[joe2324Participant]

It’s starting to really piss me off the arrogance some players and those in the media have regarding hack a jordan/drummond etc… as its part of the game. Here is a quote from Lebron last night, 

"It’s all about winning. It was strategy," he said. "The game of basketball is about strategy and execution, and you know, whatever it takes for us to get a win."

No Lebron that is not basketball. That was garbage.

I get that its not illegal, but everyone is forgetting something. Its down right painful to watch and most fans are don’t want to sit there and watch this nonsense. If this is what basketball is turning into, i’m tuning out and I hope others do too. I don’t usually agree with Stephen A Smith but he talked about this the other day and he was on point. The league has to do something because this is brutal. I had to turn the rocket piston game off and I also turned off the cavs and clippers when it started. 

[ThugHenParticipant]

 Basketball isn’t mainly a skills or athleticism thing, it’s more about "brain" and indeed tactics. As you play to win you always try to use the best tactic possible. I’d love to see more low scoring games where teams actually put effort for 48 minutes on their defence or play a 1-3-1. Even fouling at the end of a close game it’s not that great but it makes you win sometimes. Tactics and smart plays are the keys for basketball not people that can perform ridicoulus dunks but can’t down a free throw: the beauty of basketball is not on a half court shot or in a dunk it’s in the way you play smart and yes the hack on people that can’t shoot free throws is smart.

[ThugHenParticipant]

 Basketball isn’t mainly a skills or athleticism thing, it’s more about "brain" and indeed tactics. As you play to win you always try to use the best tactic possible. I’d love to see more low scoring games where teams actually put effort for 48 minutes on their defence or play a 1-3-1. Even fouling at the end of a close game it’s not that great but it makes you win sometimes. Tactics and smart plays are the keys for basketball not people that can perform ridicoulus dunks but can’t down a free throw: the beauty of basketball is not on a half court shot or in a dunk it’s in the way you play smart and yes the hack on people that can’t shoot free throws is smart.

[Andrew1984Participant]

If this is what basketball is turning into, i’m tuning out and I hope others do too.

Don’t let the door hit ya.

[Andrew1984Participant]

If this is what basketball is turning into, i’m tuning out and I hope others do too.

Don’t let the door hit ya.

[D7H7NParticipant]

 If you make anywhere near 50% of your free throws, the hacking strategy goes out the window. One point per possession is pretty good. There is no excuse for an NBA player, a talented one at that, to be shooting 35% from the free throw line.

If you throw logic out the window, the only legit arguments against it anyone can make is that it’s not pretty to watch and it extends the game. 

 

 

[D7H7NParticipant]

 If you make anywhere near 50% of your free throws, the hacking strategy goes out the window. One point per possession is pretty good. There is no excuse for an NBA player, a talented one at that, to be shooting 35% from the free throw line.

If you throw logic out the window, the only legit arguments against it anyone can make is that it’s not pretty to watch and it extends the game. 

 

 

[Sharp ShooterParticipant]

 That hack a drummond/jordan is a not executing, all it does is put you in the penalty

Case in point:

The Rockets and Pistons game

 

 

 

 

 

[Sharp ShooterParticipant]

 That hack a drummond/jordan is a not executing, all it does is put you in the penalty

Case in point:

The Rockets and Pistons game

 

 

 

 

 

[natevalParticipant]

 Maybe to fair it up a little guys like Jordan, Howard and Drummond shouldn’t be allowed to dunk lol, their to big compared to the majority of the league. 

Learn how to make a free throw, it’s part of the game. 

 

[natevalParticipant]

 Maybe to fair it up a little guys like Jordan, Howard and Drummond shouldn’t be allowed to dunk lol, their to big compared to the majority of the league. 

Learn how to make a free throw, it’s part of the game. 

 

[PaulsJayhawksParticipant]

 I agree the rule should not be changed and as an oposing coach I would use it every time. Look how dominat Drummond has been when he’s on the floor and Jordan on the defensive end. You off set a strength by exposing a weakness, thats good coaching. If you can force a guy to the bench you try and gain that advantage any way you can. 

As a player, these guys are getting paid millions and millions of dollars. While I know there is a mental part of it, trust me I have the yipps in golf, there have been awful free throw shooters who have become much better and as a poster above mentioned all you have to do is get to 50% and the strategy really doesn’t work..

I must say i like how Hassan is at trying new things, hes now shooting it faster almsot like a pick and pop vs a ft

Try it underhand boys, you may look dumb but is not dummer than missing 23 in a night.

 

 

 

 

[PaulsJayhawksParticipant]

 I agree the rule should not be changed and as an oposing coach I would use it every time. Look how dominat Drummond has been when he’s on the floor and Jordan on the defensive end. You off set a strength by exposing a weakness, thats good coaching. If you can force a guy to the bench you try and gain that advantage any way you can. 

As a player, these guys are getting paid millions and millions of dollars. While I know there is a mental part of it, trust me I have the yipps in golf, there have been awful free throw shooters who have become much better and as a poster above mentioned all you have to do is get to 50% and the strategy really doesn’t work..

I must say i like how Hassan is at trying new things, hes now shooting it faster almsot like a pick and pop vs a ft

Try it underhand boys, you may look dumb but is not dummer than missing 23 in a night.

 

 

 

 

[jcotingParticipant]

"If you don’t want to get hacked then work on your f—ing free throws." – Kevin Durant

[jcotingParticipant]

"If you don’t want to get hacked then work on your f—ing free throws." – Kevin Durant

[UnbiasedObserverParticipant]

 I would just be emulating everybody else but i have the exact same opinion. You get paid millions upon millions of dollars. Learn how to make a free throw…

[UnbiasedObserverParticipant]

 I would just be emulating everybody else but i have the exact same opinion. You get paid millions upon millions of dollars. Learn how to make a free throw…

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Although it doesn’t seem to be the popular sentiment on this forum, I gotta agree with the OP here. Something needs to be done about this. It makes games way too long and unbearable to watch and completely kills all offensive rhythm and fluidity. No one is buying tickets to or tuning into an NBA game to watch deandre jordan and Andre Drummond shoot FTs. You can talk all you want about it being good strategy but the bottom line is that it just creates bad basketball. I know the simple solution is to just "make your free throws" but the reality is that for some players that’s just easier said than done.

Just extend the rule where if you intentionally foul in the last 2 mins away from the ball to cover the rest of the game as well. 2 shots and the ball every time. I don’t mind fouling a guy when he has the ball to prevent him from scoring but running up and bear-hugging a guy before he even steps in bounds is ridiculous. I can’t believe the league hasn’t addressed this already.

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Although it doesn’t seem to be the popular sentiment on this forum, I gotta agree with the OP here. Something needs to be done about this. It makes games way too long and unbearable to watch and completely kills all offensive rhythm and fluidity. No one is buying tickets to or tuning into an NBA game to watch deandre jordan and Andre Drummond shoot FTs. You can talk all you want about it being good strategy but the bottom line is that it just creates bad basketball. I know the simple solution is to just "make your free throws" but the reality is that for some players that’s just easier said than done.

Just extend the rule where if you intentionally foul in the last 2 mins away from the ball to cover the rest of the game as well. 2 shots and the ball every time. I don’t mind fouling a guy when he has the ball to prevent him from scoring but running up and bear-hugging a guy before he even steps in bounds is ridiculous. I can’t believe the league hasn’t addressed this already.

 

[SFGiantsParticipant]

 How about these players who can’t shoot better than 50% from the FT line try the granny shot.  Going 13-36 is more embarrassing than shooting granny shots.

[SFGiantsParticipant]

 How about these players who can’t shoot better than 50% from the FT line try the granny shot.  Going 13-36 is more embarrassing than shooting granny shots.

[SubZeroParticipant]

I just don’t get why coaches still do it. The team that does it almost never wins (i.e. Drummond missing 23 free throws and still beat the Rockets) unless you’re the Spurs

[SubZeroParticipant]

I just don’t get why coaches still do it. The team that does it almost never wins (i.e. Drummond missing 23 free throws and still beat the Rockets) unless you’re the Spurs

[Hype Machine]

Id rather spend time with my mother-in-law than watch hack-a-shaq.

 

[Hype Machine]

Id rather spend time with my mother-in-law than watch hack-a-shaq.

 

[KIP BallerParticipant]

I am not for changing the rules because I think guys should learn how to make free throws, but if they did make a change, would this work to balance the fan experience and strategy:

In scenarios where teams use hack-a-whoever, the player gets 1 free throw worth 2 points. Game moves twice as fast by only having 1 shot. Team fouling has to weigh the risk of fouling because one lucky shot could lead to 2 easy points. 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KIP BallerParticipant]

I am not for changing the rules because I think guys should learn how to make free throws, but if they did make a change, would this work to balance the fan experience and strategy:

In scenarios where teams use hack-a-whoever, the player gets 1 free throw worth 2 points. Game moves twice as fast by only having 1 shot. Team fouling has to weigh the risk of fouling because one lucky shot could lead to 2 easy points. 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[D7H7NParticipant]

 That doesn’t change anything. A person who shoots 40% with two free throw attempts is going to do the same on average with one free throw attempt worth two points. 

 

 

[D7H7NParticipant]

 That doesn’t change anything. A person who shoots 40% with two free throw attempts is going to do the same on average with one free throw attempt worth two points. 

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Some players can’t hit 3s, so move the line closer.

Some players just can’t dunk, so lower the basket.

Some players can’t hit free throws, so change all the rules so their weakness doesn’t impact their team and they can get paid huge amounts of money.

Teams get punished by the rules for fouling.  Players foul out, the hacked player does actually make their free throws sometimes, the fouling team sometimes get out of rhythm with their offense and they never get fast breaks, if they are playing at home the crowd leaves or moans.

If they keep changing rules to help giant centers with few shooting skills, then it won’t be fun to watch and could be just as bad as seeing them shoot 30 free throws.

 

 

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Some players can’t hit 3s, so move the line closer.

Some players just can’t dunk, so lower the basket.

Some players can’t hit free throws, so change all the rules so their weakness doesn’t impact their team and they can get paid huge amounts of money.

Teams get punished by the rules for fouling.  Players foul out, the hacked player does actually make their free throws sometimes, the fouling team sometimes get out of rhythm with their offense and they never get fast breaks, if they are playing at home the crowd leaves or moans.

If they keep changing rules to help giant centers with few shooting skills, then it won’t be fun to watch and could be just as bad as seeing them shoot 30 free throws.

 

 

 

 

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