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  • #23498
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    Sonny Red
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    This is getting scary, second pick in the draft goes back to back games without scoring a basket? I’ve been down on him since the start of the season, but have shown restraint, that is coming to an end now though…. He has no confidence at all and looks totally lost on the court.

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  • #445239
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    JoeWolf1

    Getting scary? it’s 16 games into his career and he’s had a couple off games ( he’s only 0-2 ).  Rookies often have up and down seasons and a couple weeks ago when he logged his first double double and had a couple 16 point games no one was throwing red flags.  He’ll bounce back, he isn’t having as big of an impact as many thought last spring, but he’s not a bad player.  I think he’ll still end the year at about 11 ppg and 6 rpg.

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  • #445245
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    JoeWolf1

    Getting scary? it’s 16 games into his career and he’s had a couple off games ( he’s only 0-2 ).  Rookies often have up and down seasons and a couple weeks ago when he logged his first double double and had a couple 16 point games no one was throwing red flags.  He’ll bounce back, he isn’t having as big of an impact as many thought last spring, but he’s not a bad player.  I think he’ll still end the year at about 11 ppg and 6 rpg.

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  • #445255
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    JoeWolf1

    Getting scary? it’s 16 games into his career and he’s had a couple off games ( he’s only 0-2 ).  Rookies often have up and down seasons and a couple weeks ago when he logged his first double double and had a couple 16 point games no one was throwing red flags.  He’ll bounce back, he isn’t having as big of an impact as many thought last spring, but he’s not a bad player.  I think he’ll still end the year at about 11 ppg and 6 rpg.

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  • #445242
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    llperez

    he’ll be fine. His jumper needs a lot of work though, his mid range jumper from 15-18 feet doesnt even look good right now. But he has the tools to put it together eventually. The sixers are a mess right now. I didnt expect them to be so bad defensively.

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  • #445248
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    llperez

    he’ll be fine. His jumper needs a lot of work though, his mid range jumper from 15-18 feet doesnt even look good right now. But he has the tools to put it together eventually. The sixers are a mess right now. I didnt expect them to be so bad defensively.

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  • #445258
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    llperez

    he’ll be fine. His jumper needs a lot of work though, his mid range jumper from 15-18 feet doesnt even look good right now. But he has the tools to put it together eventually. The sixers are a mess right now. I didnt expect them to be so bad defensively.

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  • #445244
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    delfam
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    He was doing fine when Iguodala was out with an injury, but since he’s come back there really aren’t that many shots for Turner. Between Holiday,Brand,Iggy, and Lou Williams, Turner doesn’t get many opportunities to score. Sixers best option would be to trade Iggy which would really help Turner’s progress.

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  • #445250
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    delfam
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    He was doing fine when Iguodala was out with an injury, but since he’s come back there really aren’t that many shots for Turner. Between Holiday,Brand,Iggy, and Lou Williams, Turner doesn’t get many opportunities to score. Sixers best option would be to trade Iggy which would really help Turner’s progress.

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  • #445261
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    delfam
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    He was doing fine when Iguodala was out with an injury, but since he’s come back there really aren’t that many shots for Turner. Between Holiday,Brand,Iggy, and Lou Williams, Turner doesn’t get many opportunities to score. Sixers best option would be to trade Iggy which would really help Turner’s progress.

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  • #445263
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    It is the first month of his rookie season. There is nothing scary about an adjustment period. We can literally assemble an All-Star team of players who were disgustingly bad for the first half of their rookie years.

     

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  • #445268
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    It is the first month of his rookie season. There is nothing scary about an adjustment period. We can literally assemble an All-Star team of players who were disgustingly bad for the first half of their rookie years.

     

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  • #445278
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    It is the first month of his rookie season. There is nothing scary about an adjustment period. We can literally assemble an All-Star team of players who were disgustingly bad for the first half of their rookie years.

     

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  • #445270
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    canesboy6
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    He will be ok. I dont see a superstar. Keep in mind he was a junior, so his learning curve shouldn’t be as steep as it is appearing. I think it comes down to a few things.

    1. He isn’t a great athlete at the NBA level. He is solid, but not a standout.

    2. His role at Ohio state padded his stats. He was bigger and better at that level, and Matta let him just run around all over the place, be 100 percent ball dominant, and chase the ball on defense. You cant do those things in the pros. He isn’t used to the matchup style offense and defense of the NBA. The style of play that worked for him then is completely void at this level. In college he was a Lebron type all around threat but he just isn’t close to the kind of athlete or big enough to pull it off at this level.

    3. He’s a rookie. He has potential. It took him a while at Ohio State to get going too.

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  • #445274
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    canesboy6
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    He will be ok. I dont see a superstar. Keep in mind he was a junior, so his learning curve shouldn’t be as steep as it is appearing. I think it comes down to a few things.

    1. He isn’t a great athlete at the NBA level. He is solid, but not a standout.

    2. His role at Ohio state padded his stats. He was bigger and better at that level, and Matta let him just run around all over the place, be 100 percent ball dominant, and chase the ball on defense. You cant do those things in the pros. He isn’t used to the matchup style offense and defense of the NBA. The style of play that worked for him then is completely void at this level. In college he was a Lebron type all around threat but he just isn’t close to the kind of athlete or big enough to pull it off at this level.

    3. He’s a rookie. He has potential. It took him a while at Ohio State to get going too.

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  • #445285
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    canesboy6
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    He will be ok. I dont see a superstar. Keep in mind he was a junior, so his learning curve shouldn’t be as steep as it is appearing. I think it comes down to a few things.

    1. He isn’t a great athlete at the NBA level. He is solid, but not a standout.

    2. His role at Ohio state padded his stats. He was bigger and better at that level, and Matta let him just run around all over the place, be 100 percent ball dominant, and chase the ball on defense. You cant do those things in the pros. He isn’t used to the matchup style offense and defense of the NBA. The style of play that worked for him then is completely void at this level. In college he was a Lebron type all around threat but he just isn’t close to the kind of athlete or big enough to pull it off at this level.

    3. He’s a rookie. He has potential. It took him a while at Ohio State to get going too.

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  • #445292
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    Deron Williams spent three years at Illinois-

    38 percent shooting, 9 points, 4 assists per game before the ASB of his rookie year

    Joakim Noah spent three much praised years at Florida-

    5.0 points, 4.7 rebounds, 44 percent shooting before the ASB, and his suspended by his teammates for being an idiot. And in his first month, he was at 3 points and 3 rebounds on 36 percent shooting.

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  • #445299
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    Deron Williams spent three years at Illinois-

    38 percent shooting, 9 points, 4 assists per game before the ASB of his rookie year

    Joakim Noah spent three much praised years at Florida-

    5.0 points, 4.7 rebounds, 44 percent shooting before the ASB, and his suspended by his teammates for being an idiot. And in his first month, he was at 3 points and 3 rebounds on 36 percent shooting.

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  • #445309
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    Deron Williams spent three years at Illinois-

    38 percent shooting, 9 points, 4 assists per game before the ASB of his rookie year

    Joakim Noah spent three much praised years at Florida-

    5.0 points, 4.7 rebounds, 44 percent shooting before the ASB, and his suspended by his teammates for being an idiot. And in his first month, he was at 3 points and 3 rebounds on 36 percent shooting.

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  • #445313
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    ilike.panochas
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    He’s still doing the little things (rebounding, and passing), so it’s not like he’s been a zero factor for the Sixers. Players eventually become a better scorer as their career goes on, so it will come around for Turner offensively.

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  • #445321
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    ilike.panochas
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    He’s still doing the little things (rebounding, and passing), so it’s not like he’s been a zero factor for the Sixers. Players eventually become a better scorer as their career goes on, so it will come around for Turner offensively.

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  • #445328
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    ilike.panochas
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    He’s still doing the little things (rebounding, and passing), so it’s not like he’s been a zero factor for the Sixers. Players eventually become a better scorer as their career goes on, so it will come around for Turner offensively.

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  • #445316
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    Sonny Red
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    "He was doing fine when Iguodala was out with an injury, but since he’s come back there really aren’t that many shots for Turner. Between Holiday,Brand,Iggy, and Lou Williams, Turner doesn’t get many opportunities to score. Sixers best option would be to trade Iggy which would really help Turner’s progress."

    I agree Iguodala is not helping his development, but I can’t see the Sixers being able to get rid of Iggy with his max contract, and if they do they are going to get another teams scrub, like the Sammy Delembert trade. It is difficult watching Turner play when other rookies are playing so well, when Turner was supposed to be the most NBA ready. He has gone against John Wall twice, both games Wall was great and played a major part in his teams win, while Turner played a major part in his teams loss. The game this week vs the Wiz Turner missed two free throws with a few seconds left when the Sixers had a 3 point lead, would have sealed the game, then Wall gets failed shooting a 3, and sinks all 3 free throws with no problem. Then the game goes into OT and with the Sixers up 1 or tied, Turner lets Nick Young to get a WIDE open 3 to win the game, he looked totally lost on the play. The other game against the Wizards the Sixers were up late again and could have killed the clock but Turner got stripped in the backcourt by John Wall.

    I know it is only the start of the season, but I’ve watched every Sixers game and he is playing bad, no confidence at all. His jump shot is terrible, looks like, when he drives to the basket he looks like a nut, ala Iguodala. It’s been a frustraiting year, I didn’t expect the Sixers to be a great team by any stretch, but to have 13 losses in their first 16 games with the some of the teams they’ve played is a disgrace, and certainly not Turners fault, but he doesn’t make me excited about the future. Sometimes I think the more a guy stays in college the more it hurts his game in the long run, guys can get away with so much in college just because of their athleticism they don’t work on their fundamentals as much as they should.

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  • #445324
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    Sonny Red
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    "He was doing fine when Iguodala was out with an injury, but since he’s come back there really aren’t that many shots for Turner. Between Holiday,Brand,Iggy, and Lou Williams, Turner doesn’t get many opportunities to score. Sixers best option would be to trade Iggy which would really help Turner’s progress."

    I agree Iguodala is not helping his development, but I can’t see the Sixers being able to get rid of Iggy with his max contract, and if they do they are going to get another teams scrub, like the Sammy Delembert trade. It is difficult watching Turner play when other rookies are playing so well, when Turner was supposed to be the most NBA ready. He has gone against John Wall twice, both games Wall was great and played a major part in his teams win, while Turner played a major part in his teams loss. The game this week vs the Wiz Turner missed two free throws with a few seconds left when the Sixers had a 3 point lead, would have sealed the game, then Wall gets failed shooting a 3, and sinks all 3 free throws with no problem. Then the game goes into OT and with the Sixers up 1 or tied, Turner lets Nick Young to get a WIDE open 3 to win the game, he looked totally lost on the play. The other game against the Wizards the Sixers were up late again and could have killed the clock but Turner got stripped in the backcourt by John Wall.

    I know it is only the start of the season, but I’ve watched every Sixers game and he is playing bad, no confidence at all. His jump shot is terrible, looks like, when he drives to the basket he looks like a nut, ala Iguodala. It’s been a frustraiting year, I didn’t expect the Sixers to be a great team by any stretch, but to have 13 losses in their first 16 games with the some of the teams they’ve played is a disgrace, and certainly not Turners fault, but he doesn’t make me excited about the future. Sometimes I think the more a guy stays in college the more it hurts his game in the long run, guys can get away with so much in college just because of their athleticism they don’t work on their fundamentals as much as they should.

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  • #445331
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    Sonny Red
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    "He was doing fine when Iguodala was out with an injury, but since he’s come back there really aren’t that many shots for Turner. Between Holiday,Brand,Iggy, and Lou Williams, Turner doesn’t get many opportunities to score. Sixers best option would be to trade Iggy which would really help Turner’s progress."

    I agree Iguodala is not helping his development, but I can’t see the Sixers being able to get rid of Iggy with his max contract, and if they do they are going to get another teams scrub, like the Sammy Delembert trade. It is difficult watching Turner play when other rookies are playing so well, when Turner was supposed to be the most NBA ready. He has gone against John Wall twice, both games Wall was great and played a major part in his teams win, while Turner played a major part in his teams loss. The game this week vs the Wiz Turner missed two free throws with a few seconds left when the Sixers had a 3 point lead, would have sealed the game, then Wall gets failed shooting a 3, and sinks all 3 free throws with no problem. Then the game goes into OT and with the Sixers up 1 or tied, Turner lets Nick Young to get a WIDE open 3 to win the game, he looked totally lost on the play. The other game against the Wizards the Sixers were up late again and could have killed the clock but Turner got stripped in the backcourt by John Wall.

    I know it is only the start of the season, but I’ve watched every Sixers game and he is playing bad, no confidence at all. His jump shot is terrible, looks like, when he drives to the basket he looks like a nut, ala Iguodala. It’s been a frustraiting year, I didn’t expect the Sixers to be a great team by any stretch, but to have 13 losses in their first 16 games with the some of the teams they’ve played is a disgrace, and certainly not Turners fault, but he doesn’t make me excited about the future. Sometimes I think the more a guy stays in college the more it hurts his game in the long run, guys can get away with so much in college just because of their athleticism they don’t work on their fundamentals as much as they should.

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  • #445345
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    jaysmith1987
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    He isnt doing to bad hes a rookie alot of peole have improved drastically even after staying in college.  He was a late bloomer in college he will probably be a late bloomer in the nba.  Shoot Steve Nash didnt become great until he was with the Suns and it took him a while to develop and he spent all four years in college.  Im not saying Evan Turner is the next Nash but he has a great oppurtunity to be a future all star rookie stats mean nothing.  Who would have thought Kevin Love would be this good his rookie season on opposite end you see Tyreke Evans everyones favorite to become mini Lebron is not doing much this year.  Its fun to watch rookies and predict there career but truth is majority of times the rookie of the year isnt the person who ends up being the best player.

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  • #445350
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    jaysmith1987
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    He isnt doing to bad hes a rookie alot of peole have improved drastically even after staying in college.  He was a late bloomer in college he will probably be a late bloomer in the nba.  Shoot Steve Nash didnt become great until he was with the Suns and it took him a while to develop and he spent all four years in college.  Im not saying Evan Turner is the next Nash but he has a great oppurtunity to be a future all star rookie stats mean nothing.  Who would have thought Kevin Love would be this good his rookie season on opposite end you see Tyreke Evans everyones favorite to become mini Lebron is not doing much this year.  Its fun to watch rookies and predict there career but truth is majority of times the rookie of the year isnt the person who ends up being the best player.

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  • #445358
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    jaysmith1987
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    He isnt doing to bad hes a rookie alot of peole have improved drastically even after staying in college.  He was a late bloomer in college he will probably be a late bloomer in the nba.  Shoot Steve Nash didnt become great until he was with the Suns and it took him a while to develop and he spent all four years in college.  Im not saying Evan Turner is the next Nash but he has a great oppurtunity to be a future all star rookie stats mean nothing.  Who would have thought Kevin Love would be this good his rookie season on opposite end you see Tyreke Evans everyones favorite to become mini Lebron is not doing much this year.  Its fun to watch rookies and predict there career but truth is majority of times the rookie of the year isnt the person who ends up being the best player.

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  • #445351
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    This team slowed his career by drafting him. He should be getting a lot of minutes to make mistakes and handle the ball to work his game out. I never understood why they took him if they are going to keep Iggy. One has to go.

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  • #445356
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    This team slowed his career by drafting him. He should be getting a lot of minutes to make mistakes and handle the ball to work his game out. I never understood why they took him if they are going to keep Iggy. One has to go.

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  • #445364
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    This team slowed his career by drafting him. He should be getting a lot of minutes to make mistakes and handle the ball to work his game out. I never understood why they took him if they are going to keep Iggy. One has to go.

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  • #445357
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    canesboy6
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    Turner is never nearly as good as Igoudala is.

    I think its kind of a bum pick by Philly, but who else would they take? Favors may not be a star either. Cousins probably will, but I think his rookie contract will be sort of rough years for the Kings because he is still a kid, acts like one, and plays like one at times.

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  • #445362
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    canesboy6
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    Turner is never nearly as good as Igoudala is.

    I think its kind of a bum pick by Philly, but who else would they take? Favors may not be a star either. Cousins probably will, but I think his rookie contract will be sort of rough years for the Kings because he is still a kid, acts like one, and plays like one at times.

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  • #445370
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    canesboy6
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    Turner is never nearly as good as Igoudala is.

    I think its kind of a bum pick by Philly, but who else would they take? Favors may not be a star either. Cousins probably will, but I think his rookie contract will be sort of rough years for the Kings because he is still a kid, acts like one, and plays like one at times.

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  • #445372
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    Malik-Universal
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    GOOSE FRABA EVERYONE… GOOSE FRABA

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    Malik-Universal
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    GOOSE FRABA EVERYONE… GOOSE FRABA

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    Malik-Universal
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    GOOSE FRABA EVERYONE… GOOSE FRABA

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  • #445422
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    Turner is having the same problems Beasley had with his first team. Turner is an isolation type playmaker, and scorer. He needs the ball plain and simple. He is not the guy you get to play off the ball offense, and hardnose defense. That is not his game. Turner is an elite scorer great rebounder, and good playmaker, but too score and make plays he needs the ball.

    I have also noticed Jrue Holiday seems reluctant to pass Turner the ball alot of the time, even when Turner is hot. Ive also seen Turner yell for the ball on several occasions get frustrated and throw his arms in the air. Philly needs to trade Igoudala to justify their draft selection, I think that is why they are maxing at his minutes at the moment. So his price tag can be as high as possible.

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  • #445424
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    Turner is having the same problems Beasley had with his first team. Turner is an isolation type playmaker, and scorer. He needs the ball plain and simple. He is not the guy you get to play off the ball offense, and hardnose defense. That is not his game. Turner is an elite scorer great rebounder, and good playmaker, but too score and make plays he needs the ball.

    I have also noticed Jrue Holiday seems reluctant to pass Turner the ball alot of the time, even when Turner is hot. Ive also seen Turner yell for the ball on several occasions get frustrated and throw his arms in the air. Philly needs to trade Igoudala to justify their draft selection, I think that is why they are maxing at his minutes at the moment. So his price tag can be as high as possible.

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  • #445431
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    OhCanada-
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    Turner is having the same problems Beasley had with his first team. Turner is an isolation type playmaker, and scorer. He needs the ball plain and simple. He is not the guy you get to play off the ball offense, and hardnose defense. That is not his game. Turner is an elite scorer great rebounder, and good playmaker, but too score and make plays he needs the ball.

    I have also noticed Jrue Holiday seems reluctant to pass Turner the ball alot of the time, even when Turner is hot. Ive also seen Turner yell for the ball on several occasions get frustrated and throw his arms in the air. Philly needs to trade Igoudala to justify their draft selection, I think that is why they are maxing at his minutes at the moment. So his price tag can be as high as possible.

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  • #445532
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    JoeWolf1

     Pretty funny how BTPH makes a very similar point than I do and he is +2 and I’m -1

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  • #445536
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    JoeWolf1

     Pretty funny how BTPH makes a very similar point than I do and he is +2 and I’m -1

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  • #445546
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    JoeWolf1

     Pretty funny how BTPH makes a very similar point than I do and he is +2 and I’m -1

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