[aamir543Participant]

For many years, people have wondered whether the lottery is fixed, and to be honest, I really don’t care, but if it is, this is probably what happens when Stern is fixing the order-

This is what Stern probably said when he peeks into the room every year:

1985- (Talking to the guy who threw the envelopes in the sphere)

Stern- OK, so trow the New York envelope 4th, and….here give me the envelope, Ill bend the corner just to make sure.

Guy who throws the envelopes in- I’ll even throw it so it hits the rod inside.

Stern-Good idea

2003- Send that spoiled brat back to his boring hometown. Make him spend 7 more years in that hopeless dump.

2006- (Bryan Colangelo calls David Stern)

Colangelo- Hey, that Italian kid seems good, I LOVE foreign guys. Please give him to me! Please! Please!

Stern- Dude relax, the way I have it right now, you will end up with the 3rd, so you’ll get him.

Colangelo-NO!!!!! I want a garuentee! I want the number 1. Please!

Stern-Ok Ok, it wont change much, but you have to promise me one thing.

Colangelo- Anything!!!!!!

Stern- That kid you got, Bosh, hes waaaaaaaaaaaaaay overated, he gets all the touches and his number are inflated, I want him out in four years, tops.

Colangelo- Already working on it, he’ll the unhappiest overated superstar you’ll ever know!

Stern- Good &$#%#&@!.

2009 (Donald and David taking on the phone)

Stern- So Donald, how you doing you, taking your meds?

Donald- Whaaaaaaat!! Am I being chased by the feds!

Stern- Easy Donald, easy.

Donald-David, I have ruined many things over my time-

Stern- -Tell me about it-

Donald- What you say?

Stern- Nothing, continue.

Donald- Well, you know I want to make a difference, I want people to come into the arena without thinking of themselves as hostages-

Stern- -Let me guess, you want Griffin

Donald- Yes.

Stern- Ugggh! You’re the 18th one, even Lebron tried to get me to send him to Miami, in case they miss the playoffs.

Donald- Wait, why would Lebron want Griffin in Miami?

Stern- You’ll find out soon enough, forget about that, umm well its between you and the soon to be new guy.(Kahn) And that guy is even creepier than you, so yeah, you got it.

Donald- Thanks David, you won’t regret it, I promise!

Stern- (Scough, then mutters,) I doubt it.

Try to come up with your own, and be creative.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

DRose was an important Lotto "fix" don’t you think? After all they only had a 1.7% chance.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

DRose was an important Lotto "fix" don’t you think? After all they only had a 1.7% chance.

[aamir543Participant]

2008

(Stern and MJ are talking on the phone)

Stern- Hey Mj, how ya doin!

MJ- Good, good,

Stern- Your Bulls didn’t make the playoffs this season! What happened!

MJ- The problem is you dont give any good picks! In fact, if you don’t give us Rose, I’m gonna tell everyone the truth about what happened in 1993.

Stern-NO!!!!!NO!!!!! Please no!!!!!! How long are you going to hold this against me!!!!!!!!!

MJ- Just give it to us and it’s all good.

Stern- (He mutters swear words as puts the Bulls logo in the envelope.)

 

 

 

[aamir543Participant]

2008

(Stern and MJ are talking on the phone)

Stern- Hey Mj, how ya doin!

MJ- Good, good,

Stern- Your Bulls didn’t make the playoffs this season! What happened!

MJ- The problem is you dont give any good picks! In fact, if you don’t give us Rose, I’m gonna tell everyone the truth about what happened in 1993.

Stern-NO!!!!!NO!!!!! Please no!!!!!! How long are you going to hold this against me!!!!!!!!!

MJ- Just give it to us and it’s all good.

Stern- (He mutters swear words as puts the Bulls logo in the envelope.)

 

 

 

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 Aamir543 goood one but i think if MJ were to do something like that dont you think it would be with the Bobcats

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 Aamir543 goood one but i think if MJ were to do something like that dont you think it would be with the Bobcats

[MCRIZZParticipant]

 2006 

Colangelo calls stern 

C – Hi David, lets talk some business

S – Alright lets here what you got 

C – Toronto is your only remaining Canadian team, Canada basketball is on the rise and when the raptors become a contender you can push the global game card and international boundaries can possibly be broken 

S- Go on…

C – I know youve always wanted to make this a global game, taking teams to europe for exhibition etc.. The best way to do this is to give us the #1 so we can make our team a legitimate contender 

S- you got it Bryan this is a great idea 

(makes raptors #1 pick) 

minutes later …(stern talking to himself) 

S – What the hell was I thinking, I dont truly want to expand this game I only make it look like that to get better ratings…..I better do something drastic to stop this….

(stern takes away option of drafting high school kids) 

next day… Colangelo calls back 

C- whats this all about david we were going to take kevin durant first overall, now we have to settle for the "shit" thats left 

S – I thought you said you wanted to be international so I ensured youd get Bargnani with the first pick 

C- hangs up phone …..

[MCRIZZParticipant]

 2006 

Colangelo calls stern 

C – Hi David, lets talk some business

S – Alright lets here what you got 

C – Toronto is your only remaining Canadian team, Canada basketball is on the rise and when the raptors become a contender you can push the global game card and international boundaries can possibly be broken 

S- Go on…

C – I know youve always wanted to make this a global game, taking teams to europe for exhibition etc.. The best way to do this is to give us the #1 so we can make our team a legitimate contender 

S- you got it Bryan this is a great idea 

(makes raptors #1 pick) 

minutes later …(stern talking to himself) 

S – What the hell was I thinking, I dont truly want to expand this game I only make it look like that to get better ratings…..I better do something drastic to stop this….

(stern takes away option of drafting high school kids) 

next day… Colangelo calls back 

C- whats this all about david we were going to take kevin durant first overall, now we have to settle for the "shit" thats left 

S – I thought you said you wanted to be international so I ensured youd get Bargnani with the first pick 

C- hangs up phone …..

[MCRIZZParticipant]

couple days later…

Colangelo alone in office … You know what, he wants international Ill give it to him…Goes out and gets bargnani, ukic, calderon, garbajosa, valanciounas, rasho, kleiza,  ajinca, barbosa, belinelli, turk, brezec, delfino, uros slokar…  head coach triano

 

[MCRIZZParticipant]

couple days later…

Colangelo alone in office … You know what, he wants international Ill give it to him…Goes out and gets bargnani, ukic, calderon, garbajosa, valanciounas, rasho, kleiza,  ajinca, barbosa, belinelli, turk, brezec, delfino, uros slokar…  head coach triano

 

[Tobe BryantParticipant]

The year is 1996….

Jerry West enters the room…

D.Stern: Hey Symbol! (Shoutout to my boi Symbol…lol)

West: How’s it goin Davey?!?

D.Stern: Aint nothin’ shakin but ASS!

West: Real cute Davey Boi, but let’s get down to business…

D.Stern: (thinking to himself) O goodness…is he coming on to me?

West: Thanks for sending us The Diesel, he’s been begging for a sidekick to argue and play with. Someone who is serious, works hard, and has a little hair on his head….you know…the opposite of himself.

D.Stern: Well there is this kid named Kobay…Jellybean’s seed.

West: We’ll take him! You can move the drunk (Vlade) and I’ll even throw in some more mess to get him…

D.Stern: Done! And o yea, Jerry…keep him out of Colorado!

West: Whaaaa??

D.Stern: Nevermind…enjoy the titles…Phil Jackson….and both Pau and Lamar.

[Tobe BryantParticipant]

The year is 1996….

Jerry West enters the room…

D.Stern: Hey Symbol! (Shoutout to my boi Symbol…lol)

West: How’s it goin Davey?!?

D.Stern: Aint nothin’ shakin but ASS!

West: Real cute Davey Boi, but let’s get down to business…

D.Stern: (thinking to himself) O goodness…is he coming on to me?

West: Thanks for sending us The Diesel, he’s been begging for a sidekick to argue and play with. Someone who is serious, works hard, and has a little hair on his head….you know…the opposite of himself.

D.Stern: Well there is this kid named Kobay…Jellybean’s seed.

West: We’ll take him! You can move the drunk (Vlade) and I’ll even throw in some more mess to get him…

D.Stern: Done! And o yea, Jerry…keep him out of Colorado!

West: Whaaaa??

D.Stern: Nevermind…enjoy the titles…Phil Jackson….and both Pau and Lamar.

[Jlv2011]

rigged in all aspects of the game.

[Jlv2011]

rigged in all aspects of the game.

[aamir543Participant]

Its not rigged, its innacurate and biased, but rigged implies that David Stern decides who wins every year, and while I am not completely ruling out the possibility, I dont think its fixed, but it is definately not fair.

[aamir543Participant]

Its not rigged, its innacurate and biased, but rigged implies that David Stern decides who wins every year, and while I am not completely ruling out the possibility, I dont think its fixed, but it is definately not fair.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 They have never once gotten lucky in the lottery, ever.  Every year they have been in the lottery, they have picked lower or even with where they were projected based on the odds.  Just a funny little fact.

 

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 They have never once gotten lucky in the lottery, ever.  Every year they have been in the lottery, they have picked lower or even with where they were projected based on the odds.  Just a funny little fact.

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

The "lottery fix" pick is the Bobcats getting Harrison Barnes who might end up being the NCAA player of the year (I also have UNC as the favorites to win the title).  Barnes would be a great fit at small forward with Bismack up front and Kemba and DJ Augustin in the backcourt.  If the Bobcats win the 1st pick it will fuel some speculation but the NBA now thrives on controversy (Kobe, LeBron, the Heat’s Big Three).

I don’t see Cleveland winning it two years in a row but they might end up with the 3rd pick.

The 2nd pick will come down to Toronto, Detroit, and the LA Clippers with the T Wolves pick (Blake Griffin needs help along with Eric Gordon).

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

The "lottery fix" pick is the Bobcats getting Harrison Barnes who might end up being the NCAA player of the year (I also have UNC as the favorites to win the title).  Barnes would be a great fit at small forward with Bismack up front and Kemba and DJ Augustin in the backcourt.  If the Bobcats win the 1st pick it will fuel some speculation but the NBA now thrives on controversy (Kobe, LeBron, the Heat’s Big Three).

I don’t see Cleveland winning it two years in a row but they might end up with the 3rd pick.

The 2nd pick will come down to Toronto, Detroit, and the LA Clippers with the T Wolves pick (Blake Griffin needs help along with Eric Gordon).

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

It may not be "fair", but I think it is a fine system for the NBA. As far as your simulated conversations, I really hope you did not spend a lot of time on them. Yes, it is fine too think Sterns pulls the strings and rigs the NBA, but crazy things always seem too happen, and good teams seem to win games and are usually accompanied by good management. You can think otherwise, that is your perogative, but I think the theory of the lottery being fixed has very little merit. The only first pick too have lead (<Key word) his team too a title on the original team that chose him was Tim Duncan (If you say Hakeem Olajuwon, than you are not talking about the lottery, which did not happen until 1985). If David Stern really wanted too rig things, than there is no way Duncan is not a Celtic, sorry too say. Think he wanted the low ratings of the 2007 NBA Finals? Not exactly. I could go on, but I just think there is very little merit and do not understand the constant complaints associated with the lottery.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

It may not be "fair", but I think it is a fine system for the NBA. As far as your simulated conversations, I really hope you did not spend a lot of time on them. Yes, it is fine too think Sterns pulls the strings and rigs the NBA, but crazy things always seem too happen, and good teams seem to win games and are usually accompanied by good management. You can think otherwise, that is your perogative, but I think the theory of the lottery being fixed has very little merit. The only first pick too have lead (<Key word) his team too a title on the original team that chose him was Tim Duncan (If you say Hakeem Olajuwon, than you are not talking about the lottery, which did not happen until 1985). If David Stern really wanted too rig things, than there is no way Duncan is not a Celtic, sorry too say. Think he wanted the low ratings of the 2007 NBA Finals? Not exactly. I could go on, but I just think there is very little merit and do not understand the constant complaints associated with the lottery.

[aamir543Participant]

@MikeyV, don’t worry, I am not one of those people that their existence trying tofind ways to bust the NBA. If fact, when I said that its not fair, I was reffering to the officiating of games. I dont think its fixed, in fact, I dont even think the lottery is fixed, I was just poking fun at the commish, and thought of some interesting plots. I don’t think Stern fixes things, the only way in which I think the league is a bit unfair, is in the in game officiating, and it is obvious to everyone, but that would just be nitpicking. But dont worry I dont spend my life thinking of conspiracies and what not. That’s Tim Donahue’s job.(Not Tim Donhagy, for those of you that are confused.)

[aamir543Participant]

@MikeyV, don’t worry, I am not one of those people that their existence trying tofind ways to bust the NBA. If fact, when I said that its not fair, I was reffering to the officiating of games. I dont think its fixed, in fact, I dont even think the lottery is fixed, I was just poking fun at the commish, and thought of some interesting plots. I don’t think Stern fixes things, the only way in which I think the league is a bit unfair, is in the in game officiating, and it is obvious to everyone, but that would just be nitpicking. But dont worry I dont spend my life thinking of conspiracies and what not. That’s Tim Donahue’s job.(Not Tim Donhagy, for those of you that are confused.)

[MCRIZZParticipant]

2007

Portland calls stern

P – David I think its time that you guys give us one more chance…Its been a lonng time since we made that error picking bowie over jordan and we wont make that kind of mistake again ….We havent even had a #1 since 1978..

S- Interesting, I do believe in second chances

P – Our organization is on the rise with roy and LA picked last year and we could become one of the most exciting teams to watch for years to come….Noone will even remember the days of the "jailblazers" 

S- You know what I agree its time for portland to become a powerhouse 

P – YES YES YES you wont regret it …..Greg oden here we come 

S- (muttering to self) They will never learn 

P – whats that? 

S- Nevermind enjoy your next 7 years 

[MCRIZZParticipant]

2007

Portland calls stern

P – David I think its time that you guys give us one more chance…Its been a lonng time since we made that error picking bowie over jordan and we wont make that kind of mistake again ….We havent even had a #1 since 1978..

S- Interesting, I do believe in second chances

P – Our organization is on the rise with roy and LA picked last year and we could become one of the most exciting teams to watch for years to come….Noone will even remember the days of the "jailblazers" 

S- You know what I agree its time for portland to become a powerhouse 

P – YES YES YES you wont regret it …..Greg oden here we come 

S- (muttering to self) They will never learn 

P – whats that? 

S- Nevermind enjoy your next 7 years 

[rwd5035Participant]

 @MemphisMadness Do you really think that Augustin, and Kemba can play in the backcourt together? Not enough size, or defense amongst these two. Not to suggest that Kemba is a bad defender, but who guards the opposition SG in that case? Seems a tough match up for them. If we get any form of an NBA season, and the Charlotte Bobcats aren’t the worst team, I’ll be stunned. On paper, it’s tough to see how they’ll score 90 a game (I know, it’s an overexaggeration, but I find it accurate in some ways). It seems incredibly unlikely for a team to maybe tie, or break my Sixers 9-73 mark, but they’ll be a team if the pieces fall the right way who can run it close. If you can’t score, you can’t win.

I have a tap set up in David Stern’s phone (don’t tell him I said that), and here’s what I picked up from this past season, from Cleveland’s Dan Gilbert:

G: Hey Stern! Um, we lost Lebron, we should get the #1 pick.

S: Hey man, I understand your quandary. Do you want me to rig some officiating so you can easily have the worst losing streak in NBA history? 

G: Excellent! Anyway we could rig a trade so we get the Clippers #1 pick, and somehow win the #1 pick with their pick, instead of our own? 

S: That would be great, we love to screw over the Clippers.

G: Alright good, now I just have to hit send on this letter, and we’ll be good to go. Nice chat!

[rwd5035Participant]

 @MemphisMadness Do you really think that Augustin, and Kemba can play in the backcourt together? Not enough size, or defense amongst these two. Not to suggest that Kemba is a bad defender, but who guards the opposition SG in that case? Seems a tough match up for them. If we get any form of an NBA season, and the Charlotte Bobcats aren’t the worst team, I’ll be stunned. On paper, it’s tough to see how they’ll score 90 a game (I know, it’s an overexaggeration, but I find it accurate in some ways). It seems incredibly unlikely for a team to maybe tie, or break my Sixers 9-73 mark, but they’ll be a team if the pieces fall the right way who can run it close. If you can’t score, you can’t win.

I have a tap set up in David Stern’s phone (don’t tell him I said that), and here’s what I picked up from this past season, from Cleveland’s Dan Gilbert:

G: Hey Stern! Um, we lost Lebron, we should get the #1 pick.

S: Hey man, I understand your quandary. Do you want me to rig some officiating so you can easily have the worst losing streak in NBA history? 

G: Excellent! Anyway we could rig a trade so we get the Clippers #1 pick, and somehow win the #1 pick with their pick, instead of our own? 

S: That would be great, we love to screw over the Clippers.

G: Alright good, now I just have to hit send on this letter, and we’ll be good to go. Nice chat!

[Jlv2011]

Stern: I feel bad for the Cavs after Lebaby ditched them.  Let’s give them the #1 pick.  Hell, give them the fourth one too.

[Jlv2011]

Stern: I feel bad for the Cavs after Lebaby ditched them.  Let’s give them the #1 pick.  Hell, give them the fourth one too.

[MCRIZZParticipant]

maybe something was mentioned about gilbert’s promise to get cavs a ring before bron….

Cleveland – think of the rivalry you can make with this David…We can become the home town team that was screwed over and lebron can become the villain

Stern – interesting ..what are you asking?

Cleveland – top pick and another top 5

Stern – your crazy

Cleveland –  Am I? If we get these picks people can get behind us, were building through our system and not doing the FA deal like lebron the exact way a "traditional" organization is built, we can stand for whats good while lebron can stand for everything the league frowns upon ….

Stern – I always thought of introducing a wwf type rivalry, the boston laker rivalry is the only true rivalry thats lasted, this could work….you got it… 

[MCRIZZParticipant]

maybe something was mentioned about gilbert’s promise to get cavs a ring before bron….

Cleveland – think of the rivalry you can make with this David…We can become the home town team that was screwed over and lebron can become the villain

Stern – interesting ..what are you asking?

Cleveland – top pick and another top 5

Stern – your crazy

Cleveland –  Am I? If we get these picks people can get behind us, were building through our system and not doing the FA deal like lebron the exact way a "traditional" organization is built, we can stand for whats good while lebron can stand for everything the league frowns upon ….

Stern – I always thought of introducing a wwf type rivalry, the boston laker rivalry is the only true rivalry thats lasted, this could work….you got it… 

[aamir543Participant]

Stern and Gilbert on the phone right now-

Stern- So, how are the new pups going?

Gilbert- They are good, they are good, both can be solid starters, but they more like late lottery talents than top 5 tal-

Stern- You want Drummond don’t you.

Gilbert- Yes.

Stern- Oh my, Well, I’ll put you second in line, OK, cause the other team might make the playoffs.

Gilbert- Which team?

Stern- The Knicks.

Gilbert- What are you talking about! They have Amare and Melo, of course they’ll make the playoffs!

Stern- Hee Hee Hee, not on my watch!

Gilbert- What are you going to do.

Stern- Let’s just say….. the two of them will be making plenty of trips to Dr. James Andrews, Hee, hee, hee.

Gilbert- Ok, Ok, but remember, we gotta win before lebron,.

Stern- Look, I’ll give you one more year, than you gotta do it on your own

Gilbert- Thanks man!

Stern- Anytime, Anytime.

 

 

 

[aamir543Participant]

Stern and Gilbert on the phone right now-

Stern- So, how are the new pups going?

Gilbert- They are good, they are good, both can be solid starters, but they more like late lottery talents than top 5 tal-

Stern- You want Drummond don’t you.

Gilbert- Yes.

Stern- Oh my, Well, I’ll put you second in line, OK, cause the other team might make the playoffs.

Gilbert- Which team?

Stern- The Knicks.

Gilbert- What are you talking about! They have Amare and Melo, of course they’ll make the playoffs!

Stern- Hee Hee Hee, not on my watch!

Gilbert- What are you going to do.

Stern- Let’s just say….. the two of them will be making plenty of trips to Dr. James Andrews, Hee, hee, hee.

Gilbert- Ok, Ok, but remember, we gotta win before lebron,.

Stern- Look, I’ll give you one more year, than you gotta do it on your own

Gilbert- Thanks man!

Stern- Anytime, Anytime.

 

 

 

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