[sammybuckeye13Participant]

If you guessed 0, you’re right. I noticed this after game 6 or 7 and didn’t think too much of it but now it’s just pathetic. He’s a 7-0/265 (- ESPN) elite-level (supposedly) center and he has no double-doubles in is first 14 games?? Is that possible?? He has only had double-digit rebounds once (10), and he chose that game to score 7 points!! 4 other Nets have double-doubles!! Kris HUMPHRIES has 3!!! Not only that, but Lopez is shooting an atrocious 42.2% from the field. I was huge Lopez fan after his first and second years in the league but it’s hard to respect a center with such a great skill set that just doesn’t rebound and now shoots so inefficiently. 

 

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

That’s staggering!

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

That’s staggering!

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

That’s staggering!

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue. He is still adjusting to Avery’s defensive emphasis, but that is separate from the rebounding. The shooting percentage is a sample size issue. He had a bad week following the shoulder injury, but since then his shooting numbers are basically back to where they normally are.

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue. He is still adjusting to Avery’s defensive emphasis, but that is separate from the rebounding. The shooting percentage is a sample size issue. He had a bad week following the shoulder injury, but since then his shooting numbers are basically back to where they normally are.

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue. He is still adjusting to Avery’s defensive emphasis, but that is separate from the rebounding. The shooting percentage is a sample size issue. He had a bad week following the shoulder injury, but since then his shooting numbers are basically back to where they normally are.

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue. He is still adjusting to Avery’s defensive emphasis, but that is separate from the rebounding. The shooting percentage is a sample size issue. He had a bad week following the shoulder injury, but since then his shooting numbers are basically back to where they normally are.

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue. He is still adjusting to Avery’s defensive emphasis, but that is separate from the rebounding. The shooting percentage is a sample size issue. He had a bad week following the shoulder injury, but since then his shooting numbers are basically back to where they normally are.

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue. He is still adjusting to Avery’s defensive emphasis, but that is separate from the rebounding. The shooting percentage is a sample size issue. He had a bad week following the shoulder injury, but since then his shooting numbers are basically back to where they normally are.

 

[Anton123Participant]

Both Lopez brothers have been dissapointing so far. Robin was said to be MIP, but has gone down with an injury after quite a bad start to the season. Brook was said to be an all-star this year by some, but now he’s posting averages less impresive than those that he posted in his rookie year

[Anton123Participant]

Both Lopez brothers have been dissapointing so far. Robin was said to be MIP, but has gone down with an injury after quite a bad start to the season. Brook was said to be an all-star this year by some, but now he’s posting averages less impresive than those that he posted in his rookie year

[Anton123Participant]

Both Lopez brothers have been dissapointing so far. Robin was said to be MIP, but has gone down with an injury after quite a bad start to the season. Brook was said to be an all-star this year by some, but now he’s posting averages less impresive than those that he posted in his rookie year

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

"Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue."

That’s perfectly sensible, but I would not say it’s a non-issue. Lopez is a highly skilled 7-footer playing 35 minutes a night. The fact that he hasn’t put together one double-double is disgraceful, and it’s not like they aded Reggie Evans and P.J. Brown; Humphries has started 14 games in his career (if he was a very good rebounder he would play more, considering he was a lottery pick), Outlaw’s rebounding career high prior to this year was 4.6, and Favors is a rookie. They might be "good" rebounders, but they 3 together are certainly no excuse for Lopez averaging 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes; right now’s it’s Lopez that’s making them look like great rebounders. How can it be a non-issue? I don’t care about Avery Johnson’s "Defensive empahasis" – a rebound is a rebound.

 

 

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

"Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue."

That’s perfectly sensible, but I would not say it’s a non-issue. Lopez is a highly skilled 7-footer playing 35 minutes a night. The fact that he hasn’t put together one double-double is disgraceful, and it’s not like they aded Reggie Evans and P.J. Brown; Humphries has started 14 games in his career (if he was a very good rebounder he would play more, considering he was a lottery pick), Outlaw’s rebounding career high prior to this year was 4.6, and Favors is a rookie. They might be "good" rebounders, but they 3 together are certainly no excuse for Lopez averaging 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes; right now’s it’s Lopez that’s making them look like great rebounders. How can it be a non-issue? I don’t care about Avery Johnson’s "Defensive empahasis" – a rebound is a rebound.

 

 

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

"Lopez is getting fewer rebounds because the Nets are a better rebounding team than they were last year. Humphries, Favors, and Outlaw are good rebounders. Lopez’s individual rebounding number is a non-issue."

That’s perfectly sensible, but I would not say it’s a non-issue. Lopez is a highly skilled 7-footer playing 35 minutes a night. The fact that he hasn’t put together one double-double is disgraceful, and it’s not like they aded Reggie Evans and P.J. Brown; Humphries has started 14 games in his career (if he was a very good rebounder he would play more, considering he was a lottery pick), Outlaw’s rebounding career high prior to this year was 4.6, and Favors is a rookie. They might be "good" rebounders, but they 3 together are certainly no excuse for Lopez averaging 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes; right now’s it’s Lopez that’s making them look like great rebounders. How can it be a non-issue? I don’t care about Avery Johnson’s "Defensive empahasis" – a rebound is a rebound.

 

 

[PlatypusParticipant]

 

PLAYER	GP	GS	MIN	PPG	OFFR	DEFR	RPG	APG	SPG	BPG	TPG	FPG	A/TO	PER
Kris Humphries, PF	13	6	21.5	7.8	2.0	5.3	7.3	0.6	0.46	1.00	0.7	2.2	0.9	21.0
Derrick Favors, PF	13	0	20.5	7.6	2.7	3.7	6.4	0.2	0.08	0.62	0.8	3.3	0.2	15.8
Brook Lopez, C	13	13	34.7	17.2	2.3	4.0	6.3	1.3	0.46	1.85	2.2	3.8	0.6	15.1
Troy Murphy, PF	5	4	20.4	4.4	1.0	4.2	5.2	1.0	0.40	0.20	1.0	2.2	1.0	4.8
Travis Outlaw, SF	13	13	33.5	12.1	0.8	4.2	5.1	0.8	0.23	0.31	0.8	2.4	1.1	11.9
Terrence Williams, SF	8	0	19.9	6.8	0.3	3.5	3.8	3.0	0.25	0.00	2.5	2.1	1.2	6.5
Anthony Morrow, SG	13	13	33.7	12.2	0.8	2.5	3.3	1.0	0.46	0.23	1.0	2.3	1.0	11.7
Devin Harris, PG	13	13	30.8	16.8	0.2	2.7	2.8	6.8	0.92	0.15	2.8	2.7	2.4	21.6
Jordan Farmar, PG	13	0	22.8	8.7	0.2	2.0	2.2	4.2	1.15	0.00	2.0	1.4	2.1	13.5
Johan Petro, C	11	0	8.2	1.8	0.7	1.5	2.2	0.5	0.18	0.45	0.5	1.4	1.0	9.1
Ben Uzoh, G	1	0	6.0	0.0	1.0	1.0	2.0	0.0	0.00	0.00	0.0	1.0	0.0	6.2
Damion James, SF	7	0	7.9	2.1	0.1	1.0	1.1	0.3	0.00	0.00	0.3	0.4	1.0	3.2
Stephen Graham, SF	7	0	9.0	1.9	0.3	0.7	1.0	1.0	0.14	0.00	0.1	1.3	7.0	4.7
Joe Smith, PF	4	3	6.3	0.5	0.3	0.5	0.8	0.3	0.00	0.00	0.5	0.8	0.5	-3.9
Quinton Ross, SF	7	0	7.3	0.9	0.3	0.1	0.4	0.1	0.14	0.00	0.1	0.9	1.0	0.8
Totals	13	—	—	92.7	10.8	30.6	41.4	18.5	4.38	4.62	14.1	23.2	1.3	—

 

[PlatypusParticipant]

 

PLAYER	GP	GS	MIN	PPG	OFFR	DEFR	RPG	APG	SPG	BPG	TPG	FPG	A/TO	PER
Kris Humphries, PF	13	6	21.5	7.8	2.0	5.3	7.3	0.6	0.46	1.00	0.7	2.2	0.9	21.0
Derrick Favors, PF	13	0	20.5	7.6	2.7	3.7	6.4	0.2	0.08	0.62	0.8	3.3	0.2	15.8
Brook Lopez, C	13	13	34.7	17.2	2.3	4.0	6.3	1.3	0.46	1.85	2.2	3.8	0.6	15.1
Troy Murphy, PF	5	4	20.4	4.4	1.0	4.2	5.2	1.0	0.40	0.20	1.0	2.2	1.0	4.8
Travis Outlaw, SF	13	13	33.5	12.1	0.8	4.2	5.1	0.8	0.23	0.31	0.8	2.4	1.1	11.9
Terrence Williams, SF	8	0	19.9	6.8	0.3	3.5	3.8	3.0	0.25	0.00	2.5	2.1	1.2	6.5
Anthony Morrow, SG	13	13	33.7	12.2	0.8	2.5	3.3	1.0	0.46	0.23	1.0	2.3	1.0	11.7
Devin Harris, PG	13	13	30.8	16.8	0.2	2.7	2.8	6.8	0.92	0.15	2.8	2.7	2.4	21.6
Jordan Farmar, PG	13	0	22.8	8.7	0.2	2.0	2.2	4.2	1.15	0.00	2.0	1.4	2.1	13.5
Johan Petro, C	11	0	8.2	1.8	0.7	1.5	2.2	0.5	0.18	0.45	0.5	1.4	1.0	9.1
Ben Uzoh, G	1	0	6.0	0.0	1.0	1.0	2.0	0.0	0.00	0.00	0.0	1.0	0.0	6.2
Damion James, SF	7	0	7.9	2.1	0.1	1.0	1.1	0.3	0.00	0.00	0.3	0.4	1.0	3.2
Stephen Graham, SF	7	0	9.0	1.9	0.3	0.7	1.0	1.0	0.14	0.00	0.1	1.3	7.0	4.7
Joe Smith, PF	4	3	6.3	0.5	0.3	0.5	0.8	0.3	0.00	0.00	0.5	0.8	0.5	-3.9
Quinton Ross, SF	7	0	7.3	0.9	0.3	0.1	0.4	0.1	0.14	0.00	0.1	0.9	1.0	0.8
Totals	13	—	—	92.7	10.8	30.6	41.4	18.5	4.38	4.62	14.1	23.2	1.3	—

 

[PlatypusParticipant]

 

PLAYER	GP	GS	MIN	PPG	OFFR	DEFR	RPG	APG	SPG	BPG	TPG	FPG	A/TO	PER
Kris Humphries, PF	13	6	21.5	7.8	2.0	5.3	7.3	0.6	0.46	1.00	0.7	2.2	0.9	21.0
Derrick Favors, PF	13	0	20.5	7.6	2.7	3.7	6.4	0.2	0.08	0.62	0.8	3.3	0.2	15.8
Brook Lopez, C	13	13	34.7	17.2	2.3	4.0	6.3	1.3	0.46	1.85	2.2	3.8	0.6	15.1
Troy Murphy, PF	5	4	20.4	4.4	1.0	4.2	5.2	1.0	0.40	0.20	1.0	2.2	1.0	4.8
Travis Outlaw, SF	13	13	33.5	12.1	0.8	4.2	5.1	0.8	0.23	0.31	0.8	2.4	1.1	11.9
Terrence Williams, SF	8	0	19.9	6.8	0.3	3.5	3.8	3.0	0.25	0.00	2.5	2.1	1.2	6.5
Anthony Morrow, SG	13	13	33.7	12.2	0.8	2.5	3.3	1.0	0.46	0.23	1.0	2.3	1.0	11.7
Devin Harris, PG	13	13	30.8	16.8	0.2	2.7	2.8	6.8	0.92	0.15	2.8	2.7	2.4	21.6
Jordan Farmar, PG	13	0	22.8	8.7	0.2	2.0	2.2	4.2	1.15	0.00	2.0	1.4	2.1	13.5
Johan Petro, C	11	0	8.2	1.8	0.7	1.5	2.2	0.5	0.18	0.45	0.5	1.4	1.0	9.1
Ben Uzoh, G	1	0	6.0	0.0	1.0	1.0	2.0	0.0	0.00	0.00	0.0	1.0	0.0	6.2
Damion James, SF	7	0	7.9	2.1	0.1	1.0	1.1	0.3	0.00	0.00	0.3	0.4	1.0	3.2
Stephen Graham, SF	7	0	9.0	1.9	0.3	0.7	1.0	1.0	0.14	0.00	0.1	1.3	7.0	4.7
Joe Smith, PF	4	3	6.3	0.5	0.3	0.5	0.8	0.3	0.00	0.00	0.5	0.8	0.5	-3.9
Quinton Ross, SF	7	0	7.3	0.9	0.3	0.1	0.4	0.1	0.14	0.00	0.1	0.9	1.0	0.8
Totals	13	—	—	92.7	10.8	30.6	41.4	18.5	4.38	4.62	14.1	23.2	1.3	—

 

[SteroidParticipant]

I never thought Lopez was a good rebounder for his position. This isn’t surprising to me at all. To say that the team, as a whole, is keeping rebounds from Lopez is not a good excuse. Also, Lopez has never been an efficient scorer for the center position either although he is a talented scorer, but 42% is surprising simply because he is a center.

[SteroidParticipant]

I never thought Lopez was a good rebounder for his position. This isn’t surprising to me at all. To say that the team, as a whole, is keeping rebounds from Lopez is not a good excuse. Also, Lopez has never been an efficient scorer for the center position either although he is a talented scorer, but 42% is surprising simply because he is a center.

[SteroidParticipant]

I never thought Lopez was a good rebounder for his position. This isn’t surprising to me at all. To say that the team, as a whole, is keeping rebounds from Lopez is not a good excuse. Also, Lopez has never been an efficient scorer for the center position either although he is a talented scorer, but 42% is surprising simply because he is a center.

[dannyg219Participant]

more like you saw it on nba tv gametime

[dannyg219Participant]

more like you saw it on nba tv gametime

[dannyg219Participant]

more like you saw it on nba tv gametime

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

"That’s perfectly sensible, but I would not say it’s a non-issue. Lopez is a highly skilled 7-footer playing 35 minutes a night. The fact that he hasn’t put together one double-double is disgraceful, and it’s not like they aded Reggie Evans and P.J. Brown; Humphries has started 14 games in his career (if he was a very good rebounder he would play more, considering he was a lottery pick), Outlaw’s rebounding career high prior to this year was 4.6, and Favors is a rookie. They might be "good" rebounders, but they 3 together are certainly no excuse for Lopez averaging 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes; right now’s it’s Lopez that’s making them look like great rebounders. How can it be a non-issue? I don’t care about Avery Johnson’s "Defensive empahasis" – a rebound is a rebound."

Last year, New Jersey was 28th in rebounding and 27th in rebounding differential. This year, they are right in the middle at 16th and have essentially an even differential (+.2). To say that having better rebounders surrounding him is not an excuse is off. Actually, it isn’t an excuse, it is an explanation, but the point remains that Lopez getting fewer rebounds is not a function of him or the team being worse on the glass but rather the opposite.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

"That’s perfectly sensible, but I would not say it’s a non-issue. Lopez is a highly skilled 7-footer playing 35 minutes a night. The fact that he hasn’t put together one double-double is disgraceful, and it’s not like they aded Reggie Evans and P.J. Brown; Humphries has started 14 games in his career (if he was a very good rebounder he would play more, considering he was a lottery pick), Outlaw’s rebounding career high prior to this year was 4.6, and Favors is a rookie. They might be "good" rebounders, but they 3 together are certainly no excuse for Lopez averaging 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes; right now’s it’s Lopez that’s making them look like great rebounders. How can it be a non-issue? I don’t care about Avery Johnson’s "Defensive empahasis" – a rebound is a rebound."

Last year, New Jersey was 28th in rebounding and 27th in rebounding differential. This year, they are right in the middle at 16th and have essentially an even differential (+.2). To say that having better rebounders surrounding him is not an excuse is off. Actually, it isn’t an excuse, it is an explanation, but the point remains that Lopez getting fewer rebounds is not a function of him or the team being worse on the glass but rather the opposite.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

"That’s perfectly sensible, but I would not say it’s a non-issue. Lopez is a highly skilled 7-footer playing 35 minutes a night. The fact that he hasn’t put together one double-double is disgraceful, and it’s not like they aded Reggie Evans and P.J. Brown; Humphries has started 14 games in his career (if he was a very good rebounder he would play more, considering he was a lottery pick), Outlaw’s rebounding career high prior to this year was 4.6, and Favors is a rookie. They might be "good" rebounders, but they 3 together are certainly no excuse for Lopez averaging 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes; right now’s it’s Lopez that’s making them look like great rebounders. How can it be a non-issue? I don’t care about Avery Johnson’s "Defensive empahasis" – a rebound is a rebound."

Last year, New Jersey was 28th in rebounding and 27th in rebounding differential. This year, they are right in the middle at 16th and have essentially an even differential (+.2). To say that having better rebounders surrounding him is not an excuse is off. Actually, it isn’t an excuse, it is an explanation, but the point remains that Lopez getting fewer rebounds is not a function of him or the team being worse on the glass but rather the opposite.

[JNixonParticipant]

Brook Lopez isn’t a very good rebounder for a 7 foot C BTPH, let’s not make excuses. That’s exactly what it sounds like you’re doing right about now. Humphries, Favors and Outlaw aren’t outstanding rebounders to the point that a good rebounder can’t at least get 9 rebounders with them on the floor with him.

[JNixonParticipant]

Brook Lopez isn’t a very good rebounder for a 7 foot C BTPH, let’s not make excuses. That’s exactly what it sounds like you’re doing right about now. Humphries, Favors and Outlaw aren’t outstanding rebounders to the point that a good rebounder can’t at least get 9 rebounders with them on the floor with him.

[JNixonParticipant]

Brook Lopez isn’t a very good rebounder for a 7 foot C BTPH, let’s not make excuses. That’s exactly what it sounds like you’re doing right about now. Humphries, Favors and Outlaw aren’t outstanding rebounders to the point that a good rebounder can’t at least get 9 rebounders with them on the floor with him.

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

 thank you

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

 thank you

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

 thank you

[stanford hoops]

Agreed. Brook just isn’t a very good rebounder. Rebounding Is a effort thing and he doesn’t put forth the effort that he should. Other good rebounders are good rebounders where ever they go

Rodman
David lee
Ben Wallace
Gasol
Barkley
Zbo
Rasheed
Etc

[stanford hoops]

Agreed. Brook just isn’t a very good rebounder. Rebounding Is a effort thing and he doesn’t put forth the effort that he should. Other good rebounders are good rebounders where ever they go

Rodman
David lee
Ben Wallace
Gasol
Barkley
Zbo
Rasheed
Etc

[stanford hoops]

Agreed. Brook just isn’t a very good rebounder. Rebounding Is a effort thing and he doesn’t put forth the effort that he should. Other good rebounders are good rebounders where ever they go

Rodman
David lee
Ben Wallace
Gasol
Barkley
Zbo
Rasheed
Etc

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

What excuse. Ball goes up off a rim, only one man can come down with it. Who gets it is in part a function of how many people are going for it. The Nets as a team are coming down with more rebounds this year, and that is the story. True story, a team is better on the glass with Derrick Favors, Kris Humphries, and Travis Outlaw than Yi and Jarvis Hayes. Stunning! Why does it matter if Brook Lopez happens to be coming down with fewer of them?

Orlando is one of the best rebounding teams in the league, as they were last year. This year, Dwight Howard’s rebounding numbers are down. Why? More Brandon Bass at the 4 and more Rashard Lewis at the 3. It is a simple redistibution of numbers based on who is on the floor, not anything else. Guess what, when Carlos Boozer gets healthy, Joakim Noah’s rebounding numbers will go down. When Andrew Bynum is healthy, the rebounding numbers of Pau and Odom will go down.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

What excuse. Ball goes up off a rim, only one man can come down with it. Who gets it is in part a function of how many people are going for it. The Nets as a team are coming down with more rebounds this year, and that is the story. True story, a team is better on the glass with Derrick Favors, Kris Humphries, and Travis Outlaw than Yi and Jarvis Hayes. Stunning! Why does it matter if Brook Lopez happens to be coming down with fewer of them?

Orlando is one of the best rebounding teams in the league, as they were last year. This year, Dwight Howard’s rebounding numbers are down. Why? More Brandon Bass at the 4 and more Rashard Lewis at the 3. It is a simple redistibution of numbers based on who is on the floor, not anything else. Guess what, when Carlos Boozer gets healthy, Joakim Noah’s rebounding numbers will go down. When Andrew Bynum is healthy, the rebounding numbers of Pau and Odom will go down.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

What excuse. Ball goes up off a rim, only one man can come down with it. Who gets it is in part a function of how many people are going for it. The Nets as a team are coming down with more rebounds this year, and that is the story. True story, a team is better on the glass with Derrick Favors, Kris Humphries, and Travis Outlaw than Yi and Jarvis Hayes. Stunning! Why does it matter if Brook Lopez happens to be coming down with fewer of them?

Orlando is one of the best rebounding teams in the league, as they were last year. This year, Dwight Howard’s rebounding numbers are down. Why? More Brandon Bass at the 4 and more Rashard Lewis at the 3. It is a simple redistibution of numbers based on who is on the floor, not anything else. Guess what, when Carlos Boozer gets healthy, Joakim Noah’s rebounding numbers will go down. When Andrew Bynum is healthy, the rebounding numbers of Pau and Odom will go down.

[stanford hoops]

Brook should be rebounding more. He should be giving more effort. That’s what rebounding is. So if you are bigger then you’re teammates yet they get more boards you are clearly not giving the effort you should. Reality is brook just isn’t a very good rebounder

[stanford hoops]

Brook should be rebounding more. He should be giving more effort. That’s what rebounding is. So if you are bigger then you’re teammates yet they get more boards you are clearly not giving the effort you should. Reality is brook just isn’t a very good rebounder

[stanford hoops]

Brook should be rebounding more. He should be giving more effort. That’s what rebounding is. So if you are bigger then you’re teammates yet they get more boards you are clearly not giving the effort you should. Reality is brook just isn’t a very good rebounder

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Darn that effort of Brook Lopez and that gargantuan 0.2 offensive rebounds per game he gets fewer than Dwight Howard.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Darn that effort of Brook Lopez and that gargantuan 0.2 offensive rebounds per game he gets fewer than Dwight Howard.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Darn that effort of Brook Lopez and that gargantuan 0.2 offensive rebounds per game he gets fewer than Dwight Howard.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Darn that effort of Brook Lopez and that gargantuan 0.2 offensive rebounds per game he gets fewer than Dwight Howard.

LOL

 

I just think it’s a down rebounding year for Lopez. I agree, this is a way better rebounding team. Humpries, Outlaw, Williams are solid rebounders then add Troy Murphy in the mix, I wouldn’t be surprised he averages 8 rebounds this season.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Darn that effort of Brook Lopez and that gargantuan 0.2 offensive rebounds per game he gets fewer than Dwight Howard.

LOL

 

I just think it’s a down rebounding year for Lopez. I agree, this is a way better rebounding team. Humpries, Outlaw, Williams are solid rebounders then add Troy Murphy in the mix, I wouldn’t be surprised he averages 8 rebounds this season.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Darn that effort of Brook Lopez and that gargantuan 0.2 offensive rebounds per game he gets fewer than Dwight Howard.

LOL

 

I just think it’s a down rebounding year for Lopez. I agree, this is a way better rebounding team. Humpries, Outlaw, Williams are solid rebounders then add Troy Murphy in the mix, I wouldn’t be surprised he averages 8 rebounds this season.

[stanford hoops]

Yeah that would make sense if it was just about offensive rebounds.  If I’m
Not mistaken( maybe I am). But there’s a part called defensive rebounding as well.  Add them together and what do you get?????  Total rebounds

[stanford hoops]

Yeah that would make sense if it was just about offensive rebounds.  If I’m
Not mistaken( maybe I am). But there’s a part called defensive rebounding as well.  Add them together and what do you get?????  Total rebounds

[stanford hoops]

Yeah that would make sense if it was just about offensive rebounds.  If I’m
Not mistaken( maybe I am). But there’s a part called defensive rebounding as well.  Add them together and what do you get?????  Total rebounds

[Providencefriars15Participant]

Brook Lopez is more of a finese player and they surround him with players to balance out the rebounding(favors, humpheries), so no im not that surprised either. I dont think the nets expected him to get over 10 boards a game anyway because of the surrounding players

[Providencefriars15Participant]

Brook Lopez is more of a finese player and they surround him with players to balance out the rebounding(favors, humpheries), so no im not that surprised either. I dont think the nets expected him to get over 10 boards a game anyway because of the surrounding players

[Providencefriars15Participant]

Brook Lopez is more of a finese player and they surround him with players to balance out the rebounding(favors, humpheries), so no im not that surprised either. I dont think the nets expected him to get over 10 boards a game anyway because of the surrounding players

[JNixonParticipant]

The Nets rebound better as a team, but Lopez still is lackluster on the glass. My point is even with increased team rebounds from last year (which honestly isn’t a good barometer, considering the Nets did little to nothing right and had a record that spoke for that) Lopez should be rebounding better than 6.3 per game. That’s an inexcusable number for a big who plays as much as he does, no matter how you spin it.

Also, Dwight Howard playing with Brandon Bass may have brought down his rebounding total, but Howard is still getting 11 rpg aka rebounding at an elite rate.

Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol got 9 and 11 rpg respectively. Aka rebounding at an elite rate.

Brook Lopez last year with Yi and Josh Boone as his frontline mates? 8.7 rpg, still below average for a guy who’s got his size and played 37 mpg. Wouldn’t you say?

[JNixonParticipant]

The Nets rebound better as a team, but Lopez still is lackluster on the glass. My point is even with increased team rebounds from last year (which honestly isn’t a good barometer, considering the Nets did little to nothing right and had a record that spoke for that) Lopez should be rebounding better than 6.3 per game. That’s an inexcusable number for a big who plays as much as he does, no matter how you spin it.

Also, Dwight Howard playing with Brandon Bass may have brought down his rebounding total, but Howard is still getting 11 rpg aka rebounding at an elite rate.

Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol got 9 and 11 rpg respectively. Aka rebounding at an elite rate.

Brook Lopez last year with Yi and Josh Boone as his frontline mates? 8.7 rpg, still below average for a guy who’s got his size and played 37 mpg. Wouldn’t you say?

[JNixonParticipant]

The Nets rebound better as a team, but Lopez still is lackluster on the glass. My point is even with increased team rebounds from last year (which honestly isn’t a good barometer, considering the Nets did little to nothing right and had a record that spoke for that) Lopez should be rebounding better than 6.3 per game. That’s an inexcusable number for a big who plays as much as he does, no matter how you spin it.

Also, Dwight Howard playing with Brandon Bass may have brought down his rebounding total, but Howard is still getting 11 rpg aka rebounding at an elite rate.

Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol got 9 and 11 rpg respectively. Aka rebounding at an elite rate.

Brook Lopez last year with Yi and Josh Boone as his frontline mates? 8.7 rpg, still below average for a guy who’s got his size and played 37 mpg. Wouldn’t you say?

[SteroidParticipant]

Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom pretty, who came off the bench last year, pretty much averaged double doubles along with Gasol, so I don’t think that is a good example.

@BTPH The only reason why Brook Lopez is even close to Dwight Howard in offensive rebounds is because the Nets are ranked 28th in FG% AND Orlando takes less shots than the Nets.

[SteroidParticipant]

Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom pretty, who came off the bench last year, pretty much averaged double doubles along with Gasol, so I don’t think that is a good example.

@BTPH The only reason why Brook Lopez is even close to Dwight Howard in offensive rebounds is because the Nets are ranked 28th in FG% AND Orlando takes less shots than the Nets.

[SteroidParticipant]

Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom pretty, who came off the bench last year, pretty much averaged double doubles along with Gasol, so I don’t think that is a good example.

@BTPH The only reason why Brook Lopez is even close to Dwight Howard in offensive rebounds is because the Nets are ranked 28th in FG% AND Orlando takes less shots than the Nets.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

So when Kevin Garnett went from 13 rebounds per game in Minnesota to in Boston, was that a lack of energy, ability, or desire to rebound the ball at an "elite rate?" Or was that going to a better rebounding team? Hey look, Perkins is out and Garnett’s rebounding numbers are up. He is an elite rate rebounder again? Don’t you have to ask yourself the question why. Also, don’t look at the net numbers for Pau and Odom. Bynum has a huge impact. In the 15 games Pau played in that Bynum didn’t last year, he averaged 13 rebounds per game. In other games, he averaged 10.75.  Odom went from 10.65 w/o Bynum to 9.55 with him. If you want to make some random generalization about elite rate, feel free.

Nobody complained about Lopez as a rebounder last year when that team was getting crushed on a nightly basis. He is the same guy he was then. That is all I have pointed out.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

So when Kevin Garnett went from 13 rebounds per game in Minnesota to in Boston, was that a lack of energy, ability, or desire to rebound the ball at an "elite rate?" Or was that going to a better rebounding team? Hey look, Perkins is out and Garnett’s rebounding numbers are up. He is an elite rate rebounder again? Don’t you have to ask yourself the question why. Also, don’t look at the net numbers for Pau and Odom. Bynum has a huge impact. In the 15 games Pau played in that Bynum didn’t last year, he averaged 13 rebounds per game. In other games, he averaged 10.75.  Odom went from 10.65 w/o Bynum to 9.55 with him. If you want to make some random generalization about elite rate, feel free.

Nobody complained about Lopez as a rebounder last year when that team was getting crushed on a nightly basis. He is the same guy he was then. That is all I have pointed out.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

So when Kevin Garnett went from 13 rebounds per game in Minnesota to in Boston, was that a lack of energy, ability, or desire to rebound the ball at an "elite rate?" Or was that going to a better rebounding team? Hey look, Perkins is out and Garnett’s rebounding numbers are up. He is an elite rate rebounder again? Don’t you have to ask yourself the question why. Also, don’t look at the net numbers for Pau and Odom. Bynum has a huge impact. In the 15 games Pau played in that Bynum didn’t last year, he averaged 13 rebounds per game. In other games, he averaged 10.75.  Odom went from 10.65 w/o Bynum to 9.55 with him. If you want to make some random generalization about elite rate, feel free.

Nobody complained about Lopez as a rebounder last year when that team was getting crushed on a nightly basis. He is the same guy he was then. That is all I have pointed out.

[JNixonParticipant]

"So when Kevin Garnett went from 13 rebounds per game in Minnesota to in Boston, was that a lack of energy, ability, or desire to rebound the ball at an "elite rate?" Or was that going to a better rebounding team? Hey look, Perkins is out and Garnett’s rebounding numbers are up. He is an elite rate rebounder again?"

Kevin Garnett has averaged 8.6 rpg when playing beside Kendrick Perkins, while also playing right at 30 mpg. Brook Lopez has averaged 35 mpg in his 3 seasons in the NBA and has managed to get at least 8.6 rebounds just once, and those numbers were inflated due to playing alongside the mediocre to poor rebounders that are Yi and Josh Boone. Brook Lopez wouldn’t have averaged 13 rpg playing in Minnesota, so in essense, that point is invalid.

"Nobody complained about Lopez as a rebounder last year when that team was getting crushed on a nightly basis. He is the same guy he was then. That is all I have pointed out."

Nobody bragged about it either. His mediocre rebounding was just a fraction of the problem, and it was unsold due to the fact that the Nets record was much more catching to the eyes of fans. But when one looks in depth and actually discusses Lopez like this topic was intended to do, you begin to realize just what type of rebounder he is. Which is lackluster for his size. He has proven that he is, no matter if he’s playing with Yi and Boone, or with Humphries, Favors, and Travis Outlaw.

[JNixonParticipant]

"So when Kevin Garnett went from 13 rebounds per game in Minnesota to in Boston, was that a lack of energy, ability, or desire to rebound the ball at an "elite rate?" Or was that going to a better rebounding team? Hey look, Perkins is out and Garnett’s rebounding numbers are up. He is an elite rate rebounder again?"

Kevin Garnett has averaged 8.6 rpg when playing beside Kendrick Perkins, while also playing right at 30 mpg. Brook Lopez has averaged 35 mpg in his 3 seasons in the NBA and has managed to get at least 8.6 rebounds just once, and those numbers were inflated due to playing alongside the mediocre to poor rebounders that are Yi and Josh Boone. Brook Lopez wouldn’t have averaged 13 rpg playing in Minnesota, so in essense, that point is invalid.

"Nobody complained about Lopez as a rebounder last year when that team was getting crushed on a nightly basis. He is the same guy he was then. That is all I have pointed out."

Nobody bragged about it either. His mediocre rebounding was just a fraction of the problem, and it was unsold due to the fact that the Nets record was much more catching to the eyes of fans. But when one looks in depth and actually discusses Lopez like this topic was intended to do, you begin to realize just what type of rebounder he is. Which is lackluster for his size. He has proven that he is, no matter if he’s playing with Yi and Boone, or with Humphries, Favors, and Travis Outlaw.

[JNixonParticipant]

"So when Kevin Garnett went from 13 rebounds per game in Minnesota to in Boston, was that a lack of energy, ability, or desire to rebound the ball at an "elite rate?" Or was that going to a better rebounding team? Hey look, Perkins is out and Garnett’s rebounding numbers are up. He is an elite rate rebounder again?"

Kevin Garnett has averaged 8.6 rpg when playing beside Kendrick Perkins, while also playing right at 30 mpg. Brook Lopez has averaged 35 mpg in his 3 seasons in the NBA and has managed to get at least 8.6 rebounds just once, and those numbers were inflated due to playing alongside the mediocre to poor rebounders that are Yi and Josh Boone. Brook Lopez wouldn’t have averaged 13 rpg playing in Minnesota, so in essense, that point is invalid.

"Nobody complained about Lopez as a rebounder last year when that team was getting crushed on a nightly basis. He is the same guy he was then. That is all I have pointed out."

Nobody bragged about it either. His mediocre rebounding was just a fraction of the problem, and it was unsold due to the fact that the Nets record was much more catching to the eyes of fans. But when one looks in depth and actually discusses Lopez like this topic was intended to do, you begin to realize just what type of rebounder he is. Which is lackluster for his size. He has proven that he is, no matter if he’s playing with Yi and Boone, or with Humphries, Favors, and Travis Outlaw.

[SteroidParticipant]

The biggest factor in Garnett’s numbers going down when he went to Boston is because he playing considerably less minutes than what he used to play in Minnesota (from a ridiculous 38-40mpg at minny to 30-33mpg at Boston), not that Boston was a better rebounding team, which played somewhat of a part, but not much at all because his reb per 36 was pretty much 12 per game at Boston before he got hurt, which is the almost the same rate  he was pulling per 36 mins at Minny. Lets not forget age also plays a factor too, so his rebounding rate was going to go down sooner or later. Also It would be unfair to Garnett to compare his self  now to his ability to hustle and other intanglibles he had before he got hurt. Not saying he doesn’t have those intagibles anymore, but having good knees and athleticism plays a big part in being able to jump and hustle for rebounds, which is a huge part of KG’s game.

Like I said, personally, I’ve always thought he he was a below average rebounder for a C. Even last year with all the minutes he played, which a fraction was meaningless garbage time against opposing bench players that contributed to his reb last year, I mentioned his relatively weak rebounding on the forum.

[SteroidParticipant]

The biggest factor in Garnett’s numbers going down when he went to Boston is because he playing considerably less minutes than what he used to play in Minnesota (from a ridiculous 38-40mpg at minny to 30-33mpg at Boston), not that Boston was a better rebounding team, which played somewhat of a part, but not much at all because his reb per 36 was pretty much 12 per game at Boston before he got hurt, which is the almost the same rate  he was pulling per 36 mins at Minny. Lets not forget age also plays a factor too, so his rebounding rate was going to go down sooner or later. Also It would be unfair to Garnett to compare his self  now to his ability to hustle and other intanglibles he had before he got hurt. Not saying he doesn’t have those intagibles anymore, but having good knees and athleticism plays a big part in being able to jump and hustle for rebounds, which is a huge part of KG’s game.

Like I said, personally, I’ve always thought he he was a below average rebounder for a C. Even last year with all the minutes he played, which a fraction was meaningless garbage time against opposing bench players that contributed to his reb last year, I mentioned his relatively weak rebounding on the forum.

[SteroidParticipant]

The biggest factor in Garnett’s numbers going down when he went to Boston is because he playing considerably less minutes than what he used to play in Minnesota (from a ridiculous 38-40mpg at minny to 30-33mpg at Boston), not that Boston was a better rebounding team, which played somewhat of a part, but not much at all because his reb per 36 was pretty much 12 per game at Boston before he got hurt, which is the almost the same rate  he was pulling per 36 mins at Minny. Lets not forget age also plays a factor too, so his rebounding rate was going to go down sooner or later. Also It would be unfair to Garnett to compare his self  now to his ability to hustle and other intanglibles he had before he got hurt. Not saying he doesn’t have those intagibles anymore, but having good knees and athleticism plays a big part in being able to jump and hustle for rebounds, which is a huge part of KG’s game.

Like I said, personally, I’ve always thought he he was a below average rebounder for a C. Even last year with all the minutes he played, which a fraction was meaningless garbage time against opposing bench players that contributed to his reb last year, I mentioned his relatively weak rebounding on the forum.

[stanford hoops]

The fact is he’s not a good rebounder. 6reb per game is good for a small forward not a center. If his rebounds dropped from 11 to 9 or 8  while his pf was getting 11 or 12 then you have a case. But it’s not like outlaw is gereld Wallace and humpries is Kevin love. No matter how you spin it 6 reb is not good for a starting center who plays the minutes that he does. He’s still a good player but he’s a below average rebounder right now.  He’s dead last when you look at how many rebounds he averages compared to the minutes he plays. You know who’s just a head of him at .4 less minutes???  Bargnani. And he’s known to be considered a bad rebounder and he has Evans on his team

If you don’t look at minutes lopez is ranked 20th. Average would be 15th so that would put him at below average.  It probably wouldn’t be a issue if the team was winning or if the team wasn’t slightly below average rebounding team

[stanford hoops]

The fact is he’s not a good rebounder. 6reb per game is good for a small forward not a center. If his rebounds dropped from 11 to 9 or 8  while his pf was getting 11 or 12 then you have a case. But it’s not like outlaw is gereld Wallace and humpries is Kevin love. No matter how you spin it 6 reb is not good for a starting center who plays the minutes that he does. He’s still a good player but he’s a below average rebounder right now.  He’s dead last when you look at how many rebounds he averages compared to the minutes he plays. You know who’s just a head of him at .4 less minutes???  Bargnani. And he’s known to be considered a bad rebounder and he has Evans on his team

If you don’t look at minutes lopez is ranked 20th. Average would be 15th so that would put him at below average.  It probably wouldn’t be a issue if the team was winning or if the team wasn’t slightly below average rebounding team

[stanford hoops]

The fact is he’s not a good rebounder. 6reb per game is good for a small forward not a center. If his rebounds dropped from 11 to 9 or 8  while his pf was getting 11 or 12 then you have a case. But it’s not like outlaw is gereld Wallace and humpries is Kevin love. No matter how you spin it 6 reb is not good for a starting center who plays the minutes that he does. He’s still a good player but he’s a below average rebounder right now.  He’s dead last when you look at how many rebounds he averages compared to the minutes he plays. You know who’s just a head of him at .4 less minutes???  Bargnani. And he’s known to be considered a bad rebounder and he has Evans on his team

If you don’t look at minutes lopez is ranked 20th. Average would be 15th so that would put him at below average.  It probably wouldn’t be a issue if the team was winning or if the team wasn’t slightly below average rebounding team

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

It is valid. Well run basketball teams aren’t built to get guys numbers, which is a constant fallacy I point out when people are praising or being critical of players without context. Brook Lopez is a heavy-legged center. Nobody denies that. He doesn’t fly around and track down boards like Joakim Noah. He is a positional rebounder. He isn’t a minus rebounder, he gets what comes to his area. He’ll go to the offensive glass. I don’t see why anyone would get hung up on his decline, especially when the bulk of the decline is defensive rebound, when the end product of the team’s rebounding is better.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

It is valid. Well run basketball teams aren’t built to get guys numbers, which is a constant fallacy I point out when people are praising or being critical of players without context. Brook Lopez is a heavy-legged center. Nobody denies that. He doesn’t fly around and track down boards like Joakim Noah. He is a positional rebounder. He isn’t a minus rebounder, he gets what comes to his area. He’ll go to the offensive glass. I don’t see why anyone would get hung up on his decline, especially when the bulk of the decline is defensive rebound, when the end product of the team’s rebounding is better.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

It is valid. Well run basketball teams aren’t built to get guys numbers, which is a constant fallacy I point out when people are praising or being critical of players without context. Brook Lopez is a heavy-legged center. Nobody denies that. He doesn’t fly around and track down boards like Joakim Noah. He is a positional rebounder. He isn’t a minus rebounder, he gets what comes to his area. He’ll go to the offensive glass. I don’t see why anyone would get hung up on his decline, especially when the bulk of the decline is defensive rebound, when the end product of the team’s rebounding is better.

[stanford hoops]

The nets are averaging 1more rebound per game then they were last year

[stanford hoops]

The nets are averaging 1more rebound per game then they were last year

[stanford hoops]

The nets are averaging 1more rebound per game then they were last year

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