[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

Interesting rumor about Heat possible pursuit of Melo.  From Anthonys standpoint it sounds like a once in a lifetime opportunity to join this team.  On the other hand, Melo wanted before to represent his home in NYC and would be mocked forever for leaving.  Can earn the best contract in NYC but can be convinced that he will make as much connected to Lebron and co.  in endorsements.  From an opposing fan viewpoint does any of these players think of having some manhood in playing AGAINST the opposition instead of joining?  Finally from a opposing team standpoint, its just going to get worse for the T.Wolves, Bucks, Cavs, and Nuggets of the NBA.  All players now get more limited contracts anyways due to salary caps so the best source of money is endorsement deals and playing for big market franchises or historic franchises like Boston or Houston.  Competition is just going to be at all time worsts.  

I think the best interest of the NBA is to protect franchises in some way for the sake of competition and well being of all teams.  Maybe each free agent signing elsewhere should be a mandatory sign and trade option for the team losing the player and has to be agreed upon.  Equal or near equal value should be returned.  If no agreement between both teams the player is unable to join the team and is free to sign elsewhere.  In this case of Melo to Heat, the return could be Bosh to NYK.  If that sign and trade isnt agreed upon, then Melo can sign with the Bulls with a similar scenario with a sign and trade.  I know its free agency and the proposal isnt "free" but there is a new league now and the better pay is outside of their own player contract.  Now players can sign for less and not be burdened to carry their team against the best but simply join the best.   Someone should act soon ala Sterling Ban because soon teams can just begin to bank on losing their stars and tank for their next star they will be destined to lose.  The new circle of life in the NBA

 

 

[llperez]

 the new rules that strike the hammer extra hard on teams who go well over the salary cap should keep even rich teams in check when it comes to overspending. And if it doesnt, oh well. I cant see justification for making free agents who are not obligated by a contract to have to stay somewhere. They should be able to do as they please. Plus keep in mind miami and other teams that that have "bought" championship teams are’t the norm. I mean look at this years final 4 of the nba playoffs. The thunder built through the draft(durant/westbrook/ibaka). The pacers built through the draft mostly(george/stephenson/hibbert) plus hill was a draft day trade of leonard. Look at the spurs roster, 4 guys who were aquired on draft night (duncan/parker/ginobli/leonard) and a bunch of of role players that not too many teams went after. That’s 3 out of 4 contenders this year that were not "bought".

[llperez]

 the new rules that strike the hammer extra hard on teams who go well over the salary cap should keep even rich teams in check when it comes to overspending. And if it doesnt, oh well. I cant see justification for making free agents who are not obligated by a contract to have to stay somewhere. They should be able to do as they please. Plus keep in mind miami and other teams that that have "bought" championship teams are’t the norm. I mean look at this years final 4 of the nba playoffs. The thunder built through the draft(durant/westbrook/ibaka). The pacers built through the draft mostly(george/stephenson/hibbert) plus hill was a draft day trade of leonard. Look at the spurs roster, 4 guys who were aquired on draft night (duncan/parker/ginobli/leonard) and a bunch of of role players that not too many teams went after. That’s 3 out of 4 contenders this year that were not "bought".

[SportsNinjaParticipant]

A trend has to start somewhere, and what OP is saying is to stop the trend before it gets out of control. Buying a team doesn’t always work, a la Lakers and Malone/GP, but when a team like the Heat has 4 (with Melo) of the top 15 players in the league it makes the NBA hard to watch. If people watch the Heat play, I wonder how many of them watch to see them lose. You could say the NBA is fine with villain teams, and all they care about are ratings, but that’s short-term thinking. Is there longevity in it?

Players should be free to go wherever they want, so there has to be another way to make the smaller markets more attractive. The purpose of a salary cap is to create parity. Teams didn’t have to find a way around it because the players did. 

Baseball has attempted to combat this issue by taking away a 1st round draft pick and giving it to the team that loses the FA (depending on the value of the player). That is terrible logic IMO for baseball. It would be even worse in the NBA because it would keep a team like the Cavs from signing any FA and trying to make their team better in ways other than the draft. It allows the best teams to sign FAs because losing the 28th pick isn’t going to kill your team.

Something should be done, but it can’t be limiting the choice of the players. Their lives and choices have to come before our preferences. . .and as I’m typing this I’m thinking about how Sterling just had a major asset taken from him. His rights as an American didn’t trump his agreement with the NBA. Maybe a player should have to take the highest contract offered to him or the contract his team offered. Free agency becomes more like a draft in that sense. I’m not saying I like the idea, and I don’t see how the union would ever approve, I’m just saying maybe it shouldn’t be cast aside so quickly. 

 

 

[SportsNinjaParticipant]

A trend has to start somewhere, and what OP is saying is to stop the trend before it gets out of control. Buying a team doesn’t always work, a la Lakers and Malone/GP, but when a team like the Heat has 4 (with Melo) of the top 15 players in the league it makes the NBA hard to watch. If people watch the Heat play, I wonder how many of them watch to see them lose. You could say the NBA is fine with villain teams, and all they care about are ratings, but that’s short-term thinking. Is there longevity in it?

Players should be free to go wherever they want, so there has to be another way to make the smaller markets more attractive. The purpose of a salary cap is to create parity. Teams didn’t have to find a way around it because the players did. 

Baseball has attempted to combat this issue by taking away a 1st round draft pick and giving it to the team that loses the FA (depending on the value of the player). That is terrible logic IMO for baseball. It would be even worse in the NBA because it would keep a team like the Cavs from signing any FA and trying to make their team better in ways other than the draft. It allows the best teams to sign FAs because losing the 28th pick isn’t going to kill your team.

Something should be done, but it can’t be limiting the choice of the players. Their lives and choices have to come before our preferences. . .and as I’m typing this I’m thinking about how Sterling just had a major asset taken from him. His rights as an American didn’t trump his agreement with the NBA. Maybe a player should have to take the highest contract offered to him or the contract his team offered. Free agency becomes more like a draft in that sense. I’m not saying I like the idea, and I don’t see how the union would ever approve, I’m just saying maybe it shouldn’t be cast aside so quickly. 

 

 

[omphalosParticipant]

 The best argument for parity in the competition is greed, for the most part players are motivated by getting the biggest contract and there aren’t that many of those to go around.

Its just that a player like Lebron can earn more by winning and endorsements than whatever extra he’d get staying in the same place.

[omphalosParticipant]

 The best argument for parity in the competition is greed, for the most part players are motivated by getting the biggest contract and there aren’t that many of those to go around.

Its just that a player like Lebron can earn more by winning and endorsements than whatever extra he’d get staying in the same place.

[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

Since free agency is abandoning one team to join another team it could be about free agency and two teams agreeing.  Back to the idea I purposed,  it wouldnt be constricting the free agent but could deny the likes of Miami to sign everyone for less and destroying the competition.  One other consideration to make in this idea is to keep drafted picks from being in the sign and trade for free agents.  An example would be if the Spurs wanted to sign Carmelo this year.  Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, and Leonard who were all Spurs draft picks could be exempt from these trades.  Exceptions could be that they were traded picks (Leonard)  Teams deserve to keep their own picks and the team they built.  Instead, they could do a three way trade and benefit another team in the process.  The Spurs in theory acquire Melo, Pistons get involved and part with J.Smith to Knicks and Pistons receive a prime role player or draft pick from each team which saves $$ and flexibility.  This is all about some kind of control for teams in the future of the free agency market

Teams should be built from the draft first and get rewarded in free agency second.  

[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

Since free agency is abandoning one team to join another team it could be about free agency and two teams agreeing.  Back to the idea I purposed,  it wouldnt be constricting the free agent but could deny the likes of Miami to sign everyone for less and destroying the competition.  One other consideration to make in this idea is to keep drafted picks from being in the sign and trade for free agents.  An example would be if the Spurs wanted to sign Carmelo this year.  Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, and Leonard who were all Spurs draft picks could be exempt from these trades.  Exceptions could be that they were traded picks (Leonard)  Teams deserve to keep their own picks and the team they built.  Instead, they could do a three way trade and benefit another team in the process.  The Spurs in theory acquire Melo, Pistons get involved and part with J.Smith to Knicks and Pistons receive a prime role player or draft pick from each team which saves $$ and flexibility.  This is all about some kind of control for teams in the future of the free agency market

Teams should be built from the draft first and get rewarded in free agency second.  

[phila9012Participant]

The NBA is messed up, they want small market teams to compete but they put stupid rules in like you can only sign one player coming off their rookie contract to a 5 year max deal. That screwed up kevin love in Minnesota because he would have signed it, but the team didn’t want to risk losing Rubio so they only offered him 4 years. The harsher luxury tax penalties screwed the thunder from keeping harden who are another small market team from being able to reap the rewards from their good management. We always want players to care about winning and now that they do and are willing to take less money to win we knock them for it. There are problems with what ever way they do it.

The English premier league teams are able to play in tournaments during the season so smaller teams have a chance of winning something. Also teams get money based on the record they finish with. That could help the league reduce the tanking, if the last five teams knew they were going to get less money then they would be less likely to tank, then there would be loss of revenue from fans not showing up and they would lose more from revenue from the league. Then expand the lottery to 5 spots instead of 3. that would help eliminate tanking and create more parity because teams like the 76ers would have spent more money on their roster to finish in a better spot and most of the teams would be willing to spend a little more if they knew they could make more money if they did.

[phila9012Participant]

The NBA is messed up, they want small market teams to compete but they put stupid rules in like you can only sign one player coming off their rookie contract to a 5 year max deal. That screwed up kevin love in Minnesota because he would have signed it, but the team didn’t want to risk losing Rubio so they only offered him 4 years. The harsher luxury tax penalties screwed the thunder from keeping harden who are another small market team from being able to reap the rewards from their good management. We always want players to care about winning and now that they do and are willing to take less money to win we knock them for it. There are problems with what ever way they do it.

The English premier league teams are able to play in tournaments during the season so smaller teams have a chance of winning something. Also teams get money based on the record they finish with. That could help the league reduce the tanking, if the last five teams knew they were going to get less money then they would be less likely to tank, then there would be loss of revenue from fans not showing up and they would lose more from revenue from the league. Then expand the lottery to 5 spots instead of 3. that would help eliminate tanking and create more parity because teams like the 76ers would have spent more money on their roster to finish in a better spot and most of the teams would be willing to spend a little more if they knew they could make more money if they did.

[Rip255]

Are you guys for real?

So now David Silver is going to send a memo out to all teams that they want them to be good, but not too good. To make it fair they’re only allowed to attract crumby free agents to balance out their stars and let other teams win?

I come to draftnet because its full of educated fans who make intelligent comments. Telling the NBA to stop teams like the heat from becoming too good lol. Lift your game. This kind of rubbish belongs on Bleach Report. 

 

 

 

 

[frogmanParticipant]

It’s Adam Silver.  David Silver is a character on Beverly Hills 90210, don’t ask me how I know that

[frogmanParticipant]

It’s Adam Silver.  David Silver is a character on Beverly Hills 90210, don’t ask me how I know that

[Rip255]

Are you guys for real?

So now David Silver is going to send a memo out to all teams that they want them to be good, but not too good. To make it fair they’re only allowed to attract crumby free agents to balance out their stars and let other teams win?

I come to draftnet because its full of educated fans who make intelligent comments. Telling the NBA to stop teams like the heat from becoming too good lol. Lift your game. This kind of rubbish belongs on Bleach Report. 

 

 

 

 

[XYRYXParticipant]

Cool down guys. This article is from the same sportssite that just has written an article about Bron asking former Champs in 2011…

There is absolutely no background behind this story aside from pure speculation.

[XYRYXParticipant]

Cool down guys. This article is from the same sportssite that just has written an article about Bron asking former Champs in 2011…

There is absolutely no background behind this story aside from pure speculation.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

 All they need is Darko and this team would be a perfect replica of the top 5 of the 2003 draft.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

 All they need is Darko and this team would be a perfect replica of the top 5 of the 2003 draft.

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

If basketball was a game with 4 players x team… no money for bench!

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

If basketball was a game with 4 players x team… no money for bench!

[tidhoParticipant]

They don’t have money for a bench now and they are about to win their 3rd straight title.

 

Can’t stop guys if they are willing to take below market money.

[tidhoParticipant]

They don’t have money for a bench now and they are about to win their 3rd straight title.

 

Can’t stop guys if they are willing to take below market money.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

Is that the NWO?

[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

Is that the NWO?

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Well, D Wade is slipping, and Bosh isn’t a top 10 guy in the league.  The Heat would be really, really good, but I don’t see Carmelo getting the Heat more that two titles to add to the Heat’s ring count.

… I have been thinking that the Thunder should trade everybody not named Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka for Kevin Love.

I would probably take Durant, Westbrook, Love, and Ibaka over LeBron, Carmelo, D Wade, and Bosh.  Younger and better shooters with an inside paint protector in Ibaka and a rebounding beast in Kevin Love.

ONE super team could be bad for the league, but TWO super teams could be GREAT (at least for a few years). 

San Antonio will still be there, and it will be fun to see who they add this offseason. 

I think only one great team is bad for the league, but as long as there are 2 or 3 GREAT teams (along with some other SOLID teams), the NBA has been good.  It’s actually been better when there is a great team or two or three great teams, than just a bunch of average teams out there.

The league would be GREAT if we had a few finals between a Big Four Heat (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Carmelo), and a Big Four Thunder (Durant, Westbrook, Love, Ibaka).  Then you have a really good spoiler team like the San Antonio Spurs with some solid mid-card teams like the Clippers, Bulls, Warriors, Pacers, and Grizzlies. 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Well, D Wade is slipping, and Bosh isn’t a top 10 guy in the league.  The Heat would be really, really good, but I don’t see Carmelo getting the Heat more that two titles to add to the Heat’s ring count.

… I have been thinking that the Thunder should trade everybody not named Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka for Kevin Love.

I would probably take Durant, Westbrook, Love, and Ibaka over LeBron, Carmelo, D Wade, and Bosh.  Younger and better shooters with an inside paint protector in Ibaka and a rebounding beast in Kevin Love.

ONE super team could be bad for the league, but TWO super teams could be GREAT (at least for a few years). 

San Antonio will still be there, and it will be fun to see who they add this offseason. 

I think only one great team is bad for the league, but as long as there are 2 or 3 GREAT teams (along with some other SOLID teams), the NBA has been good.  It’s actually been better when there is a great team or two or three great teams, than just a bunch of average teams out there.

The league would be GREAT if we had a few finals between a Big Four Heat (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Carmelo), and a Big Four Thunder (Durant, Westbrook, Love, Ibaka).  Then you have a really good spoiler team like the San Antonio Spurs with some solid mid-card teams like the Clippers, Bulls, Warriors, Pacers, and Grizzlies. 

[Izzy WailinParticipant]

Does anyone believe that the prescription for comntinued success in Miami is more offense and less defense?  Because that’s exacly what Melo would bring to South Beach.

However, as a 76ers fan, I don’t mind, especially if our team could benefit.  The way I see it, the Heat’s run will be winding down by the time Philly’s is gearing up.  In fact, I hope Hinkie decides to lend a hand to our friend’s from the sunshine state.  I think the Sixers should relieve the Heat of $4.6 million in salary by taking Udonis Haslem off their hands.  In exchamge, the Heat can relinquish our obligation to compensate them for Arnett Moultrie, (ugh!).

I feel Haslem and his 130+ games of playoff experience would be a perfect mentor for our young team.  win/win.

[Izzy WailinParticipant]

Does anyone believe that the prescription for comntinued success in Miami is more offense and less defense?  Because that’s exacly what Melo would bring to South Beach.

However, as a 76ers fan, I don’t mind, especially if our team could benefit.  The way I see it, the Heat’s run will be winding down by the time Philly’s is gearing up.  In fact, I hope Hinkie decides to lend a hand to our friend’s from the sunshine state.  I think the Sixers should relieve the Heat of $4.6 million in salary by taking Udonis Haslem off their hands.  In exchamge, the Heat can relinquish our obligation to compensate them for Arnett Moultrie, (ugh!).

I feel Haslem and his 130+ games of playoff experience would be a perfect mentor for our young team.  win/win.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

This could force the Thunder to actually do something.  They can trade young guys whose value is high and whose contract is low (Reggie Jackson, Steven Adams, Lamb, picks) for a guy like Kevin Love.

The league would be really good if there were 3 or 4 GREAT teams.

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

This could force the Thunder to actually do something.  They can trade young guys whose value is high and whose contract is low (Reggie Jackson, Steven Adams, Lamb, picks) for a guy like Kevin Love.

The league would be really good if there were 3 or 4 GREAT teams.

 

[ballislyfe25Participant]

So we need to ban tanking and revamp the lottery but Miami is free to sign 4 of the top 15 players in the league. How else is a team like Philadelphia supposed to build if they have zero shot at any of the superstar players?

Carmelo has all the right in the world to take the pay cut and join the Big 3, however, it will basically make the season pointless for the entire Eastern Conference. No one could compete with Miami this year, and now they add Melo? They will run through their bracket.

I really don’t have an answer for how to handle this but I just would rather watch Melo compete against LeBron, not with him.

[ballislyfe25Participant]

So we need to ban tanking and revamp the lottery but Miami is free to sign 4 of the top 15 players in the league. How else is a team like Philadelphia supposed to build if they have zero shot at any of the superstar players?

Carmelo has all the right in the world to take the pay cut and join the Big 3, however, it will basically make the season pointless for the entire Eastern Conference. No one could compete with Miami this year, and now they add Melo? They will run through their bracket.

I really don’t have an answer for how to handle this but I just would rather watch Melo compete against LeBron, not with him.

[McDunkin]

If this 2k like deal goes down the hate for the Heat and any related party would be phenomenal. 

 

It may sound crazy now but I can already see the hundreds of "I give up on the NBA" type tweets/statuses

[McDunkin]

If this 2k like deal goes down the hate for the Heat and any related party would be phenomenal. 

 

It may sound crazy now but I can already see the hundreds of "I give up on the NBA" type tweets/statuses

[tuck243Participant]

Once the league allowed KG to restructure his contract and allow him to get traded to Boston, it changed the land scape of the league.  Every other "Super team" in the last 2 era’s were built through the draft and 1 big acquisition in an off season.   The league allowed for 2 to happen in one summer.  You can debate this all you want, but the league wanted Boston to be relevant again and this became the domino effect of what will happen next.

LeBron and Bosh to Miami to team up with D. Wade.  What series was LeBron last one in Cleveland?  The Boston series.   He knew he couldn’t beat them without having a couple all-stars by his side too..  Instead of waiting until they were on the other side of their primes, they did it before they entered it.  Which enabled them to contend with the great teams of yester years…  I couldn’t stand when Boston did it…  And I damn sure couldn’t stand when Miami did it.   It was cowardly to me…   But the issue here is…  Once its done, you have no other choice, but to do it too…   Do you want to win a championship or sit on the sidelines while the Heat win everything? 

So, what does the league do?  Make it practically IMPOSSIBLE for other teams to do exactly what the Heat did.  They increased the tax penalties and took down the max offers another team can give a player.   If you’re Melo, what team do you go to?  There are only 2 tax free states with basketball teams.  Spurs and Dallas are too old.   Houston clearly has an issue in their locker room and James Harden showed he could careless about winning anything.  Orlando is a lottery team and the HEAT is in the finals for the 4th time in a row….  Who has the recipe for success right now?

The way I see it, the league is already damaged.  LeBron is the Greatest player on earth.   That alone is already hard to beat.  Why not go to Miami and take less money (not really because they’re not paying over 10% in state taxes)?  Chicago an option and that’s only because they play defense…  But Chicago front office is beefing with one of the top coaches in the league…  Where should Melo go? Nothing is a surefire bet, BUT Miami…   Win rings and get your money.   Who cares about parity at this point?

[tuck243Participant]

Once the league allowed KG to restructure his contract and allow him to get traded to Boston, it changed the land scape of the league.  Every other "Super team" in the last 2 era’s were built through the draft and 1 big acquisition in an off season.   The league allowed for 2 to happen in one summer.  You can debate this all you want, but the league wanted Boston to be relevant again and this became the domino effect of what will happen next.

LeBron and Bosh to Miami to team up with D. Wade.  What series was LeBron last one in Cleveland?  The Boston series.   He knew he couldn’t beat them without having a couple all-stars by his side too..  Instead of waiting until they were on the other side of their primes, they did it before they entered it.  Which enabled them to contend with the great teams of yester years…  I couldn’t stand when Boston did it…  And I damn sure couldn’t stand when Miami did it.   It was cowardly to me…   But the issue here is…  Once its done, you have no other choice, but to do it too…   Do you want to win a championship or sit on the sidelines while the Heat win everything? 

So, what does the league do?  Make it practically IMPOSSIBLE for other teams to do exactly what the Heat did.  They increased the tax penalties and took down the max offers another team can give a player.   If you’re Melo, what team do you go to?  There are only 2 tax free states with basketball teams.  Spurs and Dallas are too old.   Houston clearly has an issue in their locker room and James Harden showed he could careless about winning anything.  Orlando is a lottery team and the HEAT is in the finals for the 4th time in a row….  Who has the recipe for success right now?

The way I see it, the league is already damaged.  LeBron is the Greatest player on earth.   That alone is already hard to beat.  Why not go to Miami and take less money (not really because they’re not paying over 10% in state taxes)?  Chicago an option and that’s only because they play defense…  But Chicago front office is beefing with one of the top coaches in the league…  Where should Melo go? Nothing is a surefire bet, BUT Miami…   Win rings and get your money.   Who cares about parity at this point?

[BogDon_KryptParticipant]

McDunkin has a lot of points, so I negged him

[BogDon_KryptParticipant]

McDunkin has a lot of points, so I negged him

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

melo had been in the playoffs every yr of his career, until this season…melo has a reputation of not being a winner..going to miami joining forces with 3 superstars might give him a ring..but it wont be the same as if he went to play with the bulls and lead them to a title…..

with the bulls adding a healthy rose ,2 number 1st round picks,they have the talent the take the east……

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

melo had been in the playoffs every yr of his career, until this season…melo has a reputation of not being a winner..going to miami joining forces with 3 superstars might give him a ring..but it wont be the same as if he went to play with the bulls and lead them to a title…..

with the bulls adding a healthy rose ,2 number 1st round picks,they have the talent the take the east……

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