[joe2324Participant]

After watching the sixers with Embiid and Noel, I think its obvious the team is just better. I’mnot saying Okafor won’t shine on another team, but with the sixers and this group, it doesnt work. With this draft being heavy in guards, would it make sense to move Okafor to a team like Dallas? If this happens, the sixers could end up with 3 picks in the first round and snatch up a bunch of guards. 

[binetParticipant]

 Technically, Okafor despite his struggles should still have a high value, probably top 10 pick in a draft class that is not as good or as hyped as this year.

With how bad the center prospects are this year, it’s very possible a team would prefer him to their selection at 8->14 in the lottery because they want/need their center of the future, and Okafor still is a very talented and very young one.

The sixers situation though make his value under though. They pretty much have to trade one of their bigs. Jahlil has been the worse fit to their roster so should be the odd man out, fans do hate him and want him out.

Dallas is unrealistic in my opinion, Chicago probably would give their first rounder since they also have the Sac pick and their own pick is at about the right price considering Jahlil will be on sale.

[joe2324Participant]

 3 really good guards who can shoot and pass to go along with simmons, embiid and noel. Although I think Josh Jackson is the most talented and NBA ready player, but I think he’ll eventually go number 1 overall when its all done. If for some reason, he actually slips, sixers would be foolish to pass him up.

[negguaryParticipant]

Even with all of his flaws he has a proven skill set in the NBA which some teams still covet, low post scoring. On the other hand, you don’t really know what those incoming top ten players can do in the league, and when you narrow it down even more to the teams who don’t need a guard but need a low post scorer he becomes even more appealing. Now I’m not referring to the top 3 maybe four players that you take regardless of fit because their talent is so high i.e., fultz, Jackson, ball, smith(maybe), but outside of that if you come up with a pick in the top ten( 5-10) and you are already guard heavy then acquiring jahlil okafor is a great deal. Let’s be clear oak averaged 17 per game his rookie year, and looks more suspect this year because of how GREAT, EXCEPTIONAL, RARE embeast is, and the things the team can do with embeast as opposed to oak, but remove that and jahlil is still a great center who is only 21 with time to grow and the right system and coach could blossom. It’s not like he’s greg monroes age and you can say ok what you see is what you get, he’s still in the same age range of those top ten players and the right coach could motivate him. Honestly he would still go top five to three in this draft period.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 Please name a team that still covers low post scoring?

Classic 76er negguary Homer stuff.  You would be hard pressed right now to get a top 20 pick for Okafor let alone a top 10.  Lol.  The rest of the world sees what 76er fans do not.  Okafor will be a bench scorer for the remainder of his years.

 

[binetParticipant]

 Not really. 76ers fans are actually the harshest when it comes to Okafor. Being the third of the three centers drafted just put him in the position where the two others are the ones the fans want and love, particularly when they are also good players. 

I honestly think that even if Okafor was Karl Towns right now and in between Embiid (starter over Towns also tbh) and Noel, Philly fans would hate him and show you stats that say he is very bad because he can’t defend. Obviously Okafor is not Towns but he still is a talented player.

Okafor would be consider an exciting young player just like many others if he were to play elsewhere, he is mainly crushed because right now his numbers are not as good as Embiid’s on a very bad sixers team. 

But, tbh, being DBPM 0.4 on a team like the sixers does not deserve to be considered the worse defender ever.

I think when Brett Brown qualifies him as a starter, he genuinely thinks Jahlil is a starting caliber center in this league, something he has never said of Nerlens despite playing him over Jah recently.

Okafor "commands double-teams" like Brown said recently. And if you watch any game where he plays, this is the absolute truth. And this is extremely valuable in today’s basketball, whether you are a center or not, low-post scorer or not. His issue remains on his offensive success after commanding that double team but that could easily be attributed to the team personnel around him in Philly, especially when he plays with the second unit, or to the coaching skills of Brett Brown.

Jahlil still is very young and has room to grow and develop. A lot of other players his age are getting pass for similar defensive issues. Bigs usually take time to develop. 

Of course Jah is a project/bet right now but clearly not more than any draft pick, and he still shows enough potantial to be a player you should consider very high when in rebuilding if you don’t have your center of the future. The thing is not many teams need such a center, and among them, very few have the proper trade piece to make a fair, or even 75% fair deal unless they give away a top 10 pick they need at least just as much in their rebuilding process.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MatosParticipant]

 Im not reading all of that. But Magic is right. This guy Negguary is so unbelievably biased when it comes to the Sixers. I’m a sixers fan, but its because of the outlandish/farfetched-thinking fans who overvalue our players, that we collectively get looked at this way. Lets come back down to earth. Embiid is the best player on the team by a long shot, Simmons hasn’t played a game, Noel is an average talent, and the rest of the roster is weak. This guy would make the arguement that Embiid may be the best center in the league, Simmons may be the best passer, and Noel may be the best defender. Like come on! 

[negguaryParticipant]

Is arguably the best center in the league! Have said that from day 1. Also, don’t really think Noel is that good and don’t think that oak fits in this era, but if you read my post you would see that I said that he has upside and has already shown he can score against grown men, NBA men, which goes back to the original question in regards to top ten talent. Also, I highly doubt you’re really from Philly lol maybe the outskirts because if you were you would probably carry my passionate attitude about the team and you would also carry the attitude of not caring what others think of you, and you also would never be hanging from someone’s name magic Jordan’s lol stay over there MyG! I do believe TLC will be more than solid you can book me for that I do believe if healthy and with a developed jumpshot Simmons has the potential to be a superstar book me for that as well.  Oh and the Spurs, grizzles, clippers to some extent Denver, and Boston still covet low post scoring which is why I said some teams so once again internet thug who in real life wouldn’t buss a grape in a fruit fight GOMD!! 

[MatosParticipant]

Internet thug? You butt hurt? Really guy? Ok. Firstly, I’m from South West. Born and raised. Been a sixers fan. Grew up on A.I. I’m actually not that hard to find too. I’m a recording artist (I’d probably be your favorite if you didn’t read my last post – check me out when you get the chance guy). Bottom line – I just have common sense and knowledge. I guess you’re a little hurt that I called you out. Being a passionate fan has nothing to do with being delusional. 

[negguaryParticipant]

internet thug is in reference to the guy you concurred with who consistently is condescending and is constantly being smart. Again what’s your rap name? Never heard of you, better yet include the link to a song of yours in response to this post? Also, butt hurt?????????????????????????? woah buddy! And what did you call me on because after reading your post I don’t see one thing that you based off of me because I never said those things about simmons noel or embeast though I would argue with anyone that he potentially is the best big man in the league based off numbers.

[MatosParticipant]

*Mus Matos

Soundcloud, iTunes, the works.

Back to ball, what I called you out on was based off other threads you’ve posted on. You overvalue Sixers players. You’ve said in another thread that the sixers could go on to win a championship next year. Be realistic. Set realistic goals. Stop with all the BS.

 

 

[negguaryParticipant]

I checked you out, your garbage lol but if you looked right under that post, I wrote another post titled *spell check I said playoffs, but im happy you’re watching. And again you still have not pointed to a thread where I put a value on a player other than EMBEAST!!! which I still stand by, so even your example is not relevant to your claim that I overvalue philly players…stay over there MyG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>oh yeah my but hurt???????? Go that away>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[MatosParticipant]

 LOL. 650,000+ plays on soundcloud off 7 songs but im garbage hahaha. Nice. I’m done talking to you boy. Keep reaching for the stars "My G" hahahaa.

[negguaryParticipant]

nice reply! At the end of the day we may view the team differently, but I know for a fact this process was the right move. Also, Heinke wanted to draft porzingus so again the process that he started was clearly the right move! He also drafted embeast and caught flack for that look now though. Noel was Noel and saric for dru still a good move no one knew the freak would be this no one! And of course Simmons so yes I have the right to be excited I’ve been putting up with criticism and disrespect about my team for four years now yet the fakers have been equally as bad and has not nearly if any media scrutiny that we did. And again, my butt hurt??? You must perform at shampoo on sundays 

[MatosParticipant]

Shampoo? What type of weird sht are you into guy? You gotta chill. You’re an extremely weird individual.

And Hinkie would have drafted Porzingis if he wanted him. He drafted Okafor instead. He was still with the team smart guy. And getting back to the point of this thread, Okafor at this point is not gonna pull a top 10 pick for the sixers. Especially with this draft.

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 If being constantly smart is thuggish then I am mother fucking 2Pac.

You got something against smart people?  Besides the fact that you are not one of us.  Internet idiot.

 

[negguaryParticipant]

stay over there MyG LOL….your afraid to disagree with people in real life LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

You mean from his Duke resume, or what he’s done in the NBA?  He can’t defend a lick fellas.  He is a major drop off on the defensive end, he’s not a threat to any post players.  The Sixers have one of the best paint defenses in the league with Embiid and Noel.  

I still wish Jah could play with Embiid.  I still think its not having Simmons that killed that.  I think Simmons has an IQ at the level of both Embiid and Jah and they could’ve figured it out.  Sergio and TJMc don’t have the ability to take lead of the bigs and feed them in the right spot.

As John Wooden said, the role of the PG is to get his teammates touches at the appropriate time, they have to read the game situation and also the know their personnel.

Before the season I was salivating at the idea of Jah who was pounding weak PFs, Joel who would command double teams, and Simmons who is a problem at his size and ability to drive and pass.  That would collapse defenses.  But it didn’t work it was too crowded in the paint.  I still don’t think Brown used it effectively.  I wish teh team could’ve figured out how to play the two bigs together and use the roster they had. 

Anyway, I still feel Simmons can make Jah a much better player.  Jah’s tendency to hold on to the ball is a problem…so is that with Embiid.  Both guys could possibly have played together with better recognition of how to pass out of the double.  If they could recognize that and mismatches instead of both playing back to basket ball, they could’ve taken advantage of mismatches.  I think Simmons the floor general might be able to help with that.

So, am I still curious about Jah’s possibilities on the squad?  Yeah, but he can’t defend a lick!  He is lazy with effort and Embiid sees that and complained about it to the Media.  Jah pick and chose when he wants to play hard and he was inspired playing with Embiid but is lazy with his other teammates.

Anyway, Chicago should take him now.  I thought we might do Rondo and a pick for Jah…the beauty of it is if we somehow get 11 or 14 for Jah, we absolutely dont’ need Jah, so we’d only be getting better by grabbing someone.  

Or I proposed to Orlando that needs to mix up their roster, Jah and Saric for 10, and we grab Markkanen there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[binetParticipant]

 His sixer resume is not that bad. Of course he can net a good first rounder, and yes he would still fall in the lottery easy in this year’s draft even with his current resume. 

You are talking like he is Anthony Bennett, Noah Vonleh… He is not. Still has upside. Still shows flashes. Still is young. Still looks like the most talented when he plays alongside fellow sixer bench guys. 

Advanced Stats are not everything. Otherwise everybody’s mock this year would have Ethan Happ as a lottery pick.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Are you out your re mind I wouldn’t trade Saric for Markennan straight up.  Dario makes winning plays and is both a floor spacer and facilitator that is tough and hustles.    He’s perfect for this team and Embiid and Ben.

 

And Orlando already themselves have 3 starting caliber Centers

 

 

[PhillySteveParticipant]

If Jah and Saric were traded for a 10, Colangelo would find himself living in a shotgun shack. 

Are you crazy?

I might do Jah straight up, but Saric is/should be close to untouchable.

Hell, if it werent for Joe, he’d win ROY.

The kids progress in his first 1/2 has been much faster than expected. He has off the chart IQ, and does everything really well. He will be on the next Sixers Championship team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Jah doesn’t help us, he’s basically a giveaway and you want something of value.

Saric is a nice NBA player, but he’s inconsistent.  His shot is not dependable.  He is actually a bad defender, he’s a classic tweener.  Like Thad Young was, because Thad cannot defend big PFs, early in the season Dario was getting smashed.  

Saric is a nice player to spread the floor, but again I don’t think Brown uses him properly.  Saric could build his confidence by having the ball in his hands more and conducting the offense, but in the NBA, that job falls to your PGs, but I cannot wait for Sergio to get off this team, he dribbles the ball way too much and doesn’t have a feel for the game.

So its because of Saric’s defense, lack of athleticism, and inconsistent play that I don’t mind shipping him off for an absolute sharpshooter in Markkanen.

Markkanen gives you everything Saric does, but is way more consistent shooting the ball.  He’s like Ilyasova, but better.  Their defense is about the same but Markkanen is a bigger guy so less likely to get pushed around.

So I’d do it because I want to fit the best pieces around my bigs.  I think Markkanen is a better fit to space the floor.

 

I could see Dario on the championship team as the Kukoc role 6th or 7th guy off the bench.  But Kukoc had crazy length.  I want guys that are taylormade built for the NBA and sharpshooters.

So i’d give up a lot, to get a great fit.  

Simmons, Embiid, Isaac, Monk, Markkanen.  That is a nasty team.  Yes, I’d do it with 3 rookies that are great fits.

6’10, 7’2”, 6’10”, 6’3”, 6’10”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[binetParticipant]

 Markannen over Saric seriously? I have the feeling you have seen none of the two play.

You arguing Dario cannot defend big NBA 4( which is debatable with his recent play, he is way better than when not acclimated to the NBA rythm), when Markannen is regularly dominated by NCAA 4/5s below 6’8".

Markannen cannot defend or rebound and he is slow as hell, have little arms/hand.

Shooting won’t help him. Like a Bargnani he will not get any boards, and be atrocious on D. And it’s not like he is halfway as skilled as Bargnani.

Saric is getting better each game and starting to be really a good player. He is not a superstar but he is a good do-everything 4. He shoots well, fights, is clutch, can pass, rebounds decently and has moves. So far, like other rookies including sixer Embiid and Luwawu, he commits too many TOs (travels in Saric’s case). His advanced stats do not look good, but with his first months and his splits at the 3 (that are indeed atrocious) they are not necessarily concerning, especially since he plays most of his minutes alongside Okafor or Noel with Ilyasova starting.

If you just watched the last 10 games, which includes the best of sixers basketball in years, Dario has clearly been solid and way better than veteran Ilyasova (arguably very bad recently, earning his right to leave).

 

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[markfitz14Participant]

Why would you do that lol????SMH

Oak plus Lakers Pick for a player (to be named)that is of some use RIGHT NOW. There is no need to have 3 rookies on a potential playoff team next year. I just don’t understand that thinking. 

  

[binetParticipant]

 Golden State had 3 rookies in 2012-2013 and made the playoff that year. Interestingly that turned out pretty well after that. And those 3 rookies were great, even though Draymond is the only one still around.

[markfitz14Participant]

I wouldn’t mind a late first round or second rounder along with the first pick. But 3 players from the top 10 doesn’t make sense. 

[negguaryParticipant]

How does that make sense?? LOL you wouldn’t want three picks from the Top ten that have a higher chance of being successful in the league, but would want a mid late and a second rounder???? HOW SWAY HOW?????????????? Please explain the logic!!! YOU DONT HAVE THE ANSWERS SWAY!!! you should have just stuck to the three rookies are no good period line because what you just said was, was, was idek! HOW SWAY!!!

[UncledrewParticipant]

 Is he worth a top 10 pick in last year’s draft…Maybe….is he worth a top 10 pick in this year’s draft….NEGATIVE

[UncledrewParticipant]

 Whoever negged me go ahead and explain why he worth a top 10 pick in this-loaded draft otherwise stop hating and stfu

[UncledrewParticipant]

OK mystery hater(s) he’s worth a top 10 pick your right. He barely plays for the Sixers who finally won over 10 games and he’s supposed to go to another team and be a star. Your absolutely right

[Evan_MilbergParticipant]

Personally, I’m not high on Okafor or Noel. Okafor can’t defend at all and doesn’t rebound at nearly a high enough rate for a guy his size. Noel has a high ceiling defensively and I think is slightly better offensively than he was coming out of college, but I’d be worried about durability with him moving forward. Same concern for Okafor too actually. I also am not convinced either of them are team-first players who have the personality or work ethic necessary to improve. 

Sixers need to find a way to trade both IMO, but I doubt either are worth a top 10 pick at this point. My suggestions: 

1) Trade Okafor to Portland for Harkless and Aminu. Maybe add a future protected 1st rounder if you think Okafor’s worth more. Philly gets help on the wing and Portland gets an upgrade at PF.

2) Trade Noel to Minnesota for Kris Dunn. Dunn is not a position to get decent minutes in Minnesota, and Minnesota could use added defensive help. Sixers get a great prospect at PG

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Nah they won’t do that.  They know Aminu (I love him), is their best defender by far.  So why would they give up their best defender for a horrible defender?  They might want Noel but I still dont’ think they give up Aminu.  They might give up Crabbe even thoguh Crabbe is shooting the 3 well (40+).  Aminu is similar to both Simmons and Saric as it is, probably a better perimeter defender than Saric.

I woudln’t trade Noel to Minnesota for Dunn.  Dunn is athletic and a nice defender but you must really be banking on Richuan Holmes to step his game up.  

I’d rather keep Noel as my backup big, unless we have Dunn come off the bench because this is the year to focus on perimeter players.

Isaac, Monk, Ntilinka are three targets I have in mind.  Why give up a great post-defender for Dunn when you can grab Isaac and Ntilinka who will be as good as Dunn on the defensive side…Dunn’s offense needs a lot of work.  We need shooters, and guys that can spread the floor.

 

 

 

  

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 Okafor could be very valuable on another team. Knicks cavs and bucks just to name a few

[trombonematrix43Participant]

Guys throw away Okafors offensive game like it just grows on trees. Lol. Yeah, he might have a weakness on defense but he’s 21. Maybe Sixer fans over value him, but some people talk about him like he’s Kwame Brown incarnate or something. 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

finding the right pieces around Embiid and Simmons.

Okafor +/- is a liability bro.  The only time I feel we should use him is late in the 3rd quarter when the opposing team only has 2 bigs, like Amir Johnson, who is tired of dealing iwth Embiid and athletic Noel.  When you rest Embiid and Noel, then insert Okafor to foul Johnson’s ass out and create havoc, kill him, especially when your team is struggling to get buckets and the other team is tired anyway.

Thats when you insert Okafor, but he is very overlooked by these guards and i’m not sure why.  He is a good soldier.  But the guards have to get him his touches and they overlook him.  He needs to ask for the ball like Embiid does.  

But yeah, late in the 3rd quarter, use Okafor to murder the other side’s tired big who has been playing all game while Oak comes in with fresh legs.

That also helps make him look really good and enhances his trade value.  

 

 

 

 

  

[HitsterParticipant]

 Okafor is a good scorer and a similar type player to him Kanter is on a nice second contract. But rather like Kanter as said above Okafor is probably going to be a very good bench scorer.

I’d always have been interested to see how the Oak would have faired in NY or at the Lakers, given that Philly fans give him a hard time, I dread to think what the Lakers fans in particular would have made of his lack of defensive game.

Back to the question is he worth a top 10 pick, posdsibly yes but it would be lower top 10 say in 8 to 10 range and the theory would be a team looking for a big man and possibly first big is off the draft board on draft night so Okafor’s rookie deal appeals to them.

Also my main concern about the Oak is that his defensive game doesn’t seem to have improved, Coach K or Brett Brown so will it ever do so.

 

 

 

[SmooveKRYPTParticipant]

Idk about top 10 in this specific draft. I’d give a pick in the late lotta-mid teen range + a player for him. A team like Chicago who are likely to get 2 late lotto-mid teen picks and could use another building block would be a good fit.

Also if I’m Charlotte, he’d be a guy I’d target in a trade. They’re a regular middle-bottom of the pack playoff team in the east which doesn’t give you a great chance at improving through the draft. I’d offer to give up my pick (currently slotted at 16) and Lamb for Oak. They had their best year when Al Jefferson was manning the post. With their core pretty much set thanks to the $ invested, they would do well to get a scorer who they could put on the 2nd unit front line with Frank and give them a scoring boost.

The Knicks should definitely be in on him too.

 

 

[UncledrewParticipant]

You know what yall are retarded the question was is he worth a Top 10 pick not can he be valuable…so then I said yea you trolls are right sure he’s worth it that’s the popular opinion and still get negged. It’s very obvious your negging my username not what I’m saying. I wonder how many of you actually know the game. Probably a bunch of 10 year Olds I’m talking to.

[nill650Participant]

 If Boston has a top 3 pick and Philly does not get Lakers they could trade Okafor and thier other lottery pick  to Boston to move into the top 3.

I don’t see any other lottery team besides Boston being interested in moving the pick for an offensive old man game center.

 

 

 

[nill650Participant]

 Despite his strong low post scoring ability and despite his poor defensive skillset , the majority of tyeams that could use him are not currently in the lottery. Cleveland could use Okafor , Portland could use Okafor , who else? nobody except Boston.

unless a team that is not one of the odds on favorites to land in the top 10 trades for a higher pick aka a team that actually needs a center…that is past looking for upside high draft picks to fit into thier rebuilds.

none of the current teams projected for the top 10 need a center more than they need some other positions other than Boston who is no longer in rebuild.

few teams that actually value this type of center like Memphis or Dallas already have one and only Dallas will be in the lottery so what is the odds Okafor gets traded to a lottery team :50:1

the odds Philly gets a top 10 pick for him? not without trading thier lottery pick to move up.

[binetParticipant]

 If Philly waits draft night and the number of expected good to great players stays this high I could see number of teams swap lottery picks with Philly’s own or the Lakers pick for Okafor.

Teams like Dallas, New Orleans, New York etc… It depends on the exact pick(s) concerned but it’s tight enough right now that if Philly wants maybe Dennis Smith at 3, a team that wants a wing and likes all 3 of Jackson/Tatum/Isaac almost equally(like many I still have Jackson above, but the consensus is that these 3 guys have very close stock apparently) could easily trade down.

Some of these team would also maybe trade #1 for #2 or #3 +Okafor if they do not target Fultz.

The lottery impacts also differently, with Sacramento likely to give a 11th-14th pick to chicago that may very well want to trade it for Jahlil, given they already have their own pick in that area (more 15-20)and the lack of talented Center in this draft.

Jahlil being a project he is more someone you trade for at end of season.

 

 

 

 

 

[nill650Participant]

 The semantics are all relative to who picks when, and we don’t know that yet. So yeah you are correct. But the one thing we do know is that there are not any teams in the lottery that would need Okafors services above the likes of a heavily recruited freshman class such as this one. Except Boston. Chicago might be interested in trading Rondo to Philly for Okafor and say Rodriguez’ expiring no picks.

[binetParticipant]

Rondo has negative value right now. His contract is not good, he is not playing well and he is getting a reputation of a locker room cancer. No way he is worth Okafor +.

Okafor is still a guy that was all rookie first team last year, and despite the hate he receives, is young, and showed flashes of dominance even this season struggling (notably in the W against Detroit without Embiid, and last game against Washington.. 2 very good games). Being behind Joel Embiid is not really telling since Embiid is having a Duncanesque impact.

Any team that has an aging starting Center or a bad starting Center could take the Jahlil bet. Of course, playoff teams and contenders don’t really want to do it in the middle of the season threatenning everything for a bet/project. Jahlil asking price, even if it’s a mid to late lottery this year, is not that high. He still is a young talent at center when the draft lacks any.

 

 

[nill650Participant]

 Rondo is a lockeroom cancer just like Cousins etc but philly needs a pg more than they need Okafor and despite the clashing with MCW in Chicago I think Philly would pull the trigger on that trade in thier sleep. Do I think Chicago could get more than Okafor and an injured expiring for him,no… do I think philly can get a more "fits the process" player for Okafor via a pick sure if they want this rebuild to continue for the next 5 years. It is time for the Sixers to get some vets in there and move on from this ideal of lottery love.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Good point by Smoovekrypt about Charlotte as a destination for the Oak, they have Roy Hibbert expiring this summer and if he moves on then Okafor could soak up his minutes. Okafor offers post scoring whilst Zeller and Frank the Tank are more midrange guys.

As Smoovekrypt said the Hornets did well with Big Al as a post scorer and Okafor offers something similar. Okafor would also get a chance to work with Patrick Ewing who is an excellent coach of big men and if Patrick couldn’t teach Okafor a bit of defensive knowledge then no one could.

Also Charlotte don’t have much cap room for a couple of years so Okafor’s rookie deal would be attractive to them.

 

 

[mowestenParticipant]

 The No 10 pick could be Jayson Tatum. He’s No 9 on the NBADraft most recent mock. So I guess the question is, if Tatum falls to No. 10, would you trade that pick for Okafor.

I don’t think so. 

I think a Okafor is going to have a good career. To me he is similar to Enes Kanter and his ceiling is probably Zack Randolph. 

But this is a really deep draft IMO and the No 10 pick could yield a future star. 

[binetParticipant]

 If Tatum slides to 10 there will be reasons. Right now the Duke 2017 freshman class is disappointing. Mostly because Marquese Bolden does not look like an NBA talent (Okafor or worse on D with no O), but also because they are not as good as the Kentucky classes of previous years praised the same, or just Kentucky or UCLA freshmen this season. Tatum’s game is concerning because he is not efficient. He is taking/forcing mostly midrange jumpers and does not make enough of them to justify this shot selection. He lacks the elite athleticism Josh Jackson has. His main strength is defense right now and there is a chance it does not translate when he defends on the perimeter as a 3, even moreso as he faces guys that are stronger and more athletic than him.

His stock right now is very 3PT improvement dependant, otherwise I don’t think he will be taken before Isaac and Jackson, and that’s him sliding to 8-14 given the other guys at other positions indeed.

Depending on team needs, a Tatum that could not become efficient in NCAA and slides around there is not necessarily better than Okafor. A team like Dallas, already having Barnes in Tatum’s role, if they end there, could prefer Jah.

 

 

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