How Good Is: Donte Greene?

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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:18am #32746

surve
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Does anyone see a breakout season coming for him?
Can he be a Rashard Lewis? Clifford Robinson?
What is holding him back?
Would a change of scenery be better?
Could Jimmer and Tyreke hinder his development as opposed to if he had a better TRUE PG to play with?

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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:34am #592919

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From what I saw of him in the documentary "Gunnin’ for that #1 Spot", Donte’s primary motivation is to be a bread-winner for his family, rather than a great basketball player. I don’t see that passion for the game in him, and I think with that mentality his ceiling is a role player off the bench, or at most a solid starter, despite his talent.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:34am #592949

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From what I saw of him in the documentary "Gunnin’ for that #1 Spot", Donte’s primary motivation is to be a bread-winner for his family, rather than a great basketball player. I don’t see that passion for the game in him, and I think with that mentality his ceiling is a role player off the bench, or at most a solid starter, despite his talent.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:34am #592480

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From what I saw of him in the documentary "Gunnin’ for that #1 Spot", Donte’s primary motivation is to be a bread-winner for his family, rather than a great basketball player. I don’t see that passion for the game in him, and I think with that mentality his ceiling is a role player off the bench, or at most a solid starter, despite his talent.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:55am #592969

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The potential is still there, he’s still raw. I think ballhandling ability is holding him back, the ability to create off the dribble could turn him into a matchup nightmare. He won’t get better in Sac-Town with shot oppurtunities already being ate up but Jimmer, Tyreke, Cousins, and Marcus Thornton. I personally think he needs a change of scenery.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:55am #593000

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The potential is still there, he’s still raw. I think ballhandling ability is holding him back, the ability to create off the dribble could turn him into a matchup nightmare. He won’t get better in Sac-Town with shot oppurtunities already being ate up but Jimmer, Tyreke, Cousins, and Marcus Thornton. I personally think he needs a change of scenery.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:55am #592531

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The potential is still there, he’s still raw. I think ballhandling ability is holding him back, the ability to create off the dribble could turn him into a matchup nightmare. He won’t get better in Sac-Town with shot oppurtunities already being ate up but Jimmer, Tyreke, Cousins, and Marcus Thornton. I personally think he needs a change of scenery.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:08am #592972

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We ask this question every year. lol. I think by now, he would have been better if was going to be good. The raw talent is there, I just do not think he has the attitude to get better.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:08am #593004

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We ask this question every year. lol. I think by now, he would have been better if was going to be good. The raw talent is there, I just do not think he has the attitude to get better.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:08am #592534

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We ask this question every year. lol. I think by now, he would have been better if was going to be good. The raw talent is there, I just do not think he has the attitude to get better.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:10am #592975

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Does anyone see a breakout season coming for him?
He’ll have to beat out Francisco Garcia for minutes, because right now he’s the fourth or fifth front court guy after Cousins, Hickson and Thompson. His and Thompson’s contracts run up at the same time, however, so a breakout year could come when the Kings choose between the two, or when he finds a new home.
Can he be a Rashard Lewis? Clifford Robinson?
He’s physically comparable but I don’t see it. Lewis is more reasonable because he was a more one-dimensional scorer, but I don’t know that Greene has developed as he should’ve in the pivotal first three years. By Lewis’s third year he was averaging 15 and 7, and Greene will be entering his 5th year as an 8th man on a bad team. While neither Lewis nor Robinson rebounded their size, Robinson was a more complete player, an excellent defender and the second best player on those great early 90s Blazers teams. I don’t see Greene ever reaching those heights.
What is holding him back?
The Kings wealth of other great young prospects. If he was on any team that’s relatively shallow OR has good vets to learn from OR simply doesn’t have as many young guys vying for playing time, he would be in a better situation. The Kings are much more concerned with the development of Evans Cousins, Hickson and Jimmer, and Marcus Thornton if they re-sign him. The Kings are also immature which is never good for a young guy like Greene who needs that guidance and some stability. IMO, he would be better off playing 8 minutes a night for the Celtics than he would playing 17 for the Kings.
Would a change of scenery be better?
Absolutely. Even a veteran team would be best, as he wouldn’t want to be buried behind more prospects that need seasoning. It wouldn’t matter if he didn’t start; he could be groomed as the eventual replacement for an aging vet or could hone his defensive instincts to maximize his potential on both ends of the floor.
Could Jimmer and Tyreke hinder his development as opposed to if he had a better TRUE PG to play with?
Sorry, but they will absolutely hinder his development. Both are very dynamic, ball-dominant scorers (though still with PG instincts). Cousins and Hickson could be the bigger impediments, as they’re similarly sized and are both ready to contribute AND have major upside. Then again, if Salmons shoots as poorly as he did last year, that could open up minutes at the 3. So the answer is yet, a true PG, a pass-first distributor would be ideal for him.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:10am #593007

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Does anyone see a breakout season coming for him?
He’ll have to beat out Francisco Garcia for minutes, because right now he’s the fourth or fifth front court guy after Cousins, Hickson and Thompson. His and Thompson’s contracts run up at the same time, however, so a breakout year could come when the Kings choose between the two, or when he finds a new home.
Can he be a Rashard Lewis? Clifford Robinson?
He’s physically comparable but I don’t see it. Lewis is more reasonable because he was a more one-dimensional scorer, but I don’t know that Greene has developed as he should’ve in the pivotal first three years. By Lewis’s third year he was averaging 15 and 7, and Greene will be entering his 5th year as an 8th man on a bad team. While neither Lewis nor Robinson rebounded their size, Robinson was a more complete player, an excellent defender and the second best player on those great early 90s Blazers teams. I don’t see Greene ever reaching those heights.
What is holding him back?
The Kings wealth of other great young prospects. If he was on any team that’s relatively shallow OR has good vets to learn from OR simply doesn’t have as many young guys vying for playing time, he would be in a better situation. The Kings are much more concerned with the development of Evans Cousins, Hickson and Jimmer, and Marcus Thornton if they re-sign him. The Kings are also immature which is never good for a young guy like Greene who needs that guidance and some stability. IMO, he would be better off playing 8 minutes a night for the Celtics than he would playing 17 for the Kings.
Would a change of scenery be better?
Absolutely. Even a veteran team would be best, as he wouldn’t want to be buried behind more prospects that need seasoning. It wouldn’t matter if he didn’t start; he could be groomed as the eventual replacement for an aging vet or could hone his defensive instincts to maximize his potential on both ends of the floor.
Could Jimmer and Tyreke hinder his development as opposed to if he had a better TRUE PG to play with?
Sorry, but they will absolutely hinder his development. Both are very dynamic, ball-dominant scorers (though still with PG instincts). Cousins and Hickson could be the bigger impediments, as they’re similarly sized and are both ready to contribute AND have major upside. Then again, if Salmons shoots as poorly as he did last year, that could open up minutes at the 3. So the answer is yet, a true PG, a pass-first distributor would be ideal for him.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:10am #592537

sammybuckeye13
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Does anyone see a breakout season coming for him?
He’ll have to beat out Francisco Garcia for minutes, because right now he’s the fourth or fifth front court guy after Cousins, Hickson and Thompson. His and Thompson’s contracts run up at the same time, however, so a breakout year could come when the Kings choose between the two, or when he finds a new home.
Can he be a Rashard Lewis? Clifford Robinson?
He’s physically comparable but I don’t see it. Lewis is more reasonable because he was a more one-dimensional scorer, but I don’t know that Greene has developed as he should’ve in the pivotal first three years. By Lewis’s third year he was averaging 15 and 7, and Greene will be entering his 5th year as an 8th man on a bad team. While neither Lewis nor Robinson rebounded their size, Robinson was a more complete player, an excellent defender and the second best player on those great early 90s Blazers teams. I don’t see Greene ever reaching those heights.
What is holding him back?
The Kings wealth of other great young prospects. If he was on any team that’s relatively shallow OR has good vets to learn from OR simply doesn’t have as many young guys vying for playing time, he would be in a better situation. The Kings are much more concerned with the development of Evans Cousins, Hickson and Jimmer, and Marcus Thornton if they re-sign him. The Kings are also immature which is never good for a young guy like Greene who needs that guidance and some stability. IMO, he would be better off playing 8 minutes a night for the Celtics than he would playing 17 for the Kings.
Would a change of scenery be better?
Absolutely. Even a veteran team would be best, as he wouldn’t want to be buried behind more prospects that need seasoning. It wouldn’t matter if he didn’t start; he could be groomed as the eventual replacement for an aging vet or could hone his defensive instincts to maximize his potential on both ends of the floor.
Could Jimmer and Tyreke hinder his development as opposed to if he had a better TRUE PG to play with?
Sorry, but they will absolutely hinder his development. Both are very dynamic, ball-dominant scorers (though still with PG instincts). Cousins and Hickson could be the bigger impediments, as they’re similarly sized and are both ready to contribute AND have major upside. Then again, if Salmons shoots as poorly as he did last year, that could open up minutes at the 3. So the answer is yet, a true PG, a pass-first distributor would be ideal for him.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:52am #593029

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He has probably had more of an opportunity is Sacramento than he would have had anywhere else. He simply isn’t good enough right now to be an NBAtotation player, but he has seen minutes nonetheless. I think people get too enamored with his physical gifts. He is long and athletic, but is a poor shooter who can’t create his own shot. He can finish in transition and is a very good man to man defender, but I don’t think he really has any other skills up to par with the average NBA player.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:52am #593060

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He has probably had more of an opportunity is Sacramento than he would have had anywhere else. He simply isn’t good enough right now to be an NBAtotation player, but he has seen minutes nonetheless. I think people get too enamored with his physical gifts. He is long and athletic, but is a poor shooter who can’t create his own shot. He can finish in transition and is a very good man to man defender, but I don’t think he really has any other skills up to par with the average NBA player.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:52am #592590

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He has probably had more of an opportunity is Sacramento than he would have had anywhere else. He simply isn’t good enough right now to be an NBAtotation player, but he has seen minutes nonetheless. I think people get too enamored with his physical gifts. He is long and athletic, but is a poor shooter who can’t create his own shot. He can finish in transition and is a very good man to man defender, but I don’t think he really has any other skills up to par with the average NBA player.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:56am #593033

Jlv2011
Does anyone see a breakout season coming for him?
The only thing he’s breaking out of is the roster.
What is holding him back?
Lack of talent and IQ for the game. Seems more focused for things off the court than on it.
Would a change of scenery be better?
Yes, the NBDL sounds good for him.
Could Jimmer and Tyreke hinder his development as opposed to if he had a better TRUE PG to play with?
Regardless of which team or players, the only thing hindering his development is Donte. The guy shoots 3-pointers yet he has an awful shooting percentage. Maybe don’t shoot anymore Donte?
How Good Is: Donte Greene?
Not very. He’s pretty bad.

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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:56am #593063

Jlv2011
Does anyone see a breakout season coming for him?
The only thing he’s breaking out of is the roster.
What is holding him back?
Lack of talent and IQ for the game. Seems more focused for things off the court than on it.
Would a change of scenery be better?
Yes, the NBDL sounds good for him.
Could Jimmer and Tyreke hinder his development as opposed to if he had a better TRUE PG to play with?
Regardless of which team or players, the only thing hindering his development is Donte. The guy shoots 3-pointers yet he has an awful shooting percentage. Maybe don’t shoot anymore Donte?
How Good Is: Donte Greene?
Not very. He’s pretty bad.

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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:56am #592593

Jlv2011
Does anyone see a breakout season coming for him?
The only thing he’s breaking out of is the roster.
What is holding him back?
Lack of talent and IQ for the game. Seems more focused for things off the court than on it.
Would a change of scenery be better?
Yes, the NBDL sounds good for him.
Could Jimmer and Tyreke hinder his development as opposed to if he had a better TRUE PG to play with?
Regardless of which team or players, the only thing hindering his development is Donte. The guy shoots 3-pointers yet he has an awful shooting percentage. Maybe don’t shoot anymore Donte?
How Good Is: Donte Greene?
Not very. He’s pretty bad.

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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 10:06am #592653

meisi4
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he has the body to be kevin durant but i don´t think he has the drive to develop into such a kind of player. i think he will be a nice option to throw in off the bench but not more…
plus i think his main interest is to score and SAC definatly does not need a scorer….
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 10:06am #593091

meisi4
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he has the body to be kevin durant but i don´t think he has the drive to develop into such a kind of player. i think he will be a nice option to throw in off the bench but not more…
plus i think his main interest is to score and SAC definatly does not need a scorer….
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 10:06am #593123

meisi4
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he has the body to be kevin durant but i don´t think he has the drive to develop into such a kind of player. i think he will be a nice option to throw in off the bench but not more…
plus i think his main interest is to score and SAC definatly does not need a scorer….
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 7:06pm #593245

SmooveKRYPT
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A change of scenery for him could do what it did for Dorrell Wright last yr.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 7:06pm #593276

SmooveKRYPT
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A change of scenery for him could do what it did for Dorrell Wright last yr.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 7:06pm #592805

SmooveKRYPT
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A change of scenery for him could do what it did for Dorrell Wright last yr.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:08pm #593248

ilike.panochas
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A change of scenery isn’t going to do anything for him. He has a bad work ethic and he has limited his game to just being a spot up 3 pointer. With his size and athletecism, he should be more than just that, but he just doesn’t know how to use his tools. Some players just doesn’t work out, even changing scenery, just look at Julian Wright.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:08pm #593279

ilike.panochas
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A change of scenery isn’t going to do anything for him. He has a bad work ethic and he has limited his game to just being a spot up 3 pointer. With his size and athletecism, he should be more than just that, but he just doesn’t know how to use his tools. Some players just doesn’t work out, even changing scenery, just look at Julian Wright.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:08pm #592808

ilike.panochas
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A change of scenery isn’t going to do anything for him. He has a bad work ethic and he has limited his game to just being a spot up 3 pointer. With his size and athletecism, he should be more than just that, but he just doesn’t know how to use his tools. Some players just doesn’t work out, even changing scenery, just look at Julian Wright.
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