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  • #25446
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    ilike.panochas
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    I dont often get to watch Rockets games, but it seems to me that their young core/players doesn’t seem to get a whole lot of minutes or opportunity. I highly doubt they make the playoffs this year (they are 4 games out of the #8 spot I believe). Here are the players I would like to see extended minutes.

    Chase Budinger – Seems like hes getting less minutes this year than his rookie season. He has tools to be a starting SF, he is being blocked by Battier, but I really want to see him start or atleast get +25min a game.

    Terrence Williams – They traded for this guy, yet they dont play him, AT ALL. Kevin Martin is occupying the SG spot, but Williams is versatile enought to play PG/SG/SF and he should be getting atleast +20 min a game.

    Jordan Hill – Another guy who should be getting more minutes. With Scola being slow footed I think its fitting that you put an athletic Forward next to him. Some how you have to know what you have in Hill, but he needs minutes to prove it.

    Patrick Patterson – He has been getting decent minutes lately, but was a non factor in the beginning. I didn’t really understand this pick for Houston because they have a similar player with Chuck Hayes, and I thought Larry Sanders was the perfect fit for them. But this is a player that should be getting more minutes considering where he was chosen (#14).

    Despite their franchise player having his career in jeopardy (Yao Ming), I think they have as good a young core as anyone in the league, but it seems as though they are not getting the opportunites they need to blossom. Maybe the team thinks it can still make the playoffs and are playing their veterans a whole lot more.

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  • #482102
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    BKKnicksfan
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    That core is pretty average to be honest.

    Budinger is pretty average is everything. He should be a solid role player. Hill is Hill. Many people KILLED NY for cutting the cord on him early, but he’s just a energy big. He helps a little on defense but not as much on offense. Terrance Williams has a bad additude and for all the "he’s a multi wing forward" look at his best game, they weren’t against good teams, they were generally against bad to average teams. Patrick Patterson is still a rookie and should be able to play the 3 and the 4. He could be a potential Milsap type once he gets it going.

     

    There core is not that good because they have no #1 or #2 on the roster. Scola and Martin are at best #3 on title teams. Aaron Brooks is also a #3 type guy.

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  • #482140
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    StF616
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     Chase Budinger – Has very good potential, but they have martin & battier already, he is playing the backup forward and backup 2 for the rockets but has been in a shooting slump ALL SEASON

    Jordan Hill – Is the backup center/power forward, has had 9 games where he started and had the chance to play more minutes, in these 9 games he had foul trouble, underproduced, and shot 40%. He played well with brad miller but brad has been out for a long time and in that time he has underproduced and is being outplayed by patterson.

    Patrick Patterson – Wasn’t in the rotation the beggining of the season and played in the d-league. The 4 and 5 spots was just too occupied for the rockets(Scola,Hayes,Ming,Hill,Jeffries,Miller) When chuck and miller had the went down with injuries he got the opportunity to play.In his 4th game against portland he had a 15 point 10 rebound game, followed by a 5 point 10 rebound game, he has been in the rotation since and has been taking jordan hills minutes.

    Terrence Williams – I dont know what the deal with him is or why the rockets traded for him, potential i guess, but since he plays the 2/3 spot Which is also played by Martin,Battier,Lee,Budinger,Lowry(when he and brooks play alongside each other). He is not getting alot of minutes.

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  • #482146
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    ilike.panochas
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    I find Budinger’s potential to be more than average. I liked this guy in Arizona and thought of him as having lottery talent. He has athleticism, good shooter and a smart basketball player. 18PPG at SF is what his ceiling is to me and he has a chance to be more than just average.

    By the way I find most of your opinion to be one of the dumbest in this forum. I just wanted to get that out there. Nothing personal tho.

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  • #482157
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    dragons12
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    many people killed them for trading hill? i was pissed when they drafted him and threw a part when they traded him?

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  • #482162
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    apb540
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    Wow, taking a quick shot at Knicksboy unprovoked.  Guess sometimes you just gotta get shit off your chest lol

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  • #482182
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    BKKnicksfan
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    By the way I find most of your opinion to be one of the dumbest in this forum. I just wanted to get that out there. Nothing personal tho.

    Your mad because I disagreed? That’s the problem with you guys. Just because I don’t hype things up, i get negatives. It’s cool I don’t get respect from you guys because I work hard and do have a basketball mind. I have dumb opinions, yet you thought Budinger was a 18ppg scorer at the next level,so who really has dumb opinion and thoughts?

    Anyway, once again: overrating young talent. Williams is good, but when he couldn’t get brought in by Avery Johnson (who’s a tough coach), you knew something was wrong there. He’s a headcase who has talent, but not enough to warrant him acting like that. There’s a reason only 3 teams really wanted him like that. Chase Budinger is average. He’s athletic, but slow on defense, which doesn’t garner much PT in Aldeman’s system. He can shoot the basketball and he’s smart, but he’s limited. At best, he’s a 7th-9th guy off the bench. I saw Jordan Hill play in New York and Houston, he’s a energy big man who can play both 4 and 5 spots but never should get 25mpg a night.

     

    Enough opinion for you or because I’m not agreeing with you….I’m still "dumb"?

     

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  • #482184
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    ilike.panochas
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    Im not mad, I just think your one of the biggest idiots in this forum. Like Stephen Curry going to the Lakers? Are you sober when you made that thread? Seriously bro, I think everyone in this forum would agree with me that you have some loose screws when it comes to expressing your opinion.

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  • #482186
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    BKKnicksfan
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    Im not mad, I just think your one of the biggest idiots in this forum. Like Stephen Curry going to the Lakers? Are you sober when you made that thread? Seriously bro, I think everyone in this forum would agree with me that you have some loose screws when it comes to expressing your opinion.

     

    First off, the post wasn’t "Stephen Curry going to the Lakers" so your wrong on that front. It was asking if Curry was a perfect fit for the Lakers because it was a upgrade at the point guard position and he’s a younger player.

    This is the same person saying those 4 rockets players make a solid core…… are you serious?

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  • #482189
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    BigD
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    I agree, these 4 rockets players do make a solid core.

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  • #482190
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    ilike.panochas
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    YES, Houston has a good solid young core, if you put a one franchise player on that team, they would be a contender. They were a contender with Yao Ming on the team.

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  • #482194
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    BKKnicksfan
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    YES, Houston has a good solid young core, if you put a one franchise player on that team, they would be a contender. They were a contender with Yao Ming on the team.

     

    Once again, incorrect. They were never contenders. This wasn’t a Western Conference title team, they were always "good, not great".  People hype them up when they beat a super inexperienced Portland team and lost by like 40 vs LA ( Yao wasn’t playing, but show some respect for yourself) years ago. Even before then, the Rockets wasn’t making out the first round. I already made my comment about the players, but it this is your 8-12, your good. If any of those guys start, I dobut your a legit title contender.

    The only one who could really be a 6th man ( but shouldn’t) is Budinger and even then, he shouldn’t because he’s not that good.

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  • #482199
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    BigD
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    Why the hating man?

    All 4 of these guys have shown there capable players, there all young, and they have a good solid core.

    Budinger is extremely athletic and can shoot, makes the little plays with could be the difference between a win or loss

    Terrence Williams could be an All-Star if he focuses and knuckles down.

    Jordan Hill has shown to be a legit double double threat, just extremely inconsistent from quarter to quarter, what’s more this guy isn’t scared of anybody defending him, eg. Vs the Magic, he got beat up by Dwight, but he really took it to him and didn’t back down from the challenge.

    Patrick Patterson could easily be a 19 and 9 guy.

     

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  • #482208
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    BKKnicksfan
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    How am I hating? Really, how is that hating? I’m not hating at all, you just mad sensitive.

    Budinger is average

    Terrance Williams will never be a all star. Take that to the bank

    Jordan Hill is not a double double threat.

    Patrick Patterson won’t be putting up 19-9 at all his whole career.

     

    I’m not hating. I’m just not overrating these young guys as much as you want me too.

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  • #482210
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    BigD
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    Have you actually ever watched the Rockets play?

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  • #482213
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    You don’t get it bro, its not about having a bunch of superstar/all-star on one team, not everyone can be the Lakers or Heat. But Houston have a good YOUNG foundation that could be 4 good/great role players if you add one Franchise Player on that team. I wouldn’t call Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson all-star but they are young players the Bulls have as a young core, with one franchise player (Rose). Houston could have the same thing if they can somehow get a franchise player to suround their young core.

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  • #482220
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    BKKnicksfan
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    You don’t get it bro, its not about having a bunch of superstar/all-star on one team,

     

    No, I get it. These are some average players. I agree, they can stay in the league but they are bench players. Like I said in my original post, you need a #1 guy ( in Houston’s case a #2 as well) to allow these players to look better. Kevin Martin is great. I think he’s personally, a top 50 basketball player along with Scola, but niether fit the batman nor robin role on a title team. I think they need a batman to help Houston. These guys are good, but there nothing to say "man, we have a awesome core" because I’d argue, all can be upgraded.

     

    Also, I seen them play 8 times this season.

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  • #482221
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    RickyRubio9
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     Let’s not forget Courtney Lee;

    I made a post like this, but it never got through so I said Screw It I ain’t writing it again.

    The T-Will trade baffles me…

    I’m ready for us to move on without Brooks as the Starter and K-Mart.
    They’re good, but the only people we should keep are Lowry, Scola, and Hayes. 
    And try to hold onto T-Will, Budinger, Hill, and Patterson.

    The rest are expendable: Brooks, Martin, Lee, Miller, Jefferies, Battier, 

    I’m sick of T-Will rotting on the bench and Budinger getting no minutes. 
    Battier should get less and Patrick Patterson and Hill should be before Miller. I don’t care if he’s healthy or not;
    If we’re going to miss the playoffs then develop these players!
    I understand Rick has that Coach Status of being "Hall of Fame" worthy, but he is so stubborn.
    Kevin Martin, Jared Jefferies, Budinger/Lee/T-Will for Danny Granger please? 
    Something along those lines. 
     

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  • #482233
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    BKKnicksfan
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    I love Courtney Lee’s game. It says something that Orlando trusted him in the finals to guard Kobe. I think he’s underrated and the Bulls should pick him up as a cheap upgrade to the 2.

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  • #482273
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    Hi its Ben
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    havent you realized by now that most of the ideas that come out of your head arent agreed upon? i mean, you have -500 and something points with 800 something posts… come on now. we all know your ideas are A LITTLE bit off….

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