as good as Brand – I see him more of a better version of Big Baby Davis and i think he could be a 15/18p – 8 reb guy. Bargain if he goes outside the lottery….

[kobyzParticipant]

at best Zach Randolph, at worst Luis Scola.

[HitsterParticipant]

I would be surprised if Sullinger did slip out of the lottery but he is part of that 2nd group of bigs after Davis, Drummond and T-Rob that includes PJ III, Henson, Tyler Zeller, Leonard and Moultrie so a lot of draft movement could take place amongst those guys.

Also teams in that draft range like Phoenix for example do have quite a few players in the PF position.

Whilst I don’t agree with the Brand comparision that much and it is just outside the lottery, Philly would not be a bad fit for Sullinger. Brand could help bring him along and Coach Collins would try to knock defence into him.

I do agree that the combine results could affect Sullinger’s draft stock, if he turns up nearer 260 to 270lbs compared to 280 to 290lbs then he’ll be considered to be in good shape and we’ll find out his legit height although his wingspan can compensate for this.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 I think Brand was quicker and a more explosive athlete when he was younger.  I don’t think Sullinger’s skill in the post equals Brand and the athleticism difference is big.  I also think Sullinger isn’t especially long to make up for his lack of height.

I think he will be solid big off the bench or undersized center who can score, but is a liability against some opposing offenses, as he will be too slow to be a great pick and roll defender or consistently keep up with more athletic bigs up and down the floor.  I think developing his high post game to complement his prowess in the low post is important for his success against bigger, more athletic NBA players.  I feel like center may actually be his ideal NBA position, where his quickness and footwork on the offensive end will make him a mismatch and his lack of speed won’t be as much of a liability on the defensive end of the floor.  His strength will help make up for his lack of length as a post defender.

[TheMOSTHATEDoneParticipant]

 Lenght: 

Brand 6´9.5 on shoes (He is always listed at 6´8 in nba.com) so he is basically 6´10.

He was better athleticaly

But the big thing: Lennnghhhtt: Brands Standing reach is 9 ´2 with a monster 7´6 wingspan, that is out of Sullingers proportions, thats why Elton Brand with his gigantic proportions could block and alter many shots.

However i see some Al Jefferson in his early years in Sully, if he can refine his post moves and maintain weight with less than 15% body fat, he will be ok.

The two things Brand and Him share are strenght and post moves, their bodies are totally different.

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Few people have mentioned it but I think he would be an amazing fit next to AD in New Orleans if they’re able to take him at #10. His post game and strength are superb and his weaknesses like length, conditioning, and defense would be offset by Anthony Davis’s ability in those categories.

When I look at Sullinger I see a Zach Randolph without the maturity issues.

[JoeWolf1]

 Good, solid player, one who could be a starter in a year or two.  I think his likely ceiling is around a 14 ppg 7 or 8 rebound player in a starting role, and a reliable 10 ppg 5 rpg player in a role position.  He has good strength and a long reach, so I’m not too worried if he doesn’t measure 6’10” in shoes.

Despite his offensive skill, I think his shot translates more as a pick and pop/faceup option than a guy who operates on the low block.  He really struggled against the athletic Robinson, and size of Withey in the Final 4, and that did raise some questions, to me, about his ability to operate around the rim at the next level.

He’s a solid pick, I’d take him before Jones, but I think 8 is as high as I’d take him.  If he drops past 10 he’ll be a steal and a guy who is going to make a team very happy.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Sullinger can be like Kevin Love a player a lot of people compare him to.  Both can score in the post.  Both can hit outside jumpers. Both can rebound.  Both guys are not great on D.  If Sullinger loses weight like Love did this past season, he could improve some of his game.

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 I think Sullinger’s body is still maturing. I suspect there is some baby fat on it and that it will come off as he enters his 20s. I don’t think there is any reason to think he won’t work at it once he is a pro. The only concern I have is that he has those seriously uneven length legs, like Oden had. That might hurt his durability down the road. But right away he is a starting PF in the league. No question there. Do you think he can’t score on Boozer, Stat, David Lee, etc. etc.? You can’t just compare these guys to the All Stars. Being able to outplay Dirk isn’t a requirement to be a starting NBA powerforward. 

So he seems like about as sure a thing in this draft as anyone. As long as his body doesn’t break down. 

[mosdefParticipant]

Sullinger can score and rebound. That got Boozer a long way in the NBA

[HitsterParticipant]

I seem to recall Sullinger was seen in practice a year or so back knocking down some 3 pointers and when asked why he didn’t use this in his game play, he merely replied he didn’t need to. So this could have been something he was working on as he knew playing inside in the NBA is much harder then in the NCAA.

I like the 15ppg, 7rpg level that has been suggested for him and I’ll throw in another player whose level he could strive to reach in David West. Okay David had CP3 to feed him put minus a few points off his best years and you maybe have someone around 15ppg level.

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

Sullingrr definitely has three point range. He is a lot like K Love in that regards. But it brings him away from the offensive boards and he scores even better on the low blocks. So why use it? But he can spread the floor if you want to create with another guy. 

[wikiParticipant]

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[blood]

 was way more athletic in his early days than Sullinger is…tbh i dont feel the comp.  z.bo also istn great comp.z-bo is face up pf..sullinger is more like all jefferson now(isnt very atletic but big body,and has some post moves) his main weakness is can he guard starting pfs in this league like Griffin,Love,Aldridge,Smith…i dont think he can

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