Foul Play from BK Nets?

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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 1:43pm #51192

Sharp Shooter
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Apparently nba owners around the league are suspicious of the recent signee, and his recent “paycut” to play with the Nets. Moreover, they want the league to investigate the contract of Andrei Kirilenko.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1702242-nba-owners-reportedly-suspicious-of-andrei-kirilenkos-contract-with-nets
I know some people argue that he wants to win a championship, but Kirilenko demanded more money from teams like San Antonio, who are title contenders. But he took the 3.5 mil from the nets
Do you think that there is foul play from Mikhail Prokhorovov ?
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:07pm #819507

CodySLC
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Vets take less money all the time to sign with a good team and try to get a ring. I doubt this case is any different.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:07pm #819604

CodySLC
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Vets take less money all the time to sign with a good team and try to get a ring. I doubt this case is any different.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:12pm #819509

Grandmama
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Nope, he took less money to play for a title. I highly doubt money is an issue for Kirilenko, and if it was he would have stayed in Minnesota. Conspiracy theorists will say, well he’s Russian, the owner’s Russian, and he took less money, so there has to be collusion. He wants to try to win a title, it’s that simple.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:12pm #819606

Grandmama
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Nope, he took less money to play for a title. I highly doubt money is an issue for Kirilenko, and if it was he would have stayed in Minnesota. Conspiracy theorists will say, well he’s Russian, the owner’s Russian, and he took less money, so there has to be collusion. He wants to try to win a title, it’s that simple.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:19pm #819511

Mikez
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Like I said a few days ago Prokhorov has his family…
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:19pm #819608

Mikez
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Like I said a few days ago Prokhorov has his family…
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:26pm #819514

Sharp Shooter
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If he wants to win a title why did he turn down San Antonio and OKC? He sort of comes off like a bandwagon player… Then on top of that he is 32, what are the odds of him receiving another pay day?
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:26pm #819613

Sharp Shooter
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If he wants to win a title why did he turn down San Antonio and OKC? He sort of comes off like a bandwagon player… Then on top of that he is 32, what are the odds of him receiving another pay day?
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:32pm #819518

aamir543
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Anyone who dismisses this as Kirilenko taking less money to win a championship is simply kidding them self. The Spurs said that he wouldn’t take anything less than 3 years with an annual salary at at least 8 million. He ended up taking less than half of that. He has earned 100 million in the NBA, however I believe that if the NBA really wants to monitor this, they should keep a close eye on Kirilenko’s Russian back account, lol. Someone else also mentioned that he’s probably going to play for CSKA Moscow at the end of his career, which is when Kirilenko might get some of that dough back, lol. Execs around the league are going crazy about this, lol, they think it’s rather obvious that there’s money under the table here.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:32pm #819616

aamir543
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Anyone who dismisses this as Kirilenko taking less money to win a championship is simply kidding them self. The Spurs said that he wouldn’t take anything less than 3 years with an annual salary at at least 8 million. He ended up taking less than half of that. He has earned 100 million in the NBA, however I believe that if the NBA really wants to monitor this, they should keep a close eye on Kirilenko’s Russian back account, lol. Someone else also mentioned that he’s probably going to play for CSKA Moscow at the end of his career, which is when Kirilenko might get some of that dough back, lol. Execs around the league are going crazy about this, lol, they think it’s rather obvious that there’s money under the table here.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:37pm #819520

bloodshy
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AK47 has been saying $ was a secondary concern repeatedly since his max contract with Utah ended.
Before signing w/Minn he stated clearly that he preferred Utah (where he lives & has so much history) or Brooklyn (play w/DWill again & likes the owner). Unfortunately, neither team needed him. BKN had just traded the #7 pick for Wallace and wasn’t ready to give up on that “investment” and the Jazz were giving Marvin Williams a shot. I’m certain Utah or the Nets could have signed him last year for substantially less than $10M/year, but he wasn’t in their plans. He went to Minn because they offered him far more than anyone else and the chance to play heavy minutes if he wanted. Now one of the teams he really wanted to play for has room for him to play the 3/4 and compete for the big prize.
People who have been following AK over the years know that this is unlikely to involve any shady dealings. Congrats to the Nets on a great signing.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:37pm #819618

bloodshy
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AK47 has been saying $ was a secondary concern repeatedly since his max contract with Utah ended.
Before signing w/Minn he stated clearly that he preferred Utah (where he lives & has so much history) or Brooklyn (play w/DWill again & likes the owner). Unfortunately, neither team needed him. BKN had just traded the #7 pick for Wallace and wasn’t ready to give up on that “investment” and the Jazz were giving Marvin Williams a shot. I’m certain Utah or the Nets could have signed him last year for substantially less than $10M/year, but he wasn’t in their plans. He went to Minn because they offered him far more than anyone else and the chance to play heavy minutes if he wanted. Now one of the teams he really wanted to play for has room for him to play the 3/4 and compete for the big prize.
People who have been following AK over the years know that this is unlikely to involve any shady dealings. Congrats to the Nets on a great signing.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:47pm #819523

GottaBeTheShoes
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I’d still rather play for the Spurs and feel they have a better chance than the Nets of winning it all.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 2:47pm #819620

GottaBeTheShoes
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I’d still rather play for the Spurs and feel they have a better chance than the Nets of winning it all.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 3:00pm #819536

machu46
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If AK was any other race, nobody would say anything about this.
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- Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 3:46pm #819558
  
  esperanzafleet69
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  Russian is not a race.. its a nationality… Smh…
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  - Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 9:56pm #819722
    
    machu46
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    Lol, give me a break. I was typing from my phone and clearly you understood what I was talking about.
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  - Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 9:56pm #819625
    
    machu46
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    Lol, give me a break. I was typing from my phone and clearly you understood what I was talking about.
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- Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 3:46pm #819656
  
  esperanzafleet69
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  Russian is not a race.. its a nationality… Smh…
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 3:00pm #819634

machu46
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If AK was any other race, nobody would say anything about this.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 3:15pm #819542

PrettyBoyPeeWee
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I love it, i’m glad AK47 took less money to play for the Nets,Hell everybody else take less money to play where they wanna,so there was no foul play involved (to me) if the NBA think thats foul play they better start investing every other Big City/Championship caliber team.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 3:15pm #819640

PrettyBoyPeeWee
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I love it, i’m glad AK47 took less money to play for the Nets,Hell everybody else take less money to play where they wanna,so there was no foul play involved (to me) if the NBA think thats foul play they better start investing every other Big City/Championship caliber team.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 4:29pm #819566

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Any person that thinks that their isn’t money being supplied elsewhere is naive. You don’t take 7 million less when it’s your last big contract!! What does Kirilenko care about a NBA championship…. he’s from Russia and making the dough is the dream.
Americans put more status into winning NBA championships because they grew up around it, Russians and other foreign players care more about national pride and the championships that come along with the Olympics and FIBA/European bball.
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- Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:14pm #819728
  
  AmiableBaller34
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  Is this really true, or just your presumption? I only ask because the NBA is the highest form of competition, and I know other countries look up to our star players and teams. I’d like to think that the Europeans and Friends cared more about proving themselves, and showing the world that they can hang with the big boys. Isn’t that in itself a form of national pride?
  I look at players like Deng, Parker, Ginobili, Dirk, the Gasol’s and see them elevated to a stardom and idolatry that few players can reach, and a lot of it has to do with playing for winning teams (and their great play, obv). The same could be said about players like Boris Diaw and Hedo who have become house-hold names to Casual and hardcore fans alike. They get so much more recognition and mention then players like Ilyasova, Rudy Fernandez, Navaro, or Calderon; who play(ed) for bad teams.
  Those are just my observations, and I’m interested in hearing what others have to say on the subject.
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- Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:14pm #819631
  
  AmiableBaller34
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  Is this really true, or just your presumption? I only ask because the NBA is the highest form of competition, and I know other countries look up to our star players and teams. I’d like to think that the Europeans and Friends cared more about proving themselves, and showing the world that they can hang with the big boys. Isn’t that in itself a form of national pride?
  I look at players like Deng, Parker, Ginobili, Dirk, the Gasol’s and see them elevated to a stardom and idolatry that few players can reach, and a lot of it has to do with playing for winning teams (and their great play, obv). The same could be said about players like Boris Diaw and Hedo who have become house-hold names to Casual and hardcore fans alike. They get so much more recognition and mention then players like Ilyasova, Rudy Fernandez, Navaro, or Calderon; who play(ed) for bad teams.
  Those are just my observations, and I’m interested in hearing what others have to say on the subject.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 4:29pm #819664

PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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Any person that thinks that their isn’t money being supplied elsewhere is naive. You don’t take 7 million less when it’s your last big contract!! What does Kirilenko care about a NBA championship…. he’s from Russia and making the dough is the dream.
Americans put more status into winning NBA championships because they grew up around it, Russians and other foreign players care more about national pride and the championships that come along with the Olympics and FIBA/European bball.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 4:55pm #819576

Toronto16
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I’ll tell you what’s going to happen, we’re going to see Kirilenko at the introductory press conference, he is going to have fresh bruises and a black eye, a large man is going to be standing by him holding his shoulder firmly, and Kirilenko is going to say “I am happy to take less money to compete for a title”.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 4:55pm #819674

Toronto16
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I’ll tell you what’s going to happen, we’re going to see Kirilenko at the introductory press conference, he is going to have fresh bruises and a black eye, a large man is going to be standing by him holding his shoulder firmly, and Kirilenko is going to say “I am happy to take less money to compete for a title”.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 9:15pm #819720

bobbyb
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Russians are the biggest crooks, just look how Prohk made his money. When the Soviet Union collapsed, they privatized all the countries natural resources, mainly nickel
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 9:15pm #819623

bobbyb
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Russians are the biggest crooks, just look how Prohk made his money. When the Soviet Union collapsed, they privatized all the countries natural resources, mainly nickel
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- Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:02pm #819726
  
  AmiableBaller34
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  Okay, and how is that any different from JD Rockefeller, Henry Ford, and Andrew Carnegie? How about William Penn or all the other psuedo-fuedal-lords who bought all the American land in the 17th century? Long story short, if you’re that filthy stinking rich, than you probably did something pretty grimy to get to where you are.
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- Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:02pm #819629
  
  AmiableBaller34
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  Okay, and how is that any different from JD Rockefeller, Henry Ford, and Andrew Carnegie? How about William Penn or all the other psuedo-fuedal-lords who bought all the American land in the 17th century? Long story short, if you’re that filthy stinking rich, than you probably did something pretty grimy to get to where you are.
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  - Posted on: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 4:49am #819770
    
    esperanzafleet69
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    Well let me tell you how its different from Henry Ford. Both my grandfather and father worked for Ford, and the main point of his cars was that he wanted an employee to be able to afford one..
    And in the 17th century is the 1600s friend. That alone should be a reason to take your post with a grain of salt.
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  - Posted on: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 4:49am #819673
    
    esperanzafleet69
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    Well let me tell you how its different from Henry Ford. Both my grandfather and father worked for Ford, and the main point of his cars was that he wanted an employee to be able to afford one..
    And in the 17th century is the 1600s friend. That alone should be a reason to take your post with a grain of salt.
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    - Posted on: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 6:17am #819796
      
      AmiableBaller34
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      William Penn, as well as most of the other prominent land entrepreneurs who bought most of pre-constitutional America, lived in the 1600’s so I stand true to what I said.
      While I acknowledge the good that Henry Ford did, such as increased pay and affordable cars, I still have to mention him with those other guys. Ford monopolized the motor industry, and crippled posterity into buying his version of the “modern car”. Everyone knows one of the first engines was actually powered by diesel fuel (renewable energy, you know, the big craze these days), but because of Ford and his monopoly we just threw his idea to the side (This is also one of the reasons Marijuana is illegal for those of you who didn’t know. Motor company and oil companies didn’t want people making bio-diesel out of hemp). Ford and his vision are also the reason why America has such terrible cross-continental transportation. Unless you live in or around a major market here, you better own a car (Take away public transportation, Ford sells the cheapest car, you get the picture). Men and woman go to jail everyday over stupid traffic violations such as not paying their insurance, being uninsured, ect… This dependance of a car in American culture can be traced back to your Henry Ford.
      All and all I don’t think you should take my post with a grain of salt, but look at it with an open mind. As americans we tend to idolize and glorify our past generations, but it’s always good to know what really happened back then.
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    - Posted on: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 6:17am #819699
      
      AmiableBaller34
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      William Penn, as well as most of the other prominent land entrepreneurs who bought most of pre-constitutional America, lived in the 1600’s so I stand true to what I said.
      While I acknowledge the good that Henry Ford did, such as increased pay and affordable cars, I still have to mention him with those other guys. Ford monopolized the motor industry, and crippled posterity into buying his version of the “modern car”. Everyone knows one of the first engines was actually powered by diesel fuel (renewable energy, you know, the big craze these days), but because of Ford and his monopoly we just threw his idea to the side (This is also one of the reasons Marijuana is illegal for those of you who didn’t know. Motor company and oil companies didn’t want people making bio-diesel out of hemp). Ford and his vision are also the reason why America has such terrible cross-continental transportation. Unless you live in or around a major market here, you better own a car (Take away public transportation, Ford sells the cheapest car, you get the picture). Men and woman go to jail everyday over stupid traffic violations such as not paying their insurance, being uninsured, ect… This dependance of a car in American culture can be traced back to your Henry Ford.
      All and all I don’t think you should take my post with a grain of salt, but look at it with an open mind. As americans we tend to idolize and glorify our past generations, but it’s always good to know what really happened back then.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:53pm #819736

Ahkasi Clay
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I do like that the owners raised the question and got involved. It is like when David Stern tried to trade Cris Paul to the lakers (hornets were owned by nba at the time) and the owners forced him to stop.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:53pm #819639

Ahkasi Clay
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I do like that the owners raised the question and got involved. It is like when David Stern tried to trade Cris Paul to the lakers (hornets were owned by nba at the time) and the owners forced him to stop.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:56pm #819738

Ahkasi Clay
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Howard also took less money. But to be fair that was just to get away from kobe.
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Posted on: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:56pm #819641

Ahkasi Clay
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Howard also took less money. But to be fair that was just to get away from kobe.
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Posted on: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 6:09am #819792

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Last year Teletovic and the Nets agreed to a 3 yr 15 million dollar contract only to tear it up and become a 3 yr 9 million dollar contract so they would have a better chance for a Dwight Howard trade. These types of coincidenses where money is given back to a billionaire don’t just happen in the real NBA world.
Was Teletovic signing for 6 million less so he could get a ring also?
Mikail Prokohorov has already admitted to paying bribes and conducting business in cowboy territory where there was no sheriff to amass his multi-billion dollar fortune.
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Posted on: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 6:09am #819695

PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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Last year Teletovic and the Nets agreed to a 3 yr 15 million dollar contract only to tear it up and become a 3 yr 9 million dollar contract so they would have a better chance for a Dwight Howard trade. These types of coincidenses where money is given back to a billionaire don’t just happen in the real NBA world.
Was Teletovic signing for 6 million less so he could get a ring also?
Mikail Prokohorov has already admitted to paying bribes and conducting business in cowboy territory where there was no sheriff to amass his multi-billion dollar fortune.
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Posted on: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 9:55am #819767

Shaquille Oatmeal
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Anyone who became a billionaire in the aftermath of the overthrow of the Soviet Union has done a lot more shady dealings than simply manipulating NBA rules. I wouldn’t trust Prokhorov to walk my dog across the street. If Prokhorov had no problem actively participating in a process that left millions impoverished and unemployed, I doubt he’d have much problem making side deals to sign a basketball player.
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Posted on: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 9:55am #819865

Shaquille Oatmeal
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Anyone who became a billionaire in the aftermath of the overthrow of the Soviet Union has done a lot more shady dealings than simply manipulating NBA rules. I wouldn’t trust Prokhorov to walk my dog across the street. If Prokhorov had no problem actively participating in a process that left millions impoverished and unemployed, I doubt he’d have much problem making side deals to sign a basketball player.
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