[jonus grumbyParticipant]

reading some post draft ratings (not on this forum but elsewhere) so called experts will grade teams drafts and then make comments that don’t make sense.  For example Sporting News said Jordan Hamilton team got an A because he was a "potential lottery pick".  Well everyone was a "potential lottery pick".  The only measure that truely matters is how NBA gm ranked the players.  If Sporting News had Hamilton as a lottery pick then they had him ranked to high.  No player was a steal on draft day.  The same with saying a player was a steal or that a team reached for a certain player.  They all got picked where they did because that is how the picking gms had them ranked.  Tomorrow after we see them play in a NBA enviroment we can look back and say a player was drafted to high or to low but until that time they were all picked where they should have been picked because that is what their value was on draft day.  It is like the stock market.  We may think a stock is over/under valued and thus buy or sell the stock but on any given day that stock is properly valued on that day because it is trading where it is trading.

[boshjonesfordParticipant]

ill agree with you those things arent accurate

[boshjonesfordParticipant]

ill agree with you those things arent accurate

[llperez]

most people, both fans and "experts" alike,  have their idea of what players are good and what they are going to do and grade the draft based on those opinions when in reality we will have no way to grade this draft for a few years. I mean go back over any draft in nba history and see if what the opinions on players at the time of the draft were all accurate. They arent so all this draft grade stuff is just talk for now.

[llperez]

most people, both fans and "experts" alike,  have their idea of what players are good and what they are going to do and grade the draft based on those opinions when in reality we will have no way to grade this draft for a few years. I mean go back over any draft in nba history and see if what the opinions on players at the time of the draft were all accurate. They arent so all this draft grade stuff is just talk for now.

[hooverballParticipant]

Your comment has alot of truth to it, but because of some GMs strategy in the draft i.e. targeting a defenisive big man or a guard etc. Not always is the best player available taken creating value picks. I would agree that rating these is difficult and often inaccurate, but if we took 100 mock draft how many would have had biyombo before knight?

[hooverballParticipant]

Your comment has alot of truth to it, but because of some GMs strategy in the draft i.e. targeting a defenisive big man or a guard etc. Not always is the best player available taken creating value picks. I would agree that rating these is difficult and often inaccurate, but if we took 100 mock draft how many would have had biyombo before knight?

[grizz32Participant]

I do not understand how on this sight the Grizzlies get a C+ for taking a high potential guy. If he was thought to go as high as 17 I think that getting Selby at 49 is a pretty good pick. Every other site gives us an A except for this one.

[grizz32Participant]

I do not understand how on this sight the Grizzlies get a C+ for taking a high potential guy. If he was thought to go as high as 17 I think that getting Selby at 49 is a pretty good pick. Every other site gives us an A except for this one.

[surveParticipant]

As far as potential lottery picks, although what you say has a point….sometimes one pick can send shockwaves through a draft.  this was the case with the Tristan Thompson pick.  his selection caused Knight to drop considerably I believe because the 1st 3 teams went for the best available I believe, and although Thompson could end up being the best available in hindsight….I didnt see a board that had him that high.  Some teams stuck with their pick, like Washington to Vesely but just a lil tweak like that can cause another player to drop.  I think this is evident due to some players being picked by teams they didnt even work out for….like Knight.  So if a team doesnt address its needs, there rating could be lower than what is expected by us just because that team may have taken the best available.  The Pistons got an A on the sites I saw, this contradicts all of what I just laid out….if you are rating on their needs, I wouldnt rate it that high, because   man are they loaded with guards and where does Singler fit? 

[surveParticipant]

As far as potential lottery picks, although what you say has a point….sometimes one pick can send shockwaves through a draft.  this was the case with the Tristan Thompson pick.  his selection caused Knight to drop considerably I believe because the 1st 3 teams went for the best available I believe, and although Thompson could end up being the best available in hindsight….I didnt see a board that had him that high.  Some teams stuck with their pick, like Washington to Vesely but just a lil tweak like that can cause another player to drop.  I think this is evident due to some players being picked by teams they didnt even work out for….like Knight.  So if a team doesnt address its needs, there rating could be lower than what is expected by us just because that team may have taken the best available.  The Pistons got an A on the sites I saw, this contradicts all of what I just laid out….if you are rating on their needs, I wouldnt rate it that high, because   man are they loaded with guards and where does Singler fit? 

[Harbinger]

 If derrick williams was a top 2 pick if he would have slipped he would have still been considered a top 2 talent making him a steal. Hamilton was a top 20 maybe even  lottery worthy pick. So for a team that just won the championship with a 50 + record this was a "A+" pick in my eyes.There’s now 3 young players at the pg sg and the sf who maybe stil around and productive for a future mav squad.

[Harbinger]

 If derrick williams was a top 2 pick if he would have slipped he would have still been considered a top 2 talent making him a steal. Hamilton was a top 20 maybe even  lottery worthy pick. So for a team that just won the championship with a 50 + record this was a "A+" pick in my eyes.There’s now 3 young players at the pg sg and the sf who maybe stil around and productive for a future mav squad.

[marcusfizer21Participant]

 let them have their opinion… we need to respect that… Look at the Bobcats grading… It’s been mixed all throughout.. Some gave them C, some gave them A-… We don’t know who to believe but we have to at least wait for the result to happen… Look at what happened with ATL in 2005 drafting Marvin Williams, everyone gave at least A- or B and the results now are not quite so pretty..

[marcusfizer21Participant]

 let them have their opinion… we need to respect that… Look at the Bobcats grading… It’s been mixed all throughout.. Some gave them C, some gave them A-… We don’t know who to believe but we have to at least wait for the result to happen… Look at what happened with ATL in 2005 drafting Marvin Williams, everyone gave at least A- or B and the results now are not quite so pretty..

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