[MopgrassParticipant]

Link doesn’t work.

You could do a lot worse for Andrew Bynum. I’m sure there would be other assets.

Gasol would work a lot better in Mike Brown’s offense. Cavs that would well in the Lakers offense: Anthony Bennett and Sergei Karasev. Bennett probably wouldn’t go anywhere. That leaves draft picks. I think.

What would the Cavs have to send back?

[JCliff24Participant]

The deal makes sense for both teams. In that report it also states the Cavaliers were trying to pry Deng from the Bulls for Bynum. Either would be a tremendous upgrade over the skillset that Bynum has been showing.

[JCliff24Participant]

The deal makes sense for both teams. In that report it also states the Cavaliers were trying to pry Deng from the Bulls for Bynum. Either would be a tremendous upgrade over the skillset that Bynum has been showing.

[TyroberParticipant]

It makes complete sense to tank this year and try again next year imo. The Bulls and Lakers would cut Bynum, save on luxury tax, and position themselves up to tank. There is absolutely no better year to tank because a top 6 pick at this point looks like a complete stud. With the 2014 draft class being as hyped as it is I am quite sure fans would completely understand trying to lose games this year. 

[TyroberParticipant]

It makes complete sense to tank this year and try again next year imo. The Bulls and Lakers would cut Bynum, save on luxury tax, and position themselves up to tank. There is absolutely no better year to tank because a top 6 pick at this point looks like a complete stud. With the 2014 draft class being as hyped as it is I am quite sure fans would completely understand trying to lose games this year. 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Lakers in full tank mode. SMH

[llperez]

What do you mean by SMH? The lakers are a team that have made A very direct point of saving salary for next summer and getting a high pick as well makes sense. What are you shaking your head about?

[llperez]

What do you mean by SMH? The lakers are a team that have made A very direct point of saving salary for next summer and getting a high pick as well makes sense. What are you shaking your head about?

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Lakers in full tank mode. SMH

[aivsdirkParticipant]

 deal makes no sense. This whole tanking ideal has blasted and exploded out of control. Gasol is still a top 10 center in this league. He looks even better playing with Kobe. All you have to do is watch the games to see Gasol is unhappy with the D’antoni system. He has to succumb to posting up 15 ft or further from the basket. When Kobe came back this year we all saw how Gasol looked better and more engaged. Thats just one part.

I dont understand why trade a guy in Gasol who can obviously give you help for the next 2 years with Kobe for a guy who you are unsure of can stay healthy for a full year. I certainly dont see the logic in trading then dumping bynum later, its like losing Gasol for a guy who still doesnt seem to be 100%. Whats wrong with basketball these days. Kobe want be happy about this.

For the dude that posted this. I dont see Gasol working well in Mike Browns offense. They barely throw bynum the ball on the block i dont see any prettier outlook for Gasol if he were to go there.

 

 

[aivsdirkParticipant]

 deal makes no sense. This whole tanking ideal has blasted and exploded out of control. Gasol is still a top 10 center in this league. He looks even better playing with Kobe. All you have to do is watch the games to see Gasol is unhappy with the D’antoni system. He has to succumb to posting up 15 ft or further from the basket. When Kobe came back this year we all saw how Gasol looked better and more engaged. Thats just one part.

I dont understand why trade a guy in Gasol who can obviously give you help for the next 2 years with Kobe for a guy who you are unsure of can stay healthy for a full year. I certainly dont see the logic in trading then dumping bynum later, its like losing Gasol for a guy who still doesnt seem to be 100%. Whats wrong with basketball these days. Kobe want be happy about this.

For the dude that posted this. I dont see Gasol working well in Mike Browns offense. They barely throw bynum the ball on the block i dont see any prettier outlook for Gasol if he were to go there.

 

 

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 why would ANYBODY want Bynum?????  Am I missing something here?

[TyroberParticipant]

They are not trading for Bynum to keep him. He would be cut and teams over the luxury tax would save a ton of money by getting rid of a bigger current deal since his salary isn’t fully guaranteed. 

[TyroberParticipant]

They are not trading for Bynum to keep him. He would be cut and teams over the luxury tax would save a ton of money by getting rid of a bigger current deal since his salary isn’t fully guaranteed. 

[Tight ButtholeParticipant]

They arent trading for Bynum the player. Theyre trading for Bynum, then cutting him before his January 7th, second half of his contract kicks in deadline. So theyre getting rid of Gasol’s contract, and essentially saving $12million in luxury tax, then cutting Bynum before Jan7. Then Bynum will be free to sign where ever. Thats essentially what Chicago to doing with Deng also.

[Tight ButtholeParticipant]

They arent trading for Bynum the player. Theyre trading for Bynum, then cutting him before his January 7th, second half of his contract kicks in deadline. So theyre getting rid of Gasol’s contract, and essentially saving $12million in luxury tax, then cutting Bynum before Jan7. Then Bynum will be free to sign where ever. Thats essentially what Chicago to doing with Deng also.

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 why would ANYBODY want Bynum?????  Am I missing something here?

[NYK2010Participant]

 Lakers don’t care as much about the luxury tax as you think.

They have a huge TV deal thats why they gave Kobe so much money.

Yes they amnestied World Peace but he’s not the same player anymore.

Without Gasol they would have a team with no stars till Kobe comes back, I don’t see it happening.

 

 

 

 

[DaGuywhodidurmaParticipant]

 Didnt espn already pull the lakers-houston game off national television? I dont think pau being on the team means much in terms of being a fan attraction.

 

If I was the lakers id trade pau for bynum, gee, their second rounder and the right to swap first rounders this year. 

 

I dont think pau would get cleveland into the playoffs and the lakers would have a realistic shot at ending top 7. Also with clevelands luck at getting good draft position the lakers would have twice the chance of winning the lotto. Plus cleveland would still have a lotto pick eithet way. 

 

 

 

 

[DaGuywhodidurmaParticipant]

 Didnt espn already pull the lakers-houston game off national television? I dont think pau being on the team means much in terms of being a fan attraction.

 

If I was the lakers id trade pau for bynum, gee, their second rounder and the right to swap first rounders this year. 

 

I dont think pau would get cleveland into the playoffs and the lakers would have a realistic shot at ending top 7. Also with clevelands luck at getting good draft position the lakers would have twice the chance of winning the lotto. Plus cleveland would still have a lotto pick eithet way. 

 

 

 

 

[NYK2010Participant]

 Lakers don’t care as much about the luxury tax as you think.

They have a huge TV deal thats why they gave Kobe so much money.

Yes they amnestied World Peace but he’s not the same player anymore.

Without Gasol they would have a team with no stars till Kobe comes back, I don’t see it happening.

 

 

 

 

[NeggedFolyfe]

Only way I would do this if its for Anthony bennet and a  protected draft pick and Bynum.

the Lakers don’t want Bynum the player but a come up is a come up if they can get bennet and a draft pick the future looks more secure.

The cavs want to make the playoffs BADLY the owner said the cavs will win a ship before mia…..he has to eat those words he wants a winning team now. Could you get away with playing gasol at the center in the east? maybe. Tristan Thompson is the cavs power forward they realize now bennet is more of a pf with asthma problems then a explosive hybrid sf. He may come back strong next year but does he fit? they now have him and a draft pick to package along with Bynums contract and maybe even a dion waiters. If you are going to add have pf on the roster…..Kevin love is looking for a star to play with. carmello isn’t feeling new York. I could see them pulling a deal like this to get some asset ,clear some cap. if its with the lakers who knows but I do know the cavs are sitting on a goldmine of assets and future picks they own Memphis and Sacramento as well as their own.

they need to get active.

[NeggedFolyfe]

Only way I would do this if its for Anthony bennet and a  protected draft pick and Bynum.

the Lakers don’t want Bynum the player but a come up is a come up if they can get bennet and a draft pick the future looks more secure.

The cavs want to make the playoffs BADLY the owner said the cavs will win a ship before mia…..he has to eat those words he wants a winning team now. Could you get away with playing gasol at the center in the east? maybe. Tristan Thompson is the cavs power forward they realize now bennet is more of a pf with asthma problems then a explosive hybrid sf. He may come back strong next year but does he fit? they now have him and a draft pick to package along with Bynums contract and maybe even a dion waiters. If you are going to add have pf on the roster…..Kevin love is looking for a star to play with. carmello isn’t feeling new York. I could see them pulling a deal like this to get some asset ,clear some cap. if its with the lakers who knows but I do know the cavs are sitting on a goldmine of assets and future picks they own Memphis and Sacramento as well as their own.

they need to get active.

[HitsterParticipant]

 The Lakers do the deal to save a lot of luxury tax money if we assume they waive Bynum. A lot would depend on whether the Lakers have any interest in Gasol beyond this season as to whether the deal goes down.

There would need to be a makeweight to help balance salaries I’d assume that Alonzo Gee might be involved as he has a team option for 2014-15 and the Lakers could waive him or trade him on. I don’t think that any picks would go or sweetners from either side as Cleveland get an asset back in Gasol for Bynum’s contract and the Lakers save a load of money.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 The Lakers do the deal to save a lot of luxury tax money if we assume they waive Bynum. A lot would depend on whether the Lakers have any interest in Gasol beyond this season as to whether the deal goes down.

There would need to be a makeweight to help balance salaries I’d assume that Alonzo Gee might be involved as he has a team option for 2014-15 and the Lakers could waive him or trade him on. I don’t think that any picks would go or sweetners from either side as Cleveland get an asset back in Gasol for Bynum’s contract and the Lakers save a load of money.

 

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 if the lakers do this deal and waive Bynum, I hope he goes to Houston to back up Howard.

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 if the lakers do this deal and waive Bynum, I hope he goes to Houston to back up Howard.

[TyroberParticipant]

 I don’t see the Cavs offering a ton to get Gasol because the Lakers NEED to lose. Whether you like Gasol or not him being there helps the Lakers win games and imo that isn’t something they should be doing. I think fans would understand trading him away in order to get a higher draft pick if they just look at the big picture. There is a good chance he doesn’t resign with them anyway so save the money and try and get into the top 6 in the draft.

[TyroberParticipant]

 I don’t see the Cavs offering a ton to get Gasol because the Lakers NEED to lose. Whether you like Gasol or not him being there helps the Lakers win games and imo that isn’t something they should be doing. I think fans would understand trading him away in order to get a higher draft pick if they just look at the big picture. There is a good chance he doesn’t resign with them anyway so save the money and try and get into the top 6 in the draft.

[Ghost01Participant]

 I want to make something clear to Lakers fans…

Please, stop bringing up the FA class of 2014, and how the Lakers are "saving money for the offseason".

First of all, they signed Kobe to 25 million dollars for next year. If he is still playing (which might not be a sure thing), that move, regardless of how little cap they have to pay around him, was not a "saving money" move, it was a "selling tickets while we suck" move.

And do you know why they did that? Look at the free agents…the Lakers are not getting LeBron James. That is just not happening. And most Laker fans tend to agree with that. But they still continue to talk about "1 or 2 max level guys, we can win a title in a year or two", and that just is not true. Where are these max level players? The only FA that fits that bill is Melo, and he would be a downright disasterous fit with Kobe, and can’t even get his current team to .500. He’s reached his prime, he going to be 30, and you are not winning a title with Kobe, Melo and a bunch of role players in 2015. 

The Lakers are looking at I believe the 2016-2017 offseasons. They know Kevin Love’s contract will come up, as will Westbrook’s, as will Durants. Are these all realistic? Probably not, but that is what they are thinking. They are going to be bad for a couple years, I think they have come to grips with that. Not building a dream team summer of 2014. Sorry. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ghost01Participant]

 I want to make something clear to Lakers fans…

Please, stop bringing up the FA class of 2014, and how the Lakers are "saving money for the offseason".

First of all, they signed Kobe to 25 million dollars for next year. If he is still playing (which might not be a sure thing), that move, regardless of how little cap they have to pay around him, was not a "saving money" move, it was a "selling tickets while we suck" move.

And do you know why they did that? Look at the free agents…the Lakers are not getting LeBron James. That is just not happening. And most Laker fans tend to agree with that. But they still continue to talk about "1 or 2 max level guys, we can win a title in a year or two", and that just is not true. Where are these max level players? The only FA that fits that bill is Melo, and he would be a downright disasterous fit with Kobe, and can’t even get his current team to .500. He’s reached his prime, he going to be 30, and you are not winning a title with Kobe, Melo and a bunch of role players in 2015. 

The Lakers are looking at I believe the 2016-2017 offseasons. They know Kevin Love’s contract will come up, as will Westbrook’s, as will Durants. Are these all realistic? Probably not, but that is what they are thinking. They are going to be bad for a couple years, I think they have come to grips with that. Not building a dream team summer of 2014. Sorry. 

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 K-Love has a player option in 2015 I think. The Lakers have just resigned Kobe to a big two year deal but now need to start looking at the post Kobe era and maybe getting a younger FA who will take the team forward post Kobe.

They could look to go short term and sign some veterans who want one last run to one or two year deals but that can be a risky move as players can go over the hill suddenly and having an ageing team across a 100 game plus full NBA season is always a big ask.

With Kobe being out, it will be easier for them to go into tank mode as they won’t have Kobe demanding they try and stay competitive with him trying to win games on his own.

Moving Gasol to Cleveland puts him into the other Conference at least for a few months and could stop them having to make a hard decision about resigning him this summer.

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 K-Love has a player option in 2015 I think. The Lakers have just resigned Kobe to a big two year deal but now need to start looking at the post Kobe era and maybe getting a younger FA who will take the team forward post Kobe.

They could look to go short term and sign some veterans who want one last run to one or two year deals but that can be a risky move as players can go over the hill suddenly and having an ageing team across a 100 game plus full NBA season is always a big ask.

With Kobe being out, it will be easier for them to go into tank mode as they won’t have Kobe demanding they try and stay competitive with him trying to win games on his own.

Moving Gasol to Cleveland puts him into the other Conference at least for a few months and could stop them having to make a hard decision about resigning him this summer.

 

 

 

 

 

[Moon RiverParticipant]

This is actually the type of move I hope the Bulls pull the trigger on, but given their history of not making impact trades I doubt they will.  They are not getting a discount from Deng to stay because this is Deng’s last big pay day.  Also, unlike the Lakers, the Bulls are very concerned about their tax liability and this Bynum move would help them out significantly.  Please make this move Gar/Pax and officially join the tank rank and lets move on starting this summer.

[Moon RiverParticipant]

This is actually the type of move I hope the Bulls pull the trigger on, but given their history of not making impact trades I doubt they will.  They are not getting a discount from Deng to stay because this is Deng’s last big pay day.  Also, unlike the Lakers, the Bulls are very concerned about their tax liability and this Bynum move would help them out significantly.  Please make this move Gar/Pax and officially join the tank rank and lets move on starting this summer.

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