[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

Being a Carolina fan obviously, I watched in amazement as J.P Tokoto took an absolute free fall on draft night and ended up being picked at 58 by the Sixers. He has been cut by the Sixers and has stated that he will refuse to go overseas or to the D-League. He had said he was hoping to make it into the late first round after working on his jumper. That obviously didn’t happen. There was something off with Tokoto during his time at Carolina. His skill level barely improved in 3 years there. Carolina returns everyone except him next year and is one of the favorites to cut down the nets. Tokoto leaving was addition by subtraction for the Heels. I have rarely seen a guy with that many physical gifts with such a low basketball IQ and a completely broken jump shot. Tokoto obviously thinks he is much better than he really is. I don’t know how much Roy Williams is to blame for the lack of skill development by J.P. Can Tokoto ever make it in the league?

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Any source on him being cut?  I know he refused to go to the d-league or overseas.  I thought the 76ers agreed to bring him into camp.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Any source on him being cut?  I know he refused to go to the d-league or overseas.  I thought the 76ers agreed to bring him into camp.  

[GBeeParticipant]

Has he changed his tune since this?
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/31/report-76ers-second-rounder-j-p-tokoto-wont-sign-with-philadelphia/
Here it says he’s not signing with the 6ers and will opt to play in the D-League or overseas.
What I get from that is that he’s latching onto the only leverage that he has: becoming a FA and getting to choose the team he plays for. The problem with that is that he assumes that he’s wanted and that he’s an NBA player, both of which I would not agree with. IMO, he should try to snatch up a contract in China before they get taken.

[GBeeParticipant]

Has he changed his tune since this?
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/31/report-76ers-second-rounder-j-p-tokoto-wont-sign-with-philadelphia/
Here it says he’s not signing with the 6ers and will opt to play in the D-League or overseas.
What I get from that is that he’s latching onto the only leverage that he has: becoming a FA and getting to choose the team he plays for. The problem with that is that he assumes that he’s wanted and that he’s an NBA player, both of which I would not agree with. IMO, he should try to snatch up a contract in China before they get taken.

[nill650Participant]

Tokoto should be able to make a roster after a yr overseas…with his skillset, and some prof experience.

His combination or lack there of of skills is unorthodoxed and the skills don’t mesh well together .

 pros: defense intensity and athleticism/transition points and to a lesser appreciated degree he has above average passing ability for a wing…court vision needs some work, but its also above avg…too bad it does’nt matter because although he can create his own shot with his athleticism,he cannot shoot.

 cons: average ballhandling ability, below average jumper…not a two way player in the nba.

 

 

[nill650Participant]

Tokoto should be able to make a roster after a yr overseas…with his skillset, and some prof experience.

His combination or lack there of of skills is unorthodoxed and the skills don’t mesh well together .

 pros: defense intensity and athleticism/transition points and to a lesser appreciated degree he has above average passing ability for a wing…court vision needs some work, but its also above avg…too bad it does’nt matter because although he can create his own shot with his athleticism,he cannot shoot.

 cons: average ballhandling ability, below average jumper…not a two way player in the nba.

 

 

[providencefriars1Participant]

Report: McRae, Tokoto to attend Sixers training camp

When the Philadelphia 76ers open training camp in late September, a late second round selection from the 2014 and 2015 NBA drafts will be part of the squad.
about 9 days ago | ESPN.com | ESPN.com

He averaged 4.3 APG last year, only .2 behind Marcus Paige. I thought when I watched him he had good court vision and playmaking skills for a wing, but obviously the jumper is a concern. He fits the style of wings the 76ers have been drafting recently and if he makes the team I expect him to play some PG like Jakarr Sampson did last year. Tokoto is leagues ahead of Sampson as a play maker at least in college.

[providencefriars1Participant]

Report: McRae, Tokoto to attend Sixers training camp

When the Philadelphia 76ers open training camp in late September, a late second round selection from the 2014 and 2015 NBA drafts will be part of the squad.
about 9 days ago | ESPN.com | ESPN.com

He averaged 4.3 APG last year, only .2 behind Marcus Paige. I thought when I watched him he had good court vision and playmaking skills for a wing, but obviously the jumper is a concern. He fits the style of wings the 76ers have been drafting recently and if he makes the team I expect him to play some PG like Jakarr Sampson did last year. Tokoto is leagues ahead of Sampson as a play maker at least in college.

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 I completely agree with the addition by subtraction statement for UNC. He wasn’t their best defender, Paige was. He shouldn’t have been but Tokoto was just one of those guys that criminally underachieved. Maybe that’s on Roy, I’m not close enough to the program but I think him being gone will help that team. 

If Paige is healthy and closer to the Soph version of himself, Jackson makes the Freshmen to Sophomore jump that a lot of guys make and Meeks/Johnson find a way to stay consistent, no reason UNC can’t get to a Final Four. 

Would love to see Hicks play less. I can’t stand watching him play for more than about 3 minutes at a time. He makes a lot happen when he’s out there, good and bad. It’s like 55-45 bad to good IMO. 

No I definitely think Tokoto gone helps UNC though, people see a big athletic high flying kid and assume he’s their best defender, thats typecasting all the way because while he should have been, he wasn’t. Wish they could’ve gotten Ingram. Damn

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 I completely agree with the addition by subtraction statement for UNC. He wasn’t their best defender, Paige was. He shouldn’t have been but Tokoto was just one of those guys that criminally underachieved. Maybe that’s on Roy, I’m not close enough to the program but I think him being gone will help that team. 

If Paige is healthy and closer to the Soph version of himself, Jackson makes the Freshmen to Sophomore jump that a lot of guys make and Meeks/Johnson find a way to stay consistent, no reason UNC can’t get to a Final Four. 

Would love to see Hicks play less. I can’t stand watching him play for more than about 3 minutes at a time. He makes a lot happen when he’s out there, good and bad. It’s like 55-45 bad to good IMO. 

No I definitely think Tokoto gone helps UNC though, people see a big athletic high flying kid and assume he’s their best defender, thats typecasting all the way because while he should have been, he wasn’t. Wish they could’ve gotten Ingram. Damn

 

 

 

[ncballer]

Do not get me started on JP.  Freak athlete, good passer and that’s about it.  

His defense is EXTREMELY overrated, just ask the following people who all abused him this past season:

Sam Dekker, Aaron Harrison, Jerian Grant, Justin Anderson, Wesley Saunders (Harvard), Michael Quallis and I am sure I am missing some.  

These guys all did essentially what they wanted to him at some point in the season last season.  What is the reason for this?  It isn’t his lack of physical attributes, it’s his MOTOR, he does not have one.  He takes plays off and does not go 100% of the time. 

He is also not a smart basketball player.  Shooting is not his strength and he kept trying to prove to scouts that it was by shooting the dumb fall away 13 foot jump shots.  Those shots would always interrupt the flow of the offense and not put our rebounders in a position to get the unexpected shots.  Not to mention, dude you are the best athlete on the floor 99 out of 100 games and can get to the rim whenever you want, why not do it?  

His claim to working on his shot I believe, he shot free throws a lot better his junior season.  But what he does not realize is that his offensive production would have increased had he just played to his strengths, and took the occasional open 3 and get to the rim whenever the opportunity presented itself.  

I doubt he makes the team.  He is bound for a career in europe unless he choses to play to his strengths and give 100% of his effort.  I almost threw up watching his lacksidasical (sp?) indifferent attitude in the Wisonsin game watching his HS buddy Sam Dekker do whatever the hell he wanted to him.  

He is one of the most underachieving players to wear the UNC uniform.  I said it.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ncballer]

Do not get me started on JP.  Freak athlete, good passer and that’s about it.  

His defense is EXTREMELY overrated, just ask the following people who all abused him this past season:

Sam Dekker, Aaron Harrison, Jerian Grant, Justin Anderson, Wesley Saunders (Harvard), Michael Quallis and I am sure I am missing some.  

These guys all did essentially what they wanted to him at some point in the season last season.  What is the reason for this?  It isn’t his lack of physical attributes, it’s his MOTOR, he does not have one.  He takes plays off and does not go 100% of the time. 

He is also not a smart basketball player.  Shooting is not his strength and he kept trying to prove to scouts that it was by shooting the dumb fall away 13 foot jump shots.  Those shots would always interrupt the flow of the offense and not put our rebounders in a position to get the unexpected shots.  Not to mention, dude you are the best athlete on the floor 99 out of 100 games and can get to the rim whenever you want, why not do it?  

His claim to working on his shot I believe, he shot free throws a lot better his junior season.  But what he does not realize is that his offensive production would have increased had he just played to his strengths, and took the occasional open 3 and get to the rim whenever the opportunity presented itself.  

I doubt he makes the team.  He is bound for a career in europe unless he choses to play to his strengths and give 100% of his effort.  I almost threw up watching his lacksidasical (sp?) indifferent attitude in the Wisonsin game watching his HS buddy Sam Dekker do whatever the hell he wanted to him.  

He is one of the most underachieving players to wear the UNC uniform.  I said it.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

i wouldnt consider it a free fall that he fell to 58… someone like montrezl harrell took a free fall.. not tokoto.. he was projected to go in the late 40’s-undrafted anyway… not a big shock there

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

i wouldnt consider it a free fall that he fell to 58… someone like montrezl harrell took a free fall.. not tokoto.. he was projected to go in the late 40’s-undrafted anyway… not a big shock there

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