[StF616Participant]

 Is yao ming a hall of famer?
Now that he has retired do yall think he will be a hall of famer?
If you just look at the NBA career stats, he is not a First Ballot Hall of Famer, However, 
due to what he did for the game of basketball, his impact to the game, being the 1st international draft pick, being 7’6, chinese, truely doing alot not only for basketball but for others too. Great Person. He made basketball really famous. The first Asian/Chinese Star in the NBA one of the most known players in the world. Is he a HOF?

[HitsterParticipant]

As a player he was getting close to being a serious HOF contender before his injury issues but with his cultural status and impact on the game especially making the NBA huge in China then I think that he will surely be voted in.

A lot could depend who else retires this year as Shaq is a lock in for when he is eligible and Yao is now I assume in the same eligibility year as Shaq.

[HitsterParticipant]

As a player he was getting close to being a serious HOF contender before his injury issues but with his cultural status and impact on the game especially making the NBA huge in China then I think that he will surely be voted in.

A lot could depend who else retires this year as Shaq is a lock in for when he is eligible and Yao is now I assume in the same eligibility year as Shaq.

[boshjonesfordParticipant]

nope…not unless they change it to a voting system

[boshjonesfordParticipant]

nope…not unless they change it to a voting system

[JoeWolf1]

 I don’t think so, but I honestly think he could have been up there with the top centers to ever play the game if he wasn’t hit so hard by injuries over the years.

[JoeWolf1]

 I don’t think so, but I honestly think he could have been up there with the top centers to ever play the game if he wasn’t hit so hard by injuries over the years.

[HobbyOGParticipant]

If China has a vote like they did in the all-star game..Yes..

[HobbyOGParticipant]

If China has a vote like they did in the all-star game..Yes..

[JoeWolf1]

 I just checked out Yao’s resume and I didn’t realize exactly how badly injuries cut his total production.  He doesn’t even have 10,000 points or 5,000 rebounds despite career averages of 19 and 9.

After seeing his total stats, I think his chances are 0 despite being an All-NBA player 5 years (2nd twice 3rd three times).  He’s not even in the top 250 in career points and rebounds.

[JoeWolf1]

 I just checked out Yao’s resume and I didn’t realize exactly how badly injuries cut his total production.  He doesn’t even have 10,000 points or 5,000 rebounds despite career averages of 19 and 9.

After seeing his total stats, I think his chances are 0 despite being an All-NBA player 5 years (2nd twice 3rd three times).  He’s not even in the top 250 in career points and rebounds.

[esperanzafleet69Participant]

basketball reference gives him a 30.7% chance at the HOF.. so probably not..

[esperanzafleet69Participant]

basketball reference gives him a 30.7% chance at the HOF.. so probably not..

[jjonzParticipant]

When Rockets drafted him China made it mandatory that he play for them. All of that Constant pounding on a 7’6 frame proved to be the downfall for Yao. I knew when he got hurt the first time & China made him play that he would not be the same. If healthy the Rockets ownership would have done everything to ensure a Championship & HOF plaque for Yao. But now he’e not even close to HOF.

[jjonzParticipant]

When Rockets drafted him China made it mandatory that he play for them. All of that Constant pounding on a 7’6 frame proved to be the downfall for Yao. I knew when he got hurt the first time & China made him play that he would not be the same. If healthy the Rockets ownership would have done everything to ensure a Championship & HOF plaque for Yao. But now he’e not even close to HOF.

[Jlv2011]

is significant.  His size was simply commanding.  Moreover, his prowess to influence the masses in Asia cannot be ignored.  If he was accepted into the HoF, I wouldn’t mind it. 

[Jlv2011]

is significant.  His size was simply commanding.  Moreover, his prowess to influence the masses in Asia cannot be ignored.  If he was accepted into the HoF, I wouldn’t mind it. 

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 That was certainly a shame when the Chinese made him play hurt. HOF was a lock if he could have gotten in a few more good years because he was one of the top five big men in the league (counting centers and power forwards) probably every year he played except for his rookie year and last year. (Interestingly, even last year, on a "per 36 minute basis" it was the same old Yao: 20 pts, 11 rebs, 3 blks (better than his normal 2!)).

You just got the complete package from him with no weaknesses to his game. I remember when he first came into the league. Shaq was still dominate and Yao was the first guy who seemed like he could guard Shaq one on one and actually contain him. No one guarded Shaq one on one before Yao as far as I recall. So Yao could post you up, dunk on you, step out and hit jumpers, rebound, defend one on one and help team defense. You look at some of his career stats and he is up there in both the defense ratings and offense ratings.

So I think he has a shot. Even if he doesn’t get in as a real HOF’er, they will certainly do some exhibits about him because he had a big impact on the game.  

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 That was certainly a shame when the Chinese made him play hurt. HOF was a lock if he could have gotten in a few more good years because he was one of the top five big men in the league (counting centers and power forwards) probably every year he played except for his rookie year and last year. (Interestingly, even last year, on a "per 36 minute basis" it was the same old Yao: 20 pts, 11 rebs, 3 blks (better than his normal 2!)).

You just got the complete package from him with no weaknesses to his game. I remember when he first came into the league. Shaq was still dominate and Yao was the first guy who seemed like he could guard Shaq one on one and actually contain him. No one guarded Shaq one on one before Yao as far as I recall. So Yao could post you up, dunk on you, step out and hit jumpers, rebound, defend one on one and help team defense. You look at some of his career stats and he is up there in both the defense ratings and offense ratings.

So I think he has a shot. Even if he doesn’t get in as a real HOF’er, they will certainly do some exhibits about him because he had a big impact on the game.  

[dodgerParticipant]

I get your point about Yao changing Chinese basketball, but it isn’t enough. I think if he works in basketball in some capacity then he could make the hall of fame as an ambassador in 20 years.

[dodgerParticipant]

I get your point about Yao changing Chinese basketball, but it isn’t enough. I think if he works in basketball in some capacity then he could make the hall of fame as an ambassador in 20 years.

[JordanC20Participant]

not at all…he did nothing in the NBA.

Kind of the same situation as Sam Bowie good player but was injured more than anything.

[JordanC20Participant]

not at all…he did nothing in the NBA.

Kind of the same situation as Sam Bowie good player but was injured more than anything.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

He did a lot for the NBA.  He helped increase the NBA’s popularity in China, where the NBA is now very popular.  He was dominant when healthy, and was a game changing center.  He may not have played long, but when he did, he did at a HOF level.  I am not sure if he is a HOFer, but he was a superstar and will be remembered in NBA lore for a long time, even if he isn’t a HOFer.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

He did a lot for the NBA.  He helped increase the NBA’s popularity in China, where the NBA is now very popular.  He was dominant when healthy, and was a game changing center.  He may not have played long, but when he did, he did at a HOF level.  I am not sure if he is a HOFer, but he was a superstar and will be remembered in NBA lore for a long time, even if he isn’t a HOFer.

[aamir543Participant]

This is just llike Sabonis, except Sabonis was even better. The USSR made him play waaaay too much when he was 22-26. When he came over here, he was still productive but just a shell of his former self.

The Yao case if different, but similar in the fact that his country forced him to play fatigued and hurt.

About the Hall Of Fame, I don’t think so. But I don’t think he is done. Maybe he rests up for some time and then comes back. If you ask me, he still has the ability. In the five games he played this season, he averaged 10 and 5 playing 18 minutes. Although the sample size is very small, that’s 18 and 10 for someone who hadn’t played in 18 months. He still has it, but unfortunatly his body won’t let him

I will leave the door open for him possibly getting in on his later tries(last 3 or 4) but I don’t think so.

Nonetheless, we will never forget Yao Ming.

[aamir543Participant]

This is just llike Sabonis, except Sabonis was even better. The USSR made him play waaaay too much when he was 22-26. When he came over here, he was still productive but just a shell of his former self.

The Yao case if different, but similar in the fact that his country forced him to play fatigued and hurt.

About the Hall Of Fame, I don’t think so. But I don’t think he is done. Maybe he rests up for some time and then comes back. If you ask me, he still has the ability. In the five games he played this season, he averaged 10 and 5 playing 18 minutes. Although the sample size is very small, that’s 18 and 10 for someone who hadn’t played in 18 months. He still has it, but unfortunatly his body won’t let him

I will leave the door open for him possibly getting in on his later tries(last 3 or 4) but I don’t think so.

Nonetheless, we will never forget Yao Ming.

[ChrispyParticipant]

C’mon, man. Apples and oranges. Bowie never had half the career Yao did, albeit he was famously stung by the injury bug as well. Yao will make it to the HOF based on his cross-cultural appeal and signifigance to the international appeal of basketball. China has become a hot bed of hoops, particularly in the youth and recreation ranks BECAUSE of Yao. We will only see an increase in quantity and quality of internation players from China in the next generation, something not possible before Yao. As a player = NO. As a player/ambassador/inspiration? = YES

[ChrispyParticipant]

C’mon, man. Apples and oranges. Bowie never had half the career Yao did, albeit he was famously stung by the injury bug as well. Yao will make it to the HOF based on his cross-cultural appeal and signifigance to the international appeal of basketball. China has become a hot bed of hoops, particularly in the youth and recreation ranks BECAUSE of Yao. We will only see an increase in quantity and quality of internation players from China in the next generation, something not possible before Yao. As a player = NO. As a player/ambassador/inspiration? = YES

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

If Yao makes it in Alonzo Mourning better make it in before.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

If Yao makes it in Alonzo Mourning better make it in before.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

No, Yao should not be in the Hall of fame, he did not have a Hall of Fame career. If we’re going to consider his injury for reason to put him in and what he could have been, then you might as well put Ralph Sampson in as well, another guy who started strong but was shattered by injuries later on.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

No, Yao should not be in the Hall of fame, he did not have a Hall of Fame career. If we’re going to consider his injury for reason to put him in and what he could have been, then you might as well put Ralph Sampson in as well, another guy who started strong but was shattered by injuries later on.

[StF616Participant]

 But he made basketball famous in china. Gave the NBA like 300 million more fans. Helped pave international basketball. Its not just the stats but also what he did to help basketball internationally

[StF616Participant]

 But he made basketball famous in china. Gave the NBA like 300 million more fans. Helped pave international basketball. Its not just the stats but also what he did to help basketball internationally

[HitsterParticipant]

Players whose careers were ended much earlier than Yao’s made the HOF and I based my thoughts on Yao getting in on Sabonis being elected this year when his NBA career was only 12ppg and 7rpg. But we all know that the younger Sabonis would have had NBA figures perhaps as good as or even better than Yao’s if he had come to the NBA say 8 years earlier.

[HitsterParticipant]

Players whose careers were ended much earlier than Yao’s made the HOF and I based my thoughts on Yao getting in on Sabonis being elected this year when his NBA career was only 12ppg and 7rpg. But we all know that the younger Sabonis would have had NBA figures perhaps as good as or even better than Yao’s if he had come to the NBA say 8 years earlier.

[aamir543Participant]

I could confidently say that without Yao, China would have no clue about Basketball.

[aamir543Participant]

I could confidently say that without Yao, China would have no clue about Basketball.

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