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  • #65127
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    Magic Jordan
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    Okay look, I hate to say this or ask the question.  This type of thing usually isn’t something I care about.  But does anybody else find it suspicious how much better of an athlete Parker is post ACL injury compared to pre injury??  I mean it’s not even close.  Tonight he legit hit his head on the rim while dunking….like literally he hit it on the rim watch the video.

    Now he has always struck me as a good mormon kid from a good family and it is probably just a coincidence but I can’t ever recall someone coming back from such a dreadful injury and being a much better athlete.  I dunno… I’m just saying…

      

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  • #1087166
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    he_gets_buckets
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     He was always a good athlete, go back and watch his highschool mixtapes, he’s always had hops he just doesn’t always show it off in game. Pat Connaughton had a 45 inch vert at the combine but hes not posterizing guys regularly, Jordan Farmar hada 43 inch vert and I’ve seen my grandma dunk more than him. 

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    • #1087251
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      markfitz14
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      Parker had such a quick first step to the basket it made my jaw drop. It was amazing for a guy his size. And very deceiving since he didn’t look muscle bound. He will be fully healed this year and be dominant.

       

      Also what are you saying @ Magic Jordan? He has a robot leg now? Or he is on steroids? I mean come one finish the thought at least and say what you mean. 

       

       

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  • #1087167
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    BeastMode716
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     it’s made up of current & former NBA GM’s & Scouts – Legit people – not talking heads

    And they rank Prospects in a 6 Tier system w/ Tier 1 being potential Super Star / Hall of Fame level; Tier 2 is perrenial All Star; Tier 3 is long term NBA very good starter; Tier 4 is low level starter / bench player; Tier 5 is strictly Bench / Roile player & Tier 6 is D – League or Euro

    In the last 5 NBA Drafts there have been Only 6 players voted consensus Tier 1 Prospects

    2012: Anthony Unibrow Davis

    2013: NONE

    2014: Joel Embiid, Andrew Wiggins & Jabari Parker

    2015 Karl Anthony Towns

    2016: Ben Simmons

    That’s Not my opinion. I am just relaying the results so please don’t get mad at me. The point is that Jabari Parker was thought to be a #1 option Super Star potential prospect Before the inury so no it doesn’t surprise me that he hit his head on the Rim

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1087169
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      Magic Jordan
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       Absolutely, Parker was and is a great prospect… but that was mostly due to his advanced skill set and 3 dimensional scoring.  He was considered average, sneaky at best of an athlete.

      The head on the rim was one example… but he is significantly faster, quicker and way more explosive vertically.  To me it’s crazy…at best extremely rare to see.

       

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      • #1087178
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        BeastMode716
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         Lakers fan b/c we must hold it down at all times b/c of what we’ve all been suffering through the last few years 

        And I remember exactly what you are talking about. I just think in our minds when when Draft sites start talking about guys who are "Freak" athletes we just assume the other prospects Not mentioned in that description must not be as athletic

        Parker came out in 2014 w/ Wiggins & Embiid who were both considered off the charts athletics specimens – since they played the same position I think Parker was constantly put side by side with Wiggins who  is a human Pogo stick. 

        I really think we all just started to deduce that PArker must not be a great athlete & I agree with Mr 19134. b/c Okafor did go through the same comparison with KAT. I just assumed Okafor was slow & plodding & then I watch him play & he he’s facing guys up, putting the ball on the floor, between his legs, slashing into the lane & Yamming on fools & I’m like WTF was that!

        Ingram got a little bit of this treatment too this year when compared to Simmons. Ingram can do everything on the court Simmons can do, maybe not quite as quick or jump as high but like Parker to Wiggins & Okafor to KAT the difference is almost negligble

         

         

         

         

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  • #1087170
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    Chewy
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     that it could be attributed to him getting his grown man strength + nba caliber training. I felt like the Bucks did him a disservice asking him to consistantly play the 4 as an undersized 20 year old. I would be interested in seeing his weight before injury and now to see if there is a difference.(body fat % too)

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  • #1087172
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    Jr. ROXAS
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    Honestly though, you didn’t notice his hops in his rookie season pre-ACL. Watching his first games as a rookie I was SUPER surprised with his hops and that he was dunking everything. He always has been very explosive.

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  • #1087174
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    Zarathustra
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     He’s only 21,not at his physical peak,great recovery and great work from this young man.

     

    He is a consistent 3 point shot from being a super-star IMO.

     

     

     

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  • #1087175
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    Mr. 19134
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     Yeah Jabari got Blake level hops and nobody notices.  Expect him to run away wit most dunks in the league this year.  Maybe its his body type not being ripped that throws people off.  Okafor gets the same treatment as people still think hes slow despite showing great speed and quickness as a rookie  he turned a few bigs into a pillar of salt last year

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  • #1087182
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    properbreaks
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    He hit his HEAD ON THE RIM? Wow….. Every time I watch him play his athleticism comes and goes with his weight. When he’s bigger he’s a lot slower and his jumping ability is way down, but when he is slim he looks like a totally different player and is a good athlete.
    I never would have called him elite and I never thought he could get his head at the rim, but then again I saw Kevin Durant get his head above the rim for a dunk a few years ago and I was shocked. It’s a new thing as far as guys coming off ACLs and actually being more athletic. I noticed a few players who came back seemingly more athletic, one being Derrick Rose, but then he got injured again so it was lost.

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  • #1087183
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    OhCanada-
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     Like MagicJordan said going into his draft Jabari was considered a sneaky athlete and physically was comoared to Anthony in those regards. Although he was also considered… I dont wanna say out of shale but… physically immature.  He worked on his body a ton when injured and is now an elite athlete. This guy is going to dominate soon. 

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  • #1087184
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    CU.LIONS
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    Jordan broke his leg and came back bigger stronger and faster. His was young and probably never fully trained like he did before his injury. Combined with legendary trainer Tim Grover. just look at Jordan’s body pre-1986 then after.

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  • #1087198
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     The rehab from the acl is intense. A lot of leg strengthening and lower body exercises Parker was probably never doing before the injury. It’s not at all inconceivable the someone that young could be a much better athlete post surgery than pre surgery. He has also cut his body fat percentage considerably. He was a little bit doughy when he played at Duke and that obviously kept him from really reaching his athletic potential. 

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  • #1087211
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    Jaymes Brown
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     Jabari’s body wasn’t designed for backwards and lateral movement. Underrated weakness that goes unseen because of vertical leaping ability.

     

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  • #1087263
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    JoeWolf1

    To be fair, the rim had broken away, and was probably about 6” lower than 10 foot. Parker is 6’9” in shoes, making it 33” to get his head to 9’6”. That’s a nice leap, but not crazy or anything.

    Bari is a big dude, he’s sporting a 8’11.5” standing reach, and a strong frame. He had 129 dunks in 76 games last year. That’s pretty freaking solid. I don’t remember if you watched his pre-draft tape, but I don’t think he’s vastly more athletic than this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDl9JF5hvU

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