[marcusfizer21Participant]

Don’t get Marcin Gortat wrong: He wants more than anything to help the Orlando Magic win a title this season as Dwight Howard’s back-up. But he told the Sentinel on Thursday that he eventually wants to move out of Howard’s immense shadow. “I love the organization, but I’m not going to stay here being a back-up player and playing five minutes a game,” Gortat said. “I hope people understand that. I know I can have a bigger role on another team.”

Orlando Sentinel

Fizer’s Note: Here’s my right hand and I’m gonna use it to slap Gortat and send him back to earth… He’s no franchise player and he should learn how to act like a role player should be… Geez… One of those guys that overrates himself… He thinks he can beat Dwight Howard?! HAHAHA… Well… He needs to know that he’s lucky to be in the NBA in which most guys could only dream about…

[llperez]

haha, Gortat should be glad he has a long term contract making mad money behind Dwight. I’ll slap him right after you fizer

[ced67Participant]

Who said he thought he could beat out Dwight Howard, he simply thinks he could be doing a lot better with more minutes, which I agree with. Obviously its not going to be in Orlando but my sentiment was that he wanted a trade so he can go somewhere and start. He’s no franchise player, but I think he could be a 10/10 guy if he gets 30-33 mpg

[TyroberParticipant]

he will get traded in the summer. he knows he will so there is really no reason to cry about it

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

He should play for the Polish National Team if he wants to be a big time player. In the NBA, he is an average C that can start in alot of places but will never be the go to guy.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

He never said he wanted to be a big time player or the go to guy. He just said he wants to play more than five minutes a game and that he’s capable of playing a bigger role. Isn’t that understandable? I agree with him. He’ll be traded eventually though… Maybe before the trade deadline this season.

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

I know what he said. I read the quote. I understand he wants to play more. I can comprehend what I read. I am just saying, he doesnt deserve to take many of Howard’s minutes.

[llperez]

gortat took the money while it was there. He shouldn’t have taken it if he wanted to go somewhere he could play more. All he had to do was wait one more year to become an unrestricted free agent and go wherever he wanted. But Dallas threw ridiculous money at him and instead of leaving orlando he took the the big money, now he needs to accept the role.

[nba00Participant]

He just needs to be patient. This is just the regular season he will find out how important he is for the magic when they face the cavaliers in the play ofs. More teams are going to be interested to him if they beat shaq and james.

[RickyRubio9Participant]

If he wanted playing time, should’ve came to the Rockets or went to the Mavs. Starting Spot was there for the taking, but I’m happy at how things worked out because David Andersen is a pretty good player.

[getacomb]

hey llprez he didnt “take the money”, he was offered a big contract by the mavs as a restricted FA, and orlando decided to match it

[MagikKnickParticipant]

Yeah, getacomb is right

It really wasn’t Gortats decision

The Mavs offered him contract, and since he was restricted, Orlando had the chance to match…..and they did just that

[llperez]

you have to understand that when you are a restricted free agent, that means you can take a contract offer from any team, but your own team (magic) can match. Or, you can not accept any offers and take a 1 year deal from your team (magic) and then test the free agent market the next year while unrestricted. Many players who want to leave teams know their team will match so they just wait that extra year. Gortat didn’t because he wanted that money. To him, getting the gauranteed deal was more important then leaving. That’s how it works.

[llperez]

hey mkadazo, you should really learn how things work before you talk

[JNixonParticipant]

Gortat is vastly overpaid as it is…he’s not a starter at all in the NBA, but he could be an energy player of shot-blocking presence off the bench. I said it this summer when the Mavs tried to get him, he’d not different than Dampier and Diop because he’s not a threat to score. Plain and simple. He’s not really that good to me, but he’s athletic for a big man and he has size, so he would make a good role player if that role is limited.

[MkadozaParticipant]

Thank you getacomb and magikknick. Seriously people need to stop posting about things they dont fully understand.

It only worked out that way because Gortat accepted the Mavs offer and prayed that the Magic wouldnt match. At that point its out of his hands. Choice over.

but a restricted free agent is subject to his current team’s Right of First Refusal, meaning that the player can be signed to an offer sheet by another team, but his current club reserves the right to match the offer and keep the player. An offer sheet is a contract offer of at least 2 years made to a restricted free agent. The player’s current club has 7 days to match the offer or loses the player to the new team.

In other words, when you sign that deal, thats the deal your getting. Whether its from your current team or the team you signed with IS NOT UP TO YOU!

[llperez]

you can keep changing your post, but you called me out for not knowing what I’m talking about and you were wrong. The Magic didn’t even hesitate to match, that means Gortat probablly figured they would. If he was set on leaving, he wouldn’t have accepted the offer from the mavs and waited one more year, but he took the money while it was there. Don’t act like i don’t know what I’m talking about.

[ummm…LooneyParticipant]

llperez he could have rejected the offer and waited, but maybe he didn’t want to wait, he took the offer and hoped and prayed the Magic wouldn’t match.

[MkadozaParticipant]

Gortat didnt figure he would. The GM said before he signed with the Mavs that he wouldnt pay more than 5 million for a Dwight Howard backup. He also said he’d be fine where ever he played.

http://www.thirdquartercollapse.com/2009/7/2/936350/marcin-gortat-signs-offer-sheet

Why dont you reacquaint yourself with how it went down?

[llperez]

it doesn’t matter, he could have waited and he didn’t want to. Can’t blame him for that, but he took the money knowing full well there was a chance his team could match. The money was more important then leaving. Period. He could have gone to management before he accepted the offer and made sure they wouldn’t match similar to when Odom left the clippers for miami. But gortat didn’t. He jumped on the cash and said “i hope this works out”. You wanna talk down to people on here, then maybe you should make sure you know what you’re talking about first.

[ummm…LooneyParticipant]

You both make valid arguements, lets be cool here guys.

[MkadozaParticipant]

I do. Everything I have said has been accurate. There was not a statement made by the GM prior to his signing saying he would match, and several statements saying he wouldn’t. The Magic hesitated to match. They said immediately after he signed the offer that they wouldnt. He knew that if he went to the Mavs he’d at least platoon with Dampier and make a lot of money doing so.

And what makes you think that Management would be honest with Gortat? There have been many instances, primarily in football, where a player is made a ‘promise’ by and organization only to have reneged on it later. From everything thats been reported, this is close. The GM said repeatedly before and during that they would NOT match a deal over 5 mill. Why do you insist that them matching was a sure thing? Where did you get that information from?

Ok, looney, argument over because no matter how long we debate, its nothing we can be sure of. Truce? lol

[llperez]

I never said it was a sure thing, not once. But I can promise you that if gortat was dead set on leaving, he could have gone to management before accepting the offer and made sure they wouldn’t match. That happens all the time. If guys are dead set on leaving, then they make sure the team won’t match before they accept any offers, or else they just wait on the one year deal and do it again next year. I remember those reports that the magic “might” not match. But gortat shouldn’t have based his decision on “might”. He should have made sure. Truth is he wanted the money and figured the rest would play itself out, which is why he is still in orlando getting backup minutes. You originally just said I need to stop posting about things i know nothing about before you edited 3 times adding information to support how you feel. I know exactly what I’m talking about. Gortat took the money and now he doesn’t like the minutes he’s getting. Boo hoo for him. Shouldn’t have taken the offer if he wanted out of orlando so bad.

[MkadozaParticipant]

I just put it like this. If you had a choice between playing in Orlando for 1 million, or playing in Dallas where you’ll get more PT, or Orlando for 5.5 million, what would you do? He’s just a player venting his frustrations about not playing.

And why would Orlando even resign him for that much if they aren’t going to play him? They better be counting on a first rounder in a trade, because that long contract is meant to look in a player who is going to flourish as a starter, like Dallas thought. What was Orlando thinking?

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