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  • #63647
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    OhCanada-
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     Which combination of players would you select out of Dunn, J. Murray, Hield, Brown or other. Would you put Dunn with Hield? Murray with Brown? Etc.

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  • #1060632
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     If 76ers get the 3rd and 4th, I think the best is trade down (someone would like to pick 3rd and take Dragan Bender) and select Murray and Hield. Murray, Hield, Okafor, Noel, Embiid, Saric, Ish Smith…good corr of young players. If they sign any "almost star" SF free agent…

     

    Maybe I get negged for this comment, but it’s my opinion. 

     

     

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  • #1060509
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     If 76ers get the 3rd and 4th, I think the best is trade down (someone would like to pick 3rd and take Dragan Bender) and select Murray and Hield. Murray, Hield, Okafor, Noel, Embiid, Saric, Ish Smith…good corr of young players. If they sign any "almost star" SF free agent…

     

    Maybe I get negged for this comment, but it’s my opinion. 

     

     

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    • #1060678
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       Getting the two guards who can score would be huge. I would take the same guys too. Murray and Hield. Let them start lighting it up. 

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    • #1060800
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       Getting the two guards who can score would be huge. I would take the same guys too. Murray and Hield. Let them start lighting it up. 

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  • #1060634
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     Without knowing enough about Bender, I’d say Dunn and Murray would be my choices. Think they are the next two best players in the draft and that would give Philly guards…which they need a lot of. 

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  • #1060511
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     Without knowing enough about Bender, I’d say Dunn and Murray would be my choices. Think they are the next two best players in the draft and that would give Philly guards…which they need a lot of. 

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  • #1060636
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    that simple murray is low risk high reward and brown is high risk high reward…you get two dynamic wing players and the opportunity to round out your roster with some real young talent. Myurray complements brown, he can shoot and spread the floor which gives brown room to operate and they can play off each other.

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    that simple murray is low risk high reward and brown is high risk high reward…you get two dynamic wing players and the opportunity to round out your roster with some real young talent. Myurray complements brown, he can shoot and spread the floor which gives brown room to operate and they can play off each other.

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  • #1060643
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     Hield and Dunn. Your back court is finally set for the future. At least these two are more experiencd aswell. They just need to sort out the Okafor/Noel /Embiid problem. Assuming they are fit who gets traded? and who should they target? 

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  • #1060521
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     Hield and Dunn. Your back court is finally set for the future. At least these two are more experiencd aswell. They just need to sort out the Okafor/Noel /Embiid problem. Assuming they are fit who gets traded? and who should they target? 

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    • #1060701
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      Totally agree with you. Your backcourt will finally be set and the fact that they are upper classmen is a plus to me. Other guys may have slightly more upside but at least you have a better idea of exactly what you are going to get with these two.

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    • #1060824
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      Totally agree with you. Your backcourt will finally be set and the fact that they are upper classmen is a plus to me. Other guys may have slightly more upside but at least you have a better idea of exactly what you are going to get with these two.

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  • #1060649
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     & they also have 2 First round picks in each of the next 3 Drafts after this one (2017, 18 & 19)…….

     Next year looks very deep at Hig Caliber PG’s….. So for that reason I would stay away from Dunn……. I like his talent……. but he’s got a really bad injury history missing parts of 2 seasons & he really struggles w/ his shot……..

    I would Def take Jamal Murray w/ one of those picks…… & I like negguary’s Jaylan Brown pick…… However, I would give Bender a thorough look…… I’ve been reading all year that scouts in Europe who have seen him play absolutrly LUV him…….

    a 7 footer who can consistently shoot from 3 might be too good to pass up…… I realize the Sixers have Saric at 6’10” – Noel & Okafor at 6’11” & the Monster Embiid at 7’2” ….. but a guy who can shoot at that size (if he’s legit)…….They can load up on guards the next few years with All those 1st round picks…….

     

     

     

     

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  • #1060527
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     & they also have 2 First round picks in each of the next 3 Drafts after this one (2017, 18 & 19)…….

     Next year looks very deep at Hig Caliber PG’s….. So for that reason I would stay away from Dunn……. I like his talent……. but he’s got a really bad injury history missing parts of 2 seasons & he really struggles w/ his shot……..

    I would Def take Jamal Murray w/ one of those picks…… & I like negguary’s Jaylan Brown pick…… However, I would give Bender a thorough look…… I’ve been reading all year that scouts in Europe who have seen him play absolutrly LUV him…….

    a 7 footer who can consistently shoot from 3 might be too good to pass up…… I realize the Sixers have Saric at 6’10” – Noel & Okafor at 6’11” & the Monster Embiid at 7’2” ….. but a guy who can shoot at that size (if he’s legit)…….They can load up on guards the next few years with All those 1st round picks…….

     

     

     

     

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    • #1060665
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       If the 76ers get the Lakers pick in this draft they’ll only have one first round pick next year. They might have two first rounders in 2018 depending on where the Kings pick falls, but that’s not a certainty.

       I do agree the 76ers should be cautious because of Kris Dunn’s medical history, but if he checks out and they have the 3rd and 4th pick selecting him would make sense. Although I could certainly see them being high on some little known point guard later in the draft that could result in the 76ers passing on Dunn, medical history or not.

       

       

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    • #1060543
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       If the 76ers get the Lakers pick in this draft they’ll only have one first round pick next year. They might have two first rounders in 2018 depending on where the Kings pick falls, but that’s not a certainty.

       I do agree the 76ers should be cautious because of Kris Dunn’s medical history, but if he checks out and they have the 3rd and 4th pick selecting him would make sense. Although I could certainly see them being high on some little known point guard later in the draft that could result in the 76ers passing on Dunn, medical history or not.

       

       

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  • #1060663
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    Personally I’d currently lean for the 76ers to take Kris Dunn and Jamal Murray right now if they finish 3rd and 4th in the draft lottery. I think they are the most versatile. Murray is pretty impressive right now and he’s only 19. As long as the 76ers don’t draft two guys in the lottery at the same position or a big guy without trading one or more of the ones they currently have I’ll be content.

    The 76ers badly need to strengthen their backcourt seeing as their best point guard is a career journeyman, who has looked good, in Ish Smith and the remaining guards are end of the bench players at best.

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  • #1060541
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    Personally I’d currently lean for the 76ers to take Kris Dunn and Jamal Murray right now if they finish 3rd and 4th in the draft lottery. I think they are the most versatile. Murray is pretty impressive right now and he’s only 19. As long as the 76ers don’t draft two guys in the lottery at the same position or a big guy without trading one or more of the ones they currently have I’ll be content.

    The 76ers badly need to strengthen their backcourt seeing as their best point guard is a career journeyman, who has looked good, in Ish Smith and the remaining guards are end of the bench players at best.

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  • #1060669
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    If they took Murray and Buddy they would have one of the best shooting back courts in the league right away. Take the best PG next year and they would be set 

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  • #1060548
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    If they took Murray and Buddy they would have one of the best shooting back courts in the league right away. Take the best PG next year and they would be set 

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    • #1060698
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       Completely agree. 

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       Completely agree. 

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  • #1060675
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    Personally I would pick Murray and Brown because those guys can play multiple positions. Dunn can too but his injury history scares me and he is 22. Hield projects as a player that can only gaurd SG’s and is also 22. With the late 1st round picks they can target Ulis, Barber, Jackson, Baldwin or another gaurd and a guy like Prince or Lawson to round out the roster.

     

     

     

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  • #1060553
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    Personally I would pick Murray and Brown because those guys can play multiple positions. Dunn can too but his injury history scares me and he is 22. Hield projects as a player that can only gaurd SG’s and is also 22. With the late 1st round picks they can target Ulis, Barber, Jackson, Baldwin or another gaurd and a guy like Prince or Lawson to round out the roster.

     

     

     

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  • #1060696
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     Philly have needs in the backcourt and at SF so could address a number of these here. I would definitely take Hield, he is the highest listed player on most mocks they would consider under this scenario. He is already 22 years old so should be fairly NBA ready, his shooting would spread the floor more too.

    The other pick would probably be a toss up between Dunn and Murray, Dunn is more NBA ready, has nice size for a PG but Murray may have more upside and with Hield being a decent ball handler and good leader then taking Murray gives you a nice balance to the picks.

    Jaylen Brown is also an option if you want someone to play at SF and share that role with Saric. Brown could play around Hield too.

    If they did get both 3rd and 4th picks then trading down with one could be an option but if Hield was their main target it might have to be 4th pick they trade down to ensure they get him and take him 3. Or they maybe draft Bender at 3 and then trade him and take Hield at 4.

    If they did put Bender into play then T-Wolves or NOP may be interested or even Denver who have a lot of picks and could do a deal.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1060574
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     Philly have needs in the backcourt and at SF so could address a number of these here. I would definitely take Hield, he is the highest listed player on most mocks they would consider under this scenario. He is already 22 years old so should be fairly NBA ready, his shooting would spread the floor more too.

    The other pick would probably be a toss up between Dunn and Murray, Dunn is more NBA ready, has nice size for a PG but Murray may have more upside and with Hield being a decent ball handler and good leader then taking Murray gives you a nice balance to the picks.

    Jaylen Brown is also an option if you want someone to play at SF and share that role with Saric. Brown could play around Hield too.

    If they did get both 3rd and 4th picks then trading down with one could be an option but if Hield was their main target it might have to be 4th pick they trade down to ensure they get him and take him 3. Or they maybe draft Bender at 3 and then trade him and take Hield at 4.

    If they did put Bender into play then T-Wolves or NOP may be interested or even Denver who have a lot of picks and could do a deal.

     

     

     

     

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    • #1060674
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       I’m not sure NOP would be interested.  They are trying to keep Davis from playing the 5.  Adding Bender would only assure the necessity that Davis play center.

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    • #1060796
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       I’m not sure NOP would be interested.  They are trying to keep Davis from playing the 5.  Adding Bender would only assure the necessity that Davis play center.

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    • #1060697
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       The 76ers are better at small forward than they are at point guard and shooting guard. Robert Covington and Jerami Grant are solid at small forward so they’d be smarter to address their needs at the guard spots if they fall to the 3rd and 4th picks in this draft. All that being said they absolutely have to take Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram if they have the chance. Always go for spectacular over solid.

      I worry about Jaylen Brown’s basketball IQ so I’d be as wary of that as I am about an injury. I’ve seen too many high potential low basketball IQ guys flame out quickly to want to the 76ers to draft one 3rd or 4th.

       

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    • #1060820
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       The 76ers are better at small forward than they are at point guard and shooting guard. Robert Covington and Jerami Grant are solid at small forward so they’d be smarter to address their needs at the guard spots if they fall to the 3rd and 4th picks in this draft. All that being said they absolutely have to take Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram if they have the chance. Always go for spectacular over solid.

      I worry about Jaylen Brown’s basketball IQ so I’d be as wary of that as I am about an injury. I’ve seen too many high potential low basketball IQ guys flame out quickly to want to the 76ers to draft one 3rd or 4th.

       

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  • #1060708
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    Murray will be the best guard in this draft. They’d have to take him. 

    That leaves holes in the backcourt and the wing….and at pick #4 I just don’t feel like Jaylen Brown will reward that kind of investment.

     

    So I’m going to go with Kris Dunn, who offers nice versatility at the backcourt position when combined with Murray. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1060586
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    Murray will be the best guard in this draft. They’d have to take him. 

    That leaves holes in the backcourt and the wing….and at pick #4 I just don’t feel like Jaylen Brown will reward that kind of investment.

     

    So I’m going to go with Kris Dunn, who offers nice versatility at the backcourt position when combined with Murray. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1060627
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     But then I’d compose myself and select Bender 3rd and Murray 4th, I’d then wait to see who wants 1 of my 5 Bigmen (Okafor, Noel, Embiid, Saric and Bender) I want a young G to pair up with Murray, I may not want to trade any of them unless I feel like I’m getting back a potential All Star

    Throw the Max at Barnes and see if he bites, try to land Parsons if he opts out…If we miss out, there’s always next year…

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1060749
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     But then I’d compose myself and select Bender 3rd and Murray 4th, I’d then wait to see who wants 1 of my 5 Bigmen (Okafor, Noel, Embiid, Saric and Bender) I want a young G to pair up with Murray, I may not want to trade any of them unless I feel like I’m getting back a potential All Star

    Throw the Max at Barnes and see if he bites, try to land Parsons if he opts out…If we miss out, there’s always next year…

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1060656
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     The real question for me: if you end up with #3 and #4…is that enough to trade up? Who says no if they offer the pair for #1 or #2? There’s such a premium on a top 2 pick that I think philly wouldn’t get much else – maybe a top 20 protected pick…

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    • #1060658
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      Good question. Ive got Murray only a shade below Ingram on my Big Board so I’d make that trade for sure.

      Nothing short of Kawhi Leanord or Karl Anthony Towns would convince me to part with Ben Simmons though.

       

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    • #1060780
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      Good question. Ive got Murray only a shade below Ingram on my Big Board so I’d make that trade for sure.

      Nothing short of Kawhi Leanord or Karl Anthony Towns would convince me to part with Ben Simmons though.

       

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  • #1060778
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     The real question for me: if you end up with #3 and #4…is that enough to trade up? Who says no if they offer the pair for #1 or #2? There’s such a premium on a top 2 pick that I think philly wouldn’t get much else – maybe a top 20 protected pick…

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  • #1060672
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     If I’m Philly I use the 3 on Murray and trade down with a team like Chicago and take his backcourt mate at Kentucky, Ulis.  

    Ulis is a player that has a bulldog mentality and doesn’t care about accolades.  Murray is going to end up being the best shooter/scorer in this draft.  

    Again, thats my opinion.  These two are already used to playing with each other so the transition should be relatively smooth.  It will take a few years before they can compete, but with the youth on the roster, this could be a good backcourt for years to come.

     

     

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    • #1060676
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      Ulis maybe available late in the 1st and if I’m Philly I wouldn’t trade down to grab him if anything I would use my two late 1sts and infinite 2nd rounders to try and move up to get him or just stay put and hope he lands there.

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      • #1060986
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         No way that Ulis makes it past a team like Detroit at 18. They need a backup PG in the worst way. Chicago at 14 and Memphis at 17 may be interested as well. If Ulis is gone for Detroit they will probably go after Demetrius Jackson. So Philadelphia may get stuck choosing between Barber and Baldwin if they wait for a PG late.

         

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      • #1060863
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         No way that Ulis makes it past a team like Detroit at 18. They need a backup PG in the worst way. Chicago at 14 and Memphis at 17 may be interested as well. If Ulis is gone for Detroit they will probably go after Demetrius Jackson. So Philadelphia may get stuck choosing between Barber and Baldwin if they wait for a PG late.

         

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    • #1060798
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      Ulis maybe available late in the 1st and if I’m Philly I wouldn’t trade down to grab him if anything I would use my two late 1sts and infinite 2nd rounders to try and move up to get him or just stay put and hope he lands there.

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     If I’m Philly I use the 3 on Murray and trade down with a team like Chicago and take his backcourt mate at Kentucky, Ulis.  

    Ulis is a player that has a bulldog mentality and doesn’t care about accolades.  Murray is going to end up being the best shooter/scorer in this draft.  

    Again, thats my opinion.  These two are already used to playing with each other so the transition should be relatively smooth.  It will take a few years before they can compete, but with the youth on the roster, this could be a good backcourt for years to come.

     

     

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  • #1060884
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    I would like to deal both picks or one of them and Okafor for No. 1 to take Simmons. That’s why we have all these assets.

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  • #1060762
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    I would like to deal both picks or one of them and Okafor for No. 1 to take Simmons. That’s why we have all these assets.

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    • #1060871
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      Is way too much for Simmons…we at least have an idea of what OKafor is an at the least we know he can give you 20 a night and potentially 10 rebs. We have no idea what Simmons will be a pro….TOO MUCH! okafor is a beast.

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      • #1060879
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         I’d just draft the Best 2 Perimeter players available and just go after a few SF’s in free agency(Barnes, Batum, Harkless or Parsons)

        Jahlil Okafor and Bender or Murray for Simmons is far too much IMO…

        I’d rather just draft Murray and trade Bender for a G (I would love to land Booker or Hezonja, but they may be out of play)

          

         

         

          

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      • #1061002
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         I’d just draft the Best 2 Perimeter players available and just go after a few SF’s in free agency(Barnes, Batum, Harkless or Parsons)

        Jahlil Okafor and Bender or Murray for Simmons is far too much IMO…

        I’d rather just draft Murray and trade Bender for a G (I would love to land Booker or Hezonja, but they may be out of play)

          

         

         

          

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    • #1060994
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      Is way too much for Simmons…we at least have an idea of what OKafor is an at the least we know he can give you 20 a night and potentially 10 rebs. We have no idea what Simmons will be a pro….TOO MUCH! okafor is a beast.

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  • #1060886
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    I’m not a big fan of Jaylen Brown. He’s looked awful the last month of the season and does so may dumb basketball things. I would lean toward taking Murray at 3 and Hield at 4. You need guys that can shoot and we have one (Covington). We could always sign a SF (I like Harrison Barnes and wouldn’t be dissapointed with Batum). Then you have a line up of Murray, Hield, Barnes/Batum, Noel/Saric, Embiid. Then you just have to figure out what to do with Okafor and Grant. I think that’s a pretty solid core.

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  • #1060764
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    I’m not a big fan of Jaylen Brown. He’s looked awful the last month of the season and does so may dumb basketball things. I would lean toward taking Murray at 3 and Hield at 4. You need guys that can shoot and we have one (Covington). We could always sign a SF (I like Harrison Barnes and wouldn’t be dissapointed with Batum). Then you have a line up of Murray, Hield, Barnes/Batum, Noel/Saric, Embiid. Then you just have to figure out what to do with Okafor and Grant. I think that’s a pretty solid core.

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    • #1060920
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       Interesting that you said that you’d have to figure out what to do with Okafor and Grant. Now, I don’t care about Grant really, but why would you have to figure out what to do with Okafor? My question is, would you prefer Okafor or Noel on the Sixers? If I were the Sixers I’d trade Noel for a backup PG and then have Okafor and Embiid start. But what would you do?

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    • #1060797
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       Interesting that you said that you’d have to figure out what to do with Okafor and Grant. Now, I don’t care about Grant really, but why would you have to figure out what to do with Okafor? My question is, would you prefer Okafor or Noel on the Sixers? If I were the Sixers I’d trade Noel for a backup PG and then have Okafor and Embiid start. But what would you do?

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      • #1060932
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        I wouldn’t trade Noel or Okafor until I was certain Joel Embiid is healthy and as good as advertised. If Embiid is healthy and good then trading Noel or Okafor makes a lot more sense because it will likely be difficult to any of them to play together. Nerlens Noel could potentially with work shift to power forward. He can guard a power forward easily and he could eventually learn to shoot a 20 ft jumper consistently on offense to compliment one of the other big guys. Okafor and Embiid will be worse on the court together than Okafor and Noel were because neither can defend a power forward, have no chance in hell against a stretch four, and their offensive games will just cause the other guy issues.

        Okafor likely has higher trade value and a bigger ego than Noel so if Embiid is the 76ers guy Okafor may be the player to move. I imagine Noel might be OK in a reserve role if it becomes clear he can’t be effective on the court with Okafor or Embiid. Plus with Bryan Colangelo at GM I imagine the 76ers will want to have a more fast paced offense which probably doesn’t favor Okafor.

         

         

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      • #1060809
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        I wouldn’t trade Noel or Okafor until I was certain Joel Embiid is healthy and as good as advertised. If Embiid is healthy and good then trading Noel or Okafor makes a lot more sense because it will likely be difficult to any of them to play together. Nerlens Noel could potentially with work shift to power forward. He can guard a power forward easily and he could eventually learn to shoot a 20 ft jumper consistently on offense to compliment one of the other big guys. Okafor and Embiid will be worse on the court together than Okafor and Noel were because neither can defend a power forward, have no chance in hell against a stretch four, and their offensive games will just cause the other guy issues.

        Okafor likely has higher trade value and a bigger ego than Noel so if Embiid is the 76ers guy Okafor may be the player to move. I imagine Noel might be OK in a reserve role if it becomes clear he can’t be effective on the court with Okafor or Embiid. Plus with Bryan Colangelo at GM I imagine the 76ers will want to have a more fast paced offense which probably doesn’t favor Okafor.

         

         

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  • #1060893
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     I would go with that great country western combo of Hield and Dunn.

    If they flame out of the NBA there is always the Grand Ole Opry!

     

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     I would go with that great country western combo of Hield and Dunn.

    If they flame out of the NBA there is always the Grand Ole Opry!

     

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