[d-grizzlyParticipant]

I’m going to cut right to the point on this one. I strongly believe that keeping Gasol and Mayo over Randolph would be the right thing to do.

 

Gasol has a future in this league. He’s still developing and plays good in the paint and on occasion can hit a jumper. He rebounds decently, but is not an elite rebounder. His passing ability is often overlooked and it’s rare to find a big man that can make a nice pass. His defense? Well, he can get a steal and a block per game, but the pick and roll seems to get him and zbo. Also, he is no lockdown defender but on occasion plays really good d. His d can use some work and I’m a believer that in time, his d will be fine. Plus…HE’S YOUNG…..

Mayo. He is a working progress. He hasn’t lived up to some of the comparisons I’ve seen. I’m not sure if he’ll ever live up to a billups…or ray allen….or kobe….or penny hardaway comparison… I just don’t see him being that good. However, I can see him becoming his own style. Grizzly fans are eager to see him develop his penetration to the basket and finish ability…. Also, maybe he could get in the gym and bulk up…..JUST A LITTLE….please. He gets bullied by wade, kobe, roy, j.johnson….and especially jason richardson…that .4 left ally oop gives me nightmares…. He is not an outstanding passer or creater. Most assists I see from him come on the fastbreak and I’d rather see him be the 2nd creator for the Grizz. Trust me, it’s gonna take time for Mayo to morph into something. 18ppg-4rpg-5apg seems to be an achievable consistant stat line in a few years from now. For now, expect 16-17ppg, 3rpg, 3.5apg with average shooting %. I say keep him and remember he’s only going to get better.

 

I like Randolph. I really do. My problem is he’s not getting any younger and he’s entering his 30’s. I’ve never really seen him lockdown an opponent during his stay with the Grizzlies. Sure, he’s a double double guy, but if he played good defense, it’d be much easier to say this guy needs to be kept. He’s not athletic and he’s not fast. As you get older…BOTH of those factors seem to decline. Zbo at age 34 makes me >< my eyes at the thought of him making 12-15 million but barely keeping up with the players up and down the court.

[JoeWolf1]

Arthur is a viable replacement for Randolph, at the moment.  Randolph has exceeded all expectations I had for him, especially at this point of his career, but Darrell Arthur is a servicable starting power forward for a team that boasts Mayo and Gay on the wings and Gasol in the post.

I think trading Randolph, despite his prowess, is the right move considering that the Grizzlies money is stretched thin with Gay and Conley’s extentions.

[JoeWolf1]

Arthur is a viable replacement for Randolph, at the moment.  Randolph has exceeded all expectations I had for him, especially at this point of his career, but Darrell Arthur is a servicable starting power forward for a team that boasts Mayo and Gay on the wings and Gasol in the post.

I think trading Randolph, despite his prowess, is the right move considering that the Grizzlies money is stretched thin with Gay and Conley’s extentions.

[JoeWolf1]

Arthur is a viable replacement for Randolph, at the moment.  Randolph has exceeded all expectations I had for him, especially at this point of his career, but Darrell Arthur is a servicable starting power forward for a team that boasts Mayo and Gay on the wings and Gasol in the post.

I think trading Randolph, despite his prowess, is the right move considering that the Grizzlies money is stretched thin with Gay and Conley’s extentions.

[d-grizzlyParticipant]

if the grizz were to trade randolph, i’d like a replacement for him in return. Arthur would be a temp. fix until the grizz could find another pf. arthur, at best is a role player of the bench.

[d-grizzlyParticipant]

if the grizz were to trade randolph, i’d like a replacement for him in return. Arthur would be a temp. fix until the grizz could find another pf. arthur, at best is a role player of the bench.

[d-grizzlyParticipant]

if the grizz were to trade randolph, i’d like a replacement for him in return. Arthur would be a temp. fix until the grizz could find another pf. arthur, at best is a role player of the bench.

[JoeWolf1]

If Arthur was a better rebounder I think he would fit well with that team as a starter, but I agree he is best suited for an offensive spark as a post player.   He sported 14 ppg and 5 rpg as a starter, but I feel any starting power forward should produce at least 8 rpg in today’s game.  To me, he is kind of an enigma due to the fact he is a very effictive player without being a great rebounder, he was like that in college too, but I feel the Grizzlies in a trade scenario lack most in backup point guard and unfortunately in backup center ( I was pulling for Thabeet)

[JoeWolf1]

If Arthur was a better rebounder I think he would fit well with that team as a starter, but I agree he is best suited for an offensive spark as a post player.   He sported 14 ppg and 5 rpg as a starter, but I feel any starting power forward should produce at least 8 rpg in today’s game.  To me, he is kind of an enigma due to the fact he is a very effictive player without being a great rebounder, he was like that in college too, but I feel the Grizzlies in a trade scenario lack most in backup point guard and unfortunately in backup center ( I was pulling for Thabeet)

[JoeWolf1]

If Arthur was a better rebounder I think he would fit well with that team as a starter, but I agree he is best suited for an offensive spark as a post player.   He sported 14 ppg and 5 rpg as a starter, but I feel any starting power forward should produce at least 8 rpg in today’s game.  To me, he is kind of an enigma due to the fact he is a very effictive player without being a great rebounder, he was like that in college too, but I feel the Grizzlies in a trade scenario lack most in backup point guard and unfortunately in backup center ( I was pulling for Thabeet)

[esperanzafleet69Participant]

you dont seem to get it… post defenders are WAY easier to find than a 20/10 player who commands doubles and frees wing players with the double team… look at the pistons for proof…

[esperanzafleet69Participant]

you dont seem to get it… post defenders are WAY easier to find than a 20/10 player who commands doubles and frees wing players with the double team… look at the pistons for proof…

[esperanzafleet69Participant]

you dont seem to get it… post defenders are WAY easier to find than a 20/10 player who commands doubles and frees wing players with the double team… look at the pistons for proof…

[omphalosParticipant]

If Gasol keeps slimming down is there any reason he can’t be moved to the 4 spot and have Thabeet at the 5. Hopefully Thabeet will be ready to start sooner rather than later. Plus, watching the Gasol brothers against each other would be great.

[omphalosParticipant]

If Gasol keeps slimming down is there any reason he can’t be moved to the 4 spot and have Thabeet at the 5. Hopefully Thabeet will be ready to start sooner rather than later. Plus, watching the Gasol brothers against each other would be great.

[omphalosParticipant]

If Gasol keeps slimming down is there any reason he can’t be moved to the 4 spot and have Thabeet at the 5. Hopefully Thabeet will be ready to start sooner rather than later. Plus, watching the Gasol brothers against each other would be great.

[franfranParticipant]

 trade Mayo please

[franfranParticipant]

 trade Mayo please

[franfranParticipant]

 trade Mayo please

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

i think that was the plan when the grizz drafted thabeet was to have and gasol play together zbo is the odd guy out in this situation i say trade him rather then just letting him go in fa they arent gonna be able to afford to re up everyone

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

i think that was the plan when the grizz drafted thabeet was to have and gasol play together zbo is the odd guy out in this situation i say trade him rather then just letting him go in fa they arent gonna be able to afford to re up everyone

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

i think that was the plan when the grizz drafted thabeet was to have and gasol play together zbo is the odd guy out in this situation i say trade him rather then just letting him go in fa they arent gonna be able to afford to re up everyone

[torukParticipant]

 try to get some talent back. another pg,  somebody to score of the bench, some young talent and expiring contracts. Don`t let him go for nothing.

[torukParticipant]

 try to get some talent back. another pg,  somebody to score of the bench, some young talent and expiring contracts. Don`t let him go for nothing.

[torukParticipant]

 try to get some talent back. another pg,  somebody to score of the bench, some young talent and expiring contracts. Don`t let him go for nothing.

[HitsterParticipant]

With Conley’s new contract added in them Memphis are around $42 million on their cap for next year, looking at the ball park figures for a starting big man of Gasol’s skillset then I’d guess as a minimum that he’d get $8 million next season possibly more if he signed a contract elsewhere and Memphis had to match. Remember the front loaded deal that Paul Millsap signed with Portland which Utah matched and then had to make sacrifices to keep their luxury tax level down for example.

Mayo’s renewal would probably be at a similar level to Gasol’s and further down the line Thabeet would command a hefty qualifying offer. That may well leave Z-Bo as the odd man out as Memphis have all the rest of the roster to pay and aren’t a huge franchise and haven’t had play off revenue for coming up to 5 years so would surely be loathe to start paying luxury tax. Z-Bo has made a positive impression in Memphis but giving him a large 5 year deal could haunt them longer term. They could give him a front loaded 3 year deal which they could run alongside Mayo and Thabeet’s remaining years on their rookie deals but Z-Bo as he is 30 next year would surely want a longer deal as it may well be his last chance to get the security of a long term pay day. Memphis might have the option of offering him a lower deal over 5 years but I’d guess that Z-Bo would not consider taking too big a cut from his current $17.33 pay this season. If you started it at say $14 million next season and it declined by a $1 million a year over 5 years you would still have Z-Bo on $60 million over 5 years which would be a hefty amount.

Z-Bo I’d guess will test the FA waters and see what interest he gets so Memphis might be able to do and S and T which would give Z-Bo a better deal and they would probably demand something in return. 

[HitsterParticipant]

With Conley’s new contract added in them Memphis are around $42 million on their cap for next year, looking at the ball park figures for a starting big man of Gasol’s skillset then I’d guess as a minimum that he’d get $8 million next season possibly more if he signed a contract elsewhere and Memphis had to match. Remember the front loaded deal that Paul Millsap signed with Portland which Utah matched and then had to make sacrifices to keep their luxury tax level down for example.

Mayo’s renewal would probably be at a similar level to Gasol’s and further down the line Thabeet would command a hefty qualifying offer. That may well leave Z-Bo as the odd man out as Memphis have all the rest of the roster to pay and aren’t a huge franchise and haven’t had play off revenue for coming up to 5 years so would surely be loathe to start paying luxury tax. Z-Bo has made a positive impression in Memphis but giving him a large 5 year deal could haunt them longer term. They could give him a front loaded 3 year deal which they could run alongside Mayo and Thabeet’s remaining years on their rookie deals but Z-Bo as he is 30 next year would surely want a longer deal as it may well be his last chance to get the security of a long term pay day. Memphis might have the option of offering him a lower deal over 5 years but I’d guess that Z-Bo would not consider taking too big a cut from his current $17.33 pay this season. If you started it at say $14 million next season and it declined by a $1 million a year over 5 years you would still have Z-Bo on $60 million over 5 years which would be a hefty amount.

Z-Bo I’d guess will test the FA waters and see what interest he gets so Memphis might be able to do and S and T which would give Z-Bo a better deal and they would probably demand something in return. 

[HitsterParticipant]

With Conley’s new contract added in them Memphis are around $42 million on their cap for next year, looking at the ball park figures for a starting big man of Gasol’s skillset then I’d guess as a minimum that he’d get $8 million next season possibly more if he signed a contract elsewhere and Memphis had to match. Remember the front loaded deal that Paul Millsap signed with Portland which Utah matched and then had to make sacrifices to keep their luxury tax level down for example.

Mayo’s renewal would probably be at a similar level to Gasol’s and further down the line Thabeet would command a hefty qualifying offer. That may well leave Z-Bo as the odd man out as Memphis have all the rest of the roster to pay and aren’t a huge franchise and haven’t had play off revenue for coming up to 5 years so would surely be loathe to start paying luxury tax. Z-Bo has made a positive impression in Memphis but giving him a large 5 year deal could haunt them longer term. They could give him a front loaded 3 year deal which they could run alongside Mayo and Thabeet’s remaining years on their rookie deals but Z-Bo as he is 30 next year would surely want a longer deal as it may well be his last chance to get the security of a long term pay day. Memphis might have the option of offering him a lower deal over 5 years but I’d guess that Z-Bo would not consider taking too big a cut from his current $17.33 pay this season. If you started it at say $14 million next season and it declined by a $1 million a year over 5 years you would still have Z-Bo on $60 million over 5 years which would be a hefty amount.

Z-Bo I’d guess will test the FA waters and see what interest he gets so Memphis might be able to do and S and T which would give Z-Bo a better deal and they would probably demand something in return. 

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

I agree. With Mayo’s work ethic and professionalism you want to keep him around. His game has stagnated since his rookie year because of Randolph’s arrival when many people thought he might be ready to make that leap into one of the league’s elite 2 guards.

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

I agree. With Mayo’s work ethic and professionalism you want to keep him around. His game has stagnated since his rookie year because of Randolph’s arrival when many people thought he might be ready to make that leap into one of the league’s elite 2 guards.

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

I agree. With Mayo’s work ethic and professionalism you want to keep him around. His game has stagnated since his rookie year because of Randolph’s arrival when many people thought he might be ready to make that leap into one of the league’s elite 2 guards.

[TooNice4TVParticipant]

 Mayo is in the same situation as Beasley. He can’t flourish due to the players that are already top options. I believe that they should have kept Love, and the t-wolves should have kept OJ. Would be a better line-up right now for both squads.

PG Conley
SG Henry
SF Gay
PF Love
C Gasol

PG Flynn
SG Mayo
SF Johnson
PF Beasley
C Darko

But that’s just my opinion.. the grizzlies are headed in the right direction right now due to Rudy Gay and Conley stepping their game up this year. They need Gasol and Mayo to pick it up a notch for them to make the playoffs in the West.

[TooNice4TVParticipant]

 Mayo is in the same situation as Beasley. He can’t flourish due to the players that are already top options. I believe that they should have kept Love, and the t-wolves should have kept OJ. Would be a better line-up right now for both squads.

PG Conley
SG Henry
SF Gay
PF Love
C Gasol

PG Flynn
SG Mayo
SF Johnson
PF Beasley
C Darko

But that’s just my opinion.. the grizzlies are headed in the right direction right now due to Rudy Gay and Conley stepping their game up this year. They need Gasol and Mayo to pick it up a notch for them to make the playoffs in the West.

[TooNice4TVParticipant]

 Mayo is in the same situation as Beasley. He can’t flourish due to the players that are already top options. I believe that they should have kept Love, and the t-wolves should have kept OJ. Would be a better line-up right now for both squads.

PG Conley
SG Henry
SF Gay
PF Love
C Gasol

PG Flynn
SG Mayo
SF Johnson
PF Beasley
C Darko

But that’s just my opinion.. the grizzlies are headed in the right direction right now due to Rudy Gay and Conley stepping their game up this year. They need Gasol and Mayo to pick it up a notch for them to make the playoffs in the West.

[T-Wolvesfan13Participant]

Beasley is scoring 22 points a game! How is he not doing well? And for the last fliping time he is a freaking SF! He has played barely any time as a PF. And he is scoring all his points as a SF. And having Love and Gasol would not be a very good combo. Neither are very good defenders and they pretty much do the same thing. Neither is all that fast or athletic. So sorry but i dont think either team would of been better if they would of kept there guy.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

I think that the other guy was talking about the situation that Beasley was in with Miami not with Minnesota. Your boys Kevin Love and Beasley are going off right now. Too bad they haven’t won that many games yet though.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

I think that the other guy was talking about the situation that Beasley was in with Miami not with Minnesota. Your boys Kevin Love and Beasley are going off right now. Too bad they haven’t won that many games yet though.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

I think that the other guy was talking about the situation that Beasley was in with Miami not with Minnesota. Your boys Kevin Love and Beasley are going off right now. Too bad they haven’t won that many games yet though.

[T-Wolvesfan13Participant]

Beasley is scoring 22 points a game! How is he not doing well? And for the last fliping time he is a freaking SF! He has played barely any time as a PF. And he is scoring all his points as a SF. And having Love and Gasol would not be a very good combo. Neither are very good defenders and they pretty much do the same thing. Neither is all that fast or athletic. So sorry but i dont think either team would of been better if they would of kept there guy.

[T-Wolvesfan13Participant]

Beasley is scoring 22 points a game! How is he not doing well? And for the last fliping time he is a freaking SF! He has played barely any time as a PF. And he is scoring all his points as a SF. And having Love and Gasol would not be a very good combo. Neither are very good defenders and they pretty much do the same thing. Neither is all that fast or athletic. So sorry but i dont think either team would of been better if they would of kept there guy.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

He has to go, and is very overrated. Get something for him now. Mayo is not the scorer that Beasley is. He is a shaky outside shooter who does not really attack the rim much at all. He was suppose to be athletic,but we don’t ever see him banging on guys as much as Rondo or Rose and he is bigger than they are. Is unsure if he wants to distribute or score and does not fit on that squad.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

OJ doesn’t fit on that team in my opinion. If he was on another team he could definitely average at least 20 ppg and 4 or 5 apg. But, on the Grizzlies he is used in a Ray Allen/ Rip Hamilton type role. It’s a role he’s not comfortable with. He has a good outside jumper it’s not shaky. But, he isn’t on the level of Ray and Rip in terms of shooting yet. Coming off of screens and catching and shooting the ball isn’t his skillset. I think that OJ is on his way out in Memphis. Not really his fault but, his skill set doesn’t fit what Lionel Hollins wants at the 2. He wants pure jumpshooters. That is why Xavier Henry was drafted. Once he’s ready OJ is getting benched or getting traded.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

OJ doesn’t fit on that team in my opinion. If he was on another team he could definitely average at least 20 ppg and 4 or 5 apg. But, on the Grizzlies he is used in a Ray Allen/ Rip Hamilton type role. It’s a role he’s not comfortable with. He has a good outside jumper it’s not shaky. But, he isn’t on the level of Ray and Rip in terms of shooting yet. Coming off of screens and catching and shooting the ball isn’t his skillset. I think that OJ is on his way out in Memphis. Not really his fault but, his skill set doesn’t fit what Lionel Hollins wants at the 2. He wants pure jumpshooters. That is why Xavier Henry was drafted. Once he’s ready OJ is getting benched or getting traded.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

OJ doesn’t fit on that team in my opinion. If he was on another team he could definitely average at least 20 ppg and 4 or 5 apg. But, on the Grizzlies he is used in a Ray Allen/ Rip Hamilton type role. It’s a role he’s not comfortable with. He has a good outside jumper it’s not shaky. But, he isn’t on the level of Ray and Rip in terms of shooting yet. Coming off of screens and catching and shooting the ball isn’t his skillset. I think that OJ is on his way out in Memphis. Not really his fault but, his skill set doesn’t fit what Lionel Hollins wants at the 2. He wants pure jumpshooters. That is why Xavier Henry was drafted. Once he’s ready OJ is getting benched or getting traded.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

He has to go, and is very overrated. Get something for him now. Mayo is not the scorer that Beasley is. He is a shaky outside shooter who does not really attack the rim much at all. He was suppose to be athletic,but we don’t ever see him banging on guys as much as Rondo or Rose and he is bigger than they are. Is unsure if he wants to distribute or score and does not fit on that squad.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

He has to go, and is very overrated. Get something for him now. Mayo is not the scorer that Beasley is. He is a shaky outside shooter who does not really attack the rim much at all. He was suppose to be athletic,but we don’t ever see him banging on guys as much as Rondo or Rose and he is bigger than they are. Is unsure if he wants to distribute or score and does not fit on that squad.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

My team is the Celtics and yeah I know he was talking about the Miami situation I’m saying Mayo is not the scorer Beasley is period. He can go to another team and he still will not be as explosive a scorer as Beasley is. Thats my point.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

That comment was meant for the T-Wolves fan. But, with your opinions on OJ that’s your opinion. I actually watch the Grizz games so I think I know more.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

That comment was meant for the T-Wolves fan. But, with your opinions on OJ that’s your opinion. I actually watch the Grizz games so I think I know more.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

That comment was meant for the T-Wolves fan. But, with your opinions on OJ that’s your opinion. I actually watch the Grizz games so I think I know more.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

My team is the Celtics and yeah I know he was talking about the Miami situation I’m saying Mayo is not the scorer Beasley is period. He can go to another team and he still will not be as explosive a scorer as Beasley is. Thats my point.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

My team is the Celtics and yeah I know he was talking about the Miami situation I’m saying Mayo is not the scorer Beasley is period. He can go to another team and he still will not be as explosive a scorer as Beasley is. Thats my point.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Mayo still has to go.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

I would think that maybe we could bring him off the bench as a super-sub like Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, and Manu Ginobli. But, if he does get traded I hope we don’t trade him somewhere stupid like Miami or Los Angeles. If either of those teams got OJ they are gonna rule the league for the next few years.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

I would think that maybe we could bring him off the bench as a super-sub like Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, and Manu Ginobli. But, if he does get traded I hope we don’t trade him somewhere stupid like Miami or Los Angeles. If either of those teams got OJ they are gonna rule the league for the next few years.

[Memphisboy14Participant]

I would think that maybe we could bring him off the bench as a super-sub like Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, and Manu Ginobli. But, if he does get traded I hope we don’t trade him somewhere stupid like Miami or Los Angeles. If either of those teams got OJ they are gonna rule the league for the next few years.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Mayo still has to go.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Mayo still has to go.

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