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  • #62896
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    ChicagoCasey
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     It seems like Jabari Parker have turned the corner and starting to live up to the lofty expectations he had when he was drafted second by the Bucks. He’s been a beast as of late averaging 15 ppg and 7 rpg in Febuary, averaging 21 ppg 10 rbg 3 apg and having a pretty good field goal percentage (52%).

    He’s impressing me by the way he’s rebounding the basketball, more than the scoring. I say that because I thought he could be scoring like this last year if Jason Kidd played he consistent minutes throughout the game. People had concern with his rebounding numbers, but he’s beem productive in that given stat. He also impressing me  by the way he’s scoring, he’s not just going one on one to get his shot. He’s moving pretty well w/o the ball cutting to get points, taking players off the dribble, and hitting a mid range jumper. He’s been pretty explosive as well by the way he been dunking on people.

    I don’t want to proclaim that he’s better than Wiggins, but I stand by what I said during the college season that I would take Jabari in the long run over Wiggins. I just believe Jabari will end up being the more complete player than Wiggins. Both of these players will be outstanding players, I’m just happy for Jabari for coming back from the ACL injury and play like this. The Bucks most likely not making the playoffs and they need to surround Jabari, Giannis, and Khris Middleton w/ either a shooter or rim protector. The likes of a Jamal Murray or Jakob Poeltl will fit well with the young core of the Bucks.

     

     

     

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  • #1045007
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     I haven’t watched much Bucks ball but I’m glad Jabari is doing well. Nothing good about an injury that bad especially in your 1st season. Time will tell with Jabari vs Wiggins, (I’m puttin money on Wiggins) I wish the NBA would change the divisions. I would love to have the Bucks and Twolves in the same division along with Chicago, Indaiana and another team or 2. 

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  • #1044871
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     I haven’t watched much Bucks ball but I’m glad Jabari is doing well. Nothing good about an injury that bad especially in your 1st season. Time will tell with Jabari vs Wiggins, (I’m puttin money on Wiggins) I wish the NBA would change the divisions. I would love to have the Bucks and Twolves in the same division along with Chicago, Indaiana and another team or 2. 

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  • #1045015
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    Jabari has only played about the equivalent of about one full NBA season and the longer he is clear of his injury the stronger he will get.

    I know his production wasn’t great when he returned but it seems to be improving quicker than I thought it would as I was prepared to almost write off this season as a "holding season" for him where he performed about to the level he was pre-injury. Then after the summer and a full pre-season he hopefully had a breakout year in his 3rd season.

    Hopefully he keeps up this good form until the end of the season, can hit the ground running pre-season and then move onto the next level in 2016/17.

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  • #1044879
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    Jabari has only played about the equivalent of about one full NBA season and the longer he is clear of his injury the stronger he will get.

    I know his production wasn’t great when he returned but it seems to be improving quicker than I thought it would as I was prepared to almost write off this season as a "holding season" for him where he performed about to the level he was pre-injury. Then after the summer and a full pre-season he hopefully had a breakout year in his 3rd season.

    Hopefully he keeps up this good form until the end of the season, can hit the ground running pre-season and then move onto the next level in 2016/17.

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  • #1045019
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    Ever since MCW and Monroe moved out of the starting lineup, his numbers have gone way up. Also, the Bucks have been winning ever since Monroe was out of the lineup, and if they did lose, the games were really close, like losing to the Hornets by 2 points and the Celtics by 5. 

    With the talent Jabari has, it’s criminal to relegate him as a mere cutter to the basket. He’s 6’9 240 with handles of a guard and a shot that’s butter along with sneaky elite athleticsm. How in the world could you not run at least some isolation plays for this guy? With Monroe out of the starting lineup, he’s defintely getting more touches and more attempts and finally starting to show how good he really is.

     

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  • #1044883
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    Ever since MCW and Monroe moved out of the starting lineup, his numbers have gone way up. Also, the Bucks have been winning ever since Monroe was out of the lineup, and if they did lose, the games were really close, like losing to the Hornets by 2 points and the Celtics by 5. 

    With the talent Jabari has, it’s criminal to relegate him as a mere cutter to the basket. He’s 6’9 240 with handles of a guard and a shot that’s butter along with sneaky elite athleticsm. How in the world could you not run at least some isolation plays for this guy? With Monroe out of the starting lineup, he’s defintely getting more touches and more attempts and finally starting to show how good he really is.

     

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    • #1045029
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      Yeah, I been saying ever since last year that Jason Kidd has been underutilizing him and don’t be playing him consistent minutes. Last year Brandon Knight seem to play buddy ball with Middleton and Sanders, while Jabari Parker can’t get the ball. Also, Jason Kidd would not play him much when he be having 10 point first quarters. This team is better w/o the likes of Greg Monroe and MCW, which lead you to believe if the Bucks might trade them to find complementy players around Jabari Parker and Giannis, who is also playing much better w/o the 2. I believe they could get something out of Monroe, but it might be best if they have MCW as their 6th man due to the fact that he won’t demand much in a trade.

      The Bucks most likely will have a top 10 pick and I would love that the Bucks draft Jamal Murray, who I believe will be a better virsion of OJ Mayo. And they can probably flip Monroe for a protected first and a young player.

       

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    • #1044893
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      Yeah, I been saying ever since last year that Jason Kidd has been underutilizing him and don’t be playing him consistent minutes. Last year Brandon Knight seem to play buddy ball with Middleton and Sanders, while Jabari Parker can’t get the ball. Also, Jason Kidd would not play him much when he be having 10 point first quarters. This team is better w/o the likes of Greg Monroe and MCW, which lead you to believe if the Bucks might trade them to find complementy players around Jabari Parker and Giannis, who is also playing much better w/o the 2. I believe they could get something out of Monroe, but it might be best if they have MCW as their 6th man due to the fact that he won’t demand much in a trade.

      The Bucks most likely will have a top 10 pick and I would love that the Bucks draft Jamal Murray, who I believe will be a better virsion of OJ Mayo. And they can probably flip Monroe for a protected first and a young player.

       

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  • #1045033
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     I went to the bucks and Celtics game yesterday. Some things are clear Jabari Parker has an elite first step and has big time hops. Scouting report was so off on him, he had three powerful and monstrous dunks/ allys last night. Defensively I was pleasantly surprised with his lateral movement, better then I thought. 

    Giannis has a ton of potential. He is easily 6′ 11", problem is he airballed a mid range jumper and free throw. Traveled once or twice. Defensively he can be a perennial dpoy candidate for years to come and at best a third option offensively on a good team. 

    MCW is just absolutely terrible. Mediocre IQ, horrible mid range and 3 point shooter, no awareness. Never took advantage of mismatches on the floor such as when smaller players switched on Parker or Monroe. Shot selection was pretty atrocious, does not have leadership qualities you want your floor general to have. 

    This team needs a quality point guard, who can set up teammates and spread the floor. Conley would be perfect but unrealistic. They also need a defensive center: Noah or Ezeli should be there targets for the summer.

    Isaiah Thomas is so underrated. Celtics blew a 18 point lead, Bucks got score within 4. Thomas scores two lay ups and hit a 3 as soon as he gets subbed in. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1044897
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     I went to the bucks and Celtics game yesterday. Some things are clear Jabari Parker has an elite first step and has big time hops. Scouting report was so off on him, he had three powerful and monstrous dunks/ allys last night. Defensively I was pleasantly surprised with his lateral movement, better then I thought. 

    Giannis has a ton of potential. He is easily 6′ 11", problem is he airballed a mid range jumper and free throw. Traveled once or twice. Defensively he can be a perennial dpoy candidate for years to come and at best a third option offensively on a good team. 

    MCW is just absolutely terrible. Mediocre IQ, horrible mid range and 3 point shooter, no awareness. Never took advantage of mismatches on the floor such as when smaller players switched on Parker or Monroe. Shot selection was pretty atrocious, does not have leadership qualities you want your floor general to have. 

    This team needs a quality point guard, who can set up teammates and spread the floor. Conley would be perfect but unrealistic. They also need a defensive center: Noah or Ezeli should be there targets for the summer.

    Isaiah Thomas is so underrated. Celtics blew a 18 point lead, Bucks got score within 4. Thomas scores two lay ups and hit a 3 as soon as he gets subbed in. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1045037
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    Talking of Bucks needing a PG? Could Rondo be an option, he is one of the Assist Leaders again this year and playing under Kidd would surely interest him. Rondo is around 30 now so he’d have the younger guys to do the running and he could use his skill to create for them.

    Greg Monroe would have good trade value for a contender or a team wanting to contend to take given his age and that he has 3 years left on his deal. Could Portland be a decent fit for him I wonder?

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  • #1044901
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    Talking of Bucks needing a PG? Could Rondo be an option, he is one of the Assist Leaders again this year and playing under Kidd would surely interest him. Rondo is around 30 now so he’d have the younger guys to do the running and he could use his skill to create for them.

    Greg Monroe would have good trade value for a contender or a team wanting to contend to take given his age and that he has 3 years left on his deal. Could Portland be a decent fit for him I wonder?

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    • #1045047
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       I don’t believe rondo would be a good fit for this team. Yes he is a good defender and excellent passer but the Bucks biggest problem is there lack of floor space. Middleton is an above average shooter, Jabari should develop his range to 3 point territory sooner rather than later. Giannis has to keep working on his shot until he is a decent shooter (which he is still pretty far from). 

      I would love if Ennis could develop into that role. He had great leadership at Syracuse and a solid 3 point shooter. There best chance would be to either draft someone or sign someone at the pg and center spots. 

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    • #1044911
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       I don’t believe rondo would be a good fit for this team. Yes he is a good defender and excellent passer but the Bucks biggest problem is there lack of floor space. Middleton is an above average shooter, Jabari should develop his range to 3 point territory sooner rather than later. Giannis has to keep working on his shot until he is a decent shooter (which he is still pretty far from). 

      I would love if Ennis could develop into that role. He had great leadership at Syracuse and a solid 3 point shooter. There best chance would be to either draft someone or sign someone at the pg and center spots. 

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      • #1045117
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         Rondo is not a good defender

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      • #1044982
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         Rondo is not a good defender

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    • #1045065
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      With Giannis taking on more of the PG duties (in terms of creating) and Middleton’s development into being a playmaking SG, I’m not sure the need for a ball-dominant, poor shooting PG is really there anymore.  I think a guy like Dellavadova that can shoot, defend, and handle some, but not all of the playmaking might be a better fit at this point.

      Regarding Monroe’s contract, he really only has one year left on his deal considering he can opt out next season.

      It sounds like it’ll be another interesting offseason for the Bucks.  They’ve really improved since moving MCW and Monroe to the bench, but both are still playing starter’s minutes.  It’s just the way that Kidd is staggering the minutes now has allowed the 2nd unit actually be competitive, whereas they’ve been horrific the majority of the season.

       

        

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    • #1044929
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      With Giannis taking on more of the PG duties (in terms of creating) and Middleton’s development into being a playmaking SG, I’m not sure the need for a ball-dominant, poor shooting PG is really there anymore.  I think a guy like Dellavadova that can shoot, defend, and handle some, but not all of the playmaking might be a better fit at this point.

      Regarding Monroe’s contract, he really only has one year left on his deal considering he can opt out next season.

      It sounds like it’ll be another interesting offseason for the Bucks.  They’ve really improved since moving MCW and Monroe to the bench, but both are still playing starter’s minutes.  It’s just the way that Kidd is staggering the minutes now has allowed the 2nd unit actually be competitive, whereas they’ve been horrific the majority of the season.

       

        

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      • #1045018
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        My sources inside the Delly camp tell me that there was strong interest from the Bucks to make a trade just before the deadline. Rumor has it the Bucks were offering their first round pick.  

        But Delly put the squash on that using his no-trade clause because he knew he’s going to get paid regardless and has a genuine chance at a championship this season…which would drive his value even higher. 

        It would seem that the MCW experiment is nearly over. Don’t be surprised if he does eventually sign with the Bucks however, as it is a perfect fit. 

         

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      • #1045153
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        My sources inside the Delly camp tell me that there was strong interest from the Bucks to make a trade just before the deadline. Rumor has it the Bucks were offering their first round pick.  

        But Delly put the squash on that using his no-trade clause because he knew he’s going to get paid regardless and has a genuine chance at a championship this season…which would drive his value even higher. 

        It would seem that the MCW experiment is nearly over. Don’t be surprised if he does eventually sign with the Bucks however, as it is a perfect fit. 

         

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  • #1045061
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     & it was great to see…… This kid is a real player…… The Greek & Parker are two legit studs….. I’d luv to see the Bucks get a good PG in the 2016 NBA Draft…..

     I really hope Embiid comes back strong next year as well….. The top of that 2014 Draft had some special talents w/ Wiggins, Parker & Embiid……

     Randle is also playing great now….. Randle, just like Parker needed some time to get back into game form…… 

    Think of 5 years ago & who the Top NBA players were….. & think ahead 5 years from now & these young kids Drafted in 2013, 2014 & 2015 – players like Gobert, Noel, The Greek, Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, D’ Russell, Okafor, Porzingus & Towns…. – will be entering the Big stage Leading teams (maybe different teams then who they play for now in some cases) in the NBA Playoffs….. I Luv this game!

     

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  • #1044925
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     & it was great to see…… This kid is a real player…… The Greek & Parker are two legit studs….. I’d luv to see the Bucks get a good PG in the 2016 NBA Draft…..

     I really hope Embiid comes back strong next year as well….. The top of that 2014 Draft had some special talents w/ Wiggins, Parker & Embiid……

     Randle is also playing great now….. Randle, just like Parker needed some time to get back into game form…… 

    Think of 5 years ago & who the Top NBA players were….. & think ahead 5 years from now & these young kids Drafted in 2013, 2014 & 2015 – players like Gobert, Noel, The Greek, Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, D’ Russell, Okafor, Porzingus & Towns…. – will be entering the Big stage Leading teams (maybe different teams then who they play for now in some cases) in the NBA Playoffs….. I Luv this game!

     

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  • #1045069
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     Parkers next goal should be to develop a consistent 3-point shot. His team could really use some spacing. If he shows up to training camp with that in his arsenal he could be an all-star sooner than later.

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  • #1044933
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     Parkers next goal should be to develop a consistent 3-point shot. His team could really use some spacing. If he shows up to training camp with that in his arsenal he could be an all-star sooner than later.

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  • #1045081
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    Jamal Murray could/would be an excellent fit for the Bucks and they have good shot of landing him in the draft 

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    Jamal Murray could/would be an excellent fit for the Bucks and they have good shot of landing him in the draft 

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  • #1045012
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    I’ve been screaming this since Day 1 of the season.  Get MCW and Monroe out the lineup and things will get better, not only for Jabari, but everyone else too.   Monroe should’ve been traded to NO or the Wizards.  Those are the only places I can see his game translating as a starter.  Outside of that, he’s a glorified 6 man…  He does nothing for you defensively and he’s not that good offensively.  He’s just in the way…

     

     

      

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    • #1045567
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      I agree for the most part, but he does bring a lot of value in terms of rebounding and his offensive skill.  He’s pretty easily the Bucks’ best offensive player (for now, obviously Jabari and Giannis have a lot of potential).

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      I agree for the most part, but he does bring a lot of value in terms of rebounding and his offensive skill.  He’s pretty easily the Bucks’ best offensive player (for now, obviously Jabari and Giannis have a lot of potential).

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    I’ve been screaming this since Day 1 of the season.  Get MCW and Monroe out the lineup and things will get better, not only for Jabari, but everyone else too.   Monroe should’ve been traded to NO or the Wizards.  Those are the only places I can see his game translating as a starter.  Outside of that, he’s a glorified 6 man…  He does nothing for you defensively and he’s not that good offensively.  He’s just in the way…

     

     

      

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  • #1045046
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     I need Ennis to step up man. He needs PT badly

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    • #1045569
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      I love the guy, but he simply doesn’t appear to be very good.  His jumpshot isn’t very good unless he’s left completely unguarded, and while he’s a skilled passer, his athletic limitations make it very difficult for him to create as well as defend.  There’s a reason that the Bucks have become desperate for someone to fill in at PG and still haven’t given him a chance.

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    • #1045434
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      I love the guy, but he simply doesn’t appear to be very good.  His jumpshot isn’t very good unless he’s left completely unguarded, and while he’s a skilled passer, his athletic limitations make it very difficult for him to create as well as defend.  There’s a reason that the Bucks have become desperate for someone to fill in at PG and still haven’t given him a chance.

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  • #1045181
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     I need Ennis to step up man. He needs PT badly

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  • #1045249
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     Pretty dumb if you ask me. Rondo is hitting a 3 a game and sbooting mid 30’s from 3. He also scores better consistently, dishes it better,gets more steals than Delly. Finds shooters better and is just a way better player. Kidding me right? Lol

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  • #1045114
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     Pretty dumb if you ask me. Rondo is hitting a 3 a game and sbooting mid 30’s from 3. He also scores better consistently, dishes it better,gets more steals than Delly. Finds shooters better and is just a way better player. Kidding me right? Lol

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    • #1045275
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       Rondo doesn’t play defense. He seems to even have a deal with Karl, that Karl won’t insist he play defense, and in return, Rondo defends Karl and tells Divac not to fire him.

       

       

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    • #1045140
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       Rondo doesn’t play defense. He seems to even have a deal with Karl, that Karl won’t insist he play defense, and in return, Rondo defends Karl and tells Divac not to fire him.

       

       

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  • #1045285
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     But Delly over Rondo is a firing offense. Be serious. Parker would score a ton with Rondo. Team would actually play at a J Kidd pace. You haters and followers man SMH lol.

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  • #1045150
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     But Delly over Rondo is a firing offense. Be serious. Parker would score a ton with Rondo. Team would actually play at a J Kidd pace. You haters and followers man SMH lol.

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    • #1045571
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      Having watched a ton of the Bucks, I just don’t think Rondo is a good fit for the way the team is developing.  Middleton, Giannis, and Jabari appear to be the guys that they want creating for teammates with more of an off-ball PG.  Rondo is the opposite of that and would do nothing to fix floor spacing issues.

      Having said that, based on Kidd’s infatuation with MCW and now Rubio, it sounds like he may still personally value a ball-dominant PG.  I think we’ll have a better idea of what they’re looking for in the offseason; I suspect they’ll try pretty hard to acquire a PG via trade or free agency.

       

       

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      Having watched a ton of the Bucks, I just don’t think Rondo is a good fit for the way the team is developing.  Middleton, Giannis, and Jabari appear to be the guys that they want creating for teammates with more of an off-ball PG.  Rondo is the opposite of that and would do nothing to fix floor spacing issues.

      Having said that, based on Kidd’s infatuation with MCW and now Rubio, it sounds like he may still personally value a ball-dominant PG.  I think we’ll have a better idea of what they’re looking for in the offseason; I suspect they’ll try pretty hard to acquire a PG via trade or free agency.

       

       

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