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  • #58175
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    don042488
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    “The Kid” had 21 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 block in his preseason debut in China. Although he’s playing against players far less athletic than him, impressive coming from a 18 year old playing against men. I would love to see him go to either the Bucks or Pacers

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  • #951843
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     lets their American players gun a lot in their games. That’s why many Americans put up huge scoring numbers there. I think it was a better decision to go to China rather than Spain or Eastern Europe. Those teams tend to try and reign American scorers into their system rather than give them a green light like China does.

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    • #951867
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       why is that a good thing? one of the reasons why the quality of basketball in the CBA sucks is because of the lack of structure. he’ll definitely learn less there than in europe.

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    • #952004
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       why is that a good thing? one of the reasons why the quality of basketball in the CBA sucks is because of the lack of structure. he’ll definitely learn less there than in europe.

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    • #952081
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      I agree with chewy on this one. Its nice to learn in europe with their more team oriented style but Mudiay, as a point, needs to learn to lead. Over in europe you get barried on the pine and as odd as it seems you might not learn as much as a star player doing this. Stars need to take charge, and if Brandon Jenning, running around like a chicken with his head cut off, has taught us anything, its that you don’t always learn to play nba point over in europe. mudiay would have learned to take reigns at SMU but lets face it, school isnt for everyone. He will be just fine and it will do wonders for his confidence.

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    • #951945
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      I agree with chewy on this one. Its nice to learn in europe with their more team oriented style but Mudiay, as a point, needs to learn to lead. Over in europe you get barried on the pine and as odd as it seems you might not learn as much as a star player doing this. Stars need to take charge, and if Brandon Jenning, running around like a chicken with his head cut off, has taught us anything, its that you don’t always learn to play nba point over in europe. mudiay would have learned to take reigns at SMU but lets face it, school isnt for everyone. He will be just fine and it will do wonders for his confidence.

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      • #952089
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        GBee
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         jennings didnt learn anything his 1 yr in europe because he’s a dumb ass. still is.

        players learn the game and earn their keep in europe. that’s way more valuable than getting carte blanche in a crappy league with poor structure and competition, both in games and practices.  that’s the type of environment where players develop or foster bad habits that they have to unlearn when they face better comp.

         

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      • #951953
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         jennings didnt learn anything his 1 yr in europe because he’s a dumb ass. still is.

        players learn the game and earn their keep in europe. that’s way more valuable than getting carte blanche in a crappy league with poor structure and competition, both in games and practices.  that’s the type of environment where players develop or foster bad habits that they have to unlearn when they face better comp.

         

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  • #951980
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     lets their American players gun a lot in their games. That’s why many Americans put up huge scoring numbers there. I think it was a better decision to go to China rather than Spain or Eastern Europe. Those teams tend to try and reign American scorers into their system rather than give them a green light like China does.

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  • #951857
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    In my opinion, Mudiay will not improve playing in China. He made a great financial decision because he will be getting paid, but a poor basketball development decision. Whoever his coach in in China I’m almost positive is nowhere close to Larry Brown in his knowledge of the game. He won’t be playing against D1 athletes or future pros in China. He will most likely put up plenty of shots and get fairly good numbers during his one season in China. He will have a extremely steep learning curve once he gets into the league in 2015. The guy is super talented and will eventually be a good player in the NBA I think, but his first couple years in the league could be a big struggle.

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  • #951994
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    In my opinion, Mudiay will not improve playing in China. He made a great financial decision because he will be getting paid, but a poor basketball development decision. Whoever his coach in in China I’m almost positive is nowhere close to Larry Brown in his knowledge of the game. He won’t be playing against D1 athletes or future pros in China. He will most likely put up plenty of shots and get fairly good numbers during his one season in China. He will have a extremely steep learning curve once he gets into the league in 2015. The guy is super talented and will eventually be a good player in the NBA I think, but his first couple years in the league could be a big struggle.

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  • #951865
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    Hitster
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     The money to go to China may have been good but I have to agree a year of Larry Brown drilling defence into him would have been more use to him.

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  • #952002
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     The money to go to China may have been good but I have to agree a year of Larry Brown drilling defence into him would have been more use to him.

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  • #951871
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     He did himself a service. Great training and he can focus on basketball. Not like they have to go to school the 1 and dones. Thats just fattening the alumni pockets. Take the 1.5 million and get millions in the L regardless. Smart decision. In China he can jack wich wont hurt his stats. Good for him. 

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  • #952008
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     He did himself a service. Great training and he can focus on basketball. Not like they have to go to school the 1 and dones. Thats just fattening the alumni pockets. Take the 1.5 million and get millions in the L regardless. Smart decision. In China he can jack wich wont hurt his stats. Good for him. 

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  • #951885
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    To say he wont improve is ridiculous. By that do you mean he wont be working on his game, his body, watching film, doing reps, or competing? Ideally I believe Larry Brown and SMU would have been great for Mudiay but I wont say he wont improve and has ruined his career. 

    Like "meditated states" says, the whole belief that All American prospects absolutely must go to the NCAA is an indoctrinated belief that the NCAA profits off of well. I wish more obvious one and done players decided to go overseas instead of risking thier careers for free. It wouldnt be the greatest for me because I wouldnt be able to watch them on TV or in March Madness but it makes much more sense for the players.

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  • #952022
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    To say he wont improve is ridiculous. By that do you mean he wont be working on his game, his body, watching film, doing reps, or competing? Ideally I believe Larry Brown and SMU would have been great for Mudiay but I wont say he wont improve and has ruined his career. 

    Like "meditated states" says, the whole belief that All American prospects absolutely must go to the NCAA is an indoctrinated belief that the NCAA profits off of well. I wish more obvious one and done players decided to go overseas instead of risking thier careers for free. It wouldnt be the greatest for me because I wouldnt be able to watch them on TV or in March Madness but it makes much more sense for the players.

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  • #951887
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     Besides Mudiay defenitely isnt in China alone. He has money. He can hire his own personal staff on salary to go with him and help him develop. Probally brought some friends and family along too.

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  • #952023
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     Besides Mudiay defenitely isnt in China alone. He has money. He can hire his own personal staff on salary to go with him and help him develop. Probally brought some friends and family along too.

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  • #952111
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    to see him in a Bucks uni next year.  That may need to happen to keep that team in the Brew City.

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  • #951975
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    to see him in a Bucks uni next year.  That may need to happen to keep that team in the Brew City.

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  • #952176
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    As far as development, he will have a lot of time to work on his game. As much as high profile athletes in the NCAA work on their game, they are still limitied by practice time restrictions and college requirements (class, assemblies, community service, team activities, etc.) Mudiay has none of those restricitions. He can practice as much as he wants and pay whoever is willing to help him. He is a professional basketball player now and will learn something about handling that lifestlye before he hits the NBA. This might backfire, but if he has a good head on his shoulders he will be able to glean a lot from the experience (plus make him some $). 

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  • #952040
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    As far as development, he will have a lot of time to work on his game. As much as high profile athletes in the NCAA work on their game, they are still limitied by practice time restrictions and college requirements (class, assemblies, community service, team activities, etc.) Mudiay has none of those restricitions. He can practice as much as he wants and pay whoever is willing to help him. He is a professional basketball player now and will learn something about handling that lifestlye before he hits the NBA. This might backfire, but if he has a good head on his shoulders he will be able to glean a lot from the experience (plus make him some $). 

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