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- Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:21am #40825
- Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:25am #687360

TyroberParticipantYou have 10 posts while having 5 created topics asking for insider material. Contribute something to the site before asking for paid material for free.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:25am #687363

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantTyrober, that’s exactly what I say. I don’t mind giving Insider to guys that actually post, but this? Ridiculous.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:28am #687364

TyroberParticipantYeah I’ll post insider for anyone with a couple hundred posts. This guy only comes here when he wants to read an insiders article.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:37am #687374
Jay0_oThaDudeParticipantI’ll start posting more just didn’t think it was a big deal . I’m just a basketball fan that likes to know what going on .
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:43am #687380

HaleParticipantWith the 2012 NBA draft three days away, it’s time to take our first full look at both rounds. While teams continue to narrow their draft lists, trade talk and last-minute workouts have plenty of things still up in the air. Here’s our best stab, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, at how the draft will play out on June 28.
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS 

New Orleans

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 222 pounds
Age: 19
School: KentuckyAnalysis: The Hornets’ big trade with the Wizards last week put their blueprint in sharp relief. This team is going young and will build around Davis. While they won’t be great next season, they’re building a rock-solid foundation. In addition to the No. 1 pick, they now have plenty of cap room to re-sign Eric Gordon and another significant free agent, plus the No. 10 pick.
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Charlotte

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 244 pounds
Age: 21
School: KansasAnalysis: Robinson is a bit of a placeholder right now. The Bobcats have had all the major players in for workouts, but are in the process of seeing if they’d be better off trading this pick. As we’ve reported the past three weeks, they’re looking for multiple young assets in return.
The most likely scenario has the Bobcats swapping the No. 2 pick with Cleveland for the No. 4 pick and either pick No. 24 or picks Nos. 33 and 34. Obviously the Bobcats would prefer the 24th pick, but the Cavs would prefer to hold on to it. While the Cavs aren’t the only team that’s in play for the pick, they have the most realistic scenario right now and would likely take Bradley Beal at No. 2. But if the Bobcats keep the pick, it sounds like Robinson has a slight edge here.
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Washington

Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 202 pounds
Age: 18
School: FloridaAnalysis: The Wizards made the first big trade of the offseason, sending Rashard Lewis and the 46th pick to New Orleans for Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza. With the deal, the Wizards essentially upgraded their front court — Okafor will likely be their starting 5, Nene their starting 4 and Ariza their starting 3.
With John Wall running the point, that leaves them with one big hole at the 2. I think this makes Bradley Beal a no-brainer for the Wizards, who are lacking a lights-out perimeter shooter. He’s a perfect fit for this new roster. And if the Wizards believe they are in danger of losing Beal, don’t be surprised if they offer the Bobcats the No. 32 pick to move up one spot. If Beal is off the board, it looks like Harrison Barnes is plan B.
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Cleveland

Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 228 pounds
Age: 20
School: North CarolinaAnalysis: Ideally, the Cavs would like to move up to the No. 2 spot to grab Beal. But the price is high and they may decide to settle at No. 4. If they do, they have a tough choice between Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Harrison Barnes.
Over the past few days, it appears Barnes has moved ahead of Kidd-Gilchrist on the Cavs’ board. The team needs shooters and feels like he’s further along. They love Kidd-Gilchrist too, but it sounds like he’s become a tougher sell thanks to his limited offensive repertoire.
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Sacramento

Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 233 pounds
Age: 18
School: KentuckyAnalysis: In a lot of ways, if Kidd-Gilchrist falls here, it’s a godsend for Sacramento. The Kings are loaded with players who want to jack up 20 shots a game. Kidd-Gilchrist is the only guy in this range that can dramatically impact the game without the ball in his hands. He’s also a high-character player who will add toughness and a winning attitude to the locker room.
The Kings have also explored trading down in the draft (the Rockets seem to be the team with the most interest) and could look to add players such as John Henson (whom they’ve been high on all year) and Moe Harkless (who works out for them on Monday) if they swap No. 5 for Houston’s Nos. 14 and 16.
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Portland (via Nets)

Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 189 pounds
Age: 21
School: Weber StateAnalysis: The Blazers need a point guard and a big man. They’ll have to make a very tough choice here between Lillard and Andre Drummond. Lillard is a steady, athletic guard who can shoot the lights out and get to the rim. Drummond is a super athletic big man who can block shots. While teams usually opt for size, the fact that Drummond is two to three years away might tip the scale toward Lillard. The Blazers, remember, aren’t rebuilding, they’re retooling. Dion Waiters is the sleeper pick here.
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Golden State

Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 279 pounds
Age: 18
School: UConnAnalysis: The Warriors are desperate to add an athletic big to their front line. So Drummond should be a no-brainer, right? Wrong. The front office and ownership also love players with a great motor, which Drummond lacks. But while he’s not an ideal fit, I don’t think the Warriors will be able to pass on Drummond if he slides this far. If they do pass on him, however, Dion Waiters and Tyler Zeller are in the mix.
The dark-horse pick is Washington’s Terrence Ross. Jerry West is a big fan and was the mastermind behind last year’s Klay Thompson pick. Ross isn’t a perfect fit either, but the Warriors will focus on collecting assets at this point.
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Toronto

Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 221 pounds
Age: 20
School: SyracuseAnalysis: I don’t believe the Raptors promised to pick Waiters at No. 8; most signs point to the Suns making him that promise at No. 13. However, Toronto is the only team that has worked him out and really needs a guard who can get to the basket at will.
Jeremy Lamb and Austin Rivers are also possibilities here, but from everything I can gather, Waiters is in the lead.
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Detroit

Position: C
Height: 7-foot-1
Weight: 250 pounds
Age: 20
School: IllinoisAnalysis: The Pistons had a huge workout scheduled for Monday with Leonard, Tyler Zeller, Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, John Henson and Jared Sullinger. Going into the workout, it looked like Leonard and Henson had a slight edge over the rest of the group.
The Pistons really want to move Greg Monroe back over to the 4 and need a big, physical center to guard the paint. Leonard could be that guy. However, the team also sees Henson, with his elite shot-blocking ability, as a potential fit, and he could very well be the guy.
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New Orleans
(via Wolves)
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 203 pounds
Age: 19
School: DukeAnalysis: After the first nine picks, things start to break down a little bit. The Hornets can go in a lot of directions and are also exploring trades. Sources say they offered the Rockets the 10th pick for Nos. 14 and 16 but were turned down last week.
If they keep the pick, they really need help at center, point guard and small forward. While Rivers doesn’t fill any of those positions, I’m told the Hornets have been enamored with him. Tyler Zeller, Jeremy Lamb and Moe Harkless are other possibilities here.
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS 

Portland

Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 247 pounds
Age: 22
School: North CarolinaAnalysis: If the Blazers go with a guard at No. 6, don’t be surprised if they go big with their other selection. Zeller isn’t a sexy pick, but he is capable of playing right now, has solid size for his position and runs the floor well. Other possibilities here include Dion Waiters, Austin Rivers, Jeremy Lamb and Terrence Ross.
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Milwaukee

Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 197 pounds
Age: 21
School: WashingtonAnalysis: The Bucks really need a center, but with the top three big men off the board, I think they’ll decide to reverse gears and fill a need in their backcourt. The Bucks are devoid of shooters and Ross has a very pretty stroke and good size for his position. Lamb and Harkless are other possibilities here.
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Phoenix

Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 179 pounds
Age: 20
School: UConnAnalysis: Lamb suffered a high ankle sprain in a workout in Toronto and has struggled to get well enough again to resume workouts. While GMs think he’s talented, they have questioned his toughness. His inability to work out has hurt him a bit, too.
However, Lamb went into Phoenix over the weekend and toughed out a workout on the bad ankle. A source in Phoenix told me they were actually impressed with his toughness and willingness to fight through the workout. His performance there could keep him in the lottery. If Lamb is gone, Terrence Ross, Dion Waiters and Austin Rivers are all possibilities here. So is Arnett Moultrie.
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Houston

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 216 pounds
Age: 21
School: North CarolinaAnalysis: The Rockets have to be disappointed that all of the top wings and top centers are off the board at No. 14. They’ve been very active in trade calls and are looking at everything from moving up into the top five (I believe Andre Drummond is their target) to moving out of the draft.
The name of the game for Houston now is all about collecting assets. Henson is both a terrific shot-blocker and rebounder. He lacks strength, but he’s rangy. If he bulks up, he could be a force in the paint down the road.
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Philadelphia

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 234 pounds
Age: 20
School: BaylorAnalysis: Jones may be the toughest player in the draft to project right now. Everyone is both scared to take him and scared not to take him. I heard the same assessment from a number of NBA GMs over the past few weeks.
Whichever GM overcomes his fear first gets a 6-foot-11 super athletic forward who lacks the motor or toughness that teams usually look for in a big man. At some point the reward outweighs the risk and that calculation probably starts here. Terrence Ross, Arnett Moultrie, Moe Harkless and Jared Sullinger are other possibilities here.
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Houston (via Knicks)

Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 207 pounds
Age: 19
School: St. John’sAnalysis: The Rockets are looking for assets as they try to package players to facilitate a trade. Adding Harkless to their stock of young players may be a smart move. Lots of teams have shown interest in him. He is athletic, has great upside and can defend multiple positions. He’s sort of a young Trevor Ariza.
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Dallas

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 252 pounds
Age: 20
School: KentuckyAnalysis: Rejoice, Mavs fans. After weeks and weeks of having Kendall Marshall going No. 17 to the Mavs, we have a new name for you. While I still believe the Mavs really like Marshall, it would be tough to pass on Jones here. His versatility, rebounding and shot-blocking would all be welcome in Big D. The Mavs are another team that has been actively exploring moving up in the draft the past few days.
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Wolves (via Jazz)

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 223 pounds
Age: 21
School: Mississippi StateAnalysis: The Wolves are really hoping that a sweet-shooting 2-guard falls to them here. Alas, it looks like they’ll all be taken in the lottery. That leaves them with three options: (1) They can go with an athletic big man, such as Moultrie, Fab Melo or a real dark horse like Miles Plumlee; (2) they can reach for the next best 2-guard, Will Barton; (3) they could try to use forward Derrick Williams as trade bait to move up in the draft.
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS 

Orlando

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 268 pounds
Age: 20
School: Ohio StateAnalysis: I’m not sure when the bleeding will end for Sullinger, whose stock is falling now that concerns about his back have every GM in the league a bit skittish. However, sources say the Suns and Sixers are still considering him in the mid-first round.
The Magic could also use a real low-post scorer. Sullinger is the top talent left on the board and a player who could come in and immediately contribute.
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Denver

Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 198 pounds
Age: 20
School: North CarolinaAnalysis: Andre Miller’s contract is up with the Nuggets this summer and, in most every way, Marshall is the perfect replacement. They have similar builds and games. While Ty Lawson is the clear starter in Denver, the Nuggets could really use depth at the position. Royce White and Andrew Nicholson are both options here as well.
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Boston

Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 261 pounds
Age: 21
School: Iowa StateAnalysis: According to sources, White pulled out of all his remaining workouts Thursday and has gone silent. He’s not injured, and sources claim he’s received a coveted first-round promise from a team. Promises are notoriously hard to pin down, but two sources are pointing in the direction of the Celtics.
As long as coach Doc Rivers can buy into what White is (a ballhandling power forward) and figure out how to play him, he could be a steal at this point in the draft.
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Boston (via Clippers)

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 234 pounds
Age: 22
School: St. BonaventureAnalysis: Nicholson is another draft sleeper who might really rise with workouts. He’s a big stretch 4 who has drawn some comparisons to David West. He would be another welcome addition to the Celtics’ summer makeover.
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Atlanta

Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 203 pounds
Age: 18
School: WashingtonAnalysis: The Hawks don’t have any depth behind point guard Jeff Teague. Sources say that over the past few weeks they’ve become enamored with Wroten. His shot is broken and he can be wild, but he has enormous upside as a big point guard who can see the floor and get to the basket.
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS 

Cavs (via Lakers)

Position: C
Height: 7-foot
Weight: 255 pounds
Age: 22
School: SyracuseAnalysis: If the Cavs go small with their first pick, Melo could be a nice get with No. 24. He’s big and athletic and he could end up being a terrific shot-blocker. The fact that they have fellow Brazilian Anderson Varejao to mentor him is a bonus.
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Memphis

Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-2
Weight: 180 pounds
Age: 19
School: KentuckyAnalysis: The Grizzlies lack great depth at the point guard position behind Mike Conley (unless you’re the guy who somehow voted Josh Selby to the all-rookie third team). Teague, had he stayed in school another year, would’ve been a likely top-10 pick in 2013. For a team like the Grizzlies, they can’t afford to pass on his talent here.
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Indiana

Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 236 pounds
Age: 22
School: Michigan StateAnalysis: The Pacers have a big workout scheduled for Tuesday with Green, Will Barton, Kim English and Jeff Taylor which could decide the No. 26 pick. I’m hearing increasingly that the Pacers are very high on Green. He’s a smart, tough player who can come in and fill a need immediately for Indiana. Larry Bird has made similar picks in years past and done OK with them. I don’t think Green slides past here. If he’s off the board, Barton could be the guy.
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Miami

Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 212 pounds
Age: 23
School: VanderbiltAnalysis: The Heat could use Taylor’s elite athletic ability, lockdown defense and spot-up shooting. He can’t create his own shot, but no one will ask him to in Miami, making this the perfect spot for him to land.
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Oklahoma City

Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 206 pounds
Age: 19
Country: FranceAnalysis: Fournier is the type of player that the Thunder can easily stash for a year or two in Europe. Or, given the high level he has played at in France, he might be able to come in and get minutes for them right away — especially if the Thunder decide they can’t afford to re-sign James Harden this summer.
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Chicago

Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 174 pounds
Age: 21
School: MemphisAnalysis:The Bulls are looking at a number of 2-guard options here, but over the past few weeks, Barton has separated himself from the pack. He could go as high as 18 to the Wolves and I don’t think he slides past Chicago here.
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS 

Golden State
(via Spurs)
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 219 pounds
Age: 19
School: BaylorAnalysis: There are a lot of concerns about his knee and what position he’ll play in the NBA. But his upside is so high that it might be worth taking a gamble this low in the first round. There’s very little risk and a lot of potential reward here.
Guys chill, it’s not that big of a deal. It literally requires 5 seconds of time to do and if you guys won’t, then I will. If he’s taking advantage of the system, props to him.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:43am #687381
F_Swell, he is helping by asking a new for it… in a way, he lets us know there is a new chad mock. i didn’t know there was another out, i would like to see it , this thread provides me with both…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:59am #687394
F_Si wasn’t gonna anything but whatever, drummond is not going 7, this guy is a jokester.
even though there are some similar picks to my mock
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:20am #687408

NbanflguyParticipantFord has the wolves going with a PF in round 1 and 2. Just what we need! We are going to have so much pf depth! Can never have too many.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:29am #687411

providencefriars1ParticipantDoron Lamb at 43 is ridiculous IMO also I could easily see Green falling past 26. I guess Ford doesnt buy the Kevin Jones promise either, he has him at 60.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:35am #687415

Cavaliers420ParticipantIf the Cavaliers get Barnes at #4 and go for Fab Melo at #24 I will be upset. I think addressing the backcourt is a major issue in this draft so a SG should be among top priorties. (Not saying the Cavaliers don’t need size because trust me Andy isn’t much alone, just saying we have more picks.)
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:02am #687449

PlatypusParticipantMoultrie can play the 4 and the 5 and there isnt a good shooting guard for them to take in that position.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:09am #687452
joecheck88ParticipantI think I also have the same players in my mock for Cavs. I have no problem getting the athletic big man late in the first round. Barnes is a wing player and with Melo you get a big defensive big to learn from Andy. Plus, there are good 2 guard prospects at 33 and 34 for the Cavs. I believe I have Cunningham there and another SG there for depth. Cavs are set up nicely in this deep draft.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:14am #687453

ASAP HenryParticipantas a bulls fan i would be on cloud 9 if we took Will Barton. People forget he was one of the top 10 players in his high school class and has produced from the minute he stepped on the floor at Memphis. Call me crazy but i see a lot of Latrell Sprewell in Will Barton. Bulls need to take him if he’s there, but if he isn’t then they should really consider Doron Lamb imo
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:24am #687461

IndianaBasketballParticipantAs a Pacers fan, I’d be upset if both Melo and Teague were off of the board before we pick.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:30am #687466
khaled_a_dParticipantMavs want to move up? can’t believe it but hope so
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:58am #687503

Sewok15ParticipantSixers please take PJ3. I would be scared not to take him if I am a team outside of the lottery
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 10:51am #687543
AstroParticipantHe was overrated entering college and he’s overrated entering the NBA.
I still think Wizards should get K-G who will turn out to be a better value, but whatever. I have a somewhat better feeling about Beal, but if they take Barnes I will laugh at them for years.
Again – neither Beal nor Barnes are great in isolations because their ballhandling is mediocre. So they are not going to be first option guys. May as well get a guy who’s more explosive and a monster handling in the open court.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 11:41am #687576
AKOOParticipantBiedrins, Bogut, and Drummond makes no sense unless someone is getting traded.Chad Ford is just stupid at times
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 12:00pm #687593
PulseGlazerParticipantI can really see the Warriors taking Zeller. West loves him and has a hell of a history with draft picks. Biedrins is done, Akoo, and Zeller can back up both frontcourt positions while adding some insurance incase Bogut is hurt, as he often is.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2012 - 5:11pm #687790

Ghost01ParticipantYou don’t get to see insider!!! YOu dont post on here enough!!!!!
lmao…losers.
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