[ReturnofthelemonParticipant]

Just saw ESPN reporting via Twitter that Gortat has agreed to a 5 year/$60 million deal. 

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Livingston heading to Golden State in a three year deal.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Livingston heading to Golden State in a three year deal.

[chrispaulwallParticipant]

 he’s already 30. over/under 3 years till they wish they could amnesty him?

[chrispaulwallParticipant]

 he’s already 30. over/under 3 years till they wish they could amnesty him?

[r377Participant]

3 years @ $36mill might of been ok. The 4th of 5th years will be the crippler on that deal…..

[r377Participant]

3 years @ $36mill might of been ok. The 4th of 5th years will be the crippler on that deal…..

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

 A fully guaranteed $60 million for Gortat too lol. No team options or partially guaranteed years. 

The Wizards will hate this in two years. 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

 A fully guaranteed $60 million for Gortat too lol. No team options or partially guaranteed years. 

The Wizards will hate this in two years. 

 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 WHY 5 years?!?!! They signed Gortat for the same span of time as a Kyrie Irving who is a decade younger. Good job Grunfield. You got to take up a 6th of your salary cap while enjoying the risks of being stuck with a big man in his mid 30s. 

And they still don’t have a rim protector by the way. 

 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 WHY 5 years?!?!! They signed Gortat for the same span of time as a Kyrie Irving who is a decade younger. Good job Grunfield. You got to take up a 6th of your salary cap while enjoying the risks of being stuck with a big man in his mid 30s. 

And they still don’t have a rim protector by the way. 

 

[benny15Participant]

 the results of resigning an unrestricted free agent bigger market teams want. i think there would have been a legit chance of washington loosing Marcin if this dragged out to either Miami or Dallas honestly. its not really a great deal for the wizzards, but its not like they can rely on Nene’s help to stabilize the post. Seraphin and Booker are good, but clearly not who they see as eventual replacements in the starting line-up. 

[benny15Participant]

 the results of resigning an unrestricted free agent bigger market teams want. i think there would have been a legit chance of washington loosing Marcin if this dragged out to either Miami or Dallas honestly. its not really a great deal for the wizzards, but its not like they can rely on Nene’s help to stabilize the post. Seraphin and Booker are good, but clearly not who they see as eventual replacements in the starting line-up. 

[benny15Participant]

 i wonder who becomes the top ranked centers now in unrestricted free agency. frye? hawes? i know bosh is now listed as a center, but he would be a much tougher target to acquire i believe and the same could be said about Gasol. you know those two have a short list of teams that they would entertain. 

[benny15Participant]

 i wonder who becomes the top ranked centers now in unrestricted free agency. frye? hawes? i know bosh is now listed as a center, but he would be a much tougher target to acquire i believe and the same could be said about Gasol. you know those two have a short list of teams that they would entertain. 

[phwillParticipant]

aren’t the worst – it’s about in the ballpark of Tiago Splitter, which seems like the going rate for an above average big.  I’m assuming we’re going to see some really silly money thrown around this FA period since the league is widely expecting accelerated cap increases leading into the 2017 CBA renewal.  I may be wrong, but they could stretch the last couple years of the contract to lighten the blow a little on an annual basis.  I just hope they don’t give Ariza a bloated five year deal too.

[phwillParticipant]

aren’t the worst – it’s about in the ballpark of Tiago Splitter, which seems like the going rate for an above average big.  I’m assuming we’re going to see some really silly money thrown around this FA period since the league is widely expecting accelerated cap increases leading into the 2017 CBA renewal.  I may be wrong, but they could stretch the last couple years of the contract to lighten the blow a little on an annual basis.  I just hope they don’t give Ariza a bloated five year deal too.

[Ghost01Participant]

 Scared of Miami, they overpaid. I can’t blame them because big men get paid, but near the end of that deal it is going to seem brutal. He wasn’t very good in the playoffs minus one huge game vs Indiana. 

[Ghost01Participant]

 Scared of Miami, they overpaid. I can’t blame them because big men get paid, but near the end of that deal it is going to seem brutal. He wasn’t very good in the playoffs minus one huge game vs Indiana. 

[WarblingSpamalopeParticipant]

I realize they were scared of losing him and didn’t want to lose momentum. At the same time this is how you get into cap crunches and start making deals you don’t want to make down the road to compensate. You just have to fight the urge to overpay for size. It’s an old concept and one that blows up in team’s faces over and over. The Spurs overcame overpaying for Splitter because other guys are underpaid. Look around the league at underachieving centers who make 10 million plus and how it hamstrung the franchise. There is a reason centers aren’t a required roster position anymore. The talent isn’t there to justify the contracts.

[WarblingSpamalopeParticipant]

I realize they were scared of losing him and didn’t want to lose momentum. At the same time this is how you get into cap crunches and start making deals you don’t want to make down the road to compensate. You just have to fight the urge to overpay for size. It’s an old concept and one that blows up in team’s faces over and over. The Spurs overcame overpaying for Splitter because other guys are underpaid. Look around the league at underachieving centers who make 10 million plus and how it hamstrung the franchise. There is a reason centers aren’t a required roster position anymore. The talent isn’t there to justify the contracts.

[Jester87Participant]

Tough decision. I’m pretty sure this deal is going to look bad to terrible 3 years from now on and it won’t be easy to get rid of it, but again, what were the options for the Wiz? Let Gortat walk? Washington hasn’t been a top destination for free agents in ages, who were they supposed to get? Or were they just supposed to be bad again for a few years?

[Jester87Participant]

Tough decision. I’m pretty sure this deal is going to look bad to terrible 3 years from now on and it won’t be easy to get rid of it, but again, what were the options for the Wiz? Let Gortat walk? Washington hasn’t been a top destination for free agents in ages, who were they supposed to get? Or were they just supposed to be bad again for a few years?

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

He and Ariza bring back Wizs to postseason.
Too many offers for Trevor, so DC team opted to resign The Polish Hammer.
PLUS
Washington have Webster, Porter ( who NEEDS minutes!)and can add other from a DEEP UNDRAFTED CLASS

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

He and Ariza bring back Wizs to postseason.
Too many offers for Trevor, so DC team opted to resign The Polish Hammer.
PLUS
Washington have Webster, Porter ( who NEEDS minutes!)and can add other from a DEEP UNDRAFTED CLASS

[JordoParticipant]

 just when I thought the wizards were starting to makes good moves

[JordoParticipant]

 just when I thought the wizards were starting to makes good moves

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

WIZ try to resign their starters. AND overpay big players is natural, plus gortat was FA…
PLEASE WIZARDS, make a right move : LUOL DENG !
NO OVERPAY ARIZA

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

WIZ try to resign their starters. AND overpay big players is natural, plus gortat was FA…
PLEASE WIZARDS, make a right move : LUOL DENG !
NO OVERPAY ARIZA

[Jester87Participant]

Also, it’s tough to blame those eastern conference team for going all in. I mean, how far were the Wizards from beating Indiana in the second round? The East is so awful that pretty much every team with a chance to make the playoffs has a legit feel they have a shot to the conference finals. And small market teams can’t really pass on a possible conference finals run to look for who-knows-what long term project. Washington isn’t technically a small market, but the Wizards have been so awful for a long time that they’re not really an appealing destination for anyone. I know this contract will probably look terrible by 2016-17 and the Wiz have already used the amnesty clause on Blatche, but again, what should they do? Save the cap space for the hell of it? They could’ve made a run for Greg Monroe (who played for Georgetown), the only starting caliber center free agent, but Monroe is a liability on defense, something that doesn’t fit well in a team with only so-so backcourt defense; his development has been stagnant; but first and foremost, he’s a RFA and usually to get a RFA from another team you have to overpay them. And there were suitors for Gortat (Miami).

 

[Jester87Participant]

Also, it’s tough to blame those eastern conference team for going all in. I mean, how far were the Wizards from beating Indiana in the second round? The East is so awful that pretty much every team with a chance to make the playoffs has a legit feel they have a shot to the conference finals. And small market teams can’t really pass on a possible conference finals run to look for who-knows-what long term project. Washington isn’t technically a small market, but the Wizards have been so awful for a long time that they’re not really an appealing destination for anyone. I know this contract will probably look terrible by 2016-17 and the Wiz have already used the amnesty clause on Blatche, but again, what should they do? Save the cap space for the hell of it? They could’ve made a run for Greg Monroe (who played for Georgetown), the only starting caliber center free agent, but Monroe is a liability on defense, something that doesn’t fit well in a team with only so-so backcourt defense; his development has been stagnant; but first and foremost, he’s a RFA and usually to get a RFA from another team you have to overpay them. And there were suitors for Gortat (Miami).

 

[CavFanPRParticipant]

This deal isn’t as bad as people are making out to be. He’s 30 years young, athletic and doesn’t have a lot of miles. He’ll live up to this contract.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

This deal isn’t as bad as people are making out to be. He’s 30 years young, athletic and doesn’t have a lot of miles. He’ll live up to this contract.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I guess this is how gortat got that deal…..

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I guess this is how gortat got that deal…..

[celtics1982Participant]

One thing to look at is that Gortat doesn’t have the wear and tear of your typical 30 year old.  I really like him as a player and feel the wizards had to resign him.  I think some fans undervalue what he did for the Wizards last year.

[celtics1982Participant]

One thing to look at is that Gortat doesn’t have the wear and tear of your typical 30 year old.  I really like him as a player and feel the wizards had to resign him.  I think some fans undervalue what he did for the Wizards last year.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Valid point by Celtics1982 above, Gortat hasn’t had as much mileage as a lot of 30 year olds in the NBA. I don’t have an issue with $12 million a year over 3 or even 4 years but 5 is stretching it. I suppose he has trade value in year 5 if you look at it that way. Personally I think that with a 5 year deal then I’d have trimmed the value a bit.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Valid point by Celtics1982 above, Gortat hasn’t had as much mileage as a lot of 30 year olds in the NBA. I don’t have an issue with $12 million a year over 3 or even 4 years but 5 is stretching it. I suppose he has trade value in year 5 if you look at it that way. Personally I think that with a 5 year deal then I’d have trimmed the value a bit.

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