[FutureNBAGMParticipant]

Some people say he’s worth a max contract, but I think that’s highly debatable. And also, what do they define as "max"? For example, I’m hearing Gordon Hayward is getting offered a max deal by Cleveland but the numbers of it are nowhere near John Wall’s "max" deal with Washington. Anyway, just wondering, in your opinion, how big of a contract would YOU give him?(years/$$$)

[HitsterParticipant]

 Derrick Favours from the same draft got $49 million over 4 years and Larry Sanders got $44 million over 4 years and I think it is fair to say that Monroe is more established than they are at this moment. So I’d say his starting level would be $50 million over 4 years more realistically in the $52 to $54 million range.

Don’t forget that DMC at the Kings got just under $60 million over 4 years and his production is way ahead of Monroe’s so any offers near that level may be excessive. But that is not to say that some team will decide to make him a near max offer.

 

[earldaniel31Participant]

DMC got a max deal.. instead of the full 5-years he opted for only 4

[earldaniel31Participant]

DMC got a max deal.. instead of the full 5-years he opted for only 4

[HitsterParticipant]

 Derrick Favours from the same draft got $49 million over 4 years and Larry Sanders got $44 million over 4 years and I think it is fair to say that Monroe is more established than they are at this moment. So I’d say his starting level would be $50 million over 4 years more realistically in the $52 to $54 million range.

Don’t forget that DMC at the Kings got just under $60 million over 4 years and his production is way ahead of Monroe’s so any offers near that level may be excessive. But that is not to say that some team will decide to make him a near max offer.

 

[doubledribblerParticipant]

I wouldn’t regret giving him 7 maybe 8 a year for 3-4 years. He would laugh at me then go sign somewhere else for more then I would laugh at that team as they try to figure out a way to get rid of his contract. 

[doubledribblerParticipant]

I wouldn’t regret giving him 7 maybe 8 a year for 3-4 years. He would laugh at me then go sign somewhere else for more then I would laugh at that team as they try to figure out a way to get rid of his contract. 

[[email protected]Participant]

the one Hayward can get is only 22-25% of salary cap, in the 14-18mil range.

The other is the Rose Rule, which allows a player who makes All-Star Games, MVPs, and other awards to get 30-33% of the cap to around 18-20mil max like Kyrie’s.

Those 2 are both for players coming off rookie deals, the 3rd is a vet MAX(meaning the players 3rd contract) like LeBron can get which is like a up to a 10% increase on there last deal.

You can look up the actual dollar value, but that’s pretty close.

[[email protected]Participant]

the one Hayward can get is only 22-25% of salary cap, in the 14-18mil range.

The other is the Rose Rule, which allows a player who makes All-Star Games, MVPs, and other awards to get 30-33% of the cap to around 18-20mil max like Kyrie’s.

Those 2 are both for players coming off rookie deals, the 3rd is a vet MAX(meaning the players 3rd contract) like LeBron can get which is like a up to a 10% increase on there last deal.

You can look up the actual dollar value, but that’s pretty close.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

The value of Monroe comes in part because of his unselfish play and reliability. He doesn’t whine about touches. There are no "my turn" possessions. He has played in all but three games in his first four seasons, which has to be a factor when dealing with guys who are that size. I do not think Stan Van Gundy wants to see him go, and the Monroe/Drummond pairing can work with the proper fits around them. If a team wants to pry him loose this summer, it will probably have to be a max or near max deal. Otherwise, Detroit probably will match. If a team wants to make sure the Knicks don’t get him next summer (and I think he is the exact kind of big man Phil Jackson wants), they better get him this year. The picture for big men as I see it is that the past two drafts (where big men have been severely lacking) and the teams who have battled the Heat and Thunder well have really elevated the price of skilled size (heaven forbid valuing the unselfish players catches on too). Not only that, but with Monroe, we are talking about one who just turned 24 years old.  

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

The value of Monroe comes in part because of his unselfish play and reliability. He doesn’t whine about touches. There are no "my turn" possessions. He has played in all but three games in his first four seasons, which has to be a factor when dealing with guys who are that size. I do not think Stan Van Gundy wants to see him go, and the Monroe/Drummond pairing can work with the proper fits around them. If a team wants to pry him loose this summer, it will probably have to be a max or near max deal. Otherwise, Detroit probably will match. If a team wants to make sure the Knicks don’t get him next summer (and I think he is the exact kind of big man Phil Jackson wants), they better get him this year. The picture for big men as I see it is that the past two drafts (where big men have been severely lacking) and the teams who have battled the Heat and Thunder well have really elevated the price of skilled size (heaven forbid valuing the unselfish players catches on too). Not only that, but with Monroe, we are talking about one who just turned 24 years old.  

[HitsterParticipant]

One thing about Greg that I forgot to mention was his returns over the last 3 seasons:-

2011/12 – 15.4 ppg, 9.7rpg

2012/13 – 16ppg, 9.6rpg

2013/14 – 15.2ppg, 9.3rpg

They are very solid stats and the guy is very durable having only missed 3 games across 4 nba regular seasons. But I do wonder if that sort of scoring might be considered his plateau. He could deliver similar figures for another 5 to 8 years easily but he may never be a potential 20ppg season guy on a regular basis.

Guys with his skillset, age and durability who put up stats in16/9 or 10 range will be sought after and paid well but have we all been thinking about a 20ppg upside which may never materialise.

The flip side would be he’d have no real downside so if you were looking for a 2nd or 3rd string on a team who’d give you 16/10 year in year out then Greg would be your man.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

One thing about Greg that I forgot to mention was his returns over the last 3 seasons:-

2011/12 – 15.4 ppg, 9.7rpg

2012/13 – 16ppg, 9.6rpg

2013/14 – 15.2ppg, 9.3rpg

They are very solid stats and the guy is very durable having only missed 3 games across 4 nba regular seasons. But I do wonder if that sort of scoring might be considered his plateau. He could deliver similar figures for another 5 to 8 years easily but he may never be a potential 20ppg season guy on a regular basis.

Guys with his skillset, age and durability who put up stats in16/9 or 10 range will be sought after and paid well but have we all been thinking about a 20ppg upside which may never materialise.

The flip side would be he’d have no real downside so if you were looking for a 2nd or 3rd string on a team who’d give you 16/10 year in year out then Greg would be your man.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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