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  • #33423
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    Pyron
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    http://twitter.com/#!/dgranger33

    "All the workers at our arena are invited to dinner with me in Indianapolis….. Date to be announced soon." – Twitter

     

    wow not only do i like granger’s game… i have even more respect for him now. that’s classy right there…

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  • #604140
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Thats Great..To see players think about the Fans…

    But why not give every worker $50,$100 or $200?  They’re out of work right now…I’m sure he can Afford it..That’ll Help them Much more than a dinner..You can get a free dinner at the Salvation Army or attending an All You Can Eat Buffet with a friend…

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  • #604144
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    JunkYardDog
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     I don’t know but…. with that f*cking situation…. economical crisis, battle for millions between multi millionaires….

    don’t you think that his gentle offer is a little bit mesquin ?…..

    It’s better than sprewell’s statement during the last lockout but players seem so far from reality.

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  • #604145
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    M-DYMES
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    B/C as much as this is a kind gesture from Granger, it is also a marketing/PR tactic of Granger and the Pacers.  Its is an effort to reconnect with the fans/staff and shine a bright light on Granger and the Pacers during these dark times.

     

    Not to mention, some might take it the wrong way seeing an NBA player dishing out hundreds of dollars to all these employees when these peoples job and the NBA as a whole is shutdown partly b/c players and owners are fighting over dollars.  At this point you probably don’t want to create too much of a connect between your money and the NBA at a time like this even if the reasoning is as kind hearted as this may be.  Social stigma can have adverse effects.

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  • #604167
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    raybeas
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    mdymes. This is not Granger and the Pacers doing this, this is all Granger. The Pacers, and every other team, has not only locked out the players, but the arena workers also. Ticket takers, concessions, security, etc. are all locked out by the owners.

    Granger could do this every night for months and still be ok financially. It is just a gesture to show he is thinking about them. He is to be congratulated for being the first (to my knowledge) to come out and do something for the other employees who dont happen to make millions per year.

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  • #604175
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    torontoraptors10
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    It’s funny how money can control people….  andI’m not referring to Danny Granger but the lockout in general.
     

    Money is the root of ALL evil. Remember that folks.

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  • #604181
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    IndianaBasketball
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    This is ALL Granger. This is’t a "PR Tactic" at all. Granger hasn’t even spoken with any Pacers officials since the lockout.

    There are a few people on this site who call Granger is a punk. He sure doesn’t look like a punk to me… One of the classiest guys in the league. His parents raised him the right way and it shows.

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  • #604183
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    Pyron
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    this wouldn’t look good on the media if they somehow distort this genuine gesture from granger into something else.

    maybe i’m not thinking of all of the different ways to look at this but i doubt any of the arena workers will take it in the wrong way.

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  • #604191
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    Jlv2011

    the players are still screwing the workers over.  This shows that Granger has tons of money to spend on dinner for them while they remain unemployed.

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  • #604222
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    M-DYMES
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    Raybeas,

    I’m not saying it is at all the pacers doing.  I’m saying it does have an effect on how people view the organization…they will attach a stigma that the Pacers have classy players in their organizatin which makes them classy and respectable as well.  Thought people would read between the lines a little.  Guess I’ll be more direct from now on.

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  • #604223
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    M-DYMES
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    U guys need to wake up.  It still can be a PR move and a genuine gesture. 

     

    Answer this question…

    Do you think this will bring about positive PR in any manner for Granger?

     

    If yes, then yes to some extent this generates positive PR and can be considered a PR tactic subconciously.  It is a nice kind thing to do, but it does not go without a benefit to Granger.  

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  • #604224
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    Scottoant93
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    Honestly I get Granger is trying to be nice, but if I was a worker, I would rather have my annual pay..I mean thats considered chump change for a professonal athlete.

    What M-DYMES is saying while Granger is doin a good deed of inviting employees to a dinner, he is also trying to get them to favor the players. I mean there is an article about fans and people being on the owners side and further distancing themselves from supporting the players. Im sure Granger is a classy guy, and is nice but at the end of the day you want people(fans) on your side not against you.

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  • #604228
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    Scottoant93
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    NBA winning public fight with players

    Beyond the scoring, beyond the stats, Carmelo Anthony(notes) has never understood the responsibilities of a franchise star. The easy parts of the job always appealed to him, but never the grind of accountability, leadership. Suddenly, he’s searching for someone to make the Players Association’s case, and that campaign could’ve started long ago with the man in the mirror.

    “I don’t think we’re getting our message out there,” Anthony told reporters over the weekend. “The owners are definitely doing a great job getting their message out. They have David Stern and the owners, we only have Derek Fisher(notes).”

    Carmelo Anthony thinks the NBA’s players aren’t doing a good job relating their position in the ongoing lockout to the public.
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    So, who’s stopping Anthony? Who’s muzzled him? Maybe Anthony ought to start paying attention, immerse himself in the issues and do his part. Few owners in the NBA have the platform that ‘Melo and most of peers do. So, stop making excuses and deliver a message. Come on down and be a franchise star.

    The owners are made to sit out, leaving the NBA’s stars the opportunity to do so much more than puff out chests behind Fisher in photo-ops. Out of necessity, out of the fear of $5 million fines, the owners are kept silent in these labor disputes. Some of these owners are liable to make tame a Kenyon Martin(notes) Twitter rant, and Stern never gives them the stage. There are a lot of crazy uncles in that attic, and Stern knows to keep them stored away until the lockout’s over.

    In these labor conflicts, the commissioner is like the old Student Body Right at USC: You know what’s coming and you still can’t stop it. Stern’s playbook is small, predictable and impossible to stop. Flooding the airwaves late last week, Stern framed the argument with the kind of red meat the public easily devours: The players make too much, my owners make too little.

    [Related: Danny Granger invites arena workers to dinner]

    Fisher has to walk the finest of lines in this debate, and he’s done it well. If he doesn’t hit the owners hard enough, the agents and players think he’s soft. If he hits them too hard, the public thinks he’s an angry black guy who should shut up and be glad he and the players get paid to play basketball. Hunter has always been willing to play the heavy, and that’s an easier fit for him than Fisher. The public fight matters in this debate, so, yes, Hunter will be left to answer questions on why he’s hired DEK Media out of suburban New Jersey to help with the union’s message.

    Billions of dollars are at stake, and somehow Hunter has enlisted a powerhouse public-relations firm with a website that includes a perforated, cut-out coupon for a one-hour free consultation. A coupon for a free consultation. Nothing says powerbroker like that does. Hunter must have been out shopping for discounts on dry cleaning and lube jobs, and stumbled across David Cummings’ coupon. Players are fighting to keep a financial war chest to hold off the owners, and Hunter is throwing money at a former sportswriter and magazine editor who decided not long ago that he is now a PR executive.

    Kevin Garnett made clear at a key labor meeting on Oct. 4 that the players had already made too many concessions to the owners.
    (Getty Images)

    That one’s on Hunter, not Fisher. The NBA has unlimited resources, and the Players Association has to make the best of its financial limitations. This is a big-time fight, and Hunter should be surrounding himself with the best of the best. The NBPA shouldn’t be an ATM for his cronies.

    This fight has grown nastier, more personal, in the past weeks. Privately, management insists that everything changed when the Boston CelticsKevin Garnett(notes) walked into the negotiating room on Oct. 4. The owners knew it wouldn’t go well when Garnett started glowering across the table, sources said, like the league lawyers, owners and officials were opponents at the center jump. He was defiant, determined and downright ornery. He was K.G. Everyone knew Hunter had to cede to the wishes of the stars, and the stars demanded that the players stop making concessions to the owners.

    As one league official said, “We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up.”

    [Related: Kevin Durant says NBA owners at fault for lockout]

    Easy for management to say, and yes, Stern spent the next meeting griping to Hunter and Fisher about the superstars parachuting into the meetings and usurping the process. Stern hounded the top union officials about who held the authority to make a deal with the NBA, about who was running things here. Within 24 hours Stern had canceled the season’s first two weeks and talks have ground to a stop.

    Nevertheless, Garnett had every right to interject himself into the process. This is a stars league, and the NBA will need those stars to sell it again. To end this lockout with the best players in the league feeling left out of the discussion, left silent, everyone’s asking for trouble, because it will not be Donald Sterling and Robert Sarver and James Dolan bringing the NBA back in the public eye. It will be the best players. Whenever this ends, they had to be a part of the fight, the debate and, ultimately, the resolution.

    “We can’t have completely poisoned waters here when this is over,” one front-office executive said. “Stern gets that, but I’m not sure all of our owners do. We have to have these guys on board, or where are we as a league?”

    Yes, Stern is hard to tackle in the open field of framing and controlling the debate. Some owners don’t believe he’s the ideal face to have out front now, but it doesn’t matter. This is an easy campaign for him, selling the public on lower taxes, better schools and an anti-terrorism policy. For a public that so easily turns on the players, Stern’s platform of less pay, shorter contracts and anti-Miami Heat constellations cross party lines. The commissioner has the easy, populist bumper stickers, and that’s why the players need superstars well-versed in the nuances of the debate.

    And that’s why, for one, Carmelo Anthony’s of little use to them now. To hear ‘Melo, all the union has on its side is Derek Fisher. Maybe so, but who’s to blame for that?

    sports.yahoo.com/nba/news

     

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  • #604227
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    M-DYMES
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    Actually all I’m saying is that by being so kind…its does affect people’s perception of Granger and the Pacers.  Thus it can be view partially as a PR tactic no matter how much you think that had nothing behind it.  I genuinely agree with those who don’t think he thought about the PR side of this, but it does have a PR effect like it or not.

    What ScottOant93 said is also true though if you wanted to dig deeper into the PR side of things.  Granger may not have purposely done this, but it does have a great PR effect on him, the pacers, the nba, and the players.  

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  • #604229
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    aamir543
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    Someone mentioned this on another thread, but TorontoRaptors10, is really the Gandhi/MLK of this thread.

    In fact, I think I found a pic of him………..

    Easy on the buzz cut next time.

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  • #604257
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    torontoraptors10
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    I like to spread awareness to everyone. I feel like society is suppressed from the real knowledge! Maybe I should create a topic regarding about this… maybe… just maybe.

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  • #604262
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Yeah, go ahead and create a topic on this…

     

    Torontoraptors10 nbadraft.net’s very own spritual leader….lol

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