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- Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 10:10am #61080

Winning_TimeParticipantLast year was my first year of fantasy basketball and I loved it. My other league members however didn’t like roto and are probably going to switch to head to head league. Has anyone on here done head to head? How different is it? I sorta liked how in roto your roster had to gel together to make up for other players weaknesses (I had Harden to make up for Dwights free throws). I had head to head breifly explained to me and it sounds like scoring is the most important with other stats, like assists, being a class below.
Any help would be great.
Also I would love to do a roto league on here with you guys (and girls).
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 11:24am #1004168

I May Be WrongParticipantI never did roto but Head to Head (H2H) is pretty fun. And you can mask certain player flaws like you were saying in H2H as well. I think H2H can vary tho. Are you going to be in a H2H categories league and the total wins from each category counts as a point. So for example, say your league is 7 categories (total points, total assists, total rebounds, 3 pointers made, FTs made, total steals, and total blocks). You’d shift your players around each day and make sure you end with the highest total points for each category and whatever you win is reflected as your standings for that week. So if I win 5 categories, I’ll be 5-2 for that week while the opponent is 2-5. And then at the end of the season, you see who has the best "record". Or is your league set up where if I win 5/7 categories, I get the W and I’m 1-0 for the week and the opponent is 0-1. Then you see what the standings are at the end of the season?
Anyways, it’s still fun and involves strategy. A player like Dwight would be great for rebounds and potentially shot blocking. But you kind of know that each week you’ll lose that FT% category if you have it set up that way. Unless you’re stocked with the best FT shooters but its hard to get Durant, Curry, and some others all just to mask Dwight’s problems lol.
Also word of advice, injuries are a b**ch and you gotta play the waiver wire so much. Unless your league has a transaction limit, I’d look daily and keep shifting players in and out until you’re comfortable. Then towards the final weeks it gets tougher since coaches rest your stars. So all of a sudden you may drop LeBron so you can see Will Barton put up inflated stats to win. Just a little tip
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 11:24am #1004027

I May Be WrongParticipantI never did roto but Head to Head (H2H) is pretty fun. And you can mask certain player flaws like you were saying in H2H as well. I think H2H can vary tho. Are you going to be in a H2H categories league and the total wins from each category counts as a point. So for example, say your league is 7 categories (total points, total assists, total rebounds, 3 pointers made, FTs made, total steals, and total blocks). You’d shift your players around each day and make sure you end with the highest total points for each category and whatever you win is reflected as your standings for that week. So if I win 5 categories, I’ll be 5-2 for that week while the opponent is 2-5. And then at the end of the season, you see who has the best "record". Or is your league set up where if I win 5/7 categories, I get the W and I’m 1-0 for the week and the opponent is 0-1. Then you see what the standings are at the end of the season?
Anyways, it’s still fun and involves strategy. A player like Dwight would be great for rebounds and potentially shot blocking. But you kind of know that each week you’ll lose that FT% category if you have it set up that way. Unless you’re stocked with the best FT shooters but its hard to get Durant, Curry, and some others all just to mask Dwight’s problems lol.
Also word of advice, injuries are a b**ch and you gotta play the waiver wire so much. Unless your league has a transaction limit, I’d look daily and keep shifting players in and out until you’re comfortable. Then towards the final weeks it gets tougher since coaches rest your stars. So all of a sudden you may drop LeBron so you can see Will Barton put up inflated stats to win. Just a little tip
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 11:35am #1004172

Winning_TimeParticipantI think it’s gonna be the like 1-0 system you were describing. Oh I worked the waiver last year, I had Kemba, Dwight, and Griffin get hurt at the same exact time lmao it cost me the league (came in second)
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 11:35am #1004031

Winning_TimeParticipantI think it’s gonna be the like 1-0 system you were describing. Oh I worked the waiver last year, I had Kemba, Dwight, and Griffin get hurt at the same exact time lmao it cost me the league (came in second)
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 11:30am #1004170

I May Be WrongParticipantIt gets tougher when percentages are the categories. This is where FT’s and 3pt percentage, and FG percentage would come into play. So even if my team scored 500 points on 40% and your team scores 250 points on 45% shooting, you’d "win" that category if its FG%…. i know… it sucks but it’s also fun lol. That’s what I meant by if you’re comfortable giving up certain categories. When you realize what categories count, your draft strategy can change.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 11:30am #1004029

I May Be WrongParticipantIt gets tougher when percentages are the categories. This is where FT’s and 3pt percentage, and FG percentage would come into play. So even if my team scored 500 points on 40% and your team scores 250 points on 45% shooting, you’d "win" that category if its FG%…. i know… it sucks but it’s also fun lol. That’s what I meant by if you’re comfortable giving up certain categories. When you realize what categories count, your draft strategy can change.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 5:01pm #1004107
dremill24ParticipantYou have to draft with a different mindset. The Paul Millsap’s, Nic Batum’s, Al Horford’s of the world, while still valuable, arent going to help you nearly as much as they would in roto. Theyre great filling up the stat sheet, but dont put up dominating totals in any one category. If you try to win all 8-10 categories it will backfire. Youll end up barely losing in a lot of them. Yes, big time scorers hold a lot of value, because they can dominate PTS, FG%, 3PM, FT% all by themselves and anything else is a bonus.
Youre just not going to win all cats, so one or two have to be ‘punted.’ If you cant get the high-end PGs who get a lot of assists at the top of the draft, you go with PG-eligible guys who help you in other or more unconventional areas, like REB or PTS. If you end up with Drummond, Howard, DJ, then forget about FT%, just ignore it lol it becomes ok to add someone who also has that weakness.
Player raters and such are less important, as they measure overall coverage of all cats. Go with guys who dominate a few early, then the well-rounded guys can.put you over the top later.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 5:01pm #1004247
dremill24ParticipantYou have to draft with a different mindset. The Paul Millsap’s, Nic Batum’s, Al Horford’s of the world, while still valuable, arent going to help you nearly as much as they would in roto. Theyre great filling up the stat sheet, but dont put up dominating totals in any one category. If you try to win all 8-10 categories it will backfire. Youll end up barely losing in a lot of them. Yes, big time scorers hold a lot of value, because they can dominate PTS, FG%, 3PM, FT% all by themselves and anything else is a bonus.
Youre just not going to win all cats, so one or two have to be ‘punted.’ If you cant get the high-end PGs who get a lot of assists at the top of the draft, you go with PG-eligible guys who help you in other or more unconventional areas, like REB or PTS. If you end up with Drummond, Howard, DJ, then forget about FT%, just ignore it lol it becomes ok to add someone who also has that weakness.
Player raters and such are less important, as they measure overall coverage of all cats. Go with guys who dominate a few early, then the well-rounded guys can.put you over the top later.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 5:34pm #1004113
benny15Participantid say the biggest thing that differs to me between Roto and Head to head is punting categories. in roto, the team that normally top 3-5 in all categories will normally win since you wont have a single category that will drag you down. in Head to head though, you can be the absolute worst in 3 cats and it wont matter if youre flat out dominant on the other 5 or 6, depending how many cats your league plays.
DeAndre Jordan to me is much more valuable in H2H since you he can single handedly win your blocks and will cary a heavy load in FG% and Rebs while abandoning the FT%. due to the minimal amount of times he handles the ball, he also helps a lot in the Turnover cat. in roto though, you will need guys such as James Harden or Russell Westbrook who will help off-set it with their high percentage, but more importantly high volume of Free Throw Attempts.
in contrast, a guy such as Trevor Ariza who can help lead your team in steals, cary a heavy load of 3s while not being an anchor in any categories with his low turn overs and decent shooting percentages is much more valued in roto leagues since filling your team with players like him will allow you to get a good standing and points from accross the board
H2H i believe is gennerally more popular because it allows teams that come from a bad start to the season catch up. you can loose your first 6 weeks but if you go on a run the rest of the way, you can still get to the play-offs and anything happens then due to teams sitting out star players, etc. In Roto, a bad start to the season can prove to be your doom and you wont be able to recover if youre too far behind since stats accumalate the whole season.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 5:34pm #1004253
benny15Participantid say the biggest thing that differs to me between Roto and Head to head is punting categories. in roto, the team that normally top 3-5 in all categories will normally win since you wont have a single category that will drag you down. in Head to head though, you can be the absolute worst in 3 cats and it wont matter if youre flat out dominant on the other 5 or 6, depending how many cats your league plays.
DeAndre Jordan to me is much more valuable in H2H since you he can single handedly win your blocks and will cary a heavy load in FG% and Rebs while abandoning the FT%. due to the minimal amount of times he handles the ball, he also helps a lot in the Turnover cat. in roto though, you will need guys such as James Harden or Russell Westbrook who will help off-set it with their high percentage, but more importantly high volume of Free Throw Attempts.
in contrast, a guy such as Trevor Ariza who can help lead your team in steals, cary a heavy load of 3s while not being an anchor in any categories with his low turn overs and decent shooting percentages is much more valued in roto leagues since filling your team with players like him will allow you to get a good standing and points from accross the board
H2H i believe is gennerally more popular because it allows teams that come from a bad start to the season catch up. you can loose your first 6 weeks but if you go on a run the rest of the way, you can still get to the play-offs and anything happens then due to teams sitting out star players, etc. In Roto, a bad start to the season can prove to be your doom and you wont be able to recover if youre too far behind since stats accumalate the whole season.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 10:04pm #1004301

ExumInfernoParticipantYou just have to draft for the league playoffs, so look at the schedule and the best NBA players with the most games in the last week or two of the fantasy season will win the league, often.
There is punting a category or two. So if you draft D Jordan or D Howard, then saying goodbye to FT% and adding Rondo, J Smith and others is a popular tactic.
When waiving and signing, either look at the schedules yourself or check the fantasy sports sites as they will point out who plays more often that week. If an average player at 24 minutes a game has 4 or 5 games they are better for your team that week than a slightly above average player who gets 28 minutes a game but only has 2 games that week.
There is probably a maximum number of transactions per team per week too, so read the rules there. But use them, as you are at least taking away players other teams would want too.
Check the Thursday game schedule, this can be when only 4 or 6 teams play and often the bigger profile teams. So with a few more of them on your roster, you may have 4 starters on your fantasy team on that day while others will only have 2. Then on Friday you and your opponent might have all starters playing, but your bench players don’t while his bench players do, but you are winning that as his bench players don’t count for stats.
I prefer roto, but as long as most GMs are active and making fair trade offers any league can be good. But if you want to win the league, pick a team that will be strong in the fantasy playoffs.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/28/2015 - 10:04pm #1004161

ExumInfernoParticipantYou just have to draft for the league playoffs, so look at the schedule and the best NBA players with the most games in the last week or two of the fantasy season will win the league, often.
There is punting a category or two. So if you draft D Jordan or D Howard, then saying goodbye to FT% and adding Rondo, J Smith and others is a popular tactic.
When waiving and signing, either look at the schedules yourself or check the fantasy sports sites as they will point out who plays more often that week. If an average player at 24 minutes a game has 4 or 5 games they are better for your team that week than a slightly above average player who gets 28 minutes a game but only has 2 games that week.
There is probably a maximum number of transactions per team per week too, so read the rules there. But use them, as you are at least taking away players other teams would want too.
Check the Thursday game schedule, this can be when only 4 or 6 teams play and often the bigger profile teams. So with a few more of them on your roster, you may have 4 starters on your fantasy team on that day while others will only have 2. Then on Friday you and your opponent might have all starters playing, but your bench players don’t while his bench players do, but you are winning that as his bench players don’t count for stats.
I prefer roto, but as long as most GMs are active and making fair trade offers any league can be good. But if you want to win the league, pick a team that will be strong in the fantasy playoffs.
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