[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Jahlil Okafor post moves are unreal man. I really thought he would struggle against the Cavs because of the lenght of Timofey Mozgov and the rest of the Cavs front court. But, he really domintated them with scoring 24 points in 27 minutes. 

I didn’t believe he will be this good this fast.I thought he would be good from the start,but I thought he would be shooting in the mid-shooting and really struggling vs. the lenght of all the teams they are playing. But, he’s going out and outmuscling Kevin Love and Tristian Thompson and putting great moves on a great defensive player in Timofey Mozgov. I believe only 5 players in the 40 years scored 60 points while shooting over 50% from the field in their first three games.

I like how the 76ers did with their starting 5 by putting Nik Stauskas and Robert Covington in to provide space for Okafor and not letting the Cavs to double him. 

I don’t want to jinx him or anything, but I believe the 76ers have a cornerstone to build around in the future and after this season I believe the tanking is officially over. They might still suck for a year, but I believe they will at least have a core that you can go out and try to win with. The 76ers could litterally have 2 top 4 picks next summer with the Lakers protected pick and their own.

If they have the number one pick they might have an issue though. I believe they should not draft Ben Simmons strickly off of spacing issues with him, Noel, and Okafor. I believe if they have the number one pick I would go with either Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram due to their shooting abilty and the ability to be a star. I really believe Bradon Ingram can be a big time scorer in the NBA. 

I know the 76ers is the joke of the NBA, but they have a great core of young talent and the tanking is about to end.

 

 

 

 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Yeah, I love his post moves. Simmons has to be the pick, but we need a guard like Bacon, Jaylen Brown or Prince Ali. They are all versatile guards, and remember we have Saric coming over next year. Him and Ben are similar players.. When Wroten comes back this team will actually look like a good starting 5 with

Wroten

Nik

Covington

Noel

Okafor

 

 

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I don’t really believe Prince Ali and Dwayen Bacon will enter this years NBA draft. I don’t believe Ali is good enough to be a one and done player and Dwayne Bacon hinted that he might be a two and done. I believe he really wants to play for the much heralded 2016 recruiting class led by Jonathan Isaac and the potential of Udoka Azubukie and Dewan Huell projected to go their.

Remember they can have two top 4 picks next year. I really believe they should go Brandon Ingram,  Jaylen Brown, and/or Jamal Murray

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I don’t really believe Prince Ali and Dwayen Bacon will enter this years NBA draft. I don’t believe Ali is good enough to be a one and done player and Dwayne Bacon hinted that he might be a two and done. I believe he really wants to play for the much heralded 2016 recruiting class led by Jonathan Isaac and the potential of Udoka Azubukie and Dewan Huell projected to go their.

Remember they can have two top 4 picks next year. I really believe they should go Brandon Ingram,  Jaylen Brown, and/or Jamal Murray

 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Yeah, I love his post moves. Simmons has to be the pick, but we need a guard like Bacon, Jaylen Brown or Prince Ali. They are all versatile guards, and remember we have Saric coming over next year. Him and Ben are similar players.. When Wroten comes back this team will actually look like a good starting 5 with

Wroten

Nik

Covington

Noel

Okafor

 

 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 I said it at about May, and I’m gonna say it now. He will be the best player out of this draft. And he will be the ROY. Even if he does about half of what he’s doing right now with Philly, he’ll be ROY. I really love this kid, and think he was put in the PERFECT situation in Philly for his development. He’s not like Cody Zeller and his limited opportunity, he was put in Philly and immediately became the #1 option and it’s his perfect chance to shine.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

Who are you talking about when you are saying "He’s not like Cody Zeller and his limited opportunity"?

To not disrespect the talents in Karl-Anthony Towns and D’Angelo Russell, but I always thought Jahlil Okafor and Emmanuel Mudiay were the two best players in the draft. I still believe those two will be the best in this years draft along with Towns, Porzingis, and Winslow. 

Jahlil Okafor talents is unreal and I don’t remember the last time someone came iito this league at his age and shown this level of post moves, footwork, and touch. People will say that "you can’t win a championships with traditional bigs", but I would say "we didn’t have tradiotional bigs that built like Okafor that came into the league in a while". He have a spectacular iso game and I believe he tried to "Shammgod" Timofey Mozgov yesterday. He’s shooting 80% on ISO’s so far. 

I’m not a Sixers fan, but I love their future and I believe they might have a chance to have the best young core in the league with Dario Saric coming over next year (reported yesterday that he will opt out of his EURO deal), potential of 4 first rounders next season, Nerlens Noel, Jahlil Okafor, and Joel Embiid. 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Cody Zeller hasn’t ever gotten a chance with Charlotte. He’s never been given the green light to really be a scorer. From Day 1, Jahlil was given the chance to showcase his skills, Zeller wasn’t, then they signed Al Jefferson and Cody Zeller was officially a bench player. Cody wasn’t given the chance Jahlil has been given.

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Cody Zeller hasn’t ever gotten a chance with Charlotte. He’s never been given the green light to really be a scorer. From Day 1, Jahlil was given the chance to showcase his skills, Zeller wasn’t, then they signed Al Jefferson and Cody Zeller was officially a bench player. Cody wasn’t given the chance Jahlil has been given.

[markfitz14Participant]

I think If Embiid gets healty the play him next year in the reserve role and hopefully boost his trade value. Try to trade Embid and say a 2017 or 18 First Rounder for a PG. 76ers would be pretty nice rolling out a nice PG(Insert Up and Comer here), Jaylen Brown SG, Ingram SF, Noel PF, Okafor C. Saric off bench in 2017.   Figuring they get the 3rd and 4th pick if they get the Lakers pick. Could start competing for a title in 2018.

Or even possibile to get an established star. If Embid can ever play again of course. Embid and Brown or Ingram and first rounder for someone not happy.

If Embid ends of being as good as we all thought he needs to be a starter and get 15 to 20 shots a game. He would be traded.

 

 

[markfitz14Participant]

I think If Embiid gets healty the play him next year in the reserve role and hopefully boost his trade value. Try to trade Embid and say a 2017 or 18 First Rounder for a PG. 76ers would be pretty nice rolling out a nice PG(Insert Up and Comer here), Jaylen Brown SG, Ingram SF, Noel PF, Okafor C. Saric off bench in 2017.   Figuring they get the 3rd and 4th pick if they get the Lakers pick. Could start competing for a title in 2018.

Or even possibile to get an established star. If Embid can ever play again of course. Embid and Brown or Ingram and first rounder for someone not happy.

If Embid ends of being as good as we all thought he needs to be a starter and get 15 to 20 shots a game. He would be traded.

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

Who are you talking about when you are saying "He’s not like Cody Zeller and his limited opportunity"?

To not disrespect the talents in Karl-Anthony Towns and D’Angelo Russell, but I always thought Jahlil Okafor and Emmanuel Mudiay were the two best players in the draft. I still believe those two will be the best in this years draft along with Towns, Porzingis, and Winslow. 

Jahlil Okafor talents is unreal and I don’t remember the last time someone came iito this league at his age and shown this level of post moves, footwork, and touch. People will say that "you can’t win a championships with traditional bigs", but I would say "we didn’t have tradiotional bigs that built like Okafor that came into the league in a while". He have a spectacular iso game and I believe he tried to "Shammgod" Timofey Mozgov yesterday. He’s shooting 80% on ISO’s so far. 

I’m not a Sixers fan, but I love their future and I believe they might have a chance to have the best young core in the league with Dario Saric coming over next year (reported yesterday that he will opt out of his EURO deal), potential of 4 first rounders next season, Nerlens Noel, Jahlil Okafor, and Joel Embiid. 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 I said it at about May, and I’m gonna say it now. He will be the best player out of this draft. And he will be the ROY. Even if he does about half of what he’s doing right now with Philly, he’ll be ROY. I really love this kid, and think he was put in the PERFECT situation in Philly for his development. He’s not like Cody Zeller and his limited opportunity, he was put in Philly and immediately became the #1 option and it’s his perfect chance to shine.

[JordoParticipant]

I don

[JordoParticipant]

I don

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

He does have a good arsenal of post moves and ball handling for a big. However I just want to remind everyone that Philly is as stat padding team as it gets. generally all NBA teams score between 80-110… Which is well above most college bball teams total ppg averages. So someone got to get the points, the assists, and rebounds that look pretty appealing…  But let’s try to see him make this same statistical impact on a good team. Cause TJ McConnell did also get 12 assists in 23 mins… Even Evan Turner looked like a top wing in the nba at philly but when moved to an actual good team he was exposed as nothing more than a 7th man on an alright team. Im sure Jahlil will be a little more than that but I cant be too sold on any philly player.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 They were in the game and were winning by double digits against the Cavs and he faced one of the better defensive center in the league in Timofey Movgoz. 

Evan Turner never looked like a top wing with Philly and when he was with Philadelphia they were a really good eastern conference team that made the playoffs a couple years. 

And if you going off you logc that "if you are not playing on a good team, you suck till you play on a good team" then DeMarcus Cousins is not as good as everyone make out to believe and Kyrie Irving was only good last year because they couldn’t get win 35 games.

You can tell by watching games, not making assumptions, who’s good and who’s not. Jahlil Okafor is showing people what he can do in the NBA. Most would believe that he would struggle against the Cavs because of their lenght (like his predraft scouting report would bring up), but he took Mozgov to school. 

Given your name (SkalAndJamal) and how you talked about him before the season I would guess you are a Kentucky fan. I remember you were one of the main people bashing him and making post talking how he will be a bust and how he can’t be a good NBA player. 

You are basically saying "I don’t care how good he is in Philadelphia because he’s not on a good team" LOL

 

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

Haha ok still not answer for McConnell getting 12 assists too. I guess he’s the next John Stockton or something lol. Turner was averaging 21 ppg in one stretch and people were calling him one of the better wings… Idk why you are trying to say that is wrong.

I watched the game and Philly was never truly in it. It was obvious Cleveland just turned a switch on and stopped playing down to their competition.

Well Philly is pretty terrible and the Kings were solid last year until they messed up and fired Malone. when Philly can start the first 14 games of the season decent then we can talk. I was never even too sold Kyrie and Demarcus either but at least their teams have won more than 20 freakin games. I have always known he was great in the post, but basketball is more than just that. Kyrie is the real deal now and we will see what DeMarcus can do too.

And dont be trying to go by my name and my analysis. Mr. Chicago repping Chicago’s own Jahlil Okafor. I know he get #s on a bad team but if you are trying to say he is a superstar in the making, all im saying is slow down. Also I said Al Jefferson could definitely be the same career he has, and Al is pretty good. However Al aint nowhere near a superstar. 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 You clearly stated that "Evan Turner is now a 7th man and I expect Okafor will be a little better than that. LOL. 

To the McConnell point. He had a great game against Mo Williams (not a good defender). McConnell and Okafor is clearly two different talents. 

How was the 76ers "never truly in when they were up by 15 points. LOL. It would be different if they were losing by 15 in the game and he were going against backups, but it was a competitive game and he faced one of the best defenders in the league and he schooled him. You making it seem like Mozgov half-assed it and got lucky. 

On the DeMarcus Cousins take. You said the Kings was good till they fired Malone, but didn’t they fire Malone in like the early stages of the season. LOL. 

You judge players based on talent level, not because their team is not good. You can actually see Okafor play and he’s playing at an unbelievable level right now,

 

 

 

 

[TimberTrollParticipant]

 Can’t remember the last time a big came into the league and was as good as TOWNS!!!! This guy was supposed to be the best player in five years, not from day 1. 

[TimberTrollParticipant]

 Can’t remember the last time a big came into the league and was as good as TOWNS!!!! This guy was supposed to be the best player in five years, not from day 1. 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

A little bit was the wrong words, but the point is stats are inflated greatly on this team. 

 Look you are missing other points too. There are players who are on horrible teams that look a lot better than they actually are, it’s a fact. Now it’s only been four games but I’m just saying even if Okafor averages 20 and 7 for the rest of the season, the book should still be out on this kid if the Sixers continue to be terrible. Look at Melo and Wade, they both led solid teams their rookie years. At the end of the day, it’s about winning the game. How can you measure that for a guy who isnt. It’s not about talent it’s about the impact you make on winning. Draymond isn’t super talented but he has a great impact on the game.

McConnell counter is irrelevant, Cavs were coasting for most the game, Which some Sixers *cough cough Okafor* were going to benefit from that. 

Look i see he is a beauty to watch handling the ball and then making moves in the post. That rip through baseline, then spin back to middle move was amazing. However basketball is much more than that. We will just have to see, but my money is on that he cant be a top 2 PLAYER on a title contending team. Top 2 scorer sure, but player we will just have to see.

Let’s see Okafor win a game first.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Look at you acting like you know how teams effort level is. Now you are trying to justify your point by saying "the Cavs weren’t trying hard and that’s how he did so good". LOL. You are a joke. He’s a rookie and playing out of his mind and playing outstanding, Don’t try to make it out to be that he’s only good because other teams don’t play him hard and basically he’s force fed the ball. He’s not putting up empty stats because most of the games have been competitive for most of the games he played in. Just face the fact that he’s been great so far and stop trying to make stuff up for why he’s been dominate the first three games of his career.

So, the book is still out on DeMarcus Cousis, Andre Drummond, Kyrie Irving (before last season), Kevin Love (before last season), LeBron James (his rookie year), Karl-Anthony Towns, Gordon Hayward is not good because they didn’t win games to make the playoffs. You are a joke to the highest of levels. It don’t matter if Jahlil Okafor have the greatest season ever you will still try to find one thing that rest you case for why he had the worst season ever. 

Basketball is a teams sport and you can’t judge a single player based on team success. If you don’t get that you might be the most delusional troll on this site, worst then "T-Rex".

 

 

 

 

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Man skalandjamal why do you dislike jahlil so much? Haha. You’ve been bashing him like ever since he entered college.

And does not make an impact on the game and winning huh? Even if he’s attracting double/triple teams? Beating his man off the dribble and forcing a lot of helps? His prescence gives 76ers at least a slight chance to win, problem is their team consists of a bunch of d-leaguers. Your judging the rook way too much.

Put your draymond in the 76ers and lets see how much "impact" he will have on them winning and if he can lead them to the playoffs LOL.

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

Alright let’s see where he is and the 76ers are in 5 years.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

Alright let’s see where he is and the 76ers are in 5 years.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Dude is a clown. If acts like just because you are on a winning team means you are good and being on a bad team means you are not a good player. He try to write anything to make it seem like Jahlil is not good.

He’s a Kentucky fan, so I believe he’s one of those people that can’t help but help a player from Duke and that he can’t accept both him and Towns can be great. Dude have something out for Okafor.

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Dude is a clown. If acts like just because you are on a winning team means you are good and being on a bad team means you are not a good player. He try to write anything to make it seem like Jahlil is not good.

He’s a Kentucky fan, so I believe he’s one of those people that can’t help but help a player from Duke and that he can’t accept both him and Towns can be great. Dude have something out for Okafor.

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 is Jahlil your best friend? and I dont know how good Karl will be either calm down wtf. You cant be consider a legit freakin franchise player being on the worst team in the nba. stop acting like a child.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 is Jahlil your best friend? and I dont know how good Karl will be either calm down wtf. You cant be consider a legit freakin franchise player being on the worst team in the nba. stop acting like a child.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 To both of your post: Did Okafor have sex with your mother, sister, grandmother, and all your female relatives? LOL. You can’t have it both sides with that one dude.

You can be a legit franchise player on a losing team. LeBron was considered a franchise player w/o making the playoff the first 2 seasons. They said the same thing with Kevin Durant, John Wall, Kevin Love, DeMarcus Cousins and all great young players that appear to be that guy. You need to stop acting like a child and learn how to give credit when credit is due. 

And I bet you considerd Kyrie a franchise talent after his rookie season

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 To both of your post: Did Okafor have sex with your mother, sister, grandmother, and all your female relatives? LOL. You can’t have it both sides with that one dude.

You can be a legit franchise player on a losing team. LeBron was considered a franchise player w/o making the playoff the first 2 seasons. They said the same thing with Kevin Durant, John Wall, Kevin Love, DeMarcus Cousins and all great young players that appear to be that guy. You need to stop acting like a child and learn how to give credit when credit is due. 

And I bet you considerd Kyrie a franchise talent after his rookie season

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

lol funny im sure Jahlil typed that while Casey had a mouthful of Jah’s stick. 

yea the other post you are crying about me mentioning lebron and then literally this post made 2 mins later brings up Lebron. Very great debating skills

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

lol funny im sure Jahlil typed that while Casey had a mouthful of Jah’s stick. 

yea the other post you are crying about me mentioning lebron and then literally this post made 2 mins later brings up Lebron. Very great debating skills

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 What other posr? LOL

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 What other posr? LOL

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

Dont worry about it Jah just keep getting head from Casey.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

Dont worry about it Jah just keep getting head from Casey.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 I knew Kyrie was the real deal soooo stop acting like duke has anything to do with it. Stop acting like an idiot please.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 I knew Kyrie was the real deal soooo stop acting like duke has anything to do with it. Stop acting like an idiot please.

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Man skalandjamal why do you dislike jahlil so much? Haha. You’ve been bashing him like ever since he entered college.

And does not make an impact on the game and winning huh? Even if he’s attracting double/triple teams? Beating his man off the dribble and forcing a lot of helps? His prescence gives 76ers at least a slight chance to win, problem is their team consists of a bunch of d-leaguers. Your judging the rook way too much.

Put your draymond in the 76ers and lets see how much "impact" he will have on them winning and if he can lead them to the playoffs LOL.

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

LOL this is your logic right now. All the guys who put up bad numbers on the worst team in the nba werent good because they werent classified as  "talented" and McConnell who literally on the same damn team as Okafor, looked amazing, isnt good because he isnt "talented", but Okafor is this best thing since bread he is classified as "talented". Just say you love him cause he is from Chicago and let’s just end this convo.

 Yes the cavs were coasting… that’s why it took them only 8 mins to go from down 10 to up 10. You are acting like no one in the league knows this team is a freakin joke. You are delusional. 

It’s one thing to win 25-35 wins. but this 76ers is going to be historically bad, stop comparing them to other teams. 

Im sorry I believe guys winning games is important. Have fun watching him get numbers. Go look at Nikola Pekovic’s #s too from 2013-14, MCW’s rookie year, Michael Beasley’s 2010-11  #s, im sure you are will get hyped about these guys too like a little girl at at disneyland… oh wait they arent from chicago so probably not. 

Also Kobe won with freakin Smush parker, kwame brown, and Luke Walton in the starting lineup… LeBron got to the finals with NOTHING! so if you dont get how much an impact the best player can have on the game than I guess basketball just isnt the sport for you.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 OMG. Now you claiming that because he’s from Chicago that’s why I believe he’s been great so far. You are a straight clown that cannot accept the fact that you are proven to be wrong. You try to find one thing to try to justify your argument, but the arguments that you use are invalid arguments due to the fact that most of the great players in the NBA didn’t win right away and most of the players hot put into bad situations. You just seem like a biased Kentucky fan that can’t say one good thing about him. Everytime Jahlil Okafor is mention you try to find one negative thing or you have nothing positive to say. You just seem hurt.

It’s a clear difference between Jahlil Okafor start to the season than TJ McConnell game last game. You’d expect more games like that and see the things Okafor did on the regular. If you do not understand the game Okafor had last night and the game McConnell had last night then you will never understand. Jahlil Okafor is a transcended talent that shown what he could do all of his life, he’s 19 years old, and he showing skills that a hand full of players have in the NBA. McConnell had a fantastic game and shown that he belongs in the NBA. He did not have a game like Okafor that you can say "Hmmm… he can do this on the regular", Okafor did. He made outstanding post moves against one of the best defenders in the league making him look like Brook Lopez in defense.

I didn’t know it’s a difference from being bad and being bad bad. You said "if you not winning so you have to prove yourself". Sometime you just make stupids points. The 76ers didn’t even have the worst record in the past 2 seasons. I believe the Knicks had the worst record last year and Melo played for the Knicks, so is Melo garbage and have to prove more because he didn’t lead his team to the playoffs. Dwyane Wade also didn’t fo to the playoffs, so do he have something to prove and he’s overrated. You are a clown.

Jahlil Okafor is not a LeBron/Kobe level talent. LeBron didn’t take his team to the playoffs to his 3rd year, same with John Wall and Kevin Durant. So do we suppose to discredit their first 2 years? Nope. And I do believe the great Kobe Bryant miss the playoffs w/o Shaq, So, is Kobe have something to prove and overrated?. LOL. CLOWN.

  

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 OMG. Now you claiming that because he’s from Chicago that’s why I believe he’s been great so far. You are a straight clown that cannot accept the fact that you are proven to be wrong. You try to find one thing to try to justify your argument, but the arguments that you use are invalid arguments due to the fact that most of the great players in the NBA didn’t win right away and most of the players hot put into bad situations. You just seem like a biased Kentucky fan that can’t say one good thing about him. Everytime Jahlil Okafor is mention you try to find one negative thing or you have nothing positive to say. You just seem hurt.

It’s a clear difference between Jahlil Okafor start to the season than TJ McConnell game last game. You’d expect more games like that and see the things Okafor did on the regular. If you do not understand the game Okafor had last night and the game McConnell had last night then you will never understand. Jahlil Okafor is a transcended talent that shown what he could do all of his life, he’s 19 years old, and he showing skills that a hand full of players have in the NBA. McConnell had a fantastic game and shown that he belongs in the NBA. He did not have a game like Okafor that you can say "Hmmm… he can do this on the regular", Okafor did. He made outstanding post moves against one of the best defenders in the league making him look like Brook Lopez in defense.

I didn’t know it’s a difference from being bad and being bad bad. You said "if you not winning so you have to prove yourself". Sometime you just make stupids points. The 76ers didn’t even have the worst record in the past 2 seasons. I believe the Knicks had the worst record last year and Melo played for the Knicks, so is Melo garbage and have to prove more because he didn’t lead his team to the playoffs. Dwyane Wade also didn’t fo to the playoffs, so do he have something to prove and he’s overrated. You are a clown.

Jahlil Okafor is not a LeBron/Kobe level talent. LeBron didn’t take his team to the playoffs to his 3rd year, same with John Wall and Kevin Durant. So do we suppose to discredit their first 2 years? Nope. And I do believe the great Kobe Bryant miss the playoffs w/o Shaq, So, is Kobe have something to prove and overrated?. LOL. CLOWN.

  

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 you heart is clearly invested in this guy. That’s really beautiful. I literally said he can be like Al Jefferson how is that bad lol? You just miss points left and right, its getting really annoying now.

 Anyways last year sixers won 18 games, expect nothing too different this year with your boy. Im done arguing with you. How about you go watch some old highlights of Al Jefferson in 2009-10, Beasley in 2010-11, Pekovic highlights, Tobias Harris 2012-13 highlights you can go argue with yourself of how Jahlil is doing so much more for his team than these guys did. 

And yes Melo playing 40 games last year is a very valid point, you are just such a great debater.

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 you heart is clearly invested in this guy. That’s really beautiful. I literally said he can be like Al Jefferson how is that bad lol? You just miss points left and right, its getting really annoying now.

 Anyways last year sixers won 18 games, expect nothing too different this year with your boy. Im done arguing with you. How about you go watch some old highlights of Al Jefferson in 2009-10, Beasley in 2010-11, Pekovic highlights, Tobias Harris 2012-13 highlights you can go argue with yourself of how Jahlil is doing so much more for his team than these guys did. 

And yes Melo playing 40 games last year is a very valid point, you are just such a great debater.

 

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 LOL. I clearly have something invested in him. See this folks when you don’t have anything intellectual to say you try to insult someone or try to joke around. We are having a discussion that you clearly  have a bias towards given all you post you nothing but bad things to say.

Yes, the 76ers won 18 games last year. But, I have a serious question, did Okafor play last year? I do not believe so. So I do not know why you even bring up the past when talking about a player that clearly have nothing to do with previous Sixers teams. It’s pretty hillarious how you bring up players that are not good anymore or players that’s not great. It’s pretty obvious you having bias takes to make your point because you can bring up the Tobias Harris, Nikola Pekovic, and Michael  Beasley.  But, you can also look at LeBron James rookie highlights when his team was pretty bad, Kevin Durant rookie highlights when his team was pretty bad, and all the great players that came into the league that had a pretty bad supporting cast. LOL.

And it’s funny about your MELO take. The Knicks was still garbage last year with him. You are such a great debater.

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 LOL. I clearly have something invested in him. See this folks when you don’t have anything intellectual to say you try to insult someone or try to joke around. We are having a discussion that you clearly  have a bias towards given all you post you nothing but bad things to say.

Yes, the 76ers won 18 games last year. But, I have a serious question, did Okafor play last year? I do not believe so. So I do not know why you even bring up the past when talking about a player that clearly have nothing to do with previous Sixers teams. It’s pretty hillarious how you bring up players that are not good anymore or players that’s not great. It’s pretty obvious you having bias takes to make your point because you can bring up the Tobias Harris, Nikola Pekovic, and Michael  Beasley.  But, you can also look at LeBron James rookie highlights when his team was pretty bad, Kevin Durant rookie highlights when his team was pretty bad, and all the great players that came into the league that had a pretty bad supporting cast. LOL.

And it’s funny about your MELO take. The Knicks was still garbage last year with him. You are such a great debater.

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

scroll down son Im a believer!

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

scroll down son Im a believer!

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

LOL this is your logic right now. All the guys who put up bad numbers on the worst team in the nba werent good because they werent classified as  "talented" and McConnell who literally on the same damn team as Okafor, looked amazing, isnt good because he isnt "talented", but Okafor is this best thing since bread he is classified as "talented". Just say you love him cause he is from Chicago and let’s just end this convo.

 Yes the cavs were coasting… that’s why it took them only 8 mins to go from down 10 to up 10. You are acting like no one in the league knows this team is a freakin joke. You are delusional. 

It’s one thing to win 25-35 wins. but this 76ers is going to be historically bad, stop comparing them to other teams. 

Im sorry I believe guys winning games is important. Have fun watching him get numbers. Go look at Nikola Pekovic’s #s too from 2013-14, MCW’s rookie year, Michael Beasley’s 2010-11  #s, im sure you are will get hyped about these guys too like a little girl at at disneyland… oh wait they arent from chicago so probably not. 

Also Kobe won with freakin Smush parker, kwame brown, and Luke Walton in the starting lineup… LeBron got to the finals with NOTHING! so if you dont get how much an impact the best player can have on the game than I guess basketball just isnt the sport for you.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Look at you acting like you know how teams effort level is. Now you are trying to justify your point by saying "the Cavs weren’t trying hard and that’s how he did so good". LOL. You are a joke. He’s a rookie and playing out of his mind and playing outstanding, Don’t try to make it out to be that he’s only good because other teams don’t play him hard and basically he’s force fed the ball. He’s not putting up empty stats because most of the games have been competitive for most of the games he played in. Just face the fact that he’s been great so far and stop trying to make stuff up for why he’s been dominate the first three games of his career.

So, the book is still out on DeMarcus Cousis, Andre Drummond, Kyrie Irving (before last season), Kevin Love (before last season), LeBron James (his rookie year), Karl-Anthony Towns, Gordon Hayward is not good because they didn’t win games to make the playoffs. You are a joke to the highest of levels. It don’t matter if Jahlil Okafor have the greatest season ever you will still try to find one thing that rest you case for why he had the worst season ever. 

Basketball is a teams sport and you can’t judge a single player based on team success. If you don’t get that you might be the most delusional troll on this site, worst then "T-Rex".

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

A little bit was the wrong words, but the point is stats are inflated greatly on this team. 

 Look you are missing other points too. There are players who are on horrible teams that look a lot better than they actually are, it’s a fact. Now it’s only been four games but I’m just saying even if Okafor averages 20 and 7 for the rest of the season, the book should still be out on this kid if the Sixers continue to be terrible. Look at Melo and Wade, they both led solid teams their rookie years. At the end of the day, it’s about winning the game. How can you measure that for a guy who isnt. It’s not about talent it’s about the impact you make on winning. Draymond isn’t super talented but he has a great impact on the game.

McConnell counter is irrelevant, Cavs were coasting for most the game, Which some Sixers *cough cough Okafor* were going to benefit from that. 

Look i see he is a beauty to watch handling the ball and then making moves in the post. That rip through baseline, then spin back to middle move was amazing. However basketball is much more than that. We will just have to see, but my money is on that he cant be a top 2 PLAYER on a title contending team. Top 2 scorer sure, but player we will just have to see.

Let’s see Okafor win a game first.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 You clearly stated that "Evan Turner is now a 7th man and I expect Okafor will be a little better than that. LOL. 

To the McConnell point. He had a great game against Mo Williams (not a good defender). McConnell and Okafor is clearly two different talents. 

How was the 76ers "never truly in when they were up by 15 points. LOL. It would be different if they were losing by 15 in the game and he were going against backups, but it was a competitive game and he faced one of the best defenders in the league and he schooled him. You making it seem like Mozgov half-assed it and got lucky. 

On the DeMarcus Cousins take. You said the Kings was good till they fired Malone, but didn’t they fire Malone in like the early stages of the season. LOL. 

You judge players based on talent level, not because their team is not good. You can actually see Okafor play and he’s playing at an unbelievable level right now,

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

Haha ok still not answer for McConnell getting 12 assists too. I guess he’s the next John Stockton or something lol. Turner was averaging 21 ppg in one stretch and people were calling him one of the better wings… Idk why you are trying to say that is wrong.

I watched the game and Philly was never truly in it. It was obvious Cleveland just turned a switch on and stopped playing down to their competition.

Well Philly is pretty terrible and the Kings were solid last year until they messed up and fired Malone. when Philly can start the first 14 games of the season decent then we can talk. I was never even too sold Kyrie and Demarcus either but at least their teams have won more than 20 freakin games. I have always known he was great in the post, but basketball is more than just that. Kyrie is the real deal now and we will see what DeMarcus can do too.

And dont be trying to go by my name and my analysis. Mr. Chicago repping Chicago’s own Jahlil Okafor. I know he get #s on a bad team but if you are trying to say he is a superstar in the making, all im saying is slow down. Also I said Al Jefferson could definitely be the same career he has, and Al is pretty good. However Al aint nowhere near a superstar. 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 They were in the game and were winning by double digits against the Cavs and he faced one of the better defensive center in the league in Timofey Movgoz. 

Evan Turner never looked like a top wing with Philly and when he was with Philadelphia they were a really good eastern conference team that made the playoffs a couple years. 

And if you going off you logc that "if you are not playing on a good team, you suck till you play on a good team" then DeMarcus Cousins is not as good as everyone make out to believe and Kyrie Irving was only good last year because they couldn’t get win 35 games.

You can tell by watching games, not making assumptions, who’s good and who’s not. Jahlil Okafor is showing people what he can do in the NBA. Most would believe that he would struggle against the Cavs because of their lenght (like his predraft scouting report would bring up), but he took Mozgov to school. 

Given your name (SkalAndJamal) and how you talked about him before the season I would guess you are a Kentucky fan. I remember you were one of the main people bashing him and making post talking how he will be a bust and how he can’t be a good NBA player. 

You are basically saying "I don’t care how good he is in Philadelphia because he’s not on a good team" LOL

 

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

He does have a good arsenal of post moves and ball handling for a big. However I just want to remind everyone that Philly is as stat padding team as it gets. generally all NBA teams score between 80-110… Which is well above most college bball teams total ppg averages. So someone got to get the points, the assists, and rebounds that look pretty appealing…  But let’s try to see him make this same statistical impact on a good team. Cause TJ McConnell did also get 12 assists in 23 mins… Even Evan Turner looked like a top wing in the nba at philly but when moved to an actual good team he was exposed as nothing more than a 7th man on an alright team. Im sure Jahlil will be a little more than that but I cant be too sold on any philly player.

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 about him – Utah was pounding Phila by 25 the other night. And in the 4th quater w/ the game decided, Okafor & Gobert went to War – Gobert blocked a couple & Okafor out-muscled him & scored a couple on Gobert (who is Def going to win at least one DPOY) & on one play Okafor was knocked down & Gobert reached down to help him up – you could tell he respected the kid who at 19 is 4 years younger than Gobert…

Against Cleveland’s front court he just abused all 3 of them – Mozgov, Thompson & Love all either got bulldozed & scored on or finessed & scored on… The kid has Unbelievable talent & if Phila had ANYone who could shoot & space the floor Okafor could score 30+ Every night as a Rookie – I know that sounds crazy, but he’s the Only person on that team who can score… & he’s got endless post moves w/ Either hand…

 

[trombonematrix43Participant]

I think I agree with you on that statement with the 30 plus a game. Imagine if the 76ers put together a team with serious back court and wing talent,(not knocking who they have now, but lets say in two years when they turn these picks into players) it will be pick your poison for the opposing defense because letting Okafor face a guy one on one in the low post…he’s gonna get his real quick. Alright…done drooling over Jahlil… 

[trombonematrix43Participant]

I think I agree with you on that statement with the 30 plus a game. Imagine if the 76ers put together a team with serious back court and wing talent,(not knocking who they have now, but lets say in two years when they turn these picks into players) it will be pick your poison for the opposing defense because letting Okafor face a guy one on one in the low post…he’s gonna get his real quick. Alright…done drooling over Jahlil… 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 about him – Utah was pounding Phila by 25 the other night. And in the 4th quater w/ the game decided, Okafor & Gobert went to War – Gobert blocked a couple & Okafor out-muscled him & scored a couple on Gobert (who is Def going to win at least one DPOY) & on one play Okafor was knocked down & Gobert reached down to help him up – you could tell he respected the kid who at 19 is 4 years younger than Gobert…

Against Cleveland’s front court he just abused all 3 of them – Mozgov, Thompson & Love all either got bulldozed & scored on or finessed & scored on… The kid has Unbelievable talent & if Phila had ANYone who could shoot & space the floor Okafor could score 30+ Every night as a Rookie – I know that sounds crazy, but he’s the Only person on that team who can score… & he’s got endless post moves w/ Either hand…

 

[tuck243Participant]

KAT is better than expected, so I think that was the right pick for them..   Honestly they could’ve went any way and been cool.   I just don’t understand the Lakers choice.   It was stupid and even though this is turning into a PG league, only one championship team in the past 20 years was lead by the PG.   That’s the Warriors…   You still have to get easy buckets and majority of those come in the post.   See what happened when LeBron went down there?  He won a championship…  And if the Warriors played against a more talented Cavs team, I’m not sure if they would’ve won a ring.   Iggy and Barnes might as well been taking lay ups because they had wide open shots….

But to my point…   I’m looking at every team in the NBA.  There are only 3-4 teams that don’t have money invested in a PG or just recently selected one for the future.   Next year and the year after we will see additional game changing PG’s…   A big man with Jahlil skills though?   You’re waiting YEARS for that.   Lakers are dumb.

   

 

 

[tuck243Participant]

KAT is better than expected, so I think that was the right pick for them..   Honestly they could’ve went any way and been cool.   I just don’t understand the Lakers choice.   It was stupid and even though this is turning into a PG league, only one championship team in the past 20 years was lead by the PG.   That’s the Warriors…   You still have to get easy buckets and majority of those come in the post.   See what happened when LeBron went down there?  He won a championship…  And if the Warriors played against a more talented Cavs team, I’m not sure if they would’ve won a ring.   Iggy and Barnes might as well been taking lay ups because they had wide open shots….

But to my point…   I’m looking at every team in the NBA.  There are only 3-4 teams that don’t have money invested in a PG or just recently selected one for the future.   Next year and the year after we will see additional game changing PG’s…   A big man with Jahlil skills though?   You’re waiting YEARS for that.   Lakers are dumb.

   

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

wow.  i kind of respected your knowledge, but now your biases are out there.

The kid def had questions coming in, on his defense and rebounding.  There was even one series during this game where someone came driving in the Paint, and any big man would’ve jumped and attempted to block the shot, but Oak just watched the play, I was kind of dumbfounded.

But watching him bang with the big boys is impressive.  He can do it all, he has great footwork.  He will beat you off the first step if you are a slower big man, and he’ll pound you like he did Kevin Love, lol, that wasn’t fair to the newly mustached gritty tough guy that is Love (focus less on looks and more on the gym Kevin).

E. Turner was so limited athletically, shaky jumper, took bad shots, but having said that, he’s a solid NBA player.  He is serviceable, a good player at what he’s doing right now, but if he was something to keep the Sixers wodln’t have traded him away.

This is important, Oak can be more dominant.  He gets frustrated and I feel it.  Sixers guards are generally horrible, thoguh TJ had a good game yesterday (give him credit, he sucked against Utah, he played well yesterday).  But the PGs are still playing with a 40 second shot clock, dribbling the ball way too much, letting the shot clock come down to the last few seconds before anyone can take the shot, and Oak doesn’t want to take bad shots.   Need to get Oak the ball in the post, at least let him touch it so that he can pass it back out.  DO NOT let Hollis Thompson, or Jerami Grant neither of whom has the ability or strength to finish, go hard at the rim while your best offensive weapon who is 275 lbs and ran up and down the court just watches you clumsy fools screw up.  

PGs need to feed Okafor better.  I watch him and once he gets the ball he gives it to Stauskas because Stauskas knows how to amke smart plays.  Okafor, is a highly intelligent ballplayer, he gets how to play.  He hates how his teammates make bad play after bad play, and Nerlens contributes to that.  Nerlens just needs to be a high energy guy, the offense doesn’t need to run through him.  Okafor, Stauskas, and not Wroten but Kendall Marshall are signs of what is to come for this offense.  

 

 

 

 

 

  

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 you’re just salty cause I destroyed you in that Westbrook debate.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 you’re just salty cause I destroyed you in that Westbrook debate.

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

wow.  i kind of respected your knowledge, but now your biases are out there.

The kid def had questions coming in, on his defense and rebounding.  There was even one series during this game where someone came driving in the Paint, and any big man would’ve jumped and attempted to block the shot, but Oak just watched the play, I was kind of dumbfounded.

But watching him bang with the big boys is impressive.  He can do it all, he has great footwork.  He will beat you off the first step if you are a slower big man, and he’ll pound you like he did Kevin Love, lol, that wasn’t fair to the newly mustached gritty tough guy that is Love (focus less on looks and more on the gym Kevin).

E. Turner was so limited athletically, shaky jumper, took bad shots, but having said that, he’s a solid NBA player.  He is serviceable, a good player at what he’s doing right now, but if he was something to keep the Sixers wodln’t have traded him away.

This is important, Oak can be more dominant.  He gets frustrated and I feel it.  Sixers guards are generally horrible, thoguh TJ had a good game yesterday (give him credit, he sucked against Utah, he played well yesterday).  But the PGs are still playing with a 40 second shot clock, dribbling the ball way too much, letting the shot clock come down to the last few seconds before anyone can take the shot, and Oak doesn’t want to take bad shots.   Need to get Oak the ball in the post, at least let him touch it so that he can pass it back out.  DO NOT let Hollis Thompson, or Jerami Grant neither of whom has the ability or strength to finish, go hard at the rim while your best offensive weapon who is 275 lbs and ran up and down the court just watches you clumsy fools screw up.  

PGs need to feed Okafor better.  I watch him and once he gets the ball he gives it to Stauskas because Stauskas knows how to amke smart plays.  Okafor, is a highly intelligent ballplayer, he gets how to play.  He hates how his teammates make bad play after bad play, and Nerlens contributes to that.  Nerlens just needs to be a high energy guy, the offense doesn’t need to run through him.  Okafor, Stauskas, and not Wroten but Kendall Marshall are signs of what is to come for this offense.  

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Andrew1984Participant]

 I think Jaylen Brown and Brandon Ingram will both play their way out of the top 10 this year. Jamaal Murray will be a riser. Murray will go top five, maybe even top three. 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Jaylen Brown honestly didn’t impress me at all in all the HS AS games.  He had zero skill.  Maybe he is a guy where some open space will open up the floor for him, but he had zero skill, so I didn’t get the hype beyond athleticism.

He made a poor decision to go to UCLA, or maybe good for him.  UCLA is not what it was, they don’t face teh same criticism and hype as at Kansas/Kentucky.  The West Coast for college ball is known to be a little softer basketball.  So it may be good for him, but it may have been a scapegoat route so that he can avoid the pressure to perform like he faced in the HS AS games, where he showed very little.

Ingram is the complete opposite of Brown.  Ingram is all skill and IQ.  Coach K said "he’s just a good basketball player" He can play anywhere.  Those guys as long as they have some athleticism, are destined to play anywhere.

I saw kentucky’s first game, and Jamal Murray comes off another very smart player, but a player who did not seem to have his legs under him.  Ottawa guards were hustling and he was chasing.  But, he’s a stabilizing force on a team.  He looks a little limited athletically honestly, but i’d take him any day of the week over a dumb player like Isiah Briscoe.  

So I’d go Ingram > Murray > Brown by far.  

 

 

 

  

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 Jaylen brown goes to CAL not UCLA and when you’re as athletic as he is you don’t need to really use skill when playing against high school competition. The kid is good. He even took down Ben Simmons and Monteverde when they played. He does have skill though. Kinda reminds me of Derozan. 

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 Jaylen brown goes to CAL not UCLA and when you’re as athletic as he is you don’t need to really use skill when playing against high school competition. The kid is good. He even took down Ben Simmons and Monteverde when they played. He does have skill though. Kinda reminds me of Derozan. 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Jaylen Brown honestly didn’t impress me at all in all the HS AS games.  He had zero skill.  Maybe he is a guy where some open space will open up the floor for him, but he had zero skill, so I didn’t get the hype beyond athleticism.

He made a poor decision to go to UCLA, or maybe good for him.  UCLA is not what it was, they don’t face teh same criticism and hype as at Kansas/Kentucky.  The West Coast for college ball is known to be a little softer basketball.  So it may be good for him, but it may have been a scapegoat route so that he can avoid the pressure to perform like he faced in the HS AS games, where he showed very little.

Ingram is the complete opposite of Brown.  Ingram is all skill and IQ.  Coach K said "he’s just a good basketball player" He can play anywhere.  Those guys as long as they have some athleticism, are destined to play anywhere.

I saw kentucky’s first game, and Jamal Murray comes off another very smart player, but a player who did not seem to have his legs under him.  Ottawa guards were hustling and he was chasing.  But, he’s a stabilizing force on a team.  He looks a little limited athletically honestly, but i’d take him any day of the week over a dumb player like Isiah Briscoe.  

So I’d go Ingram > Murray > Brown by far.  

 

 

 

  

[Andrew1984Participant]

 I think Jaylen Brown and Brandon Ingram will both play their way out of the top 10 this year. Jamaal Murray will be a riser. Murray will go top five, maybe even top three. 

[negguaryParticipant]

to your comment to okafor not putting up numbers on a good team…..OKAFOR would be the final piece on a contending team, sorry!

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

With what proof? what he did at Duke? hahahahaha

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

With what proof? what he did at Duke? hahahahaha

[negguaryParticipant]

to your comment to okafor not putting up numbers on a good team…..OKAFOR would be the final piece on a contending team, sorry!

[markfitz14Participant]

I think they have done a great job of building the team through the draft. They get so musch shit for tanking. I just don’t get that. SMH. We all love prospects thats why we are on this site. It takes time but they eventually will have several top players in the leauge on the team. Other mid level teams that will be stuck in the middle becuase they didn’t tank will be wondering why they didn’t just tank.  

Chicago Casey hit it spot on. Okafor is putting in work on opposing defense. I even saw a few plays were he hit some jumpers from the top corner of the key. That was an imperssive stroke. If he can shot like that he must be able to have a decent FT%. I was most blown away be the way the ball leaves his hand in the post. It floats so smothly reminds me of great offensive players like Duncan or Shaq. Just the way the ball leaves his hand that is people!

Okafor nick name possibility- The Oak Tree because he lower body or roots are massive. lol

 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 bashed so much by the National Media when usually the press completely ignores bad teams so I looked into where they were when their new GM was hired & where they are now & B/c it was just 2 + years ago that they realized Bynum was Never going to play & they had just given away their best players & draft picks for nothing…

When you really look at what their GM has done it’s amazing… Hinkie was hired in May of 2013 & they had No good players – ZERO & the previous GM had traded away their 2015 & 2017 first round picks… 

So if a new GM gets 5 years they usually have Something to work with… This guy had 3 first round picks between 2013& 2017 (5 Drafts) and in just two years – & he somehow turned that into 11 first round picks most of them Lottery picks! Noel, Embiid, Stauskus, Saric & Okafor are ALL top 10 Lottery picks – they have 4 first round picks in 2016 & 2 in 2017 (&2 more in 2018)…

 They have So many high first round picks that they aren’t going to be able to fit them all on one team…I don;t know what else the guy could do given what he had to work with…. "The Oak Tree" is a Beast – he is Torching NBA Vets in the paint & he’s a teenager… But thx to the Press the Sixers are radioactive – you can’t say Anything good about them or people go nuts… Golden State won 26, 29, 36 & 23 games between 2009 -2012 (clearly tanking) & the press never says a word… L.A. & N.Y. tanked the whole 2015 season & not a word from the media… but people are starting to see they have something good going on there… but it takes time…

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 bashed so much by the National Media when usually the press completely ignores bad teams so I looked into where they were when their new GM was hired & where they are now & B/c it was just 2 + years ago that they realized Bynum was Never going to play & they had just given away their best players & draft picks for nothing…

When you really look at what their GM has done it’s amazing… Hinkie was hired in May of 2013 & they had No good players – ZERO & the previous GM had traded away their 2015 & 2017 first round picks… 

So if a new GM gets 5 years they usually have Something to work with… This guy had 3 first round picks between 2013& 2017 (5 Drafts) and in just two years – & he somehow turned that into 11 first round picks most of them Lottery picks! Noel, Embiid, Stauskus, Saric & Okafor are ALL top 10 Lottery picks – they have 4 first round picks in 2016 & 2 in 2017 (&2 more in 2018)…

 They have So many high first round picks that they aren’t going to be able to fit them all on one team…I don;t know what else the guy could do given what he had to work with…. "The Oak Tree" is a Beast – he is Torching NBA Vets in the paint & he’s a teenager… But thx to the Press the Sixers are radioactive – you can’t say Anything good about them or people go nuts… Golden State won 26, 29, 36 & 23 games between 2009 -2012 (clearly tanking) & the press never says a word… L.A. & N.Y. tanked the whole 2015 season & not a word from the media… but people are starting to see they have something good going on there… but it takes time…

 

 

[markfitz14Participant]

I think they have done a great job of building the team through the draft. They get so musch shit for tanking. I just don’t get that. SMH. We all love prospects thats why we are on this site. It takes time but they eventually will have several top players in the leauge on the team. Other mid level teams that will be stuck in the middle becuase they didn’t tank will be wondering why they didn’t just tank.  

Chicago Casey hit it spot on. Okafor is putting in work on opposing defense. I even saw a few plays were he hit some jumpers from the top corner of the key. That was an imperssive stroke. If he can shot like that he must be able to have a decent FT%. I was most blown away be the way the ball leaves his hand in the post. It floats so smothly reminds me of great offensive players like Duncan or Shaq. Just the way the ball leaves his hand that is people!

Okafor nick name possibility- The Oak Tree because he lower body or roots are massive. lol

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

I love the nickname The Oak for him!

People talk about Okafor not having as much upside as other players. THis may be true but if you’ve got a 6ft 10ins 280lbs 20/10 post player you can rely on then you can build around him. Noel will provide the energy and length on defence, Embiid if or when he gets on court gives a nice mix around them.

I would not worry too much about reasons not to draft Ben Simmons at this moment, if the team are still 22-60 aprox at the end of this year then there is a strong case for taking BPA unless you already have a huge log jam at that player’s position.

I could see the 76ers using Simmons as SF and there are still 96 front court minutes so you could play Noel, Oak and Embliid for nearly 30 mpg and still use Simmons for some time at PF.

Ingram, Brown or Murray would also be good fits for the 76ers IMO. If one of the other picks come over then I’d like to see them take someone like Caris LeVert who is now an NCAA senior and should be NBA ready. He’d be an ideal 6th man type role for the 76ers.

[HitsterParticipant]

I love the nickname The Oak for him!

People talk about Okafor not having as much upside as other players. THis may be true but if you’ve got a 6ft 10ins 280lbs 20/10 post player you can rely on then you can build around him. Noel will provide the energy and length on defence, Embiid if or when he gets on court gives a nice mix around them.

I would not worry too much about reasons not to draft Ben Simmons at this moment, if the team are still 22-60 aprox at the end of this year then there is a strong case for taking BPA unless you already have a huge log jam at that player’s position.

I could see the 76ers using Simmons as SF and there are still 96 front court minutes so you could play Noel, Oak and Embliid for nearly 30 mpg and still use Simmons for some time at PF.

Ingram, Brown or Murray would also be good fits for the 76ers IMO. If one of the other picks come over then I’d like to see them take someone like Caris LeVert who is now an NCAA senior and should be NBA ready. He’d be an ideal 6th man type role for the 76ers.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 Look the day Jahlil drops 20 and 10 and gets the win against DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol I’ll shut up.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 Look the day Jahlil drops 20 and 10 and gets the win against DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol I’ll shut up.

[invalidParticipant]

 "I believe only 5 players in the 40 years scored 60 points while shooting over 50% from the field in their first three games." – yeah right, from top of the head.. ha

[invalidParticipant]

 "I believe only 5 players in the 40 years scored 60 points while shooting over 50% from the field in their first three games." – yeah right, from top of the head.. ha

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 LOL. I believe I had read something on that on twitter last night. I didn’t know the exact number. 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 LOL. I believe I had read something on that on twitter last night. I didn’t know the exact number. 

[I May Be WrongParticipant]

 SkalAndJamal is probably starting up a quick match on 2k and dominating Jahzilla with Zaza Pachullia as we speak!

"TAKE THAT, JAHLIL!" 
"NOT SO GOOD!"
"I TOLD Y’ALL!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

[I May Be WrongParticipant]

 SkalAndJamal is probably starting up a quick match on 2k and dominating Jahzilla with Zaza Pachullia as we speak!

"TAKE THAT, JAHLIL!" 
"NOT SO GOOD!"
"I TOLD Y’ALL!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 hahahahaha alright obviously this was a bad topic to debate about because how good he turns out will take a pretty long time to figure out and im not going to be on nbadraft.net long enough for that to happen. But whatever all you guys win. hes the best center since Shaq, better than Duncan right now, should start in the all-star game every year till he retires.

sixers nba champions 2016, Jahlil finals mvp, 30 and 30.

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 hahahahaha alright obviously this was a bad topic to debate about because how good he turns out will take a pretty long time to figure out and im not going to be on nbadraft.net long enough for that to happen. But whatever all you guys win. hes the best center since Shaq, better than Duncan right now, should start in the all-star game every year till he retires.

sixers nba champions 2016, Jahlil finals mvp, 30 and 30.

 

[ncballer]

 I think Okafor was the lowest risk pick in the draft, and he is certainly showing it from a scoring perspective right now.  It’s really hard to deny the evidence right now.  He has really advanced post moves (we all knew that going in).

I think one part of his game (aside from the impressive 24 points in 27 minutes) is going SEVERELY overlooked was 3 rebounds in that time.  That is unacceptable in my opinion.  He is still young, and has all the tools to be an elite rebounder, so I will hold out on making a cemented statement on him either way at the moment.  

My jury is still undecided on him as a cornerstone, but as a high level starter in the league, I am sold on him.  

 

 

[ncballer]

 I think Okafor was the lowest risk pick in the draft, and he is certainly showing it from a scoring perspective right now.  It’s really hard to deny the evidence right now.  He has really advanced post moves (we all knew that going in).

I think one part of his game (aside from the impressive 24 points in 27 minutes) is going SEVERELY overlooked was 3 rebounds in that time.  That is unacceptable in my opinion.  He is still young, and has all the tools to be an elite rebounder, so I will hold out on making a cemented statement on him either way at the moment.  

My jury is still undecided on him as a cornerstone, but as a high level starter in the league, I am sold on him.  

 

 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 He’s a generational post scorer. I don’t think anyone doubted this. The concern has always been his rebounding, shooting and defensive woes. Obviously, he has plenty of time to approve but in today’s league it’s hard to win when your center doesn’t defend the rim. He’s having a great start, but can you build a championship team with him at the 5? The jury is still out. I don’t think that’s a controversial statement. 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 He’s a generational post scorer. I don’t think anyone doubted this. The concern has always been his rebounding, shooting and defensive woes. Obviously, he has plenty of time to approve but in today’s league it’s hard to win when your center doesn’t defend the rim. He’s having a great start, but can you build a championship team with him at the 5? The jury is still out. I don’t think that’s a controversial statement. 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 thats what im saying but it’s like im insulting their mothers or something…

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 thats what im saying but it’s like im insulting their mothers or something…

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Noel and Embiid.

ALso, you don’t necessarily need to be swatting balls.  All you need to do is alter shots.  Boston’s guards in game 1 were wary of going anywhere near the bucket with both Jah and Noel in there.

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Noel and Embiid.

ALso, you don’t necessarily need to be swatting balls.  All you need to do is alter shots.  Boston’s guards in game 1 were wary of going anywhere near the bucket with both Jah and Noel in there.

  

[sheltwon3Participant]

 Jahlil is going to be a solid NBA player.  I think a lot of people forget he was almost taken first.  I still think for the team they have Lakers going with Russel was the right move but Okafor came in with legit NBA skills that transfer better on Philly than if he played with Kobe, Randle, and the rest in LA.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 Jahlil is going to be a solid NBA player.  I think a lot of people forget he was almost taken first.  I still think for the team they have Lakers going with Russel was the right move but Okafor came in with legit NBA skills that transfer better on Philly than if he played with Kobe, Randle, and the rest in LA.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 Jahlil is going to be a solid NBA player.  I think a lot of people forget he was almost taken first.  I still think for the team they have Lakers going with Russel was the right move but Okafor came in with legit NBA skills that transfer better on Philly than if he played with Kobe, Randle, and the rest in LA.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 Jahlil is going to be a solid NBA player.  I think a lot of people forget he was almost taken first.  I still think for the team they have Lakers going with Russel was the right move but Okafor came in with legit NBA skills that transfer better on Philly than if he played with Kobe, Randle, and the rest in LA.

[HitsterParticipant]

Okafor was in the top 3 of nearly all major mock drafts for all of last season and no doubt T-Wolves and Lakers both looked at him before they chose KAT and Russell. Even if Philly had taken Porz then I could not have seen Okafor sliding past the Knicks at 4.

There are questions about his defence but he has Noel and hopefully Embliid to play around him and he can concentrate on his scoring. The guy is supposed to be highly teachable, has spent a year under Coach K and even if he isn’t an elite defender. he looks as if he will have the know how to learn to use his huge size to best effect he can on defence.

I don’t know if Philly have a specialist big man defensive coach but certainly someone with the same coaching skills as a Patrick Ewing or even how KAT has got KG on court and in the locker room to guide him would be of huge use to Philly’s trio of bigs. Maybe a person like Mount Mutombo or Ben Wallace could be asked to work with them.

[HitsterParticipant]

Okafor was in the top 3 of nearly all major mock drafts for all of last season and no doubt T-Wolves and Lakers both looked at him before they chose KAT and Russell. Even if Philly had taken Porz then I could not have seen Okafor sliding past the Knicks at 4.

There are questions about his defence but he has Noel and hopefully Embliid to play around him and he can concentrate on his scoring. The guy is supposed to be highly teachable, has spent a year under Coach K and even if he isn’t an elite defender. he looks as if he will have the know how to learn to use his huge size to best effect he can on defence.

I don’t know if Philly have a specialist big man defensive coach but certainly someone with the same coaching skills as a Patrick Ewing or even how KAT has got KG on court and in the locker room to guide him would be of huge use to Philly’s trio of bigs. Maybe a person like Mount Mutombo or Ben Wallace could be asked to work with them.

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