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- Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:18pm #28682

The8thDeadlySinParticipantMan.. Yall are crazy… Westbrook has been playing like this all year long.. Yall obviously dont watch games and just look at box scores…
Now, he is playing in big games and announcers are saying this stuff so yall are repeating it.. He has always had a bad IQ and has always taken bad bad shots…
Its just funny that yall claim to know so much about the game and the players but yall only talk about stuff when everyone else is talking about it…
Crazy…..
Before tonight, they were a great tandem but now he is what is hurting Durant… He is whats wrong with this team and before, he was the future of the team…
SMH…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:29pm #529470

Scottoant93ParticipantI’ll admit that i’ve only watched a handful of his games before, and I always knew he was always a shoot first pg. I have commented on at least 4 posts about him so far,and its getting old. I always thought he would be in the future of the team but not the star(KD is), either way he is still an elite talent, and some people have gone too far to insult him(one calling him a 3 year old retard, Really?)
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:30pm #529472
knicksfan7ParticipantThe only thing bothering me about Westbrook is the spike in turnovers per game, it’s up by .5 this postseason from the regular season. I think he’ll cut down on bad shots as he continues to be in the league b/c he has shown improvement every season he has been in the NBA. You make great points 8th, no doubt. I don’t know if OKC is championship caliber this year, but next year I think they should be title or bust w/o a doubt.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:35pm #529474

What The DevilParticipantHe has been doing it all season but I think it’s been more prominent in the playoffs because it’s cost them games like game 1 and tonights game. Anything that can possibly be directly related to losing a playoff game will be scrutinized by everyone. I also think he is still a bit immature and wants to be more considered 1B on his team rather than 2.
Also first post yay ^.^
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:43pm #529480

The8thDeadlySinParticipantIt cost them games in the regular season too!! Just because they get a loss and he scores 26 and 13 assisst doesnt mean he played well.. He is playing exactly the same in the playoffs that he did in the regular season.. The only difference now is that this Grizz team is preparing for him and only him.. In the regular season, they have to travel all over the country so they dont have time to practice for every team.. That is why his TOs are higher.. The Grizz are playing to him and his weaknesses..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:50pm #529482

What The DevilParticipantI wouldn’t say they are only preparing for him. No matter what a team has to plan for Durant. But Allen has been playing very good defense against him in my opinion and that allows for more focus on Westbrook. I figured the regular season was an anomally and when playoffs came he would change a bit. Playoffs are suppose to be when the stars take over and play their best to get their teams in positions to win. Westbrook simply isn’t doing that.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:59pm #529484

FastAndFuriousParticipantExactly, thank you man
I noted in the first series, I clearly said, with him coming on TV now more often, his weakness are more easy to see, he’s been this player each year.
Yall were just blinded because the games that came on TV were his good ones and he stepped up
Orlando he had the triple double and they won
Lakers he had 32 points and played good
Chicago first game of the year he outplayed Rose
So now when you can see him on a regualr basis you are seeing his weakness’s and it’s easier to point out, but he’s been playing like this the whole year.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:02pm #529487

What The DevilParticipantI think this whole thing is kinda overblown really. My only question is where does he fit in for the future of the Thunder? Is he the pg they need? Should they give him a max or look else where? I mean he is a very good player who will get even better in time. I just don’t know if he fits the role that he is in at the moment.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:05pm #529488

The8thDeadlySinParticipantWhen I said "they only have to prepare for him" i mean he is the only PG the opposing team has to key on… Its not like the regular season where they will have to play a different PG every night.. Regular season you could see CP3, Nash, Conley, Rose, Billups, Nelson, Rondo in 7 games… Here, in 7 games, its Westbrook…. They can key on him and study him because they will be seeing him for at least 4 straigh games…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:09pm #529489
montauriush4ParticipantNobody care what you do in the season, its what you doing in the playoff and he is not doing nothing but take bad shot and not giving Kevin Durant the ball at the end of the game. That why everybody is mad at him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:14pm #529491

What The DevilParticipantMy bad The8thDeadlySin I misinterpreted what you were saying. I do agree with you and it seems that Westbrook is easily exploited and if they make it further in the playoffs I don’t think it bodes well with the possible match ups they will play like the Mavs defense and the Bulls defense.(just possibilities not predictions) I think Lionel Hollins has done a very good job of figuring out Westbrook and finding ways to make the Thunder basically beat themselves.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:15pm #529492

The8thDeadlySinParticipantIts not that "nobody cares" its just that nobody remembers… People have such short memories when it comes to basketball.. I am surprised that nobody has made a thread about Mayo being great yet… I mean he did have 18 today… Or does everyone remember that he has averaged close to 20 points per game for a couple years??
As fans, we need to stop being so short sighted…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:16pm #529493

The8thDeadlySinParticipant@Devil
I agree with you completly about them going any further.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:24pm #529495

FastAndFuriousParticipantLook at it this way…..
OKC doesn’t get much TV time and when they do Russ has performed VERY Well
So when you see he had 28 and 10 another game thats not on TV you probably are thinking "Westbrook killing again" when he prolly bad the exact same way he’s been playing the entire playoffs.
Then he makes the All-Star game, so now you really thinking, Westbrook numbers are legit and his numbers have improved each year, and the Thunder record has improved as well.
Then the play-offs come and your looking like WTF?
Not knowing his game is erratic 24/7 365 days.
So you either just gotta hate him or love him
One thing for sure tho he has talent
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:29pm #529497

Meditated StatesParticipantI been saying all year though he is not a good PG. He gets a lot of assist from handling the ball alot and he plays with KD. He really does not run an O that good at all. He has been reckless with the ball all season. Their is no surprise with that. I am a little shocked at how bad the shot selection has been in the playoffs by him. Get KD the rock is his job and play D.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:32pm #529498

What The DevilParticipantHe definitely has talent. He was deserving of his all star selection and he was a major part in the Thunder’s improved record. I’m just not sure where they go from here. If they keep him will he eventually grow out of the erratic play or will he keep his game as it is? I think Thunder fans will point the finger at him if they lose this series to the Grizz and make him out to be a villain which isn’t really fair to him. When the fans start turning against him would the Thunder trade him for a more passing point rather than a scoring point?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:39pm #529499

The8thDeadlySinParticipantI dont think that Westbrook is the problem.. Listen to Durants quotes.. He says this stuff has been going on all year.. Westbrook has been taking 20 shots a game for a long time.. Lots of them have been bad but enough of them are good enough for them to win… I think the problem is their lack of scoring…
One day, Ibaka is going to have a solid offensive game.. However, that isnt right now.. Perk is never gonna score more than 8 point a game.. Thabo is almost the same way. Never gonna consistantly get double digits from him.. I feel like they need to play Harden alot more.. Probably start him.. Westbrook can defend, Durant is a pretty good defender, Ibaka and Perk are fantastic defenders. Harden isnt awful is he??
From what I have seen, he isnt soo bad on defense that he has to be benched all the time for Thabo…
A big problem for the Thunder is that right now, Thabo, Ibaka, and Perk are all under 10 points per game… You cant have that with a championship team.. When Ibaka becomes a 15 ppg guy and Harden is playing 30+ minutes, they are a championship team.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:46pm #529500

What The DevilParticipantThe only problem I see with starting Harden is it depletes bench scoring a lot. Other than that I would be completely fine with that if I were a Thunder fan.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:59pm #529503

The8thDeadlySinParticipantRobinson is a 11 ppg career guy who has scored as high as 17 ppg for a season..
Cook is a 8 ppg guy for his career and has been as high as 9 a game…
Collison is a 7 ppg for his career and has been as high as 10ppg…
Nazir is a 7 ppg guy and has been as high as 13 per game..
And, they have a first round pick around 24 in the draft that could be Kyle Singler or Chandler Parsons who are 2 guys ready to step in and play off the bench… IMO, they would be fine…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:05pm #529504

What The DevilParticipantI just noticed Robinson hasn’t been getting any playing time. Is he hurt or just in Brooks doghouse? He is a guy who can do some major scoring off the bench so I have no clue why they aren’t using him if he isn’t hurt.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:07pm #529506

The8thDeadlySinParticipantHe is just coming off an injury and you dont insert a guy like him into a championship team in the playoffs….. Thats just how it works.. He would destroy chemistry if he played right now.. Next year, he will be a factor.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:09pm #529509

What The DevilParticipantIf people thought Westbrook cost them games with some bad decisions…wait until they see Nate on a bad night
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:50pm #529511
NYK2010ParticipantSeems like Durant took more shots in the 4th qtr in the regular season and in the 1st round of the playoffs but who knows.
Westbrook isn’t Derrick Rose he needs to get Durant the ball more
They blew a big lead and wasted possessions with Westbrook going 1 on 1 with 7 turnovers.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:56pm #529512

llperezI pretty much agree with ts. Westbrook is the same Player he has alwYs been. Funny because last season when durant got comPletly locked up by arrest And shot 34% for the series and Westbrook carried Okc nobody was comPlaining about Westbrook.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 9:31pm #529524

RUDEBOY_ParticipantWhere are all the people that were asking who was the better point guard Westbrook or Rose?
It seemed like everyday during the regular season,someone was creating a post asking that Question…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:05pm #529530
johnecoParticipantRose is better, but I still say it’s not by much. Their games are similar. I still like Westbrook. His game has some serious holes, but we’re talking about a very young player in his first serious post-season run. He’s still producing at a very high level, and will only get better, he’s not the problem.
OKC’s problem is they have no 3rd scorer IMO. Like someone said above, Memphis defense has had success in single coverage of Durant with Tony Allen, and are collapsing on Westbrook, and there’s noone else to take the pressure off them.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/08/2011 - 1:37am #529532

surveParticipant….and one of the differences between him and Rose is….Rose has no Durant, so for those watching, its easier to see a team like the Bulls live and die with Rose. Westbrook is a tremendous talent, but Rose has always played PG. RW is trying to learn this position on the job, its not as easy as you guys make it seem it should be. Westbrook is very raw…and Durant is still raw for that matter…particularly his one on one game. You keep these guys together I say….and you will have a Magic/Worthy, Jordan/Pippen type combination because they are both going to improve…and years from now, you may look back on this time early in their careers and laugh about it.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/08/2011 - 3:20am #529536

LawDeeZeeParticipantWe can kill Westbrook on here all we want, his decision making at times … is suspect, but i think a lot of us knew that about his game heading into these playoffs. I think part of the reason it’s standing out moreso in these playoffs then it had in the regular season are two things …
1. Obviously when you’re winning, everything is golden! Winning cures everything and OKC won enough regular season games that they’re weaknesses weren’t overwhelmingly glaring.
2. Tony Allen is draped ALL OVER kevin durant making his catches very difficult and then smothering him when he does get the ball. For us to ignore the defense that tony allen played on durant in the 4th quarter yesterday would be irresponsible as basketball fans. None of his catches were easy, on the last couple of plays durant had to come all the way over to westbrook to basically take a handoff just to get his touch. If I recall correctly, Durant was something like 0-7 from the field with Allen single covering him down the stretch.
… now what this does is, in making durant work so hard for his catch is milk the shot clock, so when the ball denial is ultimately successful the ball is stuck in westbrooks hands with less then 10 seconds on the clock and now he feels like he’s got to make something happen (if you watch the bulls, their offense gets bogged down the same way at times when korver enters the game, they look for him right up until it’s time for whoever has the ball to make a move or take a violation). It’s easy to throw westbrook under the bus here, because he has made questionable decisions for much of the season and some of these playoffs, but what tony allen is doing to durant isn’t making things any easier for them.
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